Mad Dog doesn't think Jimmy Butler is a superstar: 'He's not Jokic! He's not LeBron!' 👀 | First Take 

Jimmy has been to 2 finals,4-5 conference finals in last 5 years, that's more than harden,embiid and a lot of guys,he is a superstar

Butler is a superstar clear cut. He''s a leader, a big dog, a all around player on both sides of the ball. He gets to the finals with a bunch of role players. Give that man his props. He just ran up against the best team in the NBA that's all.

Jimmy isn't as talented as a lot of the superstars but got that dog in him and is a leader that most of those superstars don't got either. he's his own person

They do realize that Butler wasn't the same ever since the ankle injury against the Knicks right? But before then he was the best player in this playoffs

The disrespect for Denver started already. Not even 24 hours after winning the chip. All year they were talking about "what if the others" then they were all shook when they ran thru the play-offs.

To be a superstar, you have to be elite and consistent offensively. Obviously defense matters and while Jimmy is an elite defender, he's an inconsistent offensive player. Putting up crazy offensive numbers puts you into the superstar category. I would consider him a star, above an all-star but not quite a superstar. Guys like Jaylen Brown, Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, Chris Paul, etc. for example would be in the same category because they don't put up numbers but can have a huge impact on the game. However, offense is more valuable than defense in today's game.

Jimmy single handedly took an 8 seed to the finals. Bam played fine, a couple other guys had some games where they played out of their minds here and there, but he was the backbone. He had a rough finals, but they were in Game 5 at the end because of him.

Half the guys he mentioned wouldn’t make it out of the first round with the surrounding roster Jimmy has

Question: Stephen A do you think Nuggets will win multiple championships SAS: No, I don't think so because they haven't won multiple championships 😭😭😭

He’s not a superstar it just shows how great an organization is from the brain on down. They operate in greatness.

He’s not a superstar. He’s a star though.

A star with superstar moments .... definitely not a superstar

In my opinion I think Jimmy Butler is more like a Scottie Pippen than a Michael Jordan

I think that butler is getting all the credit from the coaching staff. His teamates that stepped up and bam played great.

Jimmy is good but he got shutdown in the finals by everyone that guarded him. They all figured out that he was always going to turn over his left shoulder on post ups.

I’ve been saying he isn’t a superstar, he’s a on and off star.

Jimmy Butler is a lower bound player whereas Tatum and Booker are upper bound players. Sports analysis always lean towards upper bound players because they sell dreams, but they always forget that dreams are unstable. What Lebron, Jokic and Steph have in common is they cover both ends of the boundary. If we really think about it, Jimmy Butler is definitely equal to Tatum and Booker. He can still score 50+ if the game requires him to do it, but he is not going to do it game after game. He can guarantee you a 20+ with a decent chemistry and a solid defense. Tatum and Booker have crazy scores much more regularly, but they can be completely invisible at times. It's as if they sabotaged the team with their nonexistent plays.

The disrespect to Denver and Butler alone is shameful. Smh.

What do I think? I believe before Denver even begins to think about becoming a dynasty the improvement of MPJ must become a real priority.(dude is 24). That said...If he works hard, stays healthy, continues to improve defensively and continues to work on his passing, "moving without the ball" and "in between game"....Denver will be tough once again. Real talk...the rookie took some of his minutes. Hopefully that will provide enough motivation for him to continue to grow. Wishing him the best.

Some of these guys there talking about haven’t smelled a finals. They also had better players with them. Jimmy has been there twice with less players.

I’m not taking booker over butler in a series to win. Butler hands down.

Jordan: My son cannot be this unclutch.

He's not held accountable for not performing well like other Superstars do. He's an Allstar that can play like a Superstar in playoff series or 2

Why is it that everyone else gets the “he doesn’t have another superstar” excuse but Jimmy doesn’t? After game 2 of the ecf the game plan was to shut down jimmy which allowed his guys to be wide open and have a historic shooting performance. Jimmy is the best two way player in basketball right now. Give him dame this summer with Bam and see what happens.

For me a superstar is a person you're willing to pay a super max as a realistically competing team, and if I ran an actively and realistically competing NBA organization I wouldn't be willing to pay Jimmy the supermax, I'd pay him, but just not the supermax.

If ur scoring game requires you to make a ton of free throws to get to 30 points you are not a superstar. Idc how good you are on defense, there’s a reason Jaren Jackson Jr is not a superstar and Luka Doncic is. Jimmy butler when he doesn’t get bailed out by the refs can barely average 20 ppg. And not one single time since the bucks series did he put this team on his back and take them to the finish line. These are the superstars in my mind. Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antentokounpo, Jayson Tatum, Steph Curry, Luka Doncic, Damian Lillard, Joel Embiid, and imo Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Those are the NBA’s superstars. Jimmy Butler is a star and a great player, but he was not good this postseason since the bucks series. He wasn’t the best player in the Knicks series (Jalen Brunson), the Celtics series (Jayson Tatum), or in the Nuggets series (Nikola Jokic). I’m gonna ask y’all a question, and if you decide to respond to this comment I ask you to rly ask yourself. What has Jimmy Butler accomplished without Erik Spolestra? He had many talented teams in Chicago, didn’t do anything. He had a very talented team in Minnesota, but there he couldn’t be a leader and teach KAT and Wiggins how to be professionals. In Philly, he had his most talented team, couldn’t get out of the 2nd round. And now in Miami you expect me to believe that Jimmy butler is carrying these lesser talented teams?! No he wasn’t, Eric Spolestra was winning 40+ games with Goran Dragic as the best player. Jimmy butler is not the reason the heat are good, Eric Spolestra is!

Love the respect Stephen A showing Tatum and the Celtics lately. Especially we been getting torn to pieces lately the past 2-3 weeks😂

He’s a tier below the superstars. Which is really just JOKIC, Curry, Giannis and Luka.

Booker over Jimmy is hilarious

Not a superstar... just a really good player

How fast they turn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

He’s in that grey area between all star and superstar. Top 5 two way player but as a heat fan I can say he’s wayyyyy too inconsistent offensively for him to be a superstar

The jimmy butler disrespect is crazy he’s been to the finals 2 times . There’s literally players in the NBA they call superstars that have never been to the finals smh . Look at Miami roster they should’ve have got that far before the ankle injury butler was balling . They need to give brah his props and stop hating

Career wise he ain’t a superstar but just for these playoffs he’s had super star moments

If the Heat played a different team and won no one would say this about Jimmy 💯💯

Thought that was skip in the thumbnail for a sec lol

When Butler saw Jovic in the lane, he folded point blank. He folded in some instances. Play to stay alive and he didn't.

Jimmy is NOT him. He’s a great sidekick but not the number one option. He should’ve never left Embiid smh

He's productive and i'll take him any day on my team......... "Star" not a super star........I watched Jimmy grow up me and his sister dated for years.....I would have never thought he would make it to the league.......He was a cool tall country kid growing up lol I applaud him ✊🏿💯❤️ my little brother ✊🏿

Hes taken his team futher than Chris paul, Carmelo Anthony, and Dame Dollar EVER has

where it gets tricky is the lack of competition in terms of big men like shot blockers n big presences Jokic has had to face but that’s just the modern nba so can’t really hold it against him

Hold up. You said a series you need to win, you should take Butler over Booker.

Steven A eyes so low he is definitely enjoying his time in Denver if you know what I mean ⛽️

Its crazy that all the finals news is under 15k views.

Jimmy 0-2 in finals ouch 😂😂😭

He’s not a superstar but he regularly beats superstars with better teams? Make it make sense

The minute someone contradicts her she takes out that hood vibe 😂

Jimmy Butler is a regular season star and a postseason superstar

Jimmy is the definition of a TRUE Number 2 Guy. Nothing wrong with that. He is a Star but the term "Superstar" is used to loosely now a days. There a reason why Jimmy is never mentioned alongside Upper Tier Stars in the League. Superstars are also players that are marketable, endorsed, & carries a brand. Jimmy doesn't have any of that.

But he just beat Giannis and Tatum with a worse supporting cast.

Yes

Stop throwing dirt on Kawhi's championship

Half of the people he mentioned will never make it out of the first round

Jimmy butler killed Tatum this year. Maybe not on numbers but jimmy is better defensively.

Mcnut, truly is a nut for that take Mad dog right as usual

Jimmy Butler knows he needs his team to be included into the success

Butler is not booker? Yes, he is better

Butler is a Superstar hands down! He and his team has beaten the best teams and best players in the playoffs. Two Finals in Four years that’s incredible! All NBA performer as well. He does whatever it takes to help a team win. He was worn down in the Finals. Didn’t play great in the Finals, wouldn’t have been there without him.

I miss Michael Irvin, he was amazing on tv

If Jimmy is a superstar then half the league is superstars, I mean you got people that believe Draymond Green is a superstar 🤷🏾‍♂️

These guys are causals all they care about is scoring! Butler>Booker all day everyday!!!

Mad dog finally got a decent take for once.

I like how the narrative is like ‘Jimmy was able to take these teams to two finals’ yet we were talking about the heat team during these playoffs as being great. You can be a great team with no superstars and get to the finals, and win. Detroit

He's a superstar. That team had no business making it that far. But there's levels to this...

All I remember is 2019 free agency sign and trade everyone laughed and said he’s going there for a vacation. 2 finals in 4 years. And we’re questioning if he’s a superstar

getting another mvp caliber superstar to add on to the one they have already like the warriors did could assist Denver in making their dynasty

The line where the first all star meets that last superstar, that is where Jimmy Butler can be found.

I listed it out. #14 in NBA imo. Jokic, Giannis, Luka, LBJ, KD, Steph, Tatum, Lillard, Booker, Embiid, Ja (if available) and a healthy AD and Kawhi are ahead of him. I would take him barely over Kyrie, SGA, Mitchell, and others. Great player, future HOFer..but not a top 5 superstar either.

2 Finals appearances...COOL, are we hanging banners for that now???

Where's the mad dog?

Sick advocat 48

You can’t lead a team to the finals twice without being a superstar

Jimmy better than Tatum too

In a short series win for my life I’m taking Jimmy SIMPLE 2:20

stephen said 'It's not about how many championships you get, but how many finals you can win'

Dame has disappeared in EVERY playoff series ever after Round 1 -- the farthest he ever made it, CJ carried Portland that series JImmy = 2 Finals in 4 years = IM TAKING JIMMY ON MY TEAM OVER DAME

Miami went to finals twice recently because of coaching, not Butler.

Isnt this the same show that JUST had a topic " Is Jimmy harder to guard than KD & LeBron?" ? I even took a screen shot of it to keep track of the blasphemy

Mad Dog is right. Yes it is murky BUT you need consistent source of offense. Superstars are source of consistent offense. Yes they play some bad games but they're numbers is still significant compared to an average nba player.

So she thinks that Jimmy is on the level of Jokic? Get her off the show

This whole league is about deferrence now. Give up a good shot for a great shot. Jimmy Butler beat Jayson Tatum up this year. Thats a bad comparison.

Paul Pierce won finals MVP putting up the same numbers and FG% as Butler did in this finals series and I will say this Butler didnt play well this final series but in the playoffs he had multiple 40 point games even a 50 point game and in the NBA finals 2020 he won two of the games are we for real here this is insane..

Top 15 players in the league is where butler ranks 1. Jokic 2. Giannis 3. Curry 4. Lebron 5. Durant 6. Luka 7. Kawhi 8. Embiid 9. Tatum 10. Lillard 11. Ja 12. Butler 13. Booker 14. Davis 15. Zion (when healthy)

Lol after lebron and kd it gets murky. Neither are top 5 atm

Star-caliber 💯

As at last season jokic wasn't jimmy buckets according to the media

Jimmy is a superstar, idk what else does he need to prove?...he gets results everywhere he goes

He's like Ron Artest in Houston. He's a star by default on his team but nothing compared to actual superstars.

I agree that this isn't the start of a dynasty. I feel like a few teams in the west need a few tweaks and they'd be better than the Nuggets. I think the Lakers with shooters on the roster is better than the Nuggets. The Suns with actual depth would be better than the Nuggets. In the east, I still think the Celtics as is are better than the Nuggets, and I think the Sixers as is even with Harden are better if not just as good as the Nuggets, even the Bucks with some tweaks and a fully recovered Middleton are better if not just as good as the Nuggets. But they will continue to be contenders.

Not a superstar…. Start giving Jimmy Butler the same slander Tatum got last year. Y’all seriously need to hop off Jimmy. Sure he had a great first round. But nah he’s not a superstar. A really good player though.

Winning will always validate a man’s greatness. Sadly a lot of great players are often diminished because they haven’t won a ring. Jimmy might be a player who will suffer from this. Is Jimmy an all star ? Yes is he better than the aforementioned I would take Jimmy over dame and Tatum. Both player btw are more talented,but there are clear intangibles. Winning intangibles. He won’t overwhelm you with his talent but his tenacity. Hard to really value guys like that. It’s the same thing with draymond.Draymond probably wouldn’t be good outside of golden state but you see his value and he doesn’t score much. Defends at high level. Jimmy is a great player. He’s the definition of the under dog.

Mad Dog is being silly to say he'd take Booker over Butler is a series for his life. Booker is 0-3 in elimination games in his career shooting a combined 15-49 in those games. Intangibles aren't everything but they do count. Monica is right, Butler might not be on the same level as the absolute very best players, but you can't definitely say that guys like Booker or Lillard are better than him when he has done more with the same or less

This is why certain ppl don't need to talk about Basketball. Also why don't the women of ESPN talk about the WNBA?

A superstar would takeover scoring, when the Teams its struggle, Butler isnt that guy.

Jimmy took a team of undrafted players to the finals. Didn't need to team up with superstars to do that! And the guy beat the players espn brainwashed us into believing they are great!+

People really disrespect PG13. PG13 >>> Booker, Jimmy, Taytum, Lillard but that’s me. I’ll stand on it.

Monica is dripping with talent. Such a solid panel right here

The term is thrown around too loosely that's why people think we got 15-20 superstars in the league

Booker has now 2 years in a row when he was -30 to the halftime in the decisive home games. How can anyone pick him ahead of Butler for the GAME?!

You forgot about Sacramento