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"Mainstreaming, and the Mind of the Man-Child" - FGP #35 

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@PaxTubeChannel
@PaxTubeChannel Год назад
One of the best talks I’ve seen you give. Well said 👍🏻
@vaclavcervinka65
@vaclavcervinka65 Год назад
Nice to see you here!
@angrypixelhunter
@angrypixelhunter Год назад
Hey I like your videos, especially the one on the spanish civil war and the french revolution.
@RainbowDevourer
@RainbowDevourer Год назад
James Lindsay does one very useful thing though; He reads through the weird-ass papers like Genderqueer, Crip Discourses, Pedagogy of the Oppressed and other utterly batshit stuff which is influential on the left.
@MrPotatoesLatkie
@MrPotatoesLatkie 4 месяца назад
Which is valuable information to anyone who encounters such people in debate, and gives useful information to get to the basics of their believes. I've not encountered anyone else who does that. I don't have to be a fan of his world view to find his writings useful.
@No_Ghosts
@No_Ghosts Год назад
I was once in exactly James Lindsay's position. I even still have an intuitive feeling that the arc of progress "went wrong" in 2012 or whatever. Of course I understand on an intellectual level this is hogwash, but because of my upbringing it feels right. I was lucky enough to have someone I respect point out the flaws in my position, so I wasn't trapped their long. What got me over the hump was two things: 1. Understanding that the 00s or the 90s or whatever is a totally arbitrary point to stop the arc of progress. Logically if you are against 2016 you cannot fence sit on 2006, because 2006 inevitably leads to 2016. This was tough for me because of all the propaganda I was exposed to --- I really needed to separate myself from my inculcation into progressive society. 2. Understanding, for example, the Christian position on marriage. This made it obvious that something like gay "marriage" is not a libertarian policy, but an imposition on a cultural norm believed by the majority, and beyond that absolute non-sense, the same way the latest woke stuff is.
@asteroidalassassin6949
@asteroidalassassin6949 Год назад
This is a more left wing take in regards to boycotts, but companies should not be forgiven even if they revert back to being politically amoral. No one should ever buy from budlight again, and once they fall completely, we should switch to a new corporation to boycott.
@PauperPeccator
@PauperPeccator Год назад
Yes. These companies are not people, individual souls. If anything they’re vessels for evil, not unlike the nephlim, ‘too big to be destroyed, too big to fail’ and deserve absolutely No mercy whatsoever.
@BillWilsonBG
@BillWilsonBG Год назад
Bud Light is a sub brand of a sub brand of a company that already had control of half the market then was bought out by an even larger multinational corporation. Do you know that infamous graph of the food industry basically being 10 companies? Now imagine it was just two companies instead, Inbev controls over 600 brands, they are 40% of the US market, and 30% of the Global market, Molson Coors is 20% of the US market and only 5% globally. Almost anything on the shelf domestic or imported through the incestuous net of partnerships invariable has some sort of relation to Inbev. There is no conceivable "go broke" in this equation, even if we entertain the idea of Bud Light literally being unable to sell a single product again due to the negative association with the brand, the have 3 other extremely high volume products within that specific market segment that they could push advertising dollars and promotion into instead. The own 6/10 highest selling beers by volume in the country.
@torrasque0151
@torrasque0151 Год назад
@@BillWilsonBG Ice cold blackpill.
@asteroidalassassin6949
@asteroidalassassin6949 Год назад
@@BillWilsonBG Easier answer: just don't buy beer. It's Haram.
@BillWilsonBG
@BillWilsonBG Год назад
@@asteroidalassassin6949 Dabbing on us infidels yet again, you can't keep getting away with it!
@distributistsshrekvideo
@distributistsshrekvideo Год назад
I struggle with this. What is my people? I know who my family is, but my land has suffered such levels of inmigration that the original people who would have been the sole inhabitants a century ago make up about 30% of the stock and decreasing, and I have good relationships with people from all places. I don't like the path the church is taking either, for the most part.
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
I don’t have a people yet. I am a nomad.
@watariovids1645
@watariovids1645 Год назад
Even if you have a people it's hard if you have never had any real connection to them. I should theoretically be able to go to Appalachia and be amongst the very homogenous Angloid Hill Billys who live there as that's most of my extended family. But having never lived there and having a nomadic life that's taken me all over ultimately there isn't any real connection and I would be an outsider just as much there as anywhere else (if not more so because its not a transient place). So what does that leave you with? It leaves you with the place you live now and trying to make organic connections there. That's the big issue is having that type of overbearing all encompassing group can only come about organically, you can't stitch a volk together through will alone it needs to accrete over time. We had untold generations of effort towards this undone since the postwar war area, it sucks but we just need to work through it.
@cyberninjazero5659
@cyberninjazero5659 Год назад
​@@TheDistributist Dave you better than anyone should know that Nomads are often Tribal peoples. You aren't a Nomad good man you're an exile. An exile from Babylon but still an exile
@deathdog1392
@deathdog1392 Год назад
This just sounds like blackpilling.
@Kwisatz-Chaderach
@Kwisatz-Chaderach Год назад
​@@TheDistributistExpat in your own country. I'm there dude.
@eldenlean5221
@eldenlean5221 Год назад
On the topic of someone stumbling upon Aquinas and discovering their faith, believe it or not, thats exactly what happened with Edward Faser. A philosophy professor who had to cover Aquinas and the scholastics on one of his classes, was looking for a way to make it more engaging than the course he himself took back when he was a student. Upon looking deeper into the primary sources, he realized the way its covered at university didnt do it justice. At first he thought it was merely underrated. Then he thought it was a pretty solid proof, and finally he realized that it was correct and yet to be refuted on its terms; it had merely been dismissed, by underhanded academic tactics. Like bastardizing the premise, thus making the proof invalid. Hes done amazing work in making Aquinas more compatible with modern language, and his lecture on the immateriality of the mind is one of the best Ive seen.
@AnonNorwegianPartiot
@AnonNorwegianPartiot Год назад
I have to disagree with you that nobody ever comes to a faith in God or Christianity through arguments and evidence. Just consider for a moment, does anyone ever leave Christianity because of arguments or evidence? Would you deny that many people who have engaged with atheists and found themselves without any good responses, have left the faith unwillingly? If so, why would the case not be the same with Christianity? Did not C.S. Lewis come to faith in Christ due to arguments and evidence? What about Antony Flew, who though not becoming a Christian, did admit that there had to be a God, after all the years of being an atheist? I do not believe that apologetics and arguments for God are irrelevant to belief in many people. However, I do accept that most people, even if they are confronted with good evidence for faith, will not accept them. What I am suggesting is that arguments and evidence does play a role and that they are not unrelated to belief.
@gethimrock
@gethimrock Год назад
Yeah I was a bit hesitant on that point as well. I think maybe the important thing is that there is a body and soul component to religion. So you can read Aquinas or Garrigou Lagrange and realize that classical theism is surely correct, but you must actually take part in the sacraments with your body to be fully into the religion. That is why Jesus instituted the Eucharist after all. But I agree I think apologetics will have a massive role going forward and it’s why places like the Thomistic Institute are growing so much
@evan7391
@evan7391 Год назад
I think he was exaggerating there. He meant the average Christian grew up Christian and the average Atheist grew up Atheist. I came to Christianity through evidence and philosophy, but I know most people just grew up with the faith (which I think is fine).
@skylinefever
@skylinefever 6 месяцев назад
​@@evan7391I thought the average atheist grew up being raised by the crappiest types of Christian.
@cmcapps1963
@cmcapps1963 5 месяцев назад
It was also true of me. I'm not denying the role of the Holy Spirit, but I came to faith through studying the arguments. Two things I've found: 1. I'm not afraid of hard questions. My faith was "pretested" so I don't get uncomfortable around objections to Christianity. 2. My emotions towards God or doctrine don't sway me. I have moments of pain and struggled with bitterness towards God in times of tragedy before, but that affects my belief in His existence precisely like having a painful fall affects my belief in gravity: not one bit.
@TempleOfKnife
@TempleOfKnife Год назад
The least talked about signal of status is the cleanliness/orderliness of your house. Lawns are out, but high status individuals always keep a cohesive design theme and tidy home.
@xjmg007
@xjmg007 Год назад
I keep my lawn edged better than a barber in Harlem. I notice lawns, they are a preview of the interior.
@RecoveringMidwit
@RecoveringMidwit Год назад
This is 100% true and i suspect many of our young Aspy Dissident Right men do not value this nor practice it
@JohnDoe-yk3ji
@JohnDoe-yk3ji Год назад
Damn right I don't, I'd do it if I had a missus to nag me, but otherwise, I'm just gonna be about my routines.
@baw5xc333
@baw5xc333 Год назад
Does anyone think meticulous lawn care is somewhat bugman behavior? I get keeping up a clean yard, but it seems materialistic to obsess about a perfectly manicured lawn.
@JohnDoe-yk3ji
@JohnDoe-yk3ji Год назад
@@baw5xc333 I definitely think that. Like my mum just loves the mower, and any time she turns it on, neighbours will also mow.
@David-qm2qj
@David-qm2qj Год назад
Dave your livestreams are a positive and refreshing experience in the fake digital world. I hope you can keep it up despite all other responsibilities.
@LivinInLuxury
@LivinInLuxury Год назад
23:27 reminds me of the Nick Land quote: “It goes without saying that no substantial residue of Marxian historicism remains in the 'communist' version ofthis posture. In fact, with economics and history comprehensively abandoned, all that survlves ot Marx is a psychological bundle of resentments and disgruntlements, reducible to the word 'capitalism' in its vague and negative employment: as the name for everything that hurts, taunts and disappoints.”
@roberttg3767
@roberttg3767 Год назад
Reduction of capitalism to a slew of pathologies and complex psychological maladies, completely different than Marxism as conceived by Marx
@yevsey169
@yevsey169 Год назад
The only value I found out of the conversation with Matt is how a clearly intelligent and thoughtful man can be so easily captured by ideological mind virus's, and how interesting it was that in such a long conversation he didn't say anything even moderately heterodox. And there was a few moments where I thought he was right. I am definitely glad the conversation didn't guy turn into a theological fight, but his position on the Nicean Creed was indicative of everything, how he couldn't actually bind himself to an dogma, and instead devolved to newspeak. I didn't mind listening to the conversation though. I wouldn't mind another conversation with him in a year, but with matt's comfort in newspeak, I'm really not sure how to get any value out of it. I would try to pin him down on this particular aspect if possible, but that does seem like the type of conversation that's could be personal enough to ought to be private.
@lewdchew
@lewdchew Год назад
Lindsay has shades of Thought Slime on his face.
@misterkefir
@misterkefir Год назад
They're making them in a factory somewhere..
@Plxlinixy
@Plxlinixy Год назад
@@misterkefir Yeah they're called Universities sadly.
@peenweinerstein9968
@peenweinerstein9968 Год назад
There it is… been trying to put my finger on it for a while
@jaypoole8056
@jaypoole8056 Год назад
Completely agree on the Boycotts. Seriously so many local, microbreweries it's ridiculous that we keep drinking queer beer. Support your local independent brewers and build your new civilization. The time to convince megacorps to change and just focus on selling a product is over...it was never going to happen. Stop buying global and start buying local. Hate globalism? Why are you funding it?
@BillWilsonBG
@BillWilsonBG Год назад
The problem is those are invariably most of those are even more GAE than the multinational corporations themselves. The craft beer culture is explicitly hating the Bud Light and by proxy it's consumer base and their culture worse than the AB-Inbev themselves, because at least notionally AB-Inbev needs their business. Most of these places are run by the embodiment of the soyjack meme, never mind all the dumb jokes and stupid reddit art used to market the stuff and even more explicitly support the group celebrated for the holy month of June. Never mind the logistical issues of people literally being unable to afford it, I'm not paying $18 for four pints of lager that tastes worse than stuff imported from Germany (in larger cans mind you), that literally costs at least $11 less, and even that is expensive for average people. What do they want for draught? $7 a pint, I literally can't afford to pay half a days wages for myself and one person to have 4 beers each and I make more than the average person. Maybe there are based breweries some place that aren't cringe and sell products that people can actually afford, but I've never seen it and there are like 20 near me. The best case scenario from this "boycott" would a rogue elite like Musk buying one of the few regional brewers around like Yuengling and try to increase distribution and production as much as possible within reason so there would actually be a option for at least a fair bit of the eastern seaboard be able get some money out of the GLOHOM system by giving them an option to buy a similar product at a similar price without actively supporting one of the two multinationals that hates them.
@torrasque0151
@torrasque0151 Год назад
@@BillWilsonBG Craft beer situation is almost identical with indie games vs boycotting woke AAA titles.
@misterkefir
@misterkefir Год назад
You're an intellectual masochist, Dave. Just admit it, bro. There's literally no other explanation why you constantly engage with these.. people. None. Admitting it will be the first step to curing this illness. You CAN get better Dave! I wish you the best of luck & God Bless! Thanks for the stream, as always.
@mouthofpower8492
@mouthofpower8492 Год назад
Based truthposter
@alexc4159
@alexc4159 Год назад
He seems to recognise that a lot. Its falling back on the step after the admission his falling on.
@deathdog1392
@deathdog1392 Год назад
Engaging with people that literally hate you is so counterproductive, it's a pure exercise in futility. IMO it really is holding Dave and other right wingers back.
@RecoveringMidwit
@RecoveringMidwit Год назад
@@deathdog1392 agree. You can’t criticize the “open marketplace of ideas” and then engage in those very processes.
@JasonSmith-eo2hu
@JasonSmith-eo2hu Год назад
Nah. You can engage with people and not have the goal to be to convince them or their audience in the marketplace of ideas like IDW types fantasize. Understanding their position by direct dialogue is not bad. You also can get them to go mask off for your own audience. Getting them to actually engage with you also can show just how poorly prepared they are to deal with the questions and challenges you bring up. I suppose it is a personal experience thing. But I know too many people that fled to or grew up in RW intellectual ghettos and found themselves just not inoculated for progressive arguments. Having really bad understanding of progressives as a result and generally just caught off guard when confronted by them. Christians are commonly called to be in the world but not of the world. I think it is a brilliant point they bear as they are to understand and interact with degeneracy and evil, but still guard their hearts and minds. Lending to a very well rounded and capable person that can understand how to build communities that can overcome those things. I have seen the effects of Christians that weren’t in the world. They come off as cringe and flounder at progressive heresies trying to subvert them. You can also see Christian of the world in the form of people like McManus.
@_Dovar_
@_Dovar_ Год назад
I think Your streams are much better unscripted, as it seems a lack of opportunity to over-prepare forces people to be concise, to find and present their point with simple words, and not too many, nor too few. I don't share Your vision of power struggle between a WEF-king and regional princes. I think we are in the second act now, and things can spiral out of control REALLY fast, for good or bad. We'll see how things go with the banks, CBDC, 2024 and the Third World War. Being Polish, I hope Your deep state won't manage to "false flag" my deep state into the Ukrainian War.
@zagreus4438
@zagreus4438 Год назад
How do you just talk off the cuff like this so well? You spit wisdom from every little analogy 10 a minute
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
Thanks
@newglof9558
@newglof9558 Год назад
The issue with street epistemology is that it's supposedly influenced by the Socratic method and Socratic dialogues, but is usually administered as interrogation. In Platonic dialogues, Socrates will invite his interlocutor to question his thought as well and give their thoughts, which is why they're dialogues. Street epistemologists aren't interested in that. I've literally been told by street epistemologists that I "wouldn't be a good candidate" for street epistemology since my demand that Socratic dialogues are actual dialogues (not interrogations) makes me a "bad faith" conversation partner, even though the street epistemologists are coming to the convo in bad faith to begin with. Pretty sure Boghossian coined the term and Lindsey was heavily involved with it as well. I have no respect for that movement.
@xenophon5354
@xenophon5354 Год назад
Don’t think I can answer the “who are my people?” question outside of my friends and family. That’s a big part of what drove my conversion to the right wing. The sad realization that my answer to that question was robbed from me by the rot of this age.
@Vingul
@Vingul Год назад
So you're American?
@xenophon5354
@xenophon5354 Год назад
@@Vingul Yes
@Vingul
@Vingul Год назад
@@xenophon5354 my sympathies 🙏
@Christiancatholic7
@Christiancatholic7 Год назад
@@xenophon5354 your friends and family literally are your people. When ‘your people’ got redefined to nations of millions is when the decline started.
@xenophon5354
@xenophon5354 Год назад
@@Christiancatholic7 Seems to me pre-modern peoples had a far more broad understanding of what constituted "their people" than just their friends and family. The tribe, the polis, the village, Christendom etc. If that's the criteria for the decline then surely we've been sliding downwards for 10000 years.
@ThatMans-anAnimal
@ThatMans-anAnimal Год назад
Dense and insightful, as usual.
@Richard-ul8yz
@Richard-ul8yz Год назад
Well it's dense I'll grant you that.
@Raycloud
@Raycloud Год назад
Talking to that guy was a total waste of time. I don't see how one sharpens their skills smacking their head against brick wall.
@jaredarmstrong7403
@jaredarmstrong7403 Год назад
Yeah, Dave can be a little odd with his conversations. A more productive conversation could have happened between him and Adam And Stitch, or even James Lindsay, but talking to the guy that doesn’t see wokeness as an existential problem is completely useless. I’m not a super fan or either of those guys, but at least they see the problem and want to fix it.
@AlejandroJMA
@AlejandroJMA Год назад
@@jaredarmstrong7403 Personally I take those conversations as a tool in understanding certain aspects of the left that we might not fully grasp. But they are largely useless when it comes to churning out something productive.
@_GOD_HAND_
@_GOD_HAND_ Год назад
@@jaredarmstrong7403 Lindsay won't talk to anyone in this space
@jaredarmstrong7403
@jaredarmstrong7403 Год назад
@@_GOD_HAND_ But he sees the problem or at least the manifestation of the problem. I think Dave could really challenge Lindsay and I think that it would be a better more productive conversation than me having to stop the stream every 5-15 mins to get a break from the King of the Bugmen.
@HessianSpaceMarine
@HessianSpaceMarine Год назад
A&S and Lindsay want to revert to a slightly earlier version of the disease we are currently toiling under. They think it has made a wrong turn, but that it is redeemable, not that it is going towards its own logical conclusion.
@donniedewitt9878
@donniedewitt9878 Год назад
Delightful stream. Everything from minute 50:00 to the 1:20:00 mark was an absolute banger. “You are communing with a living breathing intelligence from the other side to of history” is such a important message for the concept of tradition in itself. The problem with the likes of James Lindsay,Sam Harris, and the psa sitch types is fundamentally that their “faith” never came true. Much like the seventh day adventists or other apocalyptic oriented faiths they had a prophecy of neo liberal enlightenment and “the end of history” a end that never came for them
@elravager40k
@elravager40k Год назад
I just realized I was getting Benjamin Boyce mixed up with Ben Burgis. I was shocked by what I was hearing because Boyce seems to be a decent dude. Makes sense now 😅
@NyalBurns
@NyalBurns Год назад
Phenomenal. Your talks always blow me away.
@John-Brown
@John-Brown Год назад
James Lindsay has done a lot of good. I particularly like his conversations with Benjamin Boyce and Wokal Distance. And the hoax papers he did with Peter Boghossian and Helen Pluckrose were hysterical and helped many people understand the depths of insanity in the academy. Yes, Lindsay has been spurging out lately, and his criticisms must be addressed. But let's give him some credit for all the good he's done.
@nickporter574
@nickporter574 Год назад
Well said.
@stevem815
@stevem815 Год назад
At the risk of making the most ironic comment ever... it's 'sperging', derived from 'aspergers'. Sorry if that was just a typo.
@Ubu987
@Ubu987 Год назад
@@stevem815 A spurge is a succulent plant in the genus euphorbia noted for its hardiness and its toxic, milky sap. /sperg
@Nukestarmaster
@Nukestarmaster Год назад
James Lindsay is actually a really important figure, he has delved into the nasty quagmire of leftist literature and boiled it down in a way that is easily understandable to a layman. While many of the dogmatic beliefs that he covers may not be the individual beliefs of the average leftist progressive, they at least give an excuse for them to assuage their conscience. That said, he is completely incapable of giving a positive way forward, understanding his own deep set biases or grappling with the limitations of Liberalism.
@fconstraints
@fconstraints Год назад
Nah.
@robertmacdonaldch5105
@robertmacdonaldch5105 Год назад
50:00 James Lindsay
@Run.Ran.Run1
@Run.Ran.Run1 Год назад
I think the look on Lindsey's face that you try to describe somewhere in this video would be the expression of imposter syndrome, but in his case, he's not an imposter. He definitely doesn't belong at the level he's found himself.
@Kwisatz-Chaderach
@Kwisatz-Chaderach Год назад
The Godfather always delivers. Thanks Dave, God Bless!
@totallynot8408
@totallynot8408 Год назад
1:18:55 "Nobody is formalizing Hegel" The mathematician William Lawvere has an abstract mathematical formalization of Hegel that is even more incomprehensible than Hegel himself.
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
Sweet
@sephus99
@sephus99 Год назад
Lindsay and Boghossian worked together on the social justice Sokal stuff. They knew they were copying Sokal, at least they claimed so when they revealed what they've been doing. Lindsay has a shitpost mindset so you can't always take what he posts on twitter at face value. He seems to enjoy getting people rilled up at him. I only pay attention to him now when he has conversations with Benjamin Boyce.
@whosweptmymines3956
@whosweptmymines3956 Год назад
I was surprised at the accusation that Lindsay was "derivative". Lindsay's project is definitively not to be an original thinker. It's to expose the thoughts of the woke academics to the light and inform the right and libertarians about what they actually believe when they're talking to each other. In that capacity he's extremely effective. You just have to know when to kind of ignore him and let him get something out of his system.
@Kwisatz-Chaderach
@Kwisatz-Chaderach Год назад
​@whosweptmymines3956 He says the same thing that people in the DR spaces have been saying for along time and turns around and says "Don't listen to those right wingers. They are bad". He made the mistake of trying to take a shot at AAs collection of misfits. Wrong move Jimmy.
@newglof9558
@newglof9558 Год назад
"I Sokal'ed the SJW professors you guys hahaha!" Soykal affair
@brangrah1717
@brangrah1717 Год назад
​@@whosweptmymines3956 Lindsay is going really good work. His right wing haters are malcontents who pretty much want to lose the culture war so they can whine more.
@stevem815
@stevem815 Год назад
They didn't actually end up imitating Sokal. Sokal did something different, he basically wrote a paper that was literally nonsensical but used such obfuscatory language that no-one would own up to not being able to understand it. It was meant as a critique of the jargon filled screeds of postmodern academic writing. Lindsay tried.that but it didn't work. He ended up learning the theory then filling it with stupid content to show that it wasn't a serious discipline because it couldn't detect made up BS if it was ideologically correct. It was a pretty useful thing to do bexause it basically lets you dismiss out of hand the whole fields. They're literally useless if they can't distinguish what is real. It also exposes the 'idea laundering' mechanism of the social sciences. Lindsay is a massive knob, but he's done more than almost everyone to expose the woke.
@Paul-A01
@Paul-A01 Год назад
Dave, If you're ever short for content, you can always cut up some of your rants for a short video on a specific topic. Your rant about DEI statements would be a great standalone video
@persnipoles
@persnipoles Год назад
Don't know if it contributes to answer the question of Lindsay's appeal. My route to you went: Scott Horton, Tom Woods where I found James Lindsay did give me a clear sense of CSJ (the disability genocide idea was revealing), so I followed him to Haidt (because the same people would interview Haidt), and Boyce. Boyce gave me MacIntyre & The Distributist. Yup, i did get the sense there was a problem accepting ex leftists so graciously, but my exposure to anything better was limited and they (say, Lindsay, Haidt,... antiwokes) filled some need. Weird experience was noticing how antiwokes would use 'content of their character' or 'separate can't be equal.' They were bitterly flinging those at the woke like they were violating the basic morality; 'Civil Rights' '60s protestor morality. That's where I'm finding a lot in common with The Distributist. That's what those mostly are -- anti-woke woke progressives threatened by the newish iterations.
@-lollipopsunder-7044
@-lollipopsunder-7044 Год назад
The vivacious ocean of human experience and consciousness beyond dwarfs the eroding artificial islands of logic that the last man of the modern world cling too. Completely agreed. The ones who survive this will navigate this turmoil with mental vessels designed to ride the great waves of history.
@CScott-wh5yk
@CScott-wh5yk Год назад
Man-Child is the perfect way to describe Lindsay. Bugman applies as well.
@skippityblippity8656
@skippityblippity8656 Год назад
Blatantly homosexual „Die for sodomy abroad“ conservative
@jesse123185
@jesse123185 Год назад
I followed Lindsay's work back when I was more of a libertarian. I thought it was useful when no one could even say what critical race theory was however we're past that now and for some time it seemed like he was kind of beating a dead horse. Over a year ago he made a video talking about changing his focus to exposing the ESG system of course he didn't. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for some time that he was possibly just ignorant of any right wing ideas. His behavior recently has really just showed that he's less than useless and it's time for the discourse to move beyond these liberal types that don't want to admit the flaws of liberalism
@traddad9172
@traddad9172 Год назад
To keep initatives going JudeoChristianLiberalDemocracy grooms each graduating class of academia- I've been watching it play out here in DC for 20+ years and can assure you there will never be a shortage of this permanent Washington zeitgeist
@TheHammerofDissidence
@TheHammerofDissidence Год назад
James "real liberalism has never been tried!" Lindsay.
@houseofosborne1173
@houseofosborne1173 Год назад
Man, thank you so much for the help with finding a publisher. I have needed that help so much. Your username is very accurate to your role haha!
@spambot_gpt7
@spambot_gpt7 Год назад
Good point about people not wanting to admit their axioms. The main feature of a good interview is making people accidentally admit their axioms. But your part about JL is a bit too much rambling. His main gig of logically dismantling woke ideas (coincidentally exposing their axioms from their literature) is pretty interesting. An "intuitive understanding of Plato" is nice for you, but not really useful for others. No one can follow. And the problem with "who are your people?" is that things are not that black and white. It is one angle of analysis, but decisions are more complex. And people will mostly clothe their axioms in universal values because saying "I do it for me" will not appeal well to an audience. It's been that way at least since Cicero. You need some universal/shared values to keep small disagreements from always devolving into full-on power struggles. I get the thought that there were problems before woke that would still be there. But if it was gone, they could be criticized properly. There is room for a counter-Dan-Savage with actual evidence-based counseling.
@robertmacdonaldch5105
@robertmacdonaldch5105 Год назад
1:13:00 yeah Dave, James is an Enteral Centrist
@Raygun9000
@Raygun9000 Год назад
I find James Lindsey's videos and talks on the belief structures of leftism/wokeism quite useful. I care not for the paper of the page or the ink of the words, or even the author who wrote them. Just the ideas held within in them.
@SixtiesStick
@SixtiesStick Год назад
Same here, but his recent spiel on calling everything under the sun gnosticism and hermeutics is tiresome.
@Raygun9000
@Raygun9000 Год назад
@@SixtiesStick I don't know if it's everything under the sun, seems to just be Marxism and friends. Although I've only been listening to his videos the last month. The little g and big G gnosticism is a little clunky. I kinda wish he invented a different term for what he's trying to convey.
@SixtiesStick
@SixtiesStick Год назад
@@Raygun9000Yeah, I was being hyperbolic. However, Lindsay's incistance on "christian nationalists" and other neo-reactinonary factions being the dialectic pair to the intersectional left, means that he probably makes the same argument against the illiberal right. Sure, he can honestly make these connections when the similarities are clear. But as you said, a better term could probably be used instead.
@Kwisatz-Chaderach
@Kwisatz-Chaderach Год назад
​@@Raygun9000He didn't invent shit. That's why. The Church has been calling this prog stuff heresy for along time. Bishop Robert B has been calling it Gnosticism for at least a decade.
@afuzzycreature8387
@afuzzycreature8387 Год назад
@@SixtiesStick where's the wrong part
@vulpes6523
@vulpes6523 Год назад
Totaal linsday death
@ISAYWORDS1
@ISAYWORDS1 Год назад
Re: why lindsay has the status among the right that he does. Lindsay has some of, if not the most digestible and comprehensive breakdowns of modern leftist political religion I've come across in my years discussing and understanding politics. As Dave points out, people are often embarrassed about their core moral beliefs and thus conversations about politics, particularly with the left, leave you with this feeling that the person you're talking to is completely out of their mind, is a total hypocrite, or a compelte current thing sheep, or all three. After listening to a Lindsay lecture like "Hegel and the dialectical faith of Marxism," you can see the entire arc of left wing politics with almost perfect clarity. You come away with an understanding that these people are not in fact lunatic moron hypocrites, but they are extremely intelligent and strategic, and they are obfuscating their real core intuitive beliefs in the same way a mid century Austrian painter might do so. He also does an excellent job of pointing out that this is not a problem of the last 30 or even 100 years, but that the gnostic religion of the left has been on earth for thousands of years, and is predicated on the fundamental belief that the all and the one are the same, or more particularly, that the human and the divine are the same, and therefore the fundamental purpose of our time on this planet is reunion with the divine, to "remember" that we are God, and to awaken this "memory" in all humankind so that we might bring about the eschaton, or "the end of history" or "utopia." So these fundamental truths about our ideological opponents that 1. They arent just silly pomo lit majors who are off their prozac, they are rational and strategic actors working within a framework that has is own internal logic and 2. This is a spiritual battle that has been ongoing for thousands of years bring a sort of "a ha" moment for many online "anti woke" people and they feel a certain affinity to Lindsay because of it. That being said, his usefulness as a thinker ends about there, for all the reasons that were expertly outlined in this episode. On the one hand Lindsay understands that this is a millennia old struggle against the luciferian cult to become God, yet is solution is to roll back society to about 15 years ago as if that proverbial boulder wouldn't resume tumbling down the hill the minute it was released. Ultimately id be embarrassed as a right wing public intellectual that it took this liberal manchild to actually bite the bullet and read all the psychotic gobbledygook that came out of academia in the last 100 years so that we can actually understand why they do the things they do, and can actually attack it at the level of core and intuitive belief and not constantly arguing about inane abstractions which act as a sort of philosophical briar patch, or as Lindsay puts it, the "motte and bailey" At the end of the day you should take from Lindsays work that, the left truly believes that the self is God, and that because they know that they are God, they have special secret knowledge that means they should have God-like authority over all society so they can, just as God did, speak their creation into existence, but thats about it.
@BaremetalBaron
@BaremetalBaron Год назад
I have to say I always really liked that you called this a broadcast and not a "podcast". Something about that just felt right, aesthetically. "Podcast" as a neologism reeks of Silicon Valley bugman-ism to me, as though Apple came up with the idea of sending out a radio-style program for people to listen to.
@kaimacotta403
@kaimacotta403 Год назад
Dense and insightful as usual I see
@gregoryross1693
@gregoryross1693 Год назад
Great stream. This has been highly stimulating. I bookmark very few videos to go back and review, and this is definitely one. You hit several things I'll need to unpack. Good job, thanks, and God bless. I live close to where you all will be meeting in June but I doubt I can make it, hopefully we can watch or listen in.
@juhamarkkula7004
@juhamarkkula7004 Год назад
James Lindsay is interesting and deep thinker, but you are deeper. Thank you! 👍💯
@thinking-ape6483
@thinking-ape6483 Год назад
Dave, do you have a working theory as to why people like the Grim Dark genre, in particular 40K?
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
The same reason people liked Game of Thrones. It’s honest about the elements of history and politics that the liberal-progressive world order seeks to deny.
@misterkefir
@misterkefir Год назад
Because it's epic and awesome (in the literal sense), I guess? Ironically, it's much more "human-like" than 99% of any other entertainment product these days.
@thinking-ape6483
@thinking-ape6483 Год назад
@@TheDistributist Grim Dark is potentially even worse though; completely hopeless, pointless and almost entirely without heroes, kind of a spit in the face of actual fantasy. I don't get it.
@bilis2866
@bilis2866 Год назад
@@thinking-ape6483 dont read it then
@_GOD_HAND_
@_GOD_HAND_ Год назад
@@thinking-ape6483 If you think the 40K universe is hopeless, pointless and without heroes, you clearly haven't engaged with it at all.
@bmc8871
@bmc8871 Год назад
There is a lot here but your convo with McManus seems to be a keystone to understanding contemporary problems. You should condense this exchange and what you’ve come away with into a Substack or video essay.
@Nukestarmaster
@Nukestarmaster Год назад
I wonder what you think about the showing of """Rainbow Capitalism""" now that """Pride Month""" is in swing. 5 days in and we have the lowest participation in rainbow logos in a very long time. I'm not seeing any coherent backlash against the Right, nor any closing of ranks around this civic religion right now.
@cliffordmartin5731
@cliffordmartin5731 Год назад
Hi Dave, Thank your for your thoughtfulness expressed here, I found a lot of similarities in my own journey interacting with the "exvangelical" movement of evangelicals transitioning into "Progressive Christians". Its definitely a similar "can't look away" thing like it is for you and Breadtube. I wanted to chime in because the governing axioms that you expressed are codified into a system within Reformed Protestant thought: the apologetic form known as Pressuppositionalism. Despite what we would disagree on regarding Mother Kirk and the Catholic/Protestant divide, I do think you find a helpful articulation of those points in the writings of Cornelius Van Till and Dr. Greg Bahnsen- they would definitely be worth your time!
@Abafaja
@Abafaja Год назад
This was your finest work. A true genealogy of this type
@benjones1717
@benjones1717 Год назад
I don't think McManus understands libertarianism. Most on the left just don't like mean people, which of course is a rather superficial understanding of morality. The best way to convince people is just to discuss your own experiences (not online experiences).
@antkcuck
@antkcuck Год назад
I can get the general feeling against James Lindsay and Peter Berghossian but I think you analysis is slightly off James and Peter are clearly clinging to a failing classical liberalism but they're also clearly against progressivism in the academy You can see this in their split from the 3rd member of the "Sokal squared" papers Helen Pluckrose who is still progressive but trying to argue against woke and doesn't see the contradiction
@bartolo498
@bartolo498 Год назад
Yes, I think Lindsay et al do some good work (I am not quite sure as I am not going to listen to 2 hour sermons by him). But they don't seem to understand that classical liberalism led to the current situation. Which is odd because both Smith and Marx did understand that liberalism dissolves everything. Smith thought that "moral education" would prevent this (and he was right in so far that it took liberalism almost 200 years to mostly dissolve the remnants of Christendom) and Marx thought the destruction was inevitable, good and necessary to usher in communism. But they both clearly saw that liberalism would not lead to a stable state. And they don't seem to realize that the particular balance of the 1990 Lindsay, Boghossian etc. seem to want to get back to was the immediate step before the woke madness. So even if we could go back to 1995 it would just mean that in another 20-25 we would be where we are today.
@CScott-wh5yk
@CScott-wh5yk Год назад
Never liked Lindsay. I hope he goes away so he can play with his toy swords.
@HBeaucoup
@HBeaucoup Год назад
By far the best take on the boycots I have heard so far!
@gethimrock
@gethimrock Год назад
The more I think about it, the more the view from nowhere is really the problem. It’s like these people try out ideologies as a skin suit but don’t actually commit to anything. They are willing to say why Christianity is wrong but don’t actually have a defense for their ideologies when challenged on metaphysics.
@RainbowDevourer
@RainbowDevourer Год назад
This will probably disappear in the comments, but I just thought I'd leave my five cents about what you talk about at 1:36:57, why the future is right-wing. I completely agree with the sentiment, but from a completely secular/atheist point of view. Specifically rooted the concept of fitness-coefficients for living beings (and in this case for culture and religion because of its symbiosis with our biological survival). Humans are not evolved for accepting purely rational arguments, but seem to have a built-in tribalism and affinity for religion, spiritualism and such in some form. - In short, culture and religion represents a part of the decision-making system of human groups, and some of these "operating systems" are obviously better than others in terms of long-term survival. Others seem to have a stronger ability to out-compete others short-term by burning through the capability to support itself long-term; the obvious example is making people reproduce less by making women part of the workforce and part of the political activism-apparatus. A lot more energy is available short-term, but it reduces long-term sustainability of this cultural variant. So it is geared towards spreading itself to other groups instead of replenishing themselves in a self-contained way. Personally, I find myself incapable of holding religious beliefs (they do not resonate with me at all, despite how many of them I try to expose myself to). But I recognize that humans are spiritual creatures, and all my reading of history only support this. Particularly the book Yarvin mentioned once, The Ancient City, which was about the laws of ancient greece, rome and old Indian religions. The way that the mere concept of non-religions laws could not exist until the enlightenment-era, and how alien it is from a historical perspective. Anyways, I come to the conclusion that the future will be religions because I concede that these groups have a larger fitness-coefficient than modern, secular societies that burn through its future population growth by parasitizing other cultural groups. It will burn itself out and the cultures that are not self-sterilizing will prevail. I also come to the conclusion that my lack of religious affinity is probably representative of a cognitive phenotype that may be an evolutionary dead-end across time.
@skylinefever
@skylinefever Год назад
Yes, I completely agree. I often say that birth control in industrialized economies will select for genuine motivation to have children. People able to genuinely believe "God will provide" might just have more.
@RainbowDevourer
@RainbowDevourer Год назад
@@skylinefever Yes, also add that more advanced birth-control is now adding a selection-pressure which will promote the desire for children amongst those who procreate (now that it is largely a choice rather than forced upon us by natural processes)
@skylinefever
@skylinefever Год назад
@@RainbowDevourer Indeed. People will be selecting for an actual desire to reproduce. Before then, hellfire and brimstone "Go forth and multiply" sermons were the one way some people were motivated to have children. With the death of such religions, that manipulation can die with it. The "Unwilling parent genes" can go extinct and good riddance.
@talios6824
@talios6824 Год назад
There's simply no way as a right winger to justify the statement, "...IQ, and the minor differences, in the grand scheme of things they are minor..." This is simply cushioning the harsh reality that major IQ gaps in populations renders a peaceful cohabitation between two groups impossible without slavery or domination by the more intelligent group, in most cases anyway. 2:14:15
@Geosten
@Geosten Год назад
Do you have Spotify? I recently found your channel and it's a gold mine. I want to listen while doing some other things.
@deserttortoise2227
@deserttortoise2227 Год назад
This is a brilliant video. I’ve searched for years to find the center or root moral taxonomy of the left, but couldn’t find a consistent basis. Your explanation of Matt McManus’s core belief as radical optionality makes too much sense. If you believe that you can choose what is right and what is wrong or that morality can change over time then you’ve rejected basic concepts like good and evil altogether. I really hope that I’m wrong, either in my interpretation or that Matt has core beliefs he won’t disclose.
@BardicLiving
@BardicLiving Год назад
If "good" and "evil" are defined independently of any cultural context, though, it isn't clear what meaning they have in the first place.
@Liisa3139
@Liisa3139 Год назад
There is no way of ending then Russian war on Ukraine by peace negotiations with Putin (or some like minded person after him), because that would just mean more time for Russia to prepare the its next invasion. Ukraine is just not the real goal of Putin; his goal is the West. He has said it himself. He believes that if he can use the weaknesses of the west at the right time he can crumble the western world. And he is not totally wrong, by the way.
@north6417
@north6417 Год назад
I don't know how to word this exactly but does anyone else get the feeling that people are almost splitting into different species based a lot on the quality of the food they eat a lot of plus the medications (vs not taking any medications) they're taking? In terms of how people feel and behave day-to-day. I increasingly believe at least the main staple foods like bread need to be eaten organic the more I read about health and food
@Peter-fi7tu
@Peter-fi7tu 11 месяцев назад
idk if thats relevant but Mcmanus is the name of a character from the movie "The Usual Suspects" 😀 beside that i sometimes believe that all moral leftis and social justice warriors are on the quest to right the wrong that was done by what marx called the "original accumulation" which started the whole capitalism project with an unprecedented process of expropriation...its like the orignal sin...so when the monster that is capitalism has a starting point then we also can end it in a final redistribution and then enter paradise...marxism has that build-in messianic perspective and arc from the getgo
@GodsOwnPrototype
@GodsOwnPrototype Год назад
HBD has always been more than mere IQ measures & it is why I have always pushed back on your saying it is ultimately unimportant.
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
It’s important that they are lying about it and making bad bets on it.
@c-rex
@c-rex Год назад
Great talk. I can forgive your IPA Hipster phase. Many of us have been there.
@evangallion1661
@evangallion1661 Год назад
Mauritian struggle came came to believe based on reason. He's a rare case, but it happens.
@ThieleMobile
@ThieleMobile Год назад
James and Pete worked together on the Grievance Studies. Two heads of the same beast.
@sd5919
@sd5919 Год назад
I thought Lindsay would be better than this since his PhD is in a subject that requires a decent IQ. This reveals just how important character is.
@Kwisatz-Chaderach
@Kwisatz-Chaderach Год назад
One of the most entertaining streams I watched was AA's "The intellectual poverty of James Lindsay".
@rmurray8913
@rmurray8913 Год назад
Lindsay is the man.
@mbgmail5911
@mbgmail5911 Год назад
Lev is working to destroy almost everything you stand for.
@wizzydq1
@wizzydq1 Год назад
I'm sorry but that is unfair. The Bogosian paper thing was a conscious copy of Sokal. Whether it was effective or not it was a deliberate Sokal style hoax.
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
I know it was a copy, but then what was the point?
@wizzydq1
@wizzydq1 Год назад
@@TheDistributist to prove a lack of genuineness. Ok Sokal didn't change anything but he proved his point (especially in the skeptic community)
@newglof9558
@newglof9558 Год назад
There's only one Sokal, all imitators are Soykal
@stevem815
@stevem815 Год назад
​​@@TheDistributist sokal was an exposure of the obfuscatory style of postmodern academia. He was basically showing that no-one understood what anyone else was saying most of the time. Lindsay and friends were showing that the fields of social justice 'studies' disciplines were purely ideological, ie. they were indifferent to whether or not the knowledge they were generating was real, they were only interested in investing ideologically correct papers with the imprimatur of academic peer review so they could later be used as 'evidence' for policy, foundations for academic theory and ammunition in the culture war. Lindsay initially tried the Sokal ploy but it didn't work, so he and his friends actually learned the forms and theories of the 'studies' fields he was attacking. Then he gave the gatekeepers of those fields the correct ideological signals and they allowed him to dump a large pile of made up, ludicrously garbage research into their discipline. In fact they didn't just allow him, i think he actually recieved an award for it. Sokal just wrote unintelligible gibberish. Lindsay showed that there was essentially no filter on the social justice end of the social sciences, that basically anything could become 'truth' if it reached the right conclusions. Sokal might have showed that the emperor had no clothes, but Lindsay showed that he was an evil old bastard who was diddling kids.
@50centpb7
@50centpb7 Год назад
Dave, you talk about fakeness and wanting to avoid it, but nothing sounds more fake to me than when somebody talks about "humanity" as if it's something they're meant to care about over their particular relations to race, tribe, religion, family etc. For example I don't care about the birth rates of the Congo, where i do care greatly for that of my own civilization's - to pretend otherwise is as fake as it gets. Humanity is a far removed abstraction from the personal loyalties that actually feel real.
@lamename2010
@lamename2010 Год назад
If I recall correctly james lindsey was part of that studies scandal of a few years ago. Peter was the old guy adding in some "credibility".
@CasaBonita1018
@CasaBonita1018 Год назад
Yooo Tombstone reference! Let's gooooo!!
@cikitsasecret8239
@cikitsasecret8239 Год назад
Also dave I just wanted to say that despite that discussion being hard to watch I still thought it was valuable just as a psychological profile of the adversary
@sixfiftyfive2386
@sixfiftyfive2386 Год назад
the austrian painter 🤮 is that supposed to be cute
@collectivismkills
@collectivismkills Год назад
The problem with Dave’s argument here with respect to morality (value) not being a function of logic but “intuition and experience” is that even intuition and experience must be articulated in language...and language is conceptual. Without conceptual consistency-or logic (I prefer the term “reason” when speaking philosophically)-one cannot possess an articulable morality. Morality then becomes entirely impractical, pointless, and cannot really be shared. One must be “enlightened” to it…which is rank mysticism, which is cultism, which is death. But in fairness to Dave, he has admitted to being a mystic so…not surprised he divorces his ethics from reason. That’s mysticism 101.
@JagerIV
@JagerIV Год назад
Yeah, a link to the article would be good.
@jonash6503
@jonash6503 Год назад
Really liked your rant about debate and values at 55:30 - consider clipping this maybe or recycling the content for broader audience. BTW, I think the idea of street epistemology can work for some arguments, where social stigma is minimal as a kind of catalyst for the individual to introspect with more honesty. Anthony Magnabosco has an interesting channel here on yt dedicated to the concept.
@MrTJTeez
@MrTJTeez Год назад
I see Dave. I like. Simple as
@daheikkinen
@daheikkinen Год назад
I’m new to this channel. I was wondering where you went to school. You sound awfully like a Hillsdale grad (my alma mater). A lot of interesting ideas here (although I am an atheist libertarian).
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
Michigan
@daheikkinen
@daheikkinen Год назад
@@TheDistributist Ah, the other good school in Michigan. I lived in Ann Arbor for 5 years in my early 20s. I was just curious 🧐
@-EndlessHorizon
@-EndlessHorizon Год назад
Damn James Lindsey having a melt down is so weird hasn't he been like the anti woke guy and he also did a good presentation on gnosticism what a weird scenario
@runreilly
@runreilly Год назад
Can you summarize his melt down? I'm completely out of the loop probably because I don't use Twitter.
@-EndlessHorizon
@-EndlessHorizon Год назад
@@runreilly Dave talked about it around 40 mins
@robertmacdonaldch5105
@robertmacdonaldch5105 Год назад
1:27:00 the beer market has also been flat so there some logic in angling for new markets, but this was still a very dumb way
@asteroidalassassin6949
@asteroidalassassin6949 Год назад
Have you every considered trying to debate Vaush? He's a real piece of work, and you won't have to pretend to be nice. Seeing him get destroyed would be great.
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
I just quit that call. He was bullshiting me.
@asteroidalassassin6949
@asteroidalassassin6949 Год назад
@@TheDistributist That's disappointing, especially considering the fact that I have tried to get on a debate with him in the past for it to fail.
@stevem815
@stevem815 Год назад
The germans weren't shy about admitting to their feeling of the superiority of the german people.
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
They weren’t. It was assumed that nations acted in the interests of their core indigenous demographic groups back then.
@stevem815
@stevem815 Год назад
@@TheDistributist in the video you seemed to suggest that the repression or failure to recognise that base motivation was part of their pathology, whereas it really seemed to be the opposite, both a core strength in terms of a unifying mythos and a tragic flaw in it's failure to predict reality. If anything it only gave them the impetus to destroy their nation, and to undermine the qualities they admired in their own people wherever they appeared in every other western nation since.
@nullifye7816
@nullifye7816 Год назад
I often go into these streams hoping for insightful thoughts and I'm met with complaints about these weirdos and rants about internet culture. In the case of Lindsay, I've learned more by bingeing his streams for a couple of weeks than from this side of the debate in at least a year. Simply complaining that he's not anti-liberal or anti-porn enough and making fun of his appearance doesn't change that, in fact a lot of us have been having to reckon with an illiberal world might well look like soon.
@TheDistributist
@TheDistributist Год назад
That’s not the complaint. The complaint is that he refuses to engage with us or even explain his positions on these cringe liberal ideas, to the point where he won’t even talk to one of the most seminal figures in this area.
@luddicpath6756
@luddicpath6756 Год назад
What did you learn from James Lindsay? That feminism is actually Feminine Gnosticism? That Intersectionality is actually Esoteric Maoism? That woke is actually Hegelianism? Was it useful?
@daheikkinen
@daheikkinen Год назад
Leave Lindsay alone. *cries
@realityweasel8461
@realityweasel8461 Год назад
I’m going to try to engage with the content of this video on your terms, since you seem more receptive to it. “Who are your people” is an interesting question, in a sense it is the starting point for all political analysis (in the Aristotelian sense, of course). What I don’t think follows is the assertion that an honest answer leads to right-wing conclusions. My people are, on one side of my family, Ashkenazi Jews, and French Acadians on the other. Both of these populations have experienced persecution and ethnic cleansing at various points in history, at the hands of dominant forces wielding the powers of empire and capital. Liberation is central to Jewish cultural consciousness in particular, since at all points in history we have been a minority religion that nobody wanted within the borders of their territory. I believe my people are important. I don’t, however, believe my people are the best. I believe all people, and all peoples, are important. The harm principle does have utility towards this end, because sometimes wars are not wars of belief. Sometimes wars are born of reflexive disgust (the wars that killed my Jewish family), and sometimes wars are born of power and greed (the Seven Years War that killed my Acadian family). The people who can’t answer the question of who are my people don’t sincerely believe in liberation because they don’t need to answer the question in the first place. They’re the ones waging war. What you call “the left” in America is a contingent of managerial elites who believe in liberalism and meritocracy above all else, which is not a meaningfully leftist political program. Most leftists, even online, are deeply opposed to liberalism because it concentrates power in the hands of property owners. When you take off the institutional veneer, it quickly descends back into empire and fascism. I think you have a blind spot about the answers a lot of people have to the question, because you don’t see why liberatory politics might be a good thing for some peoples. We don’t live in the best version of all worlds where everyone is on a more or less level playing field. Some of our experienced realities in our families and communities are primarily of discrimination, oppression, and historical trauma. If you think the best way to benefit your people is to keep things the way they are, or go backwards, it’s because that injustice hasn’t touched you yet.
@JunkSock
@JunkSock 11 месяцев назад
Jews are at the top of the moral leftist framework… I think your blinders might be on with this thought.
@XanarchistBlogspot
@XanarchistBlogspot Год назад
Whoah, whoah, woah, BogusAsian is a boomer.
@_BirdOfGoodOmen
@_BirdOfGoodOmen Год назад
First 😌
@misterkefir
@misterkefir Год назад
Thirst?
@Confusion.and.Delay...
@Confusion.and.Delay... Год назад
Faust
@MrSwac31
@MrSwac31 Год назад
Thought you said diet-lectics at the begining of the video Would be a fun concept
@7QHook
@7QHook Год назад
I so want Anheuser Busch to go bankrupt.
@rivethead138
@rivethead138 Год назад
Ever think about having BAP on?
@CScott-wh5yk
@CScott-wh5yk Год назад
How was Carl a lightweight early on? He would regularly stream with 6oodfella, who is about as hardcore as a good person can get.
@gethimrock
@gethimrock Год назад
He was very much a dunk on SJW types early on
@obadiah_vandal
@obadiah_vandal Год назад
01:22:28 amen
@Wingedmagician
@Wingedmagician Год назад
Seriously 😒 making fun of how James Lindsay looks
@wrathofatlantis2316
@wrathofatlantis2316 Год назад
1:36:58 "The future is reactionary" . If you truly understand what you are saying, then that means the future is Russia, with maybe one or three Eastern European countries. If you think that's not the case, I don't understand what planet you are living on. South Africa is now 8 hours a day without electricity, this forecasted to stretch on for years if not decades, with people already paying for workarounds, and not the slightest sign of collapse in sight... Is that what you call a "reactionary future"?
@jasonmathieu8314
@jasonmathieu8314 Год назад
I only trust peer-pressure reviewed studies
@brianbob7514
@brianbob7514 Год назад
I think we sort of think too much
@AJX-2
@AJX-2 Год назад
Thought is supposed to guide action. Thought for thought's sake is masturbation.
@Vingul
@Vingul Год назад
If you thought less, you wouldn't think that.
@cccalhoun
@cccalhoun Год назад
Is Auron MacIntyre aware of the sexual degeneracy going on at the Blaze the last 2 years?
@Rasenganplanet
@Rasenganplanet Год назад
I’m not. What is it?
@cccalhoun
@cccalhoun Год назад
@Rasenganplanet Sydney Watson's lawsuit, Elijah Schaffer groping Sara Gonzales, John Doyle sleeping with Savanah Hernandez and Brittany Venti. Alex Stein.
@constantinethegreat6605
@constantinethegreat6605 Год назад
​@@cccalhounwow I knew about savannah but not venti lol we're did you hear this
@cccalhoun
@cccalhoun Год назад
@constantinethegreat6605 TLDR I was her friend for the last couple years and still a friend of some of her friends.
@Richard-ul8yz
@Richard-ul8yz Год назад
Regarding Lindsay: I noticed an oddly coordinated attack on him by the "NRx" about stealing memes. Then Auron Macintyre sort of randomly called him a bugman. This pissed James off. Then another coordinated attack about what an idiot he is (Which you are continuing here.) I was actually pretty happy to see him appropriating right wing memes as his actual influence is much broader than anything you all were doing. I guess that all gets overridden by the grifty impulse of "HEY THAT'S MINE!!"
@devin_3875
@devin_3875 Год назад
Yep - I noticed the same thing. I’m not impressed
@phalanxcuthalion9664
@phalanxcuthalion9664 Год назад
but Lindsay isn't on our side
@devin_3875
@devin_3875 Год назад
I also happen to agree with James, that the “Christian Nationalist” label is a trap. I understand James to be offering good advice in good faith.
@devin_3875
@devin_3875 Год назад
What’s a ‘bugman’, by the way?
@ThatGuy-mt7hq
@ThatGuy-mt7hq Год назад
The fundamental problem with James Lindsay is he simply wants to just go back to the 2000s. Doesn't solve our problem, sure you can roll that stone uphill but sure didn't workout for Sisyphus.
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