Mahler: 6. Sinfonie ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Andrés Orozco-Estrada 

Stephen Golden : hr engineers have been recording the orchestra in superb fashion since I lived there during the 80s. It was astonishing to hear the result broadcast. The acoustics of the hall must be certainly crucial. Alte Oper is a great venue.

I was hoping a jack in the box would pop out when he hit that box so hard.

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thank you, we're all here for the hammer. it was a real nice thwack too. Second hammer: 1:14:22 Third 'hammer': 1:24:26

The third hammer was ommited by Mahler and it used to be here: 1:24:50 and not where you linked to.

The second blow sounded much better. More metallic.

@@blintscav the hammer is the most tawdry aspect to this marvellous work in my opinion.

@@John-qj2xi because it was struck along with the gong

Agreed: the "loud yet dead (i.e. not resonant)" indication by Mahler has never been better followed. The gong simultaneously with the second hammer makes me feel as though the universe is being rent asunder. Truly a pity the third hammer was not included.

Just look at the face of the timpani player, he's really enjoying it!

Entendue pour la première fois en public au Théâtre des Champs-Elysées ( 1978), la version de l'orchestre symphonique de Londres sous la direction de C. Abbado s'est passée de tout marteau. Attentif à la façon dont on allait s'y prendre pour le remplacer, j'ai vu un percussionniste se déplacer, et utiliser une partie de l'estrade avec un effet tout aussi saisissant. Abbado, déjà rompu au répertoire malhérien, m'a ému ce soir-là. Je me souviens comment dès son entrée, après avoir recueilli les applaudissements saluant son arrivée, il s'est retourné tel un danseur pour attaquer aussitôt le 1er mouvement.

Cela dit, le Hr-Sinfonieorchester et son brillant chef colombien sont parfaits.

thanks you so much unnamed lmao

I know exactly your feelings.

The Adagietto of Mahler's Fifth Symphony was the music of his initial infatuation with Alma Schindler. I think that the Andante of his Sixth Symphony was the music of his early domestic bliss with her. He specifically identified the second theme of the 6th's first movement as his 'Alma theme' (3:04 - 5:05). She would remain his muse, dedicating his Eighth Symphony to her and then inscribing an impassioned plea to her on the manuscript at the end of the sketched last movement of his incomplete Tenth Symphony.

Yes, Huckleberry Finn! The music weeps a heartfelt sorrow, and my tears never fail to join in.

Reading this makes me tear up. It's so beautiful.

Seen u around

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@@mitcheljames7053 Thanks! lolol

Mema is from Spain, Dudamel from Venezuela and Orozco-Estrada from Colombia.

Perhaps one day we will do away with ethnicities and concentrate on artistic virtues.

Re you singling out Clara's temperament: I have a theory that hair long (and short) enough to bounce when you move makes people look more expressive and sensitive because it amplifies the visibility of their movements.

Nah man. It‘s the „i feel you bro“ face because conductor was annoyed out of his mind that this audience couldn‘t even wait a few seconds to disturb this music and the silence after the piece with the applause.

@@serendrixsan9191 no applause until the conductor turns. So easy.

Same here (self-isolating in Manchester in the UK)

Bayern too

And now you can also check out the digital concert hall of the Berliner Philharmoniker.

@@myg949 on atlantic coast in France too ! ;-) but the more painful for me is that I can't go this year in... "Bayern" and "Österreich", "meine lieblingsländer" ! ;-) I miss deeply Regensburg, München, Reit im Winkel, Nürnberg, Bad Reichenhall, Straubing, Berchtesgaden, Salzburg, Linz, Mürzzuschlag, Passau, Molding, Maiernigg and a lot of others loved places ! I just can listen to comforting me, Brahms, Beethoven, Mahler, Bruckner, Richard Strauss, Johann Strauss, Ziehrer.... :-)

In Irvine, Southern California. But I hardly feel locked down when I have so much glorious music to hear--and see!--via RU-vid.

It is truly magnificent. I am looking for a very particular performance. The first I heard and the one I loved most. It was the 100 year anniversary of the premiere, also played in Essen, Germany. Desperately trying to find it, no success yet.

I could have written exactly the same thing!

Alan Morrison: Yes! I have to agree. There is a superb Mahler tradition in Frankfurt. I heard them with Inbal in the 80s. Unforgettable

The start.

Right? This is one of the most spiritually generous conductors I have seen on the podium. Always connected with the orchestra and sending them accolades in the moment with glances and mouthed bravi. I love watching this orchestra perform.

I know, right? It's like my favorite Mahler Symphony changes every day :D

When what we really recognize as modern music was born.

Yes, he is. 😎🎹

Petrenko's is better

@@WritingontheWallIL How unworthy of you to publicly suggest such a thing.

He gone

He has to go home and sleep now.

he's probably got tacet al fine, his shift finished early xD

He went out of stage to play distant low bells and cow-bells)))

Ach was! Ehrlich?

You are absolutely right. That climax evokes a particular feeling that always gives me chills. Absolutely one of the most awe-inspiring moments ever composed in music.

@@nicolassanchez595 Gracias, would you say it compares to The Children of Sanchez by Chuck Mangione?

Honestly, I think this is one of the trivial passages in the Symphony. It leaves an aftertaste that I don't like, because actually this work goes in a completely different direction. This cloying passage probably only serves as a distraction and to establish a fall height for the following crash in the 4th movement.

@@Altonahh10 God willing, I pray that: (1) this annoying aftertaste leaves you with no permanent residue and (2) you never again are subjected to something so far beneath your superior aural aesthetics. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to share your luminous insights, however distressing it may have been to recall this 'trivial' passage from the Andante of Mahler's 6th Symphony.

Also 1:14:23

I am currently reading J. M. Fischers Mahler biography which says that electronic recording, albeit of lower quality, was very much available at the turn of the 20th century, that there are recordings of his contemporaries and that it is somewhat hard to explain why all we have in Mahler's case is testimony and his piano rolls.

Alejandro Benitez Barrera they ALWAYS loved him there!❤️

speedystriper agree 100%. The scherzo fits better with the first movement also.

This was the first recording I came across where the adagio came 2nd not 3rd. To my horror I looked on you-tube to find other examples and it looks like this trend is catching on. According to a Guardian website Mahler had intended the adagio to be placed 2nd but Alma Mahler and a 1963 transcription had placed it 3rd which is what I'm used to. I was trying to work out why I hate the adagio coming 2nd so much. Difficult to argue logically on something which is emotional and an artistic preference but I think the symphony emotional journey works far better if the adagio is 3rd. The scherzo supports the first movement. Its more bumptious, less depressing but still with a militaristic vibrancy. The adagio is sombre and increasing emotional leading splendidly to the cataclysmic finale. Emotionally its a consistent journey. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._6_(Mahler) provides a comprehensive history of the problem.

Agree adagio should be 3rd, scherzo 2nd.

Welp, unpopular opinion here. I'm so extremely attached to the Andante/Scherzo form that switching it ruins the whole experience for me. The glum Scherzo's coda leads perfectly into the first bars of the final movement and in my opinion sets the mood in a much more fitting fashion than the andante.

Apart from me totally agreeing wtih the original poster, why do 3 of the 5 posters to this comment call it an Adagio? It's an Andante...

My personal favorite is Bernstein's rendition of this symphony as recorded by the New York Philharmonic for the Bernstein Century series of albums by Sony Records.

Mine would be "Let It Be" - what's yours?

@@hansjuergenkohlhaas871 mahler 6. this very symphony.

Our abs and biceps be like STONKS though

Seems kind of unfair to Tchaikovsky, and perhaps Beethoven too...

@@EE-gg3xf no argument against what you said but his actual words were "at last theres only one 6th, despite the Pastoral (B 6.)" In a letter to anton webern i think

Berg may have been unfamiliar with Sibelius' Sixth of 1923 and he died in 1935 before Vaughan William's Sixth was premiered in 1948. The first two movements of Bruckner's Sixth, which Mahler premiered in Vienna in 1899, are top notch, too.

She's also in many (RU-vid) performances of the Chamber Orchestra Europe, because she's a great musician.

@@frankstein9982 And I love her .... as John Lennon wrote!

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