For anyone wondering why it sucked after L died, it’s because the anime rushed the remainder of the manga. For reference, L’s death was about halfway into the manga, meaning Near’s section shoulda been about 25 episodes, not just 12. This rushing resulted in a lot of internal monologue being skipped. It’s why Near seems to be pulling things out from no where.
@@thefinestmeme3317 It’s better, but still flawed. The author was originally planning on ending the story around the same time L dies, but the publishers were too greedy and forced him to continue the story for longer, so naturally the quality is worse since the author wrote it by force.
@@aokiji3347 In the anime when they meet Mello tells Near that shinigami exist and some of the rules in the book are fake. He still wants to catch Kira first but he also wanted to settle some debt with Near.
@@aokiji3347are you serious, you literally can just watch the anime or better yet read the manga because him telling Near all this information is shown. Pay attention to the story
the show has a lot of logical fallacies like that. the first one was L doing it with the video thing. Time zones exist for example, there was no actual evidence that the person killed the fake L. It was leaps in logic that always seemed to be correct.
@@TheKillerman3333what?! It was literally explained wtf 😂. The broadcast only happened in that area, therefore the conclusion was that Kira had to be in that area because that population were the only ones who saw it. Wtf you mean time zones. He literally said that the broadcast will be cast at each area. Zero to do with time zones.
No,actually Melo got that information from the Sidho (shinigami whose notebook Ryuk stole and had given it to Light originally) who told them about these fake rules and Melo passed on the information to Near as a favour for giving him the only photo of his in existence. Watch episode 30 for more details
@@subbaiahkasi6310Because the shinigami lying means that it's the Shinigami that is on Kira's side. And Shinigami would be with Kira. Also the Shinigami probably wouldn't lie if it was to a random person without the guy who added the rule present.
They realized that no matter what they tried, they could never write a successor who was equal to L. Nobody else could ever be L. There is only one L and there will never be another.
Tbh it feels like when L died that was season 1 and it was really interesting to watch and when near enters it feels like season 2, it looks like they forced the writer to extend the story. For me death note ended when L died, they nerfed Light so much in the second part
To be fair, most of Light's advantages were either pulled out of nowhere or happened due to sheer luck. L could counter some of that which made the series interesting to watch, but two worse versions of him who also clash with eachother stood no chance against lucky AND smart Kira, which would make the show excruciatingly painful to watch, so they basically HAD to nerf him
Uh because L had to figure out who Light was first. While Near started that Light was Kira and for him to finish what L couldn't and that is to find evidence to Link Light to Kira.
@seby4231 By who? Kira has the notebook AND a higher authority than both Near and Mello combined. If they really wanted to get their hands on that notebook, it would mean starting a world war because Kira basically has Japan under his leadership and Near had the US and they clearly don’t want that since Kira could just kill any government official in the US leaving them extremely vulnerable to an attack.
@seby4231 it’s fiction, anything is possible, not to mention this is death note… light literally predicted the future damn near flawlessly to beat L you think he can’t start a world war for shits n gigs with the power of the death note?
Light didn't want to hold any government officials under hostage for his own benefit because it's a sign of weakness and defeats the whole point of his goal of becoming God
I really disliked how they just kept forcing the narrative in season 2. Season 1 had logic to it. It might have been a bit wonky, but it was there. Season 2 just did whatever the hell they wanted with zero regard for if it made any sense
A lot of the logic was cut out between the manga and anime adaptations to fit in the episode count. Including the best deduction, when Near zeroes in on Mikamj being part of it. In the manga he doesn’t just have super powers and guesses on the right screen seemingly. He has a whole deductive process to lead to Mikami
It sucks too because when L died, it really felt like Light won and was truly free to be Kira with no opposing force to spot him. But the story forced him to fail anyway.
@@geodude0744lights own ego got very big. he was able to beat L and looked down on near as some cheap imitation. That was part of the whole reason why Light ended up losing
@@saki437 I mean there is the Shinigami king or whatever. Also, it states that a user of the death note can neither go to heaven nor hell, implying that heaven does exist. And if heaven exists then so does god
@@HeavenGottaBelieve Yeah not sure either. I mean, light says in the manga right at the beginning that there is no afterlife and Ryuk agrees, and in the manga when he dies there are a few pages of just black. But in the anime we get to see L at the end and there is also that new shinigami that looks like light. Well, we'll just have to wait for another season of death note.
The fact that light didn’t accept Near’s agreed (when he said “I’m going to write mello’s real name into the natebook, if I die after 13 days that means that I lost) deal proved that he has something to hide and nobody from the Japanese police team had no idea to consider especially since after L said the 13 day rule was fake, he died!
i’ve got a feeling L set light up to be the second L as a sort of backup plan, since L was pretty much certain light was kira and light didn’t know about wammys house. to anyone aware of wammys house and near and the others competing to be L’s successor, surely a second L after his death would be a major hint about something being off, causing suspicion to the second L who doesn’t even know about wammys house
Exactly. L had been known it was Light. He just couldn't find the evidence to tie him with the book. Near started in the premise of light being Kira, and his whole job was not to figure out who Kira was but how to tie Light to the death note. He has to know a lot of what L already did since he knew about the Notebook already.
@@blowc1612 kinda, near only knows about the notebook cause he had one of the officers who was there when higuchi was arrested, and mello knew cause of the spy he had in spk (anime glosses over this for some reason even though it’s very important) what i mean is, near and mello at the time of L’s death are both under the impression they are fighting each other for the title of L’s successor, so for L to die whilst investigating kira and then a new third party unknown person pretending to be the same L they know is dead, would be extremely suspicious considering those two were meant to be the successor. at this time, however, they only know the notebook as “write a name that person dies” they don’t know the rules, so when the director game ends himself it’s suspicious but not confirmed until mello gets his hands on the book, where light is pretty much confirmed kira due to the police info and circumstances around being a second L the anime only shows it for a second but at the start of the second half, you see light deleting L’s memento which had all the investigation info on it, which was probably meant for near and mello to see
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Because they were going after who had powers that was unbelievable so any kind of guess or idea had to be proposed as they were dealing with someone who can kill magically.
I’m not gonna say I disliked Near and Melo. But man I feel like they could have given them a bit more depth or moments together. It took two of L’s old students to finish the puzzle
The second part of Death Note is incredibly better in the manga. In the manga, Near's and Mello's part of the story is almost as long as L's, but in the anime, they rushed it to only 11 episodes, so they rushed Light's decitions, making him seem stupid, they rushed Near and Mello, making their characters lose logic and personality, soecially Near. In the manga he had his own personlaity that made him really different from L, in the anime they just made him unemotionless for no reason.
@@thugvida Yeah, you're welcome! I personally love the intensity and action of Near and Mello's part on the manga. I wish they adapted It correctly in the anime.
@@EXtrmis another 20 years* or around the age of 50, the creator confirmed he'd die at 80 from old age, so that means he'd be 40 had he taken the shinigami eyes
The second part of Death Note is incredibly better in the manga. In the manga, Near's and Mello's part of the story is almost as long as L's, but in the anime, they rushed it to only 11 episodes, so they rushed Light's decitions, making him seem stupid, they rushed Near and Mello, making their characters lose logic and personality, soecially Near. In the manga he had his own personlaity that made him really different from L, in the anime they just made him unemotionless for no reason.
What he didn't lost by accident. There was a lot of factors why Light got caught. Near cornered him. Melon finding out the rule was a lie from another shinigami. Lights ego of beating L and underestimating Near.
Think of it a different way....even if you can calculate and predict as well as a supercomputer there will always be something outside of your calculations that can trip you up.
@@KJShinra Light dug his own grave. All his actions led to him having to involve a stranger in his plan. He chose Mikami himself and even gave him freedoms. He could have actually taken into account that Mikami would act on his own.
@@KJShinra Mikami had very good reason to do what he did. There's also Matsuda's theory at the end of the manga that said Near pressured Mello to kidnap Takada and that he controlled Mikami with the notebook.
I dont remember this scene.. i remember they figured out the rules are fake by another shinigami who originally had the death note light had denied it being true.. did i watch an edited deathnote on netflix?
And how did he conclude that one of them is fake?! Yeah... such nonsense. If you want me to believe that a character is smart, you have to demonstrate it. Create a logical path from the initial idea to the conclusion of how he deduces that the rule is fake. Merely stating it makes him seem stupid, ironically...
they suspect light all along... just like Ls broadcasts in different districts that got the fake guy pretending to be L killed narrowed his search down to the province in japan... he is fishing trying to get light to slip up and say something contradictory or get another piece of a clue together... like weather a shinigami would lie or could be forced to lie if told once they figure it out by him not dying then it confirms the rule is fake and confirms that the shinigami can lie or be forced to lie meaning that asking ryuk anything else is meaningless
there's...pretty obvious logic. -everything we know, thus far, suggests that light is kira -the only thing exonerating light is this 1 rule in the book one of two things must be true. -either that one rule is a lie, likely put there deliberately by light to prove his own innocence. -everything else we know up to this point is false, and we're back at square one. so testing the validity of that one rule seems like a very logical course of action. HOW he's proposing to test it indicates a high level of confidence. but coming up with the idea that that rule is false is not all that hard.
@@Katarax Nothing you said pertains to my argument. You dont just fish randomly. That's called guessing. And the character is supposed to be smarter than that.
It seems many who watch the show are really fking dense, Near and previous to this L was just trying to find evidence they already figure out that Light is Kira
When L was working on the case, Near was a little kid. Near joins the picture 3-4 years after L's death, I think. In that time, Kira keeps on rampaging and eventually has the majority of the world on his side.
I dont really get this. He says he wants to ask the shinigami questions. Which implies he knows its there with light and is correct as Ryuk responds. He basically asks anyways and Light chimes in to ask the question for him. Ryuk answers and now all of a sudden hes like Oh?!?!? You have a shinigami with you so it clearly must be capable of lying for you. Like what? You already knew it was with him
Haven't seen this but it makes sense. Like maybe he had a good reason to believe a shinigami was there but didn't have proof. Now he does. Basically trust but verify, or inspect what you expect.
@tonyblake7569 I mean thats fair enough. But I wish they'd worded it better. They made it seem like he 100% knee it was there and then was more or less surprised it was there. It just comes off weird
@@tonyblake7569they knew the Shinigami was there because you see it when they touch the notebook. The task force and Near was not working together but he knew there was a shinigami in the task force because L knew it.
@@slumberingemberHe knew there was a shinigami in the task force because they touched the notebook. It was explained. Near had information of what the task force knew when he took over and as L suspected it was Light, he had that information too. He asked to confirm if the shinigami was there who was seen by everyone else who touched the notebook.
Same Confusion but I think that If you Touch any Death Note then You can See The Shinigami even if it's not his Death Note(Maybe that's why Light Saw Rem In his Room when Misa Came to Meet him)
There are a lot of plot holes tbh lol Like how Kyosuke Higuchi (the first guy to get the death note after Light and Misa) didn't even notice Rem killing the guy when he asked Misa to prove she is the second Kira... Like can't he see Rem at all times?? Tf
I figured he wanted to test their reactions more than anything. Like volunteering Mello’s name and his death. Kira would jump at YES, but he knew if L was defeated, he would try to hide it so it's a false gesture. But if any of the team wasn't on Kira’s side, they'd be more inclined to doubt, since Matsuda mentioned after they found the Death Note that the 13 day rule meant that there's no way he could be Kira. So just suggesting that a rule could be fake seems like it was more intended to stir up doubt and cooperation. This would have failed if the entire squad supported Kira, but eh.
The manga shows Near deducing and planning, the anime cut half of part 2 content to fit into 11 episodes. Imagine if part 1 was cut down into 11 episodes, that's what happened to part 2 in the anime
Season 2 was such bullshit 😒. With L we had deductions in a cat and mouse game. After L we have plot contrivance and a literal god of death randomly deciding to out of nowhere change character for plot reason. Ryuuk (Lights shinigami) was a weirdo outlier for actually taking interest in mortals. Yet this one just breaks reality because it is feeling pity towards someone?
you should give the manga a shot, i still prefer the first half there, but the second half really got butchered in the anime with lots of cut content making it seem like bullshit guessing most of the time
imagine if the killer wrote down "investigator will die after the time written in the book once he writes down a name in the book." that would clear himself and get rid of his nemesis.
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Feel like the end of death note was rushed and a lowkey ass pull if anyone was going to discover Kira it was L Near kind of just showed up and automatically had all the answers 😂
The second part of Death Note is incredibly better in the manga. In the manga, Near's and Mello's part of the story is almost as long as L's, but in the anime, they rushed it to only 11 episodes, so they rushed Light's decitions, making him seem stupid, they rushed Near and Mello, making their characters lose logic and personality, soecially Near. In the manga he had his own personlaity that made him really different from L, in the anime they just made him unemotionless for no reason.
I hope some official animating studio takes up and add some animated scenes during the 2nd half. I meant like animate all from the manga and if possible, add more. The 2nd half is too rushed, Near's reasoning on how he figured out that Teru Mikami is X-Kira made more sense in the manga with actual deductive reasoning rather than just "this guy is too well-designed & animated, he must be a major character & he's X-Kira". They made Near looking like he just made some groundbreaking discovery and his reasoning is just because it is. They did Near dirty in the anime...
The second part of Death Note is incredibly better in the manga. In the manga, Near's and Mello's part of the story is almost as long as L's, but in the anime, they rushed it to only 11 episodes, so they rushed Light's decitions, making him seem stupid, they rushed Near and Mello, making their characters lose logic and personality, soecially Near. In the manga he had his own personlaity that made him really different from L, in the anime they just made him unemotionless for no reason.
Everyone mad that Neer is less patient than L is so funny 💀 L’s death is supposed to suck for the viewer/reader. You all missed the point of it because you want to believe everyone is a god. When your family dies you will understand. Sometimes there’s just no amount of right you can do to fix things. Sometimes the bad just happens. That’s what this show is. That’s what it is all about. Yes the anime rushed the ending but it didn’t forget its purpose. You all did.
Something thats always kinda bothered me about this scene, the 2 detectives on the couch, i don't remember their names, where present when light's dad cleared him of being kira via the eye deal, lights name and date of death where both visible, so the fact that that is never brought up again or in any way used as a means to "prove his innocence" kinda baffles me and made season 2 feel a lot weaker than season 1.
Near is good idk what anyone says. And no I am not comparing but Near was a worthy successor to L. Mello didn't really care apart from competition so I can't say much but he was great too.
They didnt dumb down light. Near was literally just behind L, he was the true succesor always. But Near was immature, and acted on impulse instead of calculated impulse. That rule makes no sense in relation to the others. Near deduced that much and jumped on assumption like children do. Light was use fo fighting people like L, Near was wholly different, and sense he was obviously childish more so than L, and since he was from whammy house, i think Light was expecting another L, just immature. Thats not what he got, and as he viewed Near as lesser, he got careless.
The second part of Death Note is incredibly better in the manga. In the manga, Near's and Mello's part of the story is almost as long as L's, but in the anime, they rushed it to only 11 episodes, so they rushed Light's decitions, making him seem stupid, they rushed Near and Mello, making their characters lose logic and personality, soecially Near. In the manga he had his own personlaity that made him really different from L, in the anime they just made him unemotionless for no reason.
I would’ve hung up a long time ago, moved to an isolated apartment, and never left the building unless I absolutely had to (and I would’ve worn a mask when I did go out). I would’ve ordered groceries and anything else I needed anonymously online (or under pseudonyms if a digital signature was needed) and had it delivered to my old house and snuck over there at night to pick it up. I don’t know why these people didn’t think to wear masks all the time and used pseudonyms more.
@@mask938because Light acted on an information that the task force already knew which he found out through his dad. It would have been a huge suspicion of Light suddenly went into hiding by his family. 2. The description in which L deducted right away fit Lights description, and the moment L met him he suspected it to be him. If he went to hiding then 1. How would he get money to live off as he was just a student. 2. A lot of Japan rules when it comes to renting. 3. This was made before how the internet is today.
no you are right, The reason season 2 sucked was because part 2 should had been 25 episodes or so but they cut most of it to fit into 11 episodes. It would be like if they made part 1 11 episodes instead of 25
@@zoraogrith9905I only watched the anime and I completely agree with this though. The story falls off once L dies, not by a lot, it’s still one of the best animes ever imo, but it just loses something that near and mellow can’t really replace
The thing was the notebook had rules, rules on how to use the death note. The rule Light added was the only one that wasn't an instruction of how to use the notebook but it was worded enough to make it appear like it to people.
The fucked up implication that’s not talked about nearly enough is that everyone who writes a name is destined to spend eternity in hell so bro literally sacrificed his soul to find out who kira was
Hell? What are you saying? That isn't how the Death Note, or the afterlife in general works in the series. There is no souls, you don't go to the afterlife when you die. There is no afterlife, only Mu.
I mean, the rule isn't technically real but also at the same time. Once the Shinigami gets bored, they'll write your name in the book and go find something else to pass the time.
The second part of Death Note is incredibly better in the manga. In the manga, Near's and Mello's part of the story is almost as long as L's, but in the anime, they rushed it to only 11 episodes, so they rushed Light's decitions, making him seem stupid, they rushed Near and Mello, making their characters lose logic and personality, soecially Near. In the manga he had his own personlaity that made him really different from L, in the anime they just made him unemotionless for no reason.
If i were kira i wouldn't have Lind L taylor at all. I would have strictly stuck with criminals, Would have made them write "Kira" to show that kira is real
No near just doesn't care about anything but the case. L missed obvious signs it was light because he wanted to be friends with him. After L figured out it was in a specific area of japan he should have known it was light soon after by using basic logic.
