It's not a black hole however. If it was it'd be a more deep shade of purple around the edges and would have electricity-like current crackling around it, since that is how all gravity-related stuff appears in this game.
@@eclips_total2215 First. The Great Will gave her a series of instructions and she passed them on to her children who would be the two fingers, but at some point they stopped talking to each other, seeing herself abandoned she decomposed and decayed, from then on the only thing she did was repeat the last thing that The Great Will had told her and her children repeated the same thing as her. When you advance in the story, the two fingers of the round table try to communicate with The Great Will so that the tree gets rid of its thorns, but the old woman tells you that it could take thousands of years to receive an answer. Here we can draw a very clear conclusion The Great Will does not know what is happening in the lands between and the Elden Beast acts as a guard dog, the reason why it punishes Marika/Radagon is because she broke the Ring and the reason why it attacks you is because you broke the door and you try to take the Ring without permission.
The high priest hat depicts Metyr holding up a black hole, and says "The circular design at the top represents the Greater Will and its lightless abyss" so i guess the greater will is a black hole that spawns fingers? idk
it seems more like Metyr just spawns new fingers from wounds on her skin, you can see small ruptures all over the body. The belly area happens to be the largest.
I like how Fromsoft approaches Cosmic Horror. They don't rely only on the tentacles and stuff. Even the cosmic entities that we never get to see in the game already gives a sense of something powerful and beyond comprehension When i see most drawings on the internet of people trying to portrait the cosmic characters of Lovecraft,they focus too much on tentacles and trying to make them look "angry" and that straight up takes away all the sense of mystery and unknowability...they feel flat
They definitely focus too much on the tentacles still, just cuz they use fingers, or black holes, or goopy slugs with ravioli for a face, doesn’t mean they’re doing anything better than those people you speak of, they just make it look different
Is not because they use it but how they use it. Amydala or Ebrietas have tentacles but they surpass exactly because Fromsoft thinks outside of the box and knows how to apply Cosmic Horror to their characters. Like i said,even just the concept of the Greater Will already brings a feeling of the Unkown and Alien that the other artists never accomplished for me
Makes sense if you think about it. In lore the greater will is the creator of all life (Hyetta says this), and the developers created all life in the game. Funny thought that the greater will is just Miyazaki himself, only he would be able to create a daughter that looks like this
When entering that Arena and seeing that thing + the very space ambient Soundtrack, it feels like entering some secret back room that you weren’t supposed to even enter or see at all. It’s like those out of bound areas in games you can enter using mods or cheats, where there is some hidden or cryptic ass shit going on that was intentionally put there but was scrapped and just left. Which perfectly also, sums up Metyr’s lore kinda cause that’s pretty much what happened to her. God from-soft is so good, at cosmic horror.
Since you get a staff from her Remembrance that lets you cast both sorceries and incantations with it it wouldn't be too surprising for her to be able to cast both types of magic herself. Ties in with the helix motif too along with the form of her tailfingers. Also an interesting implication that sorceries and incantations come from the same place which is a theme found in Dark Souls as well.
The helix appears both on her head and her torso ( a symbol of her divinity, just like Elden Beast's sword and Marika's hair) She actualy does have an eye! Wow! And it comes four clover leaf shaped, which is a very interesting find. Also the fingerprint patterns in her head are simply astounding, what a beautiful creature!
I never noticed how much her main arms are just fingers that twist until two pairs of two fingers emerge out of the fingertips. Also, it's surprising that her kowtow slam attack seems to have 7 branches, but they're also twisted and distorted rather than being symmetrical.
I saw a theory that said Metyr was attacked by the Nox using the fingerslayer blade (read its item description) and that is why Metyr is only capable of giving birth to finger creepers now, as opposed to the regular two finger variants. That's why her birthing canal is covered in blood and seemingly failed births (<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="131">2:11</a>) are stuck in her.
Future generations will learn. They will know the foolishness of the sneering sorcerers who ridiculed this theory, little realizing that it was in fact a discovery worthy of a new conspectus of the academy.
The depths of your foolishness!!!If you had even a sliver of the intellegence of an outer god you would appreciate her as the mona lisa of all creation.@@yvngboygv
@@yvngboygv The beauty of the grotesque is a thing. Not necessarily saying I think Metyr is beautiful, just pointing out that there's a precedent for the concept.
i dont like how some people said the bosses design is lazy and just another finger enemy, This is **THEEE** finger enemy, it is weird, grotseque and eldritch, this is the kind of thing you would find hiding inside of a black hole
when people call the DLC boss design "lazy" they're referring to reused concepts like Relanna/Pontiff or MiqDahn/Twin Princes. metyr's design isn't lazy, the closest thing you could compare it to is something from Bloodborne maybe
@metalsludge8205 if they call reused boss concepts lazy they're still wrong. They don't reuse assets with the bosses so it's hard to imagine they would be saving much time when they do that. Why can't people just say they disagree with a creative decision without being reductive about it
@@metalsludge8205 You are replying to a guy who claims to have seen people say that about Metyr. What are you trying to achieve here, change reality ? Make your opinion the only opinion ? Gtfo mate.
I wonder if, since beastmen were granted five fingers, fingers in Elden Ring didn’t evolve to allow for grabbing things but are rather antennas to the greater will that beasts and humans came to use them to grab things as a secondary purpose or byproduct. It would explain why creatures made entirely of fingers run around as hostile, independent antennas or why fingers grow like trees in their ruins. Fingers aren’t meant to grow out or evolve naturally and humans were just granted them as small, inefficient antennas to communicate with the greater
Seeing all the smaller fingers bursting out across Metyr’s body makes me think of tumours, particularly the ones ripping through the skin. Especially that gaping wound in her chest(?) from which the Fingercreepers are birthed - you can see nascent ones embedded in the surrounding flesh. Wonder if something went wrong inside of her, and that’s why she can’t create proper Two Fingers any longer. A bizarre design, at any rate.
The amount of references from space and the cosmos is sooooooooo cool. She’s like a big giant satellite… but she can’t really contact who she’s supposed to be contacting… I wonder what other beings are out there and what they look like? Probably kinda scary looking
someone people think the greater will is a star or something born from a supernova. Elden beast in the files is called A Nebula dragon so stuff like that kinda helps paint a picture
The sphere above her tail is supposed to represent the greater will. Her creator is literally the unfathomable darkness between the stars. She is supposed to be quite unknowable.
Her theme really sounds like the main theme of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, a classic alien movie. These notes were used to communicate with the aliens, perhaps it’s because Metyr is like a cosmic radio tower?
The arena looks like what you see under the waves of an ocean. That is cool. The weird tubes on the ceiling look like marine organisms those that live in coral tube worms I believe.
I still can’t believe that we pretty much fight the mother of every two fingers in the word of Elden ring. Like, it’s in her name, but the fact that this side quest pushes us to slay not only a god, but one that was directly in contact with the greater will at some point. It’s so cool! Design wise, I can’t decide whether or not the belly wound is intended to look like a cesarean section or not, although considering that she’s “broken” and can only create finger creepers now might make that much more likely. Also the fact that Fromsoft used actual black hole sounds and galactic phenomenons for the design is wicked. I especially love the pulsar beam, although the microcosms and black hole sounds in the music are a close second and third
I never noticed that she doesn’t have thumbs, in fact none of her fingers seem to be thumbs, I wonder if that means anything. (Unless her head is a thumb, it does sort of look like one).
Here's some lore: A four-toed fowl's foot. Material used for crafting items. In the Lands Between, having three digits is seen as a bad omen. As such, the four-toed fowl's foot is a gift of great luck indeed. Cinquedea dagger: The design celebrates a beast's five fingers, symbolic of the intelligence once granted upon their kind. Well, Metyr is pretty intelligent, she uses int and faith, and once communicated with the Greater Will, i guess 4 fingers just shows that she's imperfect and broken.
Thumbs separate man from animal, they allow our tool use and advanced manipulation of objects. The lack of thumbs is probably referencing how shes not the one in charge The 3 fingers however has a thumb, take from that what you will
anyone lese notice that her hands are 2 sets of Two Fingers sandwiched together? you can even see a line down her hands where the "seam" of their fusing together is
The Greater Will is the black hole stellar remnant from a supernova. The star was called the One Great, but then it detonated, a great rupture across the skies. We are all children of the Greater Will, stardust. But the nebula did not just create us and our world, it also gave birth to Metyr and the Elden Beast (game code name for Elden Beast is NebulaDragon).
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="165">2:45</a> WAIT SHE MAKES NOISES??? How I never knew or notice this?? Also it sorta reminds me of whale songs in a way. Metyr is so fuckin cool
The relationship between Elden Beast's arena and Metyr's arena have some interesting dichotomy between the two. Elden Beast's arena shows the Erdtrees growing up into the sky, with bright lights and a sunrise over on the horizon. Meanwhile Metyr's feature fleshy stalks that look like sound channels for Metyr to speak into, and it looks dark and abandoned, with finger-like growths sprouting from the shallow waters. I've never been this fascinated over a boss design since Ebrietas.
eye designs have a lot of significance in elden ring and it kinda struck me that this character has an eye design completely unique, a bizarre pupil and a pretty unique and disturbing red iris.
"Tell the Two Fingers, That Ranni the Witch cometh, to rend thy flesh. With a fateful wound, ne'er to heal." - Ranni You can see original wound in Metyr, where she has been cut with Fingerslaying Blade, maiming her and rendering her unable to hear messages from Greater Will. This is original sin and breaking of the world order. Numen/Nox tried to kill daughter of the Greater Will. No wonder why they drew ire of GW and fled to live underground.
That is an interesting theory, although the wound in question could also just be what she births fingers through since we see tiny fingers + small fingercreepers fly out of her whenever she performs attacks that utilise the wound.
That's to Ranni's Two Fingers no? Not Metyr? I think the uh.. "birth organ" that she has is simply reminiscent of the female birthing organ in a grotesque finger-y way. The Two Fingers could not commune properly with the Greater Will when the Elden Ring was shattered. Not to mention it wouldn't connect timeline-wise given Metyr was before Elden Beast.
@@gunsevenwhillans420I would guess she originally birthed 2 fingers then after her "Womb" was torn by the fingers slayer blade she can only birth the abhorrent finger creepers.
@@gunsevenwhillans420 attacking her in the spot she births the messengers of the GW makes sense though if they where trying to resist the GW. also doesn't mean they where successful since they clearly weren't if Metyr can still birth...
Imagine being in that endless expanse of blue, and hearing those noises Metyr makes. That shit would be absolutely horrifying. Those fluting "clicks" echoing through the enless landscape of water and tubes? Too damn cool.
My favorite part is the fact her pose during the phase 2 AoE's where she flies in the air seem to evoke the image of eastern Mudras. Even in her idling the tail's imagery in of itself feels like the index and middle finger in a Mudra pose. The spread of the crawling fingers in phase 2 aoe's where she floats takes that to a hundred.
I love the whole celestial vibe this boss has, her area looks cool, the design is out of this world, and I love how her second phase ost is literally sounds of a black hole 😊🦊
In a sense, she reminds me of Kos, or some say Kosm, from Bloodborne. The way their bodies are long, there's fingers/spikes jutting out of them, long arms, the aquatic ambience, them being mothers.
Ironically enough her lack of thumbs indicates a lack of intelligence as in elden ring five fingers(thumb included) are a simbol/blessing/mark of intelligence, as the beastmen were given their fifth finger as a gift of intelligence. This means that either metyr was abandoned by the greater will for not being smart enough or that the greater will intentionally gave metyr a low intelligence(this has curious implications btw).
haven't seen anyone else point this out - despite the abundance of fingers all over her body, her hands only have 4 fingers each. in Elden Ring lore's sentience is denoted by having 5 fingers, which means Metyr is vacuous in a sense.
The tarnished at a job interview: Interviewer: "so it says here you can "tank" a dying neutron star? Tarnished: "and I get right back to work" Interviewer: "we'll let you know" 😒
She has only four fingers on her hands... if we follow the logic that everything that has five fingers in elden ring world is granted intelligence, and all that has them less - is primitive, we can think that she does not have levels of intelligence and self-consciousness that elden beast or astel has. She is like their lower ancestor. I also love that elden ring has that bloodborne' theme of "greater godly creatures must look like sea animals or insects". Metyr kinda reminds me of elden beast when she's fully stretched, he has fins and swims in the water, and she looks like an arthropod to me, tbh. Even the school of graven mages kinda resembles those primitive organisms that are just a colony of other single-celled organisms. Whole cosmos has that sea theme going on
This was an interesting boss fight I'd say pretty crazy but this boss looks like something outta Bloodborne, actually this whole dlc does maybe that means something?
Man, Elden Ring's bits about cosmic horror are my favorite part of the lore. I really wish From and Miyazaki do another horror focused game in the future.
Her noises and the black hole sounds are by far the most sinister thing in the game. Now I understand why Ranni didn’t want to be an Empyrean controller by the Two Fingers and the Greater Will...
