Beth against Borgov was a great final game but Borgov made some big mistakes - Netflix asked me to break it down so here it is! #TheQueensGambit #MagnusCarlsen #chess
@@EGarrett01 no they werent lmfaoooo, the games were ANALYSED BY KASPAROV, however kasparov didnt make the games BUT the games were actually famous games by grandmasters replayed here but not kasparov for sure as levy explained. They got kasparov to check the validity.
@@EGarrett01 bro if u search the games on queens gambit it literally says they are real games played by grandmasters not just kasparov i mean i dont think kasparov played any games in queens gambit.
@@westerling8436 It's almost like you are sarcastic at a simple positive assertion given by Kwigs to the production quality of the show having authentic chess moves replicating real matches. Or just being ignorant, now that I think about it, it seems your both. IKR
the majority of people probably really didn't know who magnus was, since queen's gambit was a lot of people's first intro into chess. but magnus is definitely a cool dude. there's a vid of him playing bullet at a college bar and taking the time to compliment the other kid's playing 😎😎
Yes... a fictional character that didn't play as any chess player has ever played that got him in that position in the first place... Yes, very accurate...
@@jdderew1 Considering the game was created by Kasparov, I think it's not as bad lol It has to find the balance of being real enough, without actually having the filler moves of real games, so if you have a problem with it take to Garry.
I dont know u but I reeeeally really hate players like u, why do u even do that man. Everytime I got spamed with draw offers when he is left with -13 material. Accept your loss and learn from it, stop being a child.
No wonder Magnus himself was interested in the chess sequences of this series. I heard Kasparov helped them design those games. It feels like we've been served a treat we are not capable of fully appreciating. Still feels great
@Badr4sta I know, I just hope he's going to keep it about the racing and not all the woke crap he's been into lately. Don't have anything against the guy and I'mm sure he couldn't care less, I'm just not into his style.
@@drewjenkins2318 And thank goodness they actually made the effort. I mean, imagine if movies involving any type of coding or hacking tried half as hard?
I think you also need to account for how comfortable Magnus is as a player. He cannot see everything about every situation, but he is remarkable to see a position and be positive that the position contains no unknowns. There are many examples where he is surprised that he is the only person in the world to sees something "obvious" in a position. I think his rating would be even higher if he understood the blind spots of others more.
Also when he mentioned that the chess board was in her head and not on the ceiling.. I really thought she was visually seeing the board. I'm such an idiot!
@@ThatAboutDoesIt given when she first moved into the house with her adopted parents, she needed to rip a hole in the fabric over the top of the board so she could see the ceiling and thus the chessboard... I think she actually was supposed to be seeing things visually on the ceiling. The fabric obscured her view - so she ripped it - a pretty unambiguous sign that she was visualising things literally, not metaphorically.
Magnus's commentary combined with Anya Taylor Joy's world-class acting talent make it seem as though Magnus is commentating on a real-life tournament and not a television show. Despite not being a chess player herself, Anya captures perfectly all the emotions that a world-champion-to-be would be experiencing in such a scenario. Beautiful.
@@koifish528 he spoke facts. And that's why he was defamed. That clan of devils in the guise of a religious people have been kicked out of over 100 places over 2000 years and when a certain Austrian saved Germany from their clutches, they started another world war using international influence and after they destroyed Germany, they created a hoax that has stopped anyone ever questioning them again.
I took borgov’s smile as him being proud of her beating him, and happy that he finally met an opponent worthy of becoming a world champion! I thought that was a beautiful moment.
Me: "Wow Borgov handled his loss very well, props to him" Magnus: "Borgov shouldn't smile, he should be ashamed at the way he conducted the end of this game." Me: "oh"
That's just Magnus' opinion. But frankly I think he's a bit too into it, winning and losing and taking it well isn't exclusive to any sport, it goes for anything in life.
@@kallekallessons "taking it well" is subjective. It's childish and pointless to be angry at your opponent but being angry at yourself can make you improve.
Nah I think they played it in a way that makes sense. They had all the lines played out for her to win, but he chose one they had not considered which left her uncertain. Though she is better in this situation, he has already demolished her twice before and she is afraid that he sees something they did not. If not for her “superpower analysis” she may have accept the draw out of fear.
I love when a person at the top of a certain field can surrender themselves to fiction and embrace the experience as reality. It's a beautiful thing that reveals their true love for the field they specialize in.
taylor joy and beth harmon, translating it to the real world, helped more to real Carles than Carlsen itself to the Serie. After this serie Chess went up and the tournamens surely did increase their prizes. I understand your position but it is not like "Magnus is supporting the serie", for me it is like "Serie is supporting chess and in consecuence to Magnus too". Do you get my point?
@@skallittor5478 I don't even know if your point was typed in English. So no, I don't understand any point you were trying to make. But what's important is that you made yourself feel smart
As a professional player, Magnus could have added that the game in the movie was based on a real game played between Vasily Ivanchuk and Patrick Wolff, Biel Interzonal, 1993, where Beth improved with 37 Ne6
It boggles my brain that the greatest chess player on the planet takes the time to help us understand this remarkable film series. Fantastic and so appreciated.
Chess is incredibly boring and he doesn't even want to be the champion anymore. He's been doing this for such a long time, he probably just wants to make money off of it and retire, and I say good on him. No one has even come close to how good he is.
@@trendybistro not really true, some players have come fairly close. both WC matches with Karjakin and Caruana were drawn in the classical portion (12 games each - 12 draws with Caruana, 1 win 1 loss and 10 draws against Karjakin), he beated them on rapid tiebreaks. don't take my word for it though - it's Carlsen himself who said (in 2018) that "in classical chess he [Caruana] has at this point just as much right as I to call himself the best in the world". besides, Carlsen forfeited the WC match, but he intends to keep on playing professionally / competitively, clearly he's not ready to abandon the "incredibly boring" chess just yet.
@@trendybistro he wasn't bored... it was just because he was a champion he had to prepare for a long period to defend his title and restrict himself from playing other tourments..and it was alot of stress and "boring" since it was not worth for him to play against one person after a long period... he is still playing in tournaments... chess is intense.. play blitz if you feel bore.
@@trendybistro "Chess is incredibly boring" You do know there's a neat little thing called opinions right? Even if you think chess is boring it's not like others are gonna think the same. Also he's not tryna make money off of it, cause if he was he would've had his twitch subs on. He's just having fun with it
I really loved how the people who worked on The Queen's Gambit really tried to make it as accurate as possible so I am glad that Magnus Carlsen is analyzing it.
As an amateur player and lover of chess I was enchanted and enthralled by The Queens Gambit not knowing how things would go was a huge part of it's charm. Delighted to find out that a brilliant chess mind felt the same. congratulations to the writers actors and producers, and thanks Magnus for sharing so candidly.
So glad to see someone so humble and generous be the world champion. I love this guy, he has such a happy attitude and i always see him being respectful when he plays. What an interesting perspective to see what the world champ thinks. Thanks for making this Magnus!
What made you say he's humble? Genuinely curious, bc I've seen lots of his interview, funny guy, but I definitely wouldn't use the word humble to describe him. Thanks, if you'll answer
@@skittles2 He is respectful, honest, praising his opponents when they do well. And in the clips where he can seem cocky he is lowkey being funny while at the same time being honest. He is in fact much better than everyone else
I like how he did his analysis but I wish he had a board to show the game instead of just the clips from the series because it was hard for me, a bad player, to understand :)
@@BedroomPianist Well, that game was in 1968 - even if Netflix does a sequel, and they meet again, maybe in 1970 or so, keep in mind that Carlsen was only born in 1990.
I know chess has billions of possible outcomes and combinations, but to have "Lot's of game segments I've never seen before..." coming from a guy who memorized pretty much all of the significant moves from probably all of the most significant chess games ever played is just.... Wow... AND at the same time making the game actually interesting to analyze, not only for amateurs, but for GMs as well...
The problem with chess at this level is that there are not really not many positions possible, most players play always the best/2nd best position on every move, so in the long run it's not that hard to learn the patterns. (for them of course, for mere mortals it is not) and since most have a repertoire they stick with, they start to learn every outcome since almost every time people will play the best move to answer his, and if they don't he will punish, that's why so many games end in draw at classic, with time to think the game is basically a matter of who wants to risk playing something unusual vs sticking to the end in the main line of that variation and drawing.
@@marcosc9130 chess PATTERNS are not the same thing as concrete move sequences. there are thousands and thousands of ways in which every pattern can occur, and of course these patterns are usually combined, so an experienced player will break a given position down into several discernible patterns. that's what makes blindfold chess possible. that's more or less how our brains (and in modern times, artificial inteligence) are able to quickly recognize and decipher hand writing, for instance - by extracting the crucial patterns out of the overall complexity. for someone like Kaspar Hauser, who's illiterate and never learned to read and write, it would be nothing short of magic.
Imo, you can't say it's not. It's part of the series. All details in all films should be open to interpretation and critical observation as the viewer likes. The point of that scene may not strictly be about the chess, but you can't say that it completely isn't.
It says something about the attention to detail in the series when our times greatest champ describes the chess in the series as beautiful and exciting. Bravo :)
*Me:* Borgov is smiling, it looks like he's having fun with it. *Magnus:* Borgov shouldn't smile, he should be ashamed at the way he conducted the end of this game. *Me:* Why is Borgov smiling after that performance?
@Anna Svidler There are situations where great chess players smiled after a loss but Magnus is right not after offering a joke of a draw. (which I never would've realized just watching the show without knowing the analysis and having the board)
I think he smiled because there was a part of him that was relieved to be removed from a cog in the Soviet machine as the world's most invincible chess player
This video is also being posted in official Netflix accounts. So unfurtionally there are a lot of people who watched the show, but who don't know who he is yet.
Well, this 2020 has brought a lot more of attention to chess, there's a lot of new people who don't know too much about chess, I'm pretty sure They'll be Impressed Carlsen's level
I very much enjoyed your commentary on this Magnus! For us "average chess players" trying to get better, it means alot to hear from a world champion that this series is on point with high level real life chess scenarios. Thanks!
watching you explain the game makes me almost want to cry, i never realized they tried to coordinate the chess moves and tell a beautiful story at the same time...
@@SuperLari1234 dont really see whats the point of another season. They basically did everything they could in one season from her childhood to starting her career to her mum dying to depression to you know the end winning it all. All you can do is her winning more or just doing the same thing again with her breaking down.
@@SuperLari1234 What do you mean, why? Because it is, dude. That's probably what was signed off on. Besides, the story ended in a perfect place. Beth Harmon's arc as a character is complete. Anything else would be cyclic and unnecessary. Perhaps Netflix could experiment with a completely new chess IP. Maybe a biopic on a player such as Paul Morphy, and his famous 1858 trip to Europe? But the Queen's Gambit is not a series that needs a continuation.
He can play the best chess in the world and also explain and make interesting to us a made-for-tv chess game. . He can bring it down to our level. That’s pretty shocking to me. Also shocking is the fact that the writers of the tv show were able to create chess games for the show that are interesting to him.
That's because they hired Kasparov to do it for them, they would go for absurd games as always, but Kasparov told them not to and personally helped create games that were both real enough, but not like stupid long and boring like a real championship match. Specially because back then games were a little more wild, since players didn't train with 3000 rating Engine since they are kids. Some people say they should have used real matches, but for the average person watching a game with 180 moves with a lot of depth is not feasible, imagine fitting 10% of the reason why the Najdorf is played that way. Or worse, translating the rather uninteresting "Queen's Gambit", very safe, very positional and making it exciting.
@@marcosc9130 "they would go for absurd games as always, but Kasparov told them not to" The fact that they hired Kasparov is by itself evidence that they DIDN'T want to go for absurd games, and that decision must have been made BEFORE he could tell them that (since he hadn't been hired yet). by the way it was Kasparov + Pandolfini, if i remember correctly. "Some people say they should have used real matches, but for the average person watching a game with 180 moves with a lot of depth is not feasible" i think you mean real games (not matches), and no, actual games aren't typically 180 moves long either. the actual game it was based on was a 72 moves draw (between Ivanchuk and Wolff), which was spiced up and converted into a 53 moves win, arguably adding MORE depth to it, as the actual game avoided complexities, exchanged most pieces and this was exactly why it took longer and ended in a draw. and the 72 moves that original game lasted - while far from 180 - was still pretty long by tournament standards. as evidenced by the fact that for Ivanchuk was actually the 2nd longest game (out of 13) he played in that tournament, and for Wolff the longest one. so whatever speaks against using real life games in TV, it's not their length as you imply. not to mention there's obviously no reason to show every single move on the screen - even a game consisting of 100+ moves could still be narrowed down to just the interesting parts for cinematic purposes.
@@theseeker3073 not just in Europe, I don't understand why the U.S thinks speaking a second language is amazing and a sign of intelligence or something. proper English with punctuations and being grammatically correct is the hardest thing for me.
I’m a 64 year old very amateur chess player, and a big fan of you. All I can tell someone like you is that love and kindness, being grateful, and working hard are what matter in life, and based on interviews I’ve seen of you, you already know that too. So, I’m an even bigger fan.
wow, the Champ actually didn't know what he's talking about for a second. "She could never lose...". Put ME in her spot at that moment, and I promise you, I will find the way to lose
I like the looking up bit. Its a super power for her. And the resoluteness with which she moves that piece when she returns from seeing all the possible next moves visibly shakes her opponent. And then the fact she spends no time thinking about her next moves and just does it also bothers him. As if he knows she just saw all these moves hes making and shes just playing out a forgone conclusion.
That's such a great video! It's like watching Mozart explaining a song and his feelings about it. I definitely gonna start with chess again, once i have time. I wish you all the best, thank you for sharing this video!
Thank you Magnus. I was a teen when Bobby Fischer defeated Boris Spaskey. In America, that really drove the popularity of chess up for the first time in almost a century. The Queen's Gambit really pushed chess up in the consciousness of Americans again. I had read that the games in the series were pretty realistic, but it is nice for the greatest current player in the world to analyze them. My only quibble is that it is hard to see all the moves in sequence, since this is a drama that focuses more on the personalities. When you were analyzing the games, it would have been helpful to put a little game board in the corner so we could better follow what you were talking about. In order to follow you, I had to slow down the sequences, stop them, and rewind a few times and have a board of my own set up.
Great video I loved it, however I think if you made a video like this again, it would be useful to have the game with the current position displayed in the upper corner throughout the conversation. But great idea to make this video regardless!
Thank you sharing your experience with the series. I've been watching your games for quit awhile so when this series came out I was very happy to see it. It's really a thrill to watch you play chess. Thank you.
Thank you, Magnus. It's great to hear the perspective of someone who's actually been in a high-stress world championship. I enjoyed your commentary so much!
Thanks for your interesting commentary on the series and this final match in particular. I know little about chess, but I can still enjoy your analysis. And it's a big compliment to the "Queen's Gambit" series that you think so highly of how they handled the chess matches.
Queens gambit is really cool. Im glad they took the time to show the game in a way that in could actually be analyzed, even if it's based on a real game or something.
It is very satisfying that the chess moves seem to make narrative sense to Magnus in terms of the narrative of the show - which I feel they did from his comments. Thank you for taking the time to review this.
his response to this fictional series and its attention to detail in the actual games is quite fascinating and shows the preparation that went into it.
Magnus Carlsen probably thinks everybody have a chessboard in their head as he does so why bother editing video and adding another lol (no offence, great video anyway).
Great job Magnus. I'm a fan now. I love the way you are able to convert the complex chess calculating into personal terms. This is...exceptional, in ADDITION to your exceptional giftedness at the calculations themselves. Not only do you play at such a high level, you COMMENT at a very high level. I don't know if the game has ever seen someone who can do both of these things so well.
I really love your analysis because it kind of helps understand the characters better especially one like Borgov who you don't really get any in-depth scenes with.
I saw you in Harvard playing blind against 10 opponents... I must say this is one of the most impressive thing I watched in my life. You are the living proof of the infinite capabilities of human brain. Thank you very much.
