Stephen A. & JJ Redick GET HEATED over Mad Dog's Jaylen Brown max contract talk 👀 | First Take 

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Same hahaha

I would love that

hilarious

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The Warriors of Truth

He's not wrong

@@Asherrager god forbid they hold players accountable. I get not shaming them like their career is over after the eries ends but jj likes to sugarcoat just to stay in everyone’s good graces

😂😂😂😂 so much facts. Dude talking like Erik Spoelstra not coaching a NBA team in the finals right now

@@kant5696 I’ve noticed the same. It’s ok to honestly assessing a player. Don’t get why it’s treated like a crime by some pundits.

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Same exact genuine reaction lol

He should have said derozan

Not hard... he's maybe in the outside top 30

It's 32 teams... so, he's pretty good 😂

Na the point is MD said hes not Top 20 and SAS said name 20, and he was about to do it immediately but they stopped him at first. The first line of a paragraph isn’t always the main idea guys.

@@c.h.5510 good just not great

Mazzula ruined the Celtics team had no urgency in game 7 .

Not at all. Skip vs Stephen A is the peak of ESPN First Take.

⁠@@CulEdz right lol Molly tries too hard “you work on the little list” um what 😅

Facts, I love me some good old First Take screaming 🤣🤣

Mad dog sucks zero ball knowledge

Absolute clowns. All the screaming is super unnecessary. Sound like a bunch of loud mouth idiots. Is this really what sports shows are trending towards? Who wants to listen to these blowhards yell at each other for 10 minutes

New York at his finest😂

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Lowkey, Kris Middleton would be an amazing fit in place of Brown.

Exactly. JJ gives great analysis most of the time, but him refusing to hold individual players accountable does annoy me.

a bad super max doesn't break a team. All supermax players are worth their money. Some are worth more than they money, but can't get it(top 10/15). It is bad 20/30million contracts that will break franchices under new CBA and will see less of those

​@@TheChessRunner they do break franchise That's why at the end of those super maxes they trade the players like Westbrook and John Wall

@@user-cu7kb8gi2e an injured player and player that was traded to literally the worst fit of a team. Comparison makes no sense

And Stephen A said the same thing about Jalen isn't a no. 1 so he doesn't deserve the max and they should trade Brown for Lillard..

SMH all y’all stupid

Not an argument against a sign-and-trade.

Trade Brown for defensive guys or something like that. Boston needs some dogs that can run all day. Like Butler

Y’all know nothing about basketball 😂

i thought mad dog looked the dumbest until SaS said brown is better than butler hahahahaha

Jimmy is not top twenty. He just played a series where he disappeared for three games. That’s almost HALF the games. That’s not a good player. He is inconsistent like 95 percent of the players in this era. He has ZERO go to moves. The most overrated dude in the last decade…easily. The NBA is desperate for new stars because Bron is leaving and there will be no more after he and Curry. No one is carrying the league after them. These dudes are just not charismatic, nor do they have the CONSISTENT skill and star power.

Molly never gets listened to, she just there to look pretty, and she does that very well.

@@marcelmarshall4240Word. Giannis was supposed to be him. Giannis in a weird limbo right now in my opinion. Then Ja Morant shot himself in the foot and Zion is not built no type of way. This French guy is the next big thing apparently idk. Everyone is boring and not a star.

@@marcelmarshall4240 By that logic Brown isn't top 50 because he disappears in 3/4 of Boston games in the playoffs

He missed fox and bruson 😂

​@@Hennyguerreroby the time you list fox and Brunson, you'd have a legit argument about who's better out of those 3

@@jorge0123mj I’d personally rather have both those guys over brown but thats me

BI is not better

@@ChillestSkeleton and i wouldn't argue with you on that. But you can make a compelling argument for listing any of those guys 1, 2, 3

I can't understand this woman she keeps interrupting

@@bastianogero9609 she’s gorgeous but Jesus she’s annoying

yeah that was really entertaining.

Mazzula ruined the Celtics team had no urgency in game 7

nothing on first take is a must watch

​@@jaysonsmith7264 Nothing is a must watch

Not when Molly is on.

long term maybe though... Butler turned 34 - Browns ten year younger

@Anton Quirgst yea, but I'm pretty sure they meant in the moment. Otherwise, LeBron, KD, and Steph wouldn't be on that list

@@vante474 totally agree- but going for that max is a 5 year investment youd rather put on brown than lets say a Harden or at this stage Lebron

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It’s an age thing and brown has potential to keep gettin better and better. Last year I had brown and Tatum neck and neck. Brown either regressed this year or Tatum got better.

They need a PG for YEARS

Agree , and neither can handle the ball, maybe they need to get rid of smart for a true point guard

You just said EVERYTHING I’ve been saying for the last few years. It’s ISO ISO ISO. That’s it!

totally the opposite of last year, they were trash shooting the 3 but they were able to jus score in the paint the whole game

​@DuckDaPhillyFan it wasnt with Ime. He had them tops in the league in assists from Jan 1, 2022 to his exit.

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Facts! He ain't 1 bit wrong.

His list is invalid i heard at least 3 players who can’t see Brown yall Trollin 😂

@@potheadbailey9952 who?

@@potheadbailey9952 what 3 players precisely?

Exactly baseball doesn't have a salary cap

His point is that the guy didn’t say “but they didn’t win anything” when they got paid

Exactly comparing dollar figures when the argument is MAX contracts. Doesn’t matter if it’s 300 today & 400 in a couple years it’s still given the term max contracts so they’re argument is stupid imo

I agreed with Mad Dod. There are 30 teams In the NBA…… with 1-3 good top players on a team. Where is Brown rank? Not top 20-25 more like 30-35. I disagree with Steve A saying Brown is rank higher than Jimmy Buckets.

@@matzleeach he’s top 25 for sure

But he's right, paying him max (& supermax) will destroy the team's ability to sign anyone once Tatum & he get 60% of the team's payroll.

Mad dog is the most well researched and multi sport versed critic on ESPN. Can he troll? Yes. And backs it up with stats to form his opinions. Unless you like JJ who is sensitive and cares about basketball players’ feelings.

He wasn't even trolling though lol

Facts

She’s still annoying because she tries to play debater.

Ehhh I disagree. There were plenty of times in this video where she went beyond moderating and tried to enter the debate, and the whole last quarter of the video I couldn’t hear anyone speak without her voice on top of everyone

That was a lie

molly focus on getting better (being silent more often) instead of hyping yourself in the comment sections

Cs giving him a chance but he cant make it because of his injury.

Yes he was doing good until the injury

bingo

They aren't and never have played point guard. Which team did you watch this year because with that comment it clearly wasn't the Boston Celtics.

The problem is they young n have room to grow n Marcus smart is our pg vet n dpoy

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That's because people tend to think sports started from 2000.

Lmao❤

@@MB-gd6beno because we aren’t 75 years old

Right 😅

MOLLY WONT STFU!!!! SHE IS NAUSEATING!!!!

"Bob cousy" 😂😂

In 5 years this will be nothing

That's too much

@@kleatise52 we’re talking about right now though

Maybe if he wasnt turnover prone and not a playmaker I'm not paying him 300mil

JJ never talks about bad about any current NBA players because he wants them to come onto his podcast.

Mazzula ruined the Celtics team had no urgency in game 7

Brown takes so many forced contested shots instead of kicking it out

@@Alex-sf9bothat’s the offensive philosophy, the are a heavy iso offense and the head coach needs to change that, help them get easier shots also get a Real PG. But they can’t keep both too much money .. JB will be gone.

Boston Hero ball is the problem

@@jonesgreen9942 thats the thing is theyre not supposed to be and arent until theyre struggling abd then they always regress back into that play style against the coach’s wishes. Its ridiculous and frustrating

agreed, they implemented a hard cap without calling it a hard cap. As it stands, some of the best teams in the NBA would need to be broken up.

Clearly?

Brown was pressure and was trying to do to much

Thats why GS is crumbling

There should be flexibility to reward homegrown talent, at least! 🤦🏾‍♂️

I had go back to hear who he said lol. How they rolled their eyes on klay smh but be loving him when they mention warriors 😂😂😂😂.

@@hollywoodmvp19 lmaooo because Klay ain’t that guy anymore, mad dog knows nothing about basketball

I thought Mad Dog meant Tristan Thompson because there’s no possible way he could have been talking about Klay “3-19” Thompson.

@@ayodeleadeyanju7235 so you would take brown over klay? With knowing what each can do?

@@ayodeleadeyanju7235 you're right BUT Klay almost averaged a career high in points this season and has 4 rings including one last season where he was actually better than Tatum in the finals (Tatum was awful to be fair). Klay also had 300 three pointers this season the most of his career. The Warriors beat the 3 seed Kings with Klay averaging over 20 ppg in that series before being awful vs Lakers. Klay isn't that guy anymore but it's easy to see why a Casual Fan like Mad Dog can look at stats like this and make that mistake. Mad Dog doesn't know the details of basketball but he knows enough to make decent arguments at least something worth a debate. His list of 20 really wasn't that awful. It depends if you value playoff vs regular season performance. Kyrie is flat out better than Jaylen Brown if you are talking specifically playoffs and same thing Kawhi and PG13 if healthy. Brown has never had a playoff run like George did in 2021. I would also have Jalen Brunson, D'Aron Fox, and probably Zion ahead of Brown. The Zion one won't sound fair but Zion absolutely has a higher upside than Brown when healthy.

They didn't fail for the same reason. Jaylen Brown balled out in the finals, it was Tatum who absolutely stunk up the joint. If he had played average, just average Boston wins that title. There are still issues prevalent from last year some of which have gotten worse but they lost their identity this year

@@toughmunths notice the word you use.. IF… guess what it didn’t go that way, they rarely have been able to coexist at a high level in the playoffs because teams are more aggressive defensively. You don’t know for a fact that they win with Tatum playing better, hypotheticals are pointless.

I think it was bad rotation by the coach .... he trusted more Harford then R.william , he trusted more Smart then white or Brogdon.... i think that was a big mistake .. Just bad coaching .

@Elijah Offor They're not pointless. Everything I said has merit but they're not an absolute. I THINK Boston would've won. This is my opinion. And Jason was missing wide open shots all series, it wasn't strictly the defense. What Ifs can be a useful tool don't be so eager to dismiss the idea

the team has already had way too many shakeups, you listed some of them in your comment

Yeah watching everyone roll their eyes and dump on Max because they didn’t respect his opinions was sooo missed.

@@BijinMCMXC max was right more often than Stephen A. But he did have the craziest takes at times

@@michaelgray3 He was not compatible with SAS as a debate partner. It got PAINFUL to watch how much he was disrespected on the show. It got to the point where Molly started following SAS lead and being disrespectful and dismissive of his takes too.

@@BijinMCMXCpersonally I think sas was the problem and still is. There’s a reason FT keep cycling people in/out. I mean JJ is great but sas already clashed heads with him too

@@michaelgray3 I don’t think SAS is not the problem lol but the fact is it’s HIS show and you cannot have someone partnering with him that he doesn’t have good chemistry with. With JJ it’s different because SAS actually respects his analysis. So I don’t see him getting him fired. The problem with Max being on the show was that it was obvious SAS literally didn’t respect the words that came out of his mouth 😂

JJ don't want that problem

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Bro. Lowkey. Butler deserves a super max just off what he did the past 4 years for Miami. Outta appreciation and respect.

Butler is such an interesting situation bc all his work is in the playoffs

How does Doncic deserve a super max?

@@boondockbwoy14 You are smoking crack if you don’t think Luca deserves a super max.

@@boondockbwoy14 I don’t know if that’s a serious question, but his playoff success speaks for itself. Being able to carry a team with no other all-star caliber player to the WCF. He’s proven he is a top-3 player in the league.

Brogdon its not a playmaker, Marcus Smart is more of a playmaker than Brogdon is

They need a PG for real

@@ataydecharlie he was given this role at Indiana and showed his capability. He's more of a playmaker than Smart. What's your reasons for thinking he's not?

HE WASS THEY SHOULDVE LET HIM KEEP GOING CAUSE JJ WAS ABOUT TO BE WRONG😭😭😭

Honestly they need to run these guys back with a new coach. The fact that defense was horrible all year is a reflection on Coach Mazzulla. They need someone who can hold them accountable on defense and keep them disciplined on offense. The over reliance on the 3 ball is a huge Achilles heel for this team. The fact that they were the second best team was only due to the fact that they were the most talented roster this season. If they additionally had the discipline and leadership they need, they would be in the finals right now. How many times did they look like they were playing a rec league game in he playoffs? So many times, they didn't take it seriously. Mazzulla isn't good enough to take them there.

They would’ve won that game with a healthy Tatum. Him going out mean Brown had to carry he’s a net negative with him and bench lineup whenever they they tell him to run the game. He doesn’t have handle, have tunnel vision and doesn’t make plays for others. And when his offense is gone, so is his defense. He benefits from Tatum getting the double and triple and box and 1 and traps defense. Brown gets the one on one and still drive to that paint with 3 guys with no plan. The min I saw Tatum got injured, I knew it was over because defense was gonna keyed on brown and we saw what happened with the turnovers. Brown is overrated and he’s a product of the Celtics system. Put brown on Houston to run that team and he’ll average double digit turnovers.

You aren’t a Celtics fan. Tatum Carrie’s the load when running the offense. You take off a huge load from Jaylen l’s shoulders and all he has to worry about is scoring

@@jwarrior9986 Agreed. Yeah and he changed his tune from game 3 to game 7. Game 3 "It's all on me I didn't have them prepared". Game 7 "We shot 21% from three and didn't defend well but I'm proud of these guys. They're resilient". Huh? Guys a dud. He may know his X's and O's somewhat because apparently he's responsible for giving Udoka some offensive ideas that he used but the guy is not a motivator like Udoka is.

I’m also a Celtic fan and I actually don’t know what would’ve happened if Tatum didn’t get hurt.

It's called being a choker. It's game 7 to reach the Finals, my friend, not a regular season game.

True but he had his moment when they choked against LeBron, they had their "Young and bounce back" already.. Unless he having another one.

@@GameUnkasa choked against Bron? He was in year 2???? The Warriors were a dynasty and still Klay and Curry didn't get going till years 4 and 6 I believe, and were older.

@@JKeemTV I said they, I wasn't putting it on him alone.. And yeah sometimes it happens early (like with Shaq) and sometimes it happens later (like with Bron).

bro said jokic in Dallas 😂

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Wanna know whats funny? Hes gotten better every year & hes only 26 😂

He’s top 25 and I don’t like the Celtics

no way B.I goes above Jalen Brown

I know who had a better season. That was brown

​@@ejthomas8119 could brown have drag a team to the finals? He can't get to the rim 😂 cookies every time ....I like jb tho. But he not doing what jimmy has done lol

​@@ejthomas8119 Jimmy is def better lol

@EJ Thomas I know who choked when his team was depending on him the most….that wasn’t butler 🫢

@@adonissvargas4115 butler 33 on his 4th team i would hope he found a way to get it together lol Brown 6 years younger averaging 26

We need Dame more than brown he can’t play with another superstar

@@MaxjuliannI gotta disagree. We need to get younger to sustain success. & were probably the best at player development. He can learn

@@hurricanes___6982 Not a MIA fan...LAL, but I would rather take Brown too at this point in their careers. Dame has an overall mental edge but Brown also gives a versatility defensively and I think he'll bounce back. He was actually balling last year in the Finals when JT was a no-show. He just had a really bad game 7.

Bucks

He ain’t going to nun of those teams doe

Ingram be hurt way too much lol. Pelicans will never get anywhere with him and zion

So is Paul George

B.i is super nice if boston has Tatum and B.i they go to the finals simple math

Im for sure taking Ingram over Brown If I had to pick a player to join my team.

Jalen brown is not better than Jimmy Butler don’t even know what SAS is talking about

This! My brotha!

I’m confused because Stephen a said said Ingram isn’t better because of hardware and resume but then says kyrie isn’t better when he has a better resume and even had better numbers this season.🤷‍♂️

@@abtocool6350 Yeah, I've been trying to see things from his point of view, but no. I think he said that to shock viewers or as a half hearted attempt to seem more correct than Mad Dog. Ingram not better? I can pass on, but when he said kyrie isn't better...i knew he was just being factitious.

Nah take JJ out. He ruins it.

@@Percy_P you spelled it wrong to genius it’s paid😂😂

Jj lets nba twitter control his thought process he cares wayyy to much what the internet says

⁠​⁠@@martaviouspaul7117 you technically used the wrong “too” buddy

@@martaviouspaul7117 too*

Ofc. He's always looking out for the player to get his money, regardless if he truly deserves it or not.

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Crazy we need jb can’t win a championship w/o jb

I did think that immediately after game 7. But I’m not sure now. Still think you keep Brown and Tatum together. They’ve got too close for you to blow it up. You’ve got to imagine that eventually they’ll win a ring

@@eldio2124 facts they young all greats won they first championship at 27

@@eldio2124 not mad at this take

They will win the championship every year

@@KB-TAYLOR Doncic is in Dallas to stay.