Madoka Magica Has the MOST BRUTAL Ending 

And then even after all that it was doomed by the narrative

that's so tragic from homura's end. literally the last thing she wanted happened and it was directly because of her own actions. she loved madoka so much that she caused her to cease to exist. i can't blame her for what she did in rebellion at all, the guilt (and the self-hatred that comes w that) of knowing that i was the one who robbed my loved one of their entire existence when i was just trying to keep them safe and happy would tear me up inside, too.

@@juniper1350 I wouldn't say she cease to exist. She still is, just as a god, not physically anymore, but still. her soul still is and she influences the world.

The idea of becoming what someone who loves you sees is amazing to me. There’s a manga I can’t say the name of so I won’t spoil it but one of the characters loses her memory and can only see herself through the lense of what the boy who was in love with her previous self saw her as. He filmed what he believed were her final moments and filmed how he viewed her, and she becomes that person. She is the view of someone who loved her and I find that incredible- kind of like how madoka became a literal constant of the universe, just like how homura believed her to be

@@eldritchcupcakes3195 Does it become with R?

This video cuts out the part where the mom mentioned that

NOO HE'S GONNA FORGET HER

@@juniper1350 Watch Rebellion _wink wink_

If only that applied to real world adults 😅

That.... Isn't actually accurate to the real world. At least not for me. It's incredibly difficult, which is probably why most people just accept it and move on. But unless it's like literally death or sudden disability. Most things can really change if you are willing to force them to change.

@@Myke_thehuman You just admitted that most people just accept and move on

What do you mean "despite everything that happened"? Nothing happened to Hitomi. Why would she not think of Sayaka as a friend?

Because they are friends??? Who liked the same person????

@@alilith3476 But if anyone would have a problem, it'd be Sayaka. Hitomi got the guy.

@@Kaylakaze because a lot of people love to demonize hitomi and mischaracterize as not caring about sayaka or her feelings. it's a big problem in the fandom

Wait what? I didn't notice that until now. Damn

i would still consider it "saving" bc she literally prevents them from becoming witches and she's doing it in a way that isn't painful. compare this to how homura mercy-killed madoka; they're very different

@@juniper1350 Yeah, I guess I just consider "Saving" to mean... extending their life... This is like she's "Saving" you from a Car crash by blowing up your car with a rocket launcher before it hits the other cars

That's the thing- Madoka always respected girls wishes to become magical girls, no matter what. She just gives them fair ending, while allowing them to try and risk their lives for happiness and hope on Earth to exist SPOILER FOR MOVIE BELOW -while Homura could not accept Madoka's wish and had to give her happy ending on her, Homura's term

@@charlenka True to a point, magical girls still get tricked by kubey and the cosmic karma thing is still in place, meaning, for what ever good they wished for, they get a lot of suffering with it. They still suffer a lot, most of the time.

​@@fee6362 Some may be tricked but others like Mami may have a better chance of happiness. "Careful what you wished for" can be applied to things that people deal with naturally anyway so throwing some actual wish granting magic into the mix is just a bit of flavor. Stories like Kyouko's or Sayaka's can happen without the magic, the magic just helped them be the cause of a part of it.

They essentially go to heaven with Madoka

pretty much, but a universe with incubators in it probably does not have a naturally occurring God to maintain a heaven.@@itamochivargas6233

in the become a witch universe their death isn't a prank, it's worse its being condemned to a hellish void of eternal suffering where you cannot help but make other people's existence as hellish as your own until one day a Magical Girl comes to put you out of your misery but you know it won't be an end to the suffering since she too will eventually fall to despair and become a Witch just like you. Madoka broke the cycle, she lets Magical Girls continue to exist and bring hope/joy to the world but when their burden becomes too heavy and they fall to despair Madoka eases their burden so they can finally rest without their misery destroying the world they fought to protect

@@itamochivargas6233 no it's not heaven. they just go into a coma like state and then madokami wakes them up to do erands for the god who killed them.

but what about characters like nagisa, who never really did anything good. so what's the point of killing her off?

Mannn thats so sad 😢

Huh...so Hitomi confronted one of her best friends about a boy they both have a crush on, she ended up confessing first and hooking up with him, the friend is found dead a couple of days later, and then it turns out the boy is a terrible partner. That's definitely not going to haunt her for the rest of her life

​@@pipedream2556Hitomi actually makes me sad, i know she's not important, but still

...oh no that's terribly sad I never knew that.

god that's so incredibly fucked up, she's the only magical girl without magic weapons and most of the other ones are unwilling to listen to her long enough to prepare to fight and likely die before the end of the month, mami we know isnt't strong enough from timeline 1, and if madoka makes a wish then that's also going to end up with homura resetting the timeline to avoid seeing her become a witch

I will be in your Walls tonight.

no, you didn't see the purple aura around weapons? she enchanted with her magic same way that Mami use on baseball bat for Sayak to a protect herself. but it clearly that Homura magic not use for fight in the first place so her magic just not powerful enough to fight with Walpurgisnacht all alone.

Walpurgis is built different Atrociously tanky

i wonder what their wish was, becouse is not like any of them 3 had a happy life, not even close

magical girl Joan of arc has a spin off manga called Tart Magica

@@kikofernandez9184 I mean isn't that kind of the thing? No character in this who gets their wish granted end up happy. The mark of a magical girl is tragedy and sacrifice.

Anne's wish could have been for others, or for the "end" of the Holocaust.

@@hel117 yeah fair point there

Please no upskirt perspective

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Poofy skirt, cutsy socks, pastel colors and everything

On it

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Wouldn't it be better then to just make them not be magical girls when they reach that point ? Like, when their gem is fully corrupted they permanently lose their powers and all the impurity gets of the sould and manifests as something, there's the risk of the girls dying but a chance it's better than certain doom That way the girl still keep her wish, but doesn't die as a consequence

@@julianogueira714She can't. Ther _has_ to be balance and the girls have to pay a price for making the impossible possible.

@@julianogueira714there has to be a price

She basically gave them a valhalla like afterlife to go to. A reward in death rather then an eternal torture of becoming a witch that creates even more suffering and grief. I actually love the ending. It's kinda the perfect way to go for this sort of anime about despair and hope.

This is true if by 'saving' you mean 'avoiding death' --they certainly still die if they don't fight well enough. But considering that now they basically go to heaven with Madoka as their psychopomp instead of becoming horrible monsters that destroy other people's lives while not being destroyed by other magical girls... I'd say Madoka saved them, yes.

KYubey: hold on let me check my notes hold on this doesn't seem physically possible Madoka:fuck yu I'ma god now I do what I want kyubey: motherfu-

@@sarafontanini7051 Kyubey: hey thats not very balanced. Madoka: so?

@@matheusm.santana6527 madoka: okay and?

​@@matheusm.santana6527 madoka: yes....and?

i can't find the scene i saw it happen i remember watching it but i can't find it

Same I love this movie and I am waiting for the next Madoka Magica movie

Me too man, I hope he'll react to it😭😭

Yes please

Oh the one fight scene... Look if you have seen it you know which one

​@@mattemactics1280lesbian gothic girl vs emotionally unstable girl?

Also our furry "friend" did say he was trying to stop the universe from dying so If she did kill him she might have also doomed the universe, where he said "others" live and there is no way she would be willing to do that

homoura on demon time :D

I hope he feels my favorite line into his soul " I shouldn't have let you go"

Madoka walked so the Sailor Moon universe could run😩😭

​@@sugasweet435 omg 😭😭

Thats why we have rebellion

Walpurgisnacht rising should be coming out this season though 🔥🔥

The big difference is who is doing the choosing

Madoka 🤝 The Matrix both doing it right 😳

The chosen one is a good concept the problem comes when a character who was supposed to be random becomes the center of the universe because REASONS. Like you have the mystic fruit of the gods or your grand grand grand grand grand grandfather was half alien so you have some alien blood. Subversion doesn't mean it's good but it's for sure different.

Ikr!! When i was watching the show for the first time i was like "what why would you let your daughter go in the middle of a natural desaster!! To save a friend?? Dafuq just go where its safe" lmao 💀

Yeah I was confused at his hyperfixation on her slap. I mean, her middle school aged daughter just told her that she’s going out into a sudden storm that is basically fated to wipe out the city, it’s no wonder she thought Madoka needed to get a grip

@@sylver_drawer I don't know if you watch them but the reaction channel YaBoyRoshi are pretty much the only reactors I've seen be like wtf to her letting Madoka go and that's because they're parents themselves, so they were immediately like oh hell no lol

@@dejajade6726 I loved that, I would have DRAGGED her back lol

Yeah its like the one context I think a firm face slap is deserved or valid lol, she's trying to shock her into not basically killing herself in the hurricaine (from her mom's pov)

She's so selfless that realizing she wanted a little more than just wanting to hear Kyosuke play one more time killed her. Seriously how do people hate this girl

and you will more annoyed her when watching other side stories. this girl is just ridiculous stubborn head. no matter peoples try treat her good but she just throw it away and keep thought that she was a 'right' one and if someone try to stop her that people will be a bad guy in her eyes. = = in Rebellion redemption her after she know the truth and saw how suffering Homura been from the past. ( and yes... mostly problem was from Sayaka as well )

madohomu the doomed tragic yuri ever

TRAGIC YURI🙏🙏🙏🙏

DOOMED YURI MY LIFEBLOOD 🙏

So did eleven year old bisexual girl me bingeing the show on my kindle in a day

@@Pinkywinkykinky and you were real for that

*plays "not yet" in my piano*

Frr. Currently watching magia record and am loving it.

Is the side series really, REALLY worth watching? I've loved Madoka since Season 1 came out. It's one of my favorite anime. But, like... I just can't bring myself to care about the side series anime, lol. Dunno why.

The spinoff wasn’t very good but rebellion is worth watching

@@virtuosoflux no, i watched all of it and the writing is nothing near as good as the main series. Having watched all of it, i don't care about the new characters.

How much we gotta shill to make him watch Rebellion? 😅

@@rach3092 I know, right? T-T

Except that's not what happened at all

I didn't get a feeling of reluctance from Madoka after she made her wish, though. She comforted Homura because now that she knew everything, she finally could. But while Homura has a downer take on everything, Madoka is always correcting her about why this is a good thing. I mean, how many times did Homura say something and Madoka had to say "no, that's wrong"? LOL

@@JDJeanMichelHomura wasn’t “being a downer” she’s in incredible emotional pain. The only person she loves is not only going to get erased forever, but it’s also a self sacrifice and Madoka never gets to live the happy life she could have. Everyone else gets to experience relief and hope, but it’s an awful ending for both Madoka and Homura. They don’t get their happy endings. Madoka can accept this but Homura struggles to

This is the most perfect explanation I’ve ever read. But could you please elaborate more on the rumor aspect?? I thought uwasas were only a thing in magia record??

@@savannahs.5874 And MagiReco was in development around the same time as Rebellion. I’m not 100% sure on the specifics, but I’m pretty sure that Uwasa are… more generic wish/magic-created entities, as opposed to a Nemu-specific thing. As for the Rumor of the Law of Cycles, it’s referenced as a Rumor in Rebellion at one point iirc, the way Homura separates it from Madoka is incredibly similar to how one separates any other Uwasa from a person… and in JP MagiReco, the Rumor of the Law of Cycles _does_ make a solo appearance. And you know what form it takes? That of an Incubator, just with the pink and white fur swapped.

@@JDJeanMichel If you've watched Rebellion you know that Madoka herself doesn't see her choice (to be erased, specifcially, not how she saves magical girls) to be "not what she wants". At least partially. So she's at least semi-lying about it being ok and being totally happy, even if its still largely her intention. Realising that is the catalyst for Homura's complete psychotic break and a big part of why she does what she does at the end of the movie.

.... That is beyond fucked up and I hate the implications that it has.

yeah exactly, MADOKA never existed. The wish seems to grant the power necessary to complete itself. But for her to reach every magical girl ever since the beginning of time until the end of time she needs to be a being that transcends time itself, A God or Governing law of the universe. That means she can't exist physically. But as a God, "The Law of Cycles" exists in every time, everywhere, always. Madoka has become a being, like Kyube said, with no beginning and no end. Which means that in this universe that Madoka rebuilds, she exists since its conception and even before the birth of the Human Race or even before the birth of the Incubators. And when a Magical Girl dies, they join her as agents of this Law. They basically join Madoka as part of the Law of Cycles and cease to exist as physical beings. How could her parents remember birthing a being that predates them? But Homura's wish was specifically "I want to redo my meeting with Miss Kaname. But this time, instead of her protecting me, I want to become strong enough to protect her" so in a world where Madoka, doesn't exist, only someone whose wish was centered on meeting her again and being strong enough to save her could possibly be able to remember her. But this also begs the question, what was Homura's wish in this new timeline where Madoka never existed and why did that result in her having a bow instead of a shield? My theory is that under madoka's influence as a God, Homura can't turn back time because she can't go back to save Madoka, a human who never existed. ***SPOILERS FOR REBELLION*** but once the incubators place Homura in the isolation field, cutting her off from the law of cycles, she once again gained the power to manipulate time BECAUSE she is cut off from Madoka's influence. because Madoka existed once again as Madoka and not as The Law of Cycles inside of the isolation field, Homura had the ability to use her original wish to save Madoka and thus regained her original weapons and power to manipulate time. That's also why, placing her in the isolation field with a God, temporarily turned human again, they gave Homura a HUGE amount of Karmic Destiny. She now, as a magical girl in that isolation field, had the wish and the opportunity to prevent a God from being a God. This was the only way in which she could fulfill her wish and that wish was directly tied to the Karmic destiny of a GOD. Not to mention, Homuras wish was SPECIFICALLY NOT TO BE SO WEAK THAT MADOKA HAS TO PROTECT HER!!! "But this time, instead of her protecting me, I want to become strong enough to protect her!" Her destiny is to be strong enough to protect a GOD, and the incubators made it possible because they let Madoka and the law of cycles enter the isolation field as Madoka. Only in Homura's weird messed up way.

This hurts so much it is really well written

The alternative would be Urobuchi writing just the outline and walking, giving us Aldnoah Zero or Psycho-Pass Season 2. Then Shaft goes back to making Bakemonogatari Season 23.

@@godowskygodowsky1155 Ironically, he finished writing the script between 2014-2016, so it's really been everyone else on the project who's been taking ages to finish it lmao.

Well the new movie is set to release this winter

Wait you mean there is?! Please tell me

​@@ChaseWood-_def_gay_The show got 2 recap movies, one SEQUAL movie and another movie on it's way.

It also has a few manga with new characters and plot And you know an anime is popular when it has a gacha game (Magia Record) having an anime adaptation

to be fair, rebellion has fuck all to do with wraiths lmao. It is a pretty good continuation tho.

@@CorralSummer It has a little, the fact that they should be there is like the second clue something is wrong after seeing characters that shouldn't be there. I think the clues are fun sorry

It's "opening" for spin off, wraith arc

I don't know whether to be happy or scared.@@str4wb3rr4

Well rebellion says screw you to the wraiths, that's where the manga spinoff comes in

Thats the joke, yes

I just thought "food???" Maybe somebody got that cake after all. omg he is going to lose his mind at the cake scene in the movieT_T XD

This was beautiful

In our world, Walpurgisnacht is a date, rather than a person - It's Saint Walpurgis Night, also known as Beltane or May Day. It's originally a pagan holiday welcoming the turn of the seasons, celebrated with bonfires and parties and, ah, fertility related activities. When the church claimed the date for Saint Walpurgis, they declared that everybody getting together to party were witches, so Walpurgisnacht was a night when all the witches gathered together. As Madoka visits the magical girls of the past, their silhouettes disappear from among the familiars.

Walpurgisnacht is also a congregation of witches.

I hope in the new movie we can learn more who Walpurgisnacht was as a magical girl. And if she represents helplessness I'm sure her backstory will be messed up!

truck-kun probably has the highest KDA of an anime character(dont count wiping humanity from earth) thanks to the massive amount of isekai's out there

TWELVE FUCKING YEARS?! Good gods that's brutal...

I think its actually 100 year's as i read in in thw wiki but that was like 8 year's ago so idk

@@the12rosegarden7 You probably confuse it with the number of cycles she went through. Average of 6 week cycles, which then add up to 12 years time total 😊

This was written by your inner Greek mythology kid wasn’t it? (Don’t worry I was one too)

@@meeeg7029 nothing inner abt it, lol. i LOVE mythology. (pjo has not helped this at all.)

Titans ARE gods. The classifications are Olympians and Titans. Plus others that are in neither group

I believe what Danny was getting at here was whether or not Kyubey was the Madoka Magica's version of prometheus. And it does make sense, since prometheus is merely an allegory to human's first step into using knowledge and technology. And in this world Kyubey implies that without their race, humanity would not have propelled forwards in that direction.

@@humourlessjester3584 no, i get that, it just bugged me a little.

What makes it even better is that it doesn't "betray" what the magical girl genre is. It might be darker and a bit tragic than some other magical girl series, but it still holds on to those same core beliefs. That love and hope can and will save the world, it might hurt, and you might bleed, but it's still worth believing in.

The other funny thing is that apparently magical girl stories can get dark and frequently do. Puella Magi Madoka Magica is just making that dark side prevalent.

Her afterlife is more Buddhist than Norse. Nirvana, not Valhalla.

I know, I know! It is fun to see parallels between them, though. There was always this emphasis on how magical girls' fight is never done, and valkyries carried the people who died honourable death in battle, so I thought it was a neat little parallel, even though probably unintentional ;)

What's fascinating is.. it could Actually be a living body. As The entity states a society that has individuals with Emotions is; to their understanding of the universe; vastly impossible without intervention. Thus It could be that each of the Kyubbeis are actual individuals of the race, but they have a Amalgamation like Hive mind. Their physical bodies are actual bodies, but to them they are so disjointed from it that they are puppets to themselves.

Speaking as a former kid with no support system and a lot of messed up crap, this is a load of nonsense. The age isn't what makes mistakes ok, it's the severity of what you do. Watch a kid make a mistake that costs them their quality of life or their life entirely and see how ridiculous it is to say that childhood fuckups have a lot less stakes. A kid is one crossing a street without looking away from dying or being messed up for life.

@@pastelmusic409 I mean that's cool and all bro but I did say most kids have support systems, not every kid. I am in fact one of those too. Adults can cross the street without looking so like that example doesn't quite fit as a kid-exclusive fuckup. I don't know how to tell you this but kids don't cause fuckups that lead to major life changes as a regular thing. Adults, however? Even seemingly little things like getting into a fight with a friend can be a major source of issues in your life, and for those who rely on you. Regardless I am just explaining what Madoka's mom was trying to say. That mistakes are easier and better to learn from as a child so you can deal with them better as an adult. It wasn't just drunken bullshit spitting, she actually had a point she was trying to convey. To be honest, I blame the writers because it wasn't clear to me for a good while either. I think I actually had to hear the same advice from another form of media to get it lol

@@DamiesEvilTwin Learn to summarize. That is literally 2 times almost 3 the amount I said to you. I am entirely disinterested in your ridiculous lecture on how you think you're right that kids can make mistakes with few consequences. That simply is not the case. Even for kids with support systems, age is not what determines the severity of consequences.

@@pastelmusic409 BRo if you're so disinterested then why the fuck are you even here

​@pastelmusic409 i mean kids can make mistakes with terrible consequences but usually these choices aren't easily acessible for them Like a kid spending all their money on impulse would just be empty pocketed for a while, and idealy the parent would still provide their basic needs Now an adult spending all their money, credit card, getting a big loan just on impulse, that has catastrophic consequences, they will pass hunger, can lose their house, get indebted for the rest of their life, and that without considering if they have kids to take care of Kids mistakes usually are more silly ones and don't have heavy consequences, the opition to make fuck ups like adults is not something most kids have, kids can't have credit cards, drink alchool(idealy) or just take a car or plane to go whatever, and usually their not responsible for sustaning neither themselfs or anyone else Also because these mistakes are usually low stake it's easier to forgive/forget/move on, wich is why it's easier to learn like this instead of as an adult where it can have permanent consequences or you can be heavilly blamed/reponsabilized Not saying kids can't make choices that ruin their lifes, but normally this isn't the case

and selfess. it's both

@@juniper1350Nah it’s definitely shelfish

@@juniper1350 considering what happens in the sequel movie it’s more selfish than anything 😭

And she was so right for that

​​@@the_only_crow1036It's not selfish. She is actually fulfilling Madoka's true wish behind her God of the Universe persona she was inclined to assume to help people, without expecting anything from Madoka in return

It was so weird. I adored it but it was so weird lmao

manga vol. 1 -> anime from 2nd ep to before the ending -> manga or the Netflix version