MACV-SOG POW/MIA RECOVERY w/ JOHN STRYKER MEYER | Tactical Rifleman 

I did a MIA recovery with JPAC back in 2004 in Laos. We did recover a remain of a Macv sog medic and repatriated him back to Hawaii. Can’t remember the name of service member . But that I have to tell u my proudest moment just bringing him back home after all those years.

"My favorite type of Commie, a dead one." Amen to that Mr. Meyer. God Bless to you and all Vietnam Vets!!!

Thank you for those recoveries. My Dad flew in Nam. He made it home, it always bothered him that many of his brothers were still there.

Amazing. My fathers remains were recoved from Laos in 1990. He was a CCN Huey pilot,who flew the RT's & SOG 70/71. I went out there to the area in Laos myself in 2001, and I saw some teams working to find guys. It was a precarious time and everyone I encountered was very suspicious of my prescence.

This is such an incredible topic. I first learned about this at SERE school when a USAF SERE instructor told us about how going to Vietnam and looking for MIA troops is one of their deployments. I’m so glad that you guys are sharing this with the public!

John is a legend, hero of mine as well, what they did in the Secret War was just astronomical, the SOGCast is just phenomenal. Awesome talk brother.

Thank you Karl for having John on to discuss this. It is a crime what our government has done by not doing more to both support and help our service members and their families. Grateful for private organizations who have found ways to navigate or go around the red tape to bring our heroes home and bring peace to their families. Thank you to them and to you!

God Bless You Tilt.Also our MIA.You will never be forgotten.100

Some of the BEST quality on RU-vid!!!! Keep it coming!! It's the best to hear heros from past conflicts share their experience

Thank you for covering this important topic. My grand uncle went MIA on a mission across the fence in '65 and it took almost 35 years to find his remains but he was found, together with 3 ARVN soldiers, and they're buried at Arlington. I salute everyone who served in Vietnam. You deserved a decent welcome home but the war had become too politicized. I'm glad you're finally getting the recognition you well deserved. Welcome home. The POW-MIA issue needs more coverage and governments must work together to bring the heroes home. They made the ultimate sacrifice for their brothers and to defend freedom. Thanks again. Also, happy lunar new year (Tet) from Saigon. 🎋 For any Vietnam vets reading this, you may be pleased to know that Americans are still appreciated here and the locals still call the city Sai Gon. The "other name" is only used in official contexts. Also, House 10 still stands in District 1. If you wish to visit the south, you'll receive a warm welcome. Best wishes, Mikael Törni-Overmark, Saigon

Great stuff! I've read the books of John and other stories in battle. The mysteries and stories surrounding our combat around the world are completely fascinating and I urge everyone to learn more and study these accounts, if not just to remember the fallen and those that sacrificed so much for us. Talk to vets to learn and remember for future generations.

I have no words to express how this video made me feel. Thank you gentlemen and my heart goes out to the families that have no closure to this day about the heroes that made the ultimate sacrifice and never made it back home. God Bless and Thank you!

Do they take volunteers to help? I would like to go, I would like to try and help find Mad Dog Shriver and bring him home, along with all the others, and indigenous troops as well. I feel so small, I wanna help these heroes that history and the Government almost forgot! Thank You MACV SOG!

Welcome home brother and thank you for your service Bring back al the missing MIA's

I can relate,to your ‘heroes’ tribute. Not SF or anything close, just a peace time reservist, but the Viet Nam vets were my mentors in my formative years. Worked a job once when I was younger where I had the privilege of working with a number of retired SF and Special Ops guys, either field grade or senior NCOs. Learned a lot. SOG ops were among the boldest, most courageous in US history. May all who couldn’t come home RIP.

Wish my dad would’ve lived to see the attention now given to MACVSOG. He was in Project Omega 1966-67 which was pulled into SOG then a TDY out of Okinawa then another tour 1969-70. Later served Det-A Berlin 1981-83. But AO caught up with him before the classified status was lifted. Close to 30 years in Army. Started in 187th RCT in the ROK. CIBx2

Excellent conversation Karl! John is a national treasure for many of us! As you probably know, the LRRPs and Rangers from RVN were/are my mentors... Col Downing, Lt Bargewell and SFC Thompson to be specific!

Thank you!

Many live prisoners were left behind. I was an Intelligence Coordinator (97C) in the Delta in 72. We ran agent networks. As late as Christmas 1972 we had reports of American prisoners being moved around in the area. No way 3 months later they were among those prisoners released in Hanoi. When Saigon fell in 75, many Vietnamese soldiers and civilians gave reports of live prisoners being held in the jungle camps. They were ignored by our Government and suppressed. One of the politicians who helped suppress this information was John McCain.

I am not military. Wanted to thank both of you for your service. Tactical Tuesdays entertaining and educational. Have a great weekend

Thanks John and Karl

There are many of us that do remember and were very much alive and pissed.... thank you Carl and John ya'll stay safe frosty and free

What a fantastic program. It is great to know that the recovery of our heroes is still being undertook. Tilt is a great guest on TR and a great American hero. Thanks TR .RLTW

Another great video as always

The Carter administration gave the Chinese advanced artillery locating radar during the Chinese Vietnam war. That's one reason why the Vietnamese hated Carter.

I was 4 years old when desert storm happened, and was in middle school when the towers fell. Didn't go SF but joined after I graduated in 06 and did 2 tours OEF and am proud to have just served and more proud to have served with the heroes who didn't make it home from our battalion 1/508 PIR.

Love these dudes and these stories.

Thanks...🇺🇸🇺🇸

Incredible! Thanks for everything!

I commanded a search team for JCRC and made the first recovery of MIA remains. Had a great team, but politics played to big of a role for JCRC to be successful.

Incredible interview!! Fascinating information!! I could listen to JSM all day long!! Thank You John and Thank You Karl!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Great video thank you for all you do.

Tilt is one of my heroes. Thank you both for letting us listen in on your conversations

John, Karl, outstanding. Thank you for sharing all of this information.

I'm really glad that you and others are talking about pow/Mia those missing and captured are Patriots wether they are American ,Vietnamese,Australian, those pow/Mia need to be remembered and better yet brought home every time I meet a vet I always say welcome home !! I had a substitute teacher in grade 7 he was a vietnam vet callsign "rocketman" he was awesome

Karl & Tilt, once again great video!

Awesome work, great video keep up the good work and thank you!

Commercial looked fantastic. 👍

This is a subject that greatly interested me. Karl could you please thank john and ask him his personal opinion of the late senator john mc cain .thanks great vid.

Oh shit, let's wake and watch this!

Do we know how many are missing from our last 2 wars? Thank you both for your service you are true hero's and are appreciated.

I like making velvetta shells and cheese like normal then add a can of cream of mushroom and a can of tuna, splash of milk then stir and heat back up

Great video, Blessings to you all and your families my Brothers and Sisters in Arms 4 Life.

Sgt James Harwood 5th SFG MIA 15 Jan 71. Good friend great medic, we got to know each other while in 6th Grp before he visited Ms A to get orders for VN. Sure wish they could find him.

I thank God that Karl made it out alive and well through all his missions and life-threatening experience's. God bless the guys and girls and their families that have sacrificed so much for our country the USA.

My cousin was. Mia/Pow from Korean War took us 49 to get him home but my Aunt was dead but her baby laying beside her. Ps. He was my Daddy’s favorite cousin

Everybody deserve to come "Home"🙏

happy Friday

A gentleman I was honored to know was I believe the 5th longest serving POW in Vietnam until the last official exchange, I believe a few members of the local VVA put together a small book about his story. Sadly he passed away a few years ago, but now has a local bridge named is his honor... He experienced some truly horrific things, but his wife fought like hell for him and many other Vietnam vets for benefits and VA treatment... She always called herself the nicest meanest 70lb bitch you've ever met 😄 Wonderful woman (she had a pretty serious chronic thyroid issue but that didn't stop her tenacity for fighting on behalf of Vietnam vets)

How would one get involved with the recovery effort?

awesome, well done guys

This is a great interview! John is always a wealth of knowledge and insight into SOG. My only recommendation - and it may just be my headset - is to get the audio lined out in future videos.

Great interview. Tilt said 26 SOG cast are done. Why are only 17 posted. WHEN are they going to be released? Please release the rest Tilt. BREAK CONTACT, CONTINUE MISSION. Chompin at the bit for more sog cast my friend.

January 22 1988, Sam Neua Province Laos, US satellite reconnaissance photography films in a dry rice paddy outside a detention facility with reports of American POW's being held long after the war "USA K." "USA" was dug into the ground, the "K" which is a pilot distress symbol was constructed from burned rice stalk. You can find this image online, the "declassified" image that is. What you will not find is the image with a four-digit pilot authenticator number, and a last name also dug into the earth close to this symbol. In 1992, I believe it was a retired USAF Colonel Burrows that was a specialist in aerial imagery stated there was a four-digit authenticator number, which matched the name of a US serviceman MIA from the Vietnam War, and his last name was also stamped below his authenticator. "1104 WRYE" was filmed next to the "USA K" imagery. "1104" was the personal authenticator of Blair C Wrye, MIA. This wasn't the first time "1104" had been filmed. In 1992, during the Senate Select Committee Hearings on POW/MIA affairs, the "USA K" satellite imagery was reviewed, the "1104 WRYE" imagery was never reviewed because the Vietnamese handed over remains for Blair C Wrye the year previous. I've heard it was a single tooth that closed his case. Maybe look up the case of Daniel Borah sometime. Yes, Vietnamese soil is highly acidic. So why did our recovery teams find incomplete remains burred inside a well preserved flight suit and a survival vest? You could have placed that flight suit on ebay, when in reality all that should have been left of it was it's zippers. Also, Ann Mills Griffiths is a controversial person among the MIA family community. She is no doubt, a great person in contributing to the remains recovery process. She has done great work bringing closure to many MIA families by helping our government find, identify, and properly bury our nation's servicemen. That being said, she is also the reason many MIA family members splintered off from the League of Families, and started their own group. She dismisses the idea that American servicemen were held Prisoner of War after the war. In my honest assessment, she had her brother's remains returned, legitimately he was KIA, and is now financially well off because of government pay-offs, and is now in tow with the US government position that no US servicemen were held POW after our withdraw from SE Asia, and a mouthpiece for their agenda. I mean no disrespect to John Meyer, or the creator of this channel. Thank you both for your service.

I don't know if anyone pointed it out here, the first picture is RT-Sidewinder, in 1971 or 1972. Not Idaho.

Very informative video!

'And then Glen Lane set one other thing straight "you've got to realise, things have changed" Lane explained. He was now going by a new name: Gary Brubaker. But his friends could call him "Doc" since he was a qualified medic. Quoted from page 276 The men we left behind Henry Kissinger, the politics of deceit and the tragic fate of POWs after the Vietnam war. By Mark Sauter and Jim Sanders.

Get Lynne Black on please!

The SOG missions were the craziest of Vietnam....

Brother were not all young disrespectful punks lol... ya'll thank you and stay safe frosty and free

The American people were never meant to know that we were in Cambodia and Laos. The heroes that were sent in were ghosts in the eyes of the Government and the military. They knew there would be no rescue missions and they knew that many of them would never come home.

I'm curious whether the Vietnamese view of death/afterlife is why they are cooperative. I'm also interested if recovery units are finding Montagnard and Vietnamese remains.

JSM seems a very approachable person and what he went through is an amazing story. The way the Vietnam war was conducted was down to idiots in charge. It’s not well known but prior to the return of the French the British Army were in Vietnam and they used Japanese soldiers to fight the then Viet Minh. They were winning the battle through discipline and approach. That all went tits up when control went back to the French. Their battle flag of a white cross on a white background proved a point. They lost at Dien Ben Phu. I feel so angry at the way the US treated their own soldiers before, during and after the war. May all lost souls be found.

WOW, all the after action reports destroyed! That’s one of the things I’m after! Im can’t find any info for one of my dad’s BSM’s. I have the others and SSM & air medals, etc JSM, you Rock!

Take it with a grain of salt, back then around 1986 we were in Vietnam in the Củ Chi tunnels. We asked the officer what happened to the US SF guys. He said we killed them all and said we knew every camp they had ever been in, sometimes with the names of the officers. The funny part is I was tactical questioning the same officer after 1989 for smuggling people into Europe

Awesome stuff

Dave’s jones locker

Tilt!

What good timing. The silence of the Nam POW/MIA's crossed my mind recently with frustration sensing the let it fade political BS. (JF)

Dude get the man's name right. It's John Stryker Meyer not Meyer(s). I like the channel nonetheless I just took issue with that small detail. Tilt is a legend.

I am. Ex. SF. And my spine is shot from a Dirtybomb it’s very painful

"Memento legatum" remember the legacy was the SOG motto at the time or later adopted?

Rip spider parks. He was doing the same work in he die in laos

Page 277: 'No of course he didnt come out in 73 he said he had been left behind' the major explained. 'He had been switched back and forth [from Laos to Vietnam] several times. All of a sudden in [1977] they [his Vietnamese guards] had given him a new set of clothes, cleaned him up, given him a shave, and they were out of there'. Lane went from a Vietnamese prison to Hanoi, then on to Bangkok, where he was met by U.S officials. "He indicated that he wasnt the only one. A couple of others came out when he came out' the major says. When pressed for more details , Lane said 'I cant tell you its all classified' Besides Lane said 'Im still working for the government'. According to the major: 'He admitted he had been "down south" where he was wounded in the leg. To the special operations community, that meant central America, perhaps Nicaragua, or 'over the fence' as special force soldiers used to call covert missions in support of the contras. But there was one more question the major had to ask. "I knew that he had people, and I asked 'what about your family?' And he said he had never told them'. Quoted from the book The men we left behind; Henry Kissinger the politics of deciet and the tragic fate of POWs after the Vietnam war.

Man, $60 for a #10 can of Mac and Cheese? 10 servings at $6/serving? If companies like this actually wanted people to be prepared they wouldn’t be charging an arm and a leg for pasta.. One of the cheapest preps you can get next to rice. Screw companies like that.

Audio is all on the left side

Hey, invite me onto your show. Jimi Shorten-Jones, "The Wild Carrot"

My dad one of the MacV soldier that is still not recovered from Laos Vietnam....

How can I volunteer to help?

Could be US POW in Russia or Cuba jails? Could be!

I was there in 1972, Dont try and tell me we pulled out . Rockets and morders were still killing Us ! It was Far from OVER !

I respect people that do what I don’t have the balls to do, like my father, (Green Beret) bull riders.. etc. it’s not my personality. I don’t think I’m chicken shit, because I’ve survived 3 tours in the penitentiary…I’m just not a chance taker.

head Cdr Frank Lauria (sic) USN SEAL Ret is doing some work on this.

Sad this is even a thing. Bring them home, government had no problem sending them, should be no problem getting them home.

I remember 9/11 I remember watching that guy throw himself out of the building on TV.

Seems like a private contractor would be the best route to go around all the political BS... this conversation reminds me of the Dark Docs video of possible POWs that were left behind... go look into Operation Pocket Change?

Where’s the UN on this issue, there’s plenty of conflicts and people from all sides still unaccounted for.

Do any of you mac guys remember Jim UTZ??? FINISHED AS A BIRD.

Trying to recover now but i got boots in the ground getting these triggered people out

FYI. Your audio feeds are reversed on this one and very distracting... JSM hitting right speaker/earbuds and you left speaker/earbuds.

I always wonder now about all the families in Russia and Ukraine who will never know what happened to their loved ones. What a waste!

Women 's food . Real men eat meat .

To every name mentioned & those still missing & their families... ''There are men too superior to be seen except by the few, as there are notes too high in scale for most ears.'' ~Ralph Waldo Emerson ''For every ten people you find clipping at the leaves of evil, you're lucky to find one who's hacking at the roots. ~Henry David Thoreau ''There are none closer to the author of pain & sacrifice Himself. Than those who choose to perform it for the sake & safety of others. For These In Their Day Were They.'' -11b4p 1/504 '71---'74

Davey Jones.