Madness: The grid will DRAIN your EV battery to SAVE itself! | MGUY Australia 

And the Asylum is about to BURN DOWN.

​@@scottcarr3264And the plebs are the ones who will suffer, as usual

The problem is they're not IN the asylum. They're out and they've somehow taken over government. Virtually worldwide

I don't see it as lunacy. They are just showing you how much they do not value you as a person.

Fear not the Uk is right behind you in this fairyland approach , brings a tear to your eye doesn’t , knowing where still like minded after all these years . 😂

I can see buying a little putt-putt, like a golf cart, to move things around my property or maybe run over to the grocery store across the way. But no way am I buying an EV that has an advertised range that's meant to replace an ICE for actual road travel over 20 miles.

You won't need to after the Great Reset when you are stuck in your 15min city where you aren't allowed to own anything and your living pod is within a 15min walking distance of everything you can't utilise because you have a low social credit score because you had a wrong thought.

@@Acemeistre I don’t think this is an anti-EV channel and of course the opposite is pro EV channels neither of which are helpful however feel free to educate me I have an open mind I’d love you to reply for any items that Simon has got factually incorrect

@@malcolmwhite6588it's probably just a bot being used to spread the narrative and make people feel reluctant to comment on videos like this (comments generally boost videos in the algorithm's suggestions).

@@Acemeistre The more I ‘learn’ about EVs from pro-EV channels, the more I’m convinced not to own one. Anyway, I don’t own a car anymore so I will await the floods of salty tears from EV owners when vehicle excise duty comes into play in the UK from April 2025. Also, with congestion charging for EVs being introduced at £15 per day in London by the London Labour Mayor from December 25th 2025 ( notice the date and the fact that it is one of the most sacred days in the Christian calendar ). What the Labour Labour Mayor introduces may well be implemented elsewhere in the UK-tax grab incoming. Furthermore, the current income stream from ICE vehicle owners paying fuel duty will have to be replaced by another income stream for EV owners-yes, road pricing per mile, when fuel duty receipts reduce as government diktats reduce ICE vehicle usage, unless, of course, EV owners would be happy to see vital public services being defunded in order that their artificially created cheaper motoring costs can continue. Figures for the previous financial year showed that fuel duty receipts were £24.7 billion. ( www.obr.uk>TaxSpend ) EV owners will then have first hand experience of ‘Stockholm Syndrome’. Perhaps, then, the Labour voting EV owners will wonder why on earth they voted Labour. Turkeys voting for Christmas-pun unintended, but apt anyway.

Also, the WEF OWN All the Rental properties. That is what "THEY" want.

You don’t ever truly own property in the US. Even if your mortgage is paid off, just stop paying property taxes and the government will seize it.

At least in the U.S. you don't own your home. You may have made full payment for a deed, but stop paying taxes and it won't be yours for long!

@@diann546Property taxes are unconstitutional and must be abolished!

@@scottcarr3264 No they don't.

@@LeonieHall-c4o I can already see a scenario where you have a complete blackout, just the ivory tower elites are having a party with light shows with energy from your ev.

@@Acemeistre Murphy losses that can happen it will do and at the worst possible time so it isn’t entirely possible to occur and theoretical grit outage I’m not sure what you’re getting at many countries have had grid collapses for all sorts of reasons over the years. I’m not sure how familiar you are with the process of electrical generation on either a small scale or on a grid operation scale however as we progress down the pathway of renewable energy and greater numbers of electric cars it is not being anti-EV it is just being factual that it becomes more more difficult to balance The load on the grid which needs to be in sympathy with generation and also the generation when it is being fed from multiple variable sources- equally feel free to challenge me if I’m wrong on any of those aspects I have however worked around generation medium scale and have had lectures and training sessions delivered by electrical and line engineers so I do have a reasonable understanding Including a university background of electricity and magnetism

@@malcolmwhite6588you forgot to mention that bushfires happen more during hot periods than cold periods, so the grid will already be loaded excessively by A/C units, meaning the EVs will be low on charge. This happened in California a few years ago, resulting in people not being able to escape before wildfires got to their area. Those who think it's unlikely for two events to happen concurrently (especially ones that have a common causal link that makes them highly likely to coincide with each other) haven't thought it through properly.

​@@Acemeistreare you really that stupid?

@@AutoEngineerVideos yes sadly some people are very naive or not scientifically wired up so to speak or think these things are unlikely and anybody that says different is a tatter however the reality is we must prepare and be sensible about the things that can and indeed have happened

hey cool it with the anti-semitic remarks.

@@axeman2638 ???

Yer .. Just copy ...... The Chinese Communist Party (CCP )...... As they how to rule with an iron fist .... And steal anything not bolted down ...

You don't understand! In order to control the level of CO2 in the atmosphere they either have to reduce our standard of living to pre-industrial levels or they have to kill the vast majority of us! By reducing our standard of living they are trying to SAVE us all from being killed by THEM! They are godamn HEROES for trying to save us all! 🙄

Cold,poor, hungry and ANGRY.

They would if they could figure out a way to do it.

They would if they could then charge you a tax for doing it

The Fossil Fuel Corporations will empty your bank account instead. OK with that?

@@videocanonuser No, my communist friend, that´s called BUYING resources; you pay for gas, then you own it. The "Fossil Fuel Corporations" are not taking your money, they are providing resources, you pay if you want.

​@@videocanonuser Petroleum isn't a fossil fuel it's Abiotic and produced in the Earth's Mantle under tremendous pressure and heat in a natural continuous cycle and forced upward through fissures in the Earth's Crust. It's the second most prevelent liquid on the planet and won't run out for an awfully long long long long long time. The term 'fossil fuel' was a Standard Oil ( Rockefeller) invention in the late nineteenth century to brainwash the public into thinking it was a scarce resource so as to keep the barrel price artificially high.

I think that is the definition of " you are toast "

You missed the message. They want your battery storage to feed the grid in demand times. Forget the bushfire crap. LOL Labor voters shhh!

yeh, because the grid can just do that! FFS this is a trial of something and even it did become a thing its not something that could be done without (A) your permissions, and (B) modification to your car.

@@simonchallenor1006makes sense.

@@simonchallenor1006 And the elephant in the room is the grid is failing to cope thanks to renewables.

Oh come on! Just PLAN your emergencies! You luddites just need to learn to plan your unplanned emergencies. Simple 🤣

@@mikepickford1 It would be a lot easier if the power companies could produce a schedule for their unexpected power outages so that we can plan accordingly

@@JerryWalker001 Yes! and the weather guys, earthquake and the fire services too. We all deserve to know when these emergencies and accidents are going to happen! What is this? Stone age? We are all busy. We need to plan these unplanned things.

@@mikepickford1 Yes, They all work on the old adage, 'FAIL TO PLAN - WE PLAN TO FAIL'.

@@JerryWalker001 Government. The only thing it succeeds at is unaccountable failure. You can count on that enough to plan your future assured of their failure.

Damn

I will never go Ev. But if I were to, I'd setup a huge diode check valve. This way, DC voltage will only go into my car, never out. 3 diodes in series, for each conductor going to my car 😂😂😂

did you know that all the electricity generation is already paid for by your taxes , this isn't a theory it is true , look into it , yet you pay a third party for doing nothing , nice little earner

@@andywarrington4738 Agree. It's a mess.

@@jakefriesenjake There are better ways of achieving this.

That is what the 'privilege fee' is for. They charge you for the privilege of being connected to their supply, in fairness that cost should become zero for them to have that same privilege of taking your power from your source. Legally they really need to be challenged on that point, it might change their mind.

😂😂😂😂

evilgrin

Yes, the "petrol heads" need electricity too (in petrol pumps, traffic lights... ).

​@@teekey1754 my mentor used to keep 30 gallons of gas at home. 6 5 gallon jugs. Periodically fills his vehicle with one or two & replenished the jugs to keep it fresh. Gravity feed and hand pumps are things.

@@rocketpigrecords3719 Most people prefer not to keep so much gas at home and rely on gas stations.

Neither of those scenarios will happen.

@@simoncrooke1644 What makes you this will not happen, do you understand what has been said about the grid, the UK will collapse under Liebour, they are going to let in millions of illegal/legal migrants, higher taxes to pay for it all, when the money runs out, what then?

@@simoncrooke1644 Well it's a comfort to know that with such certainty. Totally put my mind at rest.

9 more days…

​@@simoncrooke1644Arrr, yep the grid in Australia couldn't supply demand before the government shut down reliable generation, its already reality my learned friend.

@klimatbluf Absolutely! Government is the only perpetual motion machine that can save the planet by creating infinite debt and bankruptcy of a nation

I wish that was true, but car manufacturers have had hand outs/ subsidies from Gov. in the past. However the public have not been so "lucky" with ICE vehicles.

2008 bailout backlash still running wild.

@@andy530i ~ The car manufacturers that have gotten government handouts are corporations that run on credit. Governments also run on credit. "The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender". Corporations and government serve their creditors, and they don't serve the people.

You seem to be blissfully unaware of reality. Good for you.

Who's voting for those governments ?

@@teekey1754 Same people you see in those movies. Simple brain sheep.

Oh, Is that why Chris Bowen Has ONE.

You need a whole Brain before you can see the advantages of an EV.

​@scottcarr3264 Yes, you only need half a brain not to go EV.

He would have to have one to make it look good. Probably paid for by you and i.

@@evfactsnotliesplease Ok hitler keep your pants on 😂

Keep voting in the Democrats and idiots and this is the world you let them create.

is it though? or are you just noticing now?

And paying you a fraction of what you paid them for it the day before

People who are better educated and more knowledgeable than you!

@@videocanonuser Sadly your joke didn't hit.

However, be happy in the process.

WEF Agenda 2030 "You will own nothing, have no privacy, and be happy"

Freezing, wet and stranded!

The starvation and planned shortages will continue until morale improves!

In communist sytem poverty was something to share with applause because it was sign of good manner. .

WHAT scenario you talking about?

@@fubarnz That.

Yep, you got it in a nut shell.

it doesnt work with a Tesla so you cant do it!

Even washing your tesla voids the warranty

@@waynehewett4017 you lot will believe anything

Opening the door for the first time on a Tesla voids the warranty, doesn't it?

@@waynehewett4017 I thought it was the first time you breathed in it with the doors shut.

So the lines companies could artificially create shortages in 1 area of the grid, buy it back cheap from you and then resell it to someone else in another area, rinse and repeat!😂

Who are you Kidding, Not 30 cent per kWh more like 60 cents. But yeah, Stupid and Expensive for you, and the Labour Government DON'T give a Damn.

you ok?

@@JohnBradley-y9y are you?

You guys need to stand up and overthrow your tyrannical government! We may need to do the same if our elections are stolen a second time!

Vote right.

How's that approach working out? Bet your accountant looks quietly over their glasses with a small lost for words type grin when you speak.

If the Battery is Full and "they" Discharge it at the rate they will, I think the Battery will catch on Fire itself.

@@scottcarr3264 I can imagine anyone who charges overnight would be adding a loss of power alarm to their home. You don't want your battery discharging in at a sustained rate until it is drained. As well as the fire risk there is the problem that a fully discharged battery is about as welcome as a hedgehog in a lucky dip (porcupine in a bran tub for the USA).

Salt water will do it

Of course servicing and legalisation need to be duty of owner, he need to call approved institution and pay . . Not exactly same as with clocks in gas station. if valid documents are is not send than power line may be disconnected?

Yes sixthsence, a bi-directional charger is required. Don’t have one no-one can suck any power from the EV. Though the incentive to get a bi-directional charger will be paying around 1 cent a KW/h when there’s abundant solar electricity & being paid 40+ cents a KW/h between 6 to 9pm when peak demand kicks in. Cars, well EVs anyway, will go from something that costs money for the convenience of personal on-demand transport to money making pots of gold that can also get you places. Smarter than smart for those ready to take advantage of technology.

@@markboscawen8330 unless you have solar/wind energy that you feed (sell) the grid, just owning an EV will never “make you money” - electric suppliers are never going to pay you more for electricity than they sell it to you for - so you pay more for electricity you take (buy) from the grid than they pay you to take (sell) the electricity from your EV‘s battery - depending on how often this happens the state of charge of your battery and the percentage of charge that’s reduced over time it’s going to be reducing the total capacity (life span) of your battery - and this doesn’t include the problem of going out to find your EV‘s battery at 20% charge when you need it most after a grid “emergency” - in California they limit the amount of electricity you can put into the grid from solar or wind and they always pay you less than what they charge for

@@markboscawen8330 You will never make back the wear and tear on your battery so I hope you do it.

@@ragtowne Tell me you don’t know about supply/demand, arbitrage & Australia’s National Electricity Market without telling me … Agree, an electricity retailer will never sell you back your electricity for less than they pay for it, but they will happily sell it to others for more than what they’ve paid you. So there will be ample opportunity to charge up on very cheap solar power & then sell it later when RE generation isn’t as plentiful & demand is higher so the price paid is higher. While each individual EV will only power a couple of homes, when tens of thousands are hooked up the power supplied will equal the output of a power station. No doubt some will look at their immediate travel plans & the weather forecasts & even wait a few days to sell at an even higher price. Making even more money from their EV’s battery. Overall, the $$$ earned will more than pay for any degradation from additional cycles. Especially as batteries get better & last longer. And with a couple of swipes of an app the EV owner will be able to set how much power they want to sell so there is always enough charge left for their next journey. Now ragtowne, technology laggards will be welcome to keep their ICE car that costs money to run & earns nothing extra as well as paying the top rate for electricity supplied by EVs. It will be their loss.

No compensation of any kind, because the Di** heads in Government think it is a great Idea.

The acronym would be ANUS. LOL ☺☺

As a power station worker MecTeacher you would well understand how grid scale batteries provide FACS services far faster than any mechanical generator can. And as the Hornsdale Power Reserve has already proven, batts save electricity consumers hundreds of thousands of $$ in not having to pay for a large capacity of spinning reserve. As to the ‘huge load’ of EVs. That will be only be a 15% increase in demand when post around 2050 when every* single ICE car is in a wreckers yard & we all drive EVs instead. ‘God’ has ample time to enhance electricity distribution networks to cope. Although it looks like that won’t be as big as task as initially thought. As it’s now technically possible to install grid independent PV solar powering DC to DC EV chargers. These PV systems will cover out-door shopping centre & commuter carparks shading vehicles whilst simultaneously charging hundreds of EVs without affecting the grid by 1 watt. Parking fees including nominal charging costs. * museum exhibits & classic/historic registered cars excepted.

I understand about those batteries. My concern is whether the local electricity distribution network (and subsequent upgrades) will keep up with all this extra demand from growing population, feed-ins like solar, and now EV charging. It’s just an observation over the years as the typical deviation in mains voltage is slightly larger nowadays compared to years ago.

@@MecTecher The technical & financial success of the HPR in South Australia has prompted investment in hundreds of MW scale big battery projects at other locations in the Australian (east coast) grid. As these come on line grid stability & robustness will be enhanced. Additionally, EVs when in V2G mode will be under orchestrated control to act as a virtual power plant. Quickly filling supply gaps & maintaining grid integrity.

Of what I have seen it Doesn't EXIST.

there's not enough lithium in the world for that battery bank.

If we could build that 'humongous battery bank' it should be located in Canberra, right under Parliament House, which should be fitted with electric doors (that won't open when the power fails.) Then when the battery exploded into flames, we could celebrate!

If only we had a cheap and stable energy storage solution. One that had a high energy density, was easily available and could be stored for a reasonable period as well as being portable. It could be a liquid, one that we can carry around in containers and share out between vehicles using simple, existing technologies. If only...

You won’t use that much power overnight

Ah well, what you do - no, seriously - is this: during the day your solar panels charge up a big battery you've set up at home . Then you charge your EV from that battery at night. Somewhat inefficient (and expensive) and a nasty fire risk, but at least the grid can't tap into it. Simples |-)

Make everyone work at night. Simple!

@@robinbeckford Did you read the bit I posted about these home batteries being able to be tapped as well? Why do you think that they're installing smart meters all over the place? This is one reason imo. Sort of defeats the purpose of having a home battery if you use it to charge your EV in a power outage as well.

​@@robinbeckford All you need to do is install a device sensor that measures battery outflow when the EV is turned off and being charged. When the sensor sees electricity outflow from the battery, it will disconnect the battery from the grid.

@@oldbloke204 Well, my comment wasn't really serious but the setup I suggested would be separate from the grid.

Or you will be fined by the government for not using your car as a battery for the grid

@@icedriver2207or both, so you pay the extra $$$ for the charger that doesn't feed back into the grid, and you get fined for not feeding back.

isn't that what happens already?

@@axeman2638 sort of, if you mean taxes. I mean like, "Hey, we have no money left for gender studies. we need you people to give us all money"

Dont say that, or they'll probably find a way to do it.

I move my money to other countries beyond the reach of my home country to a less hungry country then I convert it to durable goods you have to be physically present and the goods have to be physically present at the same time to confiscate.

Nuclear is the way to go in my opinion as well. we have big uranium reserves here in Australia, so we should be getting plans drawn up and start building nuclear power stations Stat!

It's worse in cold weather. All batteries hate the cold.

ignorance is bliss. trust the government. big brother loves you.

For how long do you think they will continue to vote Liberal or Labor?

He’ll be like all the other fanboys and turn a deaf ear, it’s frustrating to know how dumb they are

He is busy not being an ignorant paranoid conspiracy theorist.

@@evfactsnotliesplease please explain the conspiracy amongst this I believe I have a fairly technical background and I am not familiar with which aspects will in fact be conspiracy don’t just be critical backing up with facts of your own would be my suggestion

@@evfactsnotliesplease oh I’ve just noticed your username so even more so if you are interested in EV fax not lies please counter these arguments and explain the factual basis of it I have an open mind

@@malcolmwhite6588 In case you missed it malcolm, NOBODY here is interested in facts or fax as you put it.

Yes, and participation will be voluntary. It's all part of the future smartgrid. There is nothing sinister in all this. However, there is a lot of hyperventilation and nonsense in these comments.

They used the word "donate" so probably not

@@simoncrooke1644 how do you know participation will be voluntary

@@simoncrooke1644 Thanks Simon the crook. I will opt out forever.

@@simoncrooke1644 They are already going to charge people for excess home electricity supply to the grid. And yet you believe they will pay you for for running up the charge cycles on your car battery? LOL

You'd "Light him Up", wouldn't you.

Struggling here in Oz as well. So I don't think it will get off the Ground really, most people will put in Diodes to stop them "Getting Bitten".

What, A Politician ??

@@kevansimister3967 lots of people in the UK are Increasing numbers of battery electric vehicles (BEVs) are now entering the used sector, with Q1 sales up by more than two thirds (71.0%) to 41,505 - posting a new record market share of 2.1%. This makes BEVs the fastest growing powertrain as more buyers are attracted to the potential cost-saving and environmental benefits. Hybrids (HEVs) also continued to sell in greater volumes, with 74,502 changing hands in a 49.3% rise. Plug-in hybrids (PHEVs), too, grew in popularity, with sales up 42.5% to 22,065.

@@scottcarr3264 No, Battery car. The politicians are already bought. The less scrupulous politicians are bought several times.

That sounds like projection to me.

@@simoncrooke1644 remember the lockdown? Most of the people were compliant. Remember the vaccine mandate? Most people had taken the vaccine without question.

@@simoncrooke1644 Yes we vomit when he are fed crap.

Participation would never be compulsory. Think about it.

Yes.

Because Mandates and fines are not a thing? LOL

What about the solar on people’s homes? How many of them are destroyed?

@@tarwod1098 yes. And many insurance companies exclude solar panel coverage. The solar farms are also under water. How many times do you rebuild a nuclear plant?

@@tarwod1098 Most homes don't have enough solar to charge a Battery car in a day and 90% or more of homes in Texas don't have solar.

gonna have a lot of people wake up in the morning to find their cars dead. those 12+ hr at home chargers are worthless

@@BlueBD Indeed... Though it was started that the grid would only take upto 20-30% of the ev charge I suspect that in an emergency that would be scrapped instantly. Suddenly there will be alot of emergencies....

​All you need to do is install a device sensor that measures battery outflow when the EV is turned off and being charged. When the sensor measures electricity outflow from the battery, it will disconnect the battery from the grid.

@@jacksak lol 3 issues with your comment 1) the more people use them like you stated the quicker any gov makes them illegal. 2)in some countries(UK is one) it is illegal for anyone not qualified too installl anything electrical too a home, so a sensor techniacally(and would quickly become a requirement) would require an electriction who would likely have too report this to the gov. 3) and finally you would rather deprive the grid of the much needed boost to the power grid just so you can use the ev? The same problem most likely caused by netzero and ev's lol PS I am not say or accusing you of any of this by the way. It is just a pount of fact.

@@hudsonbear5038 even if by some miracle you are not talking out the back of your head, don’t you think that there will be a limit so that the car is never left dead in the water?

George Orwell 1984

Yes, and I Bet that Chris Bowen had something to do With it. He's Stupid Enough.

Parent's basement.

Tell Them They Are DREAMING

Of course.

With 🌈 & 🦄💨

They are already starting to charge customers for generating electricity and returning it to the grid.

That's the Best bet.

As long as it gets enough votes to continue ... it will continue

The government is doing the bidding of the WEF.

Hello John 😁

@@IntrepidsRus What a bigger surprise! We be self educating! 👍😆

@@JohnShinn1960 for sure John, never too old 😜

We both came to the same conclusion. Just sitting here talking to Jamie as I read the ABC article saying, 'they're lying', I don't believe them. This happened back in February and we hear of it now? I call bullshit...and then there's the technical stuff you mention, you're absolutely correct.

​Anyway, all you need to do is install a device sensor that measures battery outflow when the EV is turned off and being charged. When the sensor measures electricity outflow from the battery, it will disconnect the battery from the grid.

And then they fall over, Exhausted.

I think the Fact is that the Labour Government HATES the People, and want to get rid of us, so that we will Stop Complaining about their Abuses of US.

If they get no votes they can do no damage.

The biggest flaw in current democracy is lazy negligent voters.

Short Answer, No.

@@scottcarr3264 Answer to what? There was no question, and I never claimed that using EV’s this way is either good or bad.

@@michaeletzel4877 "There was no question". So why does your post finish with a question mark?

@@daleviker5884 Fair enough. In my own mind the question was rhetorical.

It's not even the electricity they take, it's the extra charge cycles they put on your car battery that are the true cost.