Making A Case for the Return of Demise in Tears of the Kingdom 

Also, Ganon/Ganondorf can return if he comes into contact with Link's blood (Zelda II)!

Those demon plants are like-likes bro. 😂

@@IamKiener thank you for pointing this out! I’ll need to take a closer look, but after thinking about it, that sounds right

@@wizcatcheslightning of course... great video BTW! Keep up the awesome content!

@@IamKiener thanks! I really appreciate that 🤗

I really like that cathartic idea! Thanks for sharing 🤗

I LOVE this theory, in fact I REALLY REALLY hope this is going to happen too! However…….Ganondorf looks kinda angry when he screams. Plus, I dont think he is going to get a redemption arc because he says, *”Do not look away, you witness a King’s revival*”. Kinda evil if ya ask me, not gonna lie

I’ve been thinking pretty much the same thing since the Final Trailer, Glad to know someone else thinks alike

@@sandboxsoldier864 I wish I had 60 more days to air out all of my idea xD

Ganondorf isn't controlled by Demise though.

Thanks Jayde! I love talking Zelda, and I felt a need to make content in response to what I’ve been seeing from others about Zelda theories. I wonder how this video would be received if I posted it in r/ToTK 🤔 🤣

wholly agreed, just found this channel and it's by far my new favorite. and a good voice to accompany that

@@vaisli3136 I appreciate the compliments! Also thanks for watching another video I recommended. Happy to have you around, but also, feel free to poke at any holes you may see in my theories so I can stay on track for the community 😂

I second what Jayde said. 💯

@@garrettlambert714 thanks for watching another video of mine! I’m not going to bat 1,000 on content that everyone appreciates, but comments like this keep me motivated to continue making quality content regardless of people liking my ideas.

I think that’s an excellent point to acknowledge. Impa using the word “slowly” just left so much room for my imagination 😂

You wouldn’t believe how long it took to learn Impa and Purah were sisters

No doubt. Thanks for the future view!

There’s some sort of mythology tied to all of it, and I was trying to look into this further, but it’s proving to be difficult. My mind can’t help but draw parallels from Sekiro with the Divine Dragon who is tied to the Everblossom. Maybe I’ll find something I can convey if I look hard enough/get more creative with my searches!

Yup and Fujibayashi was the director of Skyward Sword, BOTW, and TOTK.

Thanks! Comments like that keep me going and I sincerely appreciate it 😎

Any idea where I can find a video explaining this theory?

@@wizcatcheslightning no, it’s just a thing online I’ve read a few times. You can most likely find it mentioned elsewhere online. I originally found out this theory from a random RU-vid comment on a Zelda theory video

Thanks! Not sure what the complete term is, but as you can imagine, it’s hard to make annunciations in the mic. But essentially we are talking about Demise’s anima or mind.

I can jive with that idea 😎

Headcanon

Hey well thanks for the accolades! You’ll have to thank QuestWithAaron for the etymology I researched for this specific video, definitely check out the two videos I linked in the description! He has an awesome perspective on Zelda 😎

@@wizcatcheslightning Will do. You make the wait for Tears of the Kingdom much easier to bear!

@@mrplatink that puts a smile on my face! Thanks😊

@@wizcatcheslightning You're most welcome - keep going strong!

I completely agree. Thanks! 😊

@@wizcatcheslightningNo worries! It’s great to hear someone so knowledgeable about the franchise speak about theories like this. I look forward to future videos you release 😊

@@WhiteWolf2874 rock n roll! Yeah Zelda Ocarina of Time was one of the earliest video games I encountered growing up. As you can probably tell, I became obsessed with the series, especially after discovering the first timeline theories 😅 And thank you. Comments like that make the effort to make this content worth it. Hope to make you proud in the future!

Thanks! I wanted to publish before the weekend but I decided to take more time to bring y’all the quality 😎

Thank you!

I like the darkness surrounding that idea. Anonuma and co did say tears of the kingdom would be darker

in the time gannon was sealed made the malace slowly become more dense concentrations of malice what would cause for it to become a differnt term to it wich its then called gloom

Thanks Brad! And yessir just lmk

Have you seen the other vids? Because man…👀 No idea how I did it, but I can promise you that the only stuff I saw were the artbook leaks

I addressed this issue in the video with my point made about what a Sheikah like Impa qualifies as a really long time. I also included a terrible math problem to further strengthen that argument because cosmic beings definitely perceive Time differently from humans. Demise doesn’t have the title “the Conqueror of Time” without merit 🤣

Thanks Jesterz 🤗

Thanks!

Exactly 😎

Repeat after me: Demise Tree 😎

I LOVE this theory, in fact I REALLY REALLY hope this is going to happen too! However…….Ganondorf looks kinda angry when he screams. Plus, I dont think he is going to get a redemption arc because he says, *”Do not look away, you witness a King’s revival*”. Kinda evil if ya ask me, not gonna lie

If the story plays out this way, I won’t be disappointed. It’s similar to Groose’s character redemption arc in Skyward Sword. I don’t know if it’s ever said outright, but a lot of people speculate that Groose was the descendant of the Gerudo. He has red hair and topaz colored eyes.

@@wizcatcheslightning Well, I guess we will see. Either way, Ganon's design in Totk is really cool!

My meme game isn’t strong, so I appreciate that 😆

@@wizcatcheslightning well that sir is goated especially since it was so unexpected and it fit with the context so well 😂great stuff

@@Lordbritt I really love getting into the editing booth and getting creative for all of you, so again, and I genuinely mean this, thank you for that 🥹

Your welcome bro the hard work definitely shows

Hey, at the end of the day, that’s okay that you disagree! Disagreeing furthers the conversation I want my viewers to have about the Zelda series as we all wait with baited breath (of the wild) for this dang sequel to come out 🤣

@@wizcatcheslightning yeah true, plus a lot of stuff isn’t fully set in stone or confirmed so we can all theorize and agree or disagree on the finer details that interest us.

@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 exactly 😎👉👉

I still think Ganondorf channeled Demise in TOTK 😂

@@wizcatcheslightning It is definitely a mix of both, even if they didn't specifically state it. Somehow TotK feels like a mix of all things.. just like how the Lands in Dark Souls 3 all converge in one place.

I totally got those vibes as well. We’re on the same page my dude. Hope to see you again in the future.

@@wizcatcheslightning I'm here if you need me!

Exactly! 😎

Please tell the rest of the internet 😂

In its own strange way, yes 😅

Thanks! Yeah I thought that was peculiar 🤔

but it think thats just for gameplay reasons. there are nearly no games of that size that have 24h per day

@@zakzerak7191 yeah I get that just trying to find an explanation for why they live for so many years. Just a thought

Throw the video into editing software and zoom in on it and render the image. They’re there

I’m so jealous! I’ve been waiting 6 years, man 🤣

Hey that thought contributes to the conversation so thanks for taking the time to write it! I’ll have to look into that more!

I like where your head is at!

Ghirahim just teleported out and, like young Impa, remained and technically could still be in the present like she was

Having someone comment more than once on several videos is not a problem AT ALL! Keep them coming. They promote the video to other people who could potentially enjoy the channel. Excellent observation! I’ll have to take a look at that when I get a chance.

That would be cool indeed 🥲 Demise also had a forehead scar from losing his central horn, where the seal spike was placed, while fighting Hylia

Tony, my man. Thank you 😎

That’s a really good question! And I’ve seen quite a few Zeldatubers speculate that this could be the case. It’s definitely plausible, but I have a hard time shaking the idea of a Zonai magic hand powering sheikah tech. I’m not ruling it out of the realm of possibility however!

That’s a really interesting idea to ponder while we wait… it could very well be true.

Thank you!

The Devil, or in this case, Demise, is in the details 😏

Yes, but the blood of the goddess (and the reincarnation of Hylia’s soul), as far as we know, gets passed from Zelda to Zelda. Zelda’s mother in BOTW would have had the soul of Hylia before she did, for example. Let me know what you think or I can explain further.

@@wizcatcheslightning I’m pretty sure it’s just powers passed down from Hylia. We can speak with and hear her spirit in BotW when talking to goddess statues.

@@WindMageMaster Bandit Games actually came out with a theory about that voice of the statues being Zelda’s mother (which would explain her mother’s untimely death), it’s definitely worth checking out.

Exactly!

Ganon and Ganondorf are the same person aren’t they? Or maybe I’m just misremembering 😭

@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 yeah but i just couldnt be bothered to say ganondorf each time

@@finley8858 yeah that makes sense then

Very true

It’s plausible! Thousands of years are like seconds for a cosmic being 😎

No idea how you made the TM superscript but I’m all about it 😎 👉👉 Also thanks 😆 Yes, it’s all theoretical (wishful) thinking. I just wanted to make a case for how Demise could return and share it with you all 🥲

@@wizcatcheslightning it was a dope video, my dude! it would be pretty cool if Demise did make a return

@@annaisntcool much appreciated! And, of course, I agree

He is but the end of TP shows him losing his Triforce of Power and the Zelda Encyclopedia corroborates that he was “eliminated” in the child timeline

You’re right. I meant .01 as in 1% instead of 1/1000th. I am notoriously bad at math and probably should have had someone look at the math before adding it in. Hopefully you didn’t find many holes in the other content presented 😆

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I can respect that.

Rock n Roll Brandon 😎

Ganondorf being alive and Demise returning are not two mutually exclusive events 😉

@@wizcatcheslightning well it kinda is in your theory

@@clonetrooper2003 to your credit, I made this video without considering specific points. But after seeing that final trailer, I expanded on my theory to include both. So that’s my bad. Check out my “Is this DEMISE?” video and you’ll see what I mean

@@wizcatcheslightning i understand, alright

See ya I guess 🤣

Additionally. Zelda does not reincarnate, she is a blood descendant and there evidence for link reincarnating is iffy at best, you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the series lore. Malice is not unique to Demise or Ganondorf. Malice is the power of Demons, it is their grudges and curses. Vaati, Malladus, Twinrova, Onox, Veran, etc. etc. are all members of the demon tribe and all have malice. Ganondorf is not some possessed man, the malice in botw is the result of his grudge being so powerful it becomes physical much like we've seen happen in games like SS where monsters (who are minor members of the demon tribe) drop malice infused crystals.

You know, it’s instances like these where I wish I understood Japanese, but I unfortunately do not. If this is your first video of mine viewed, I suggest watching the other Zelda content before this video to better understand my perspective. Your Japanese sounds flawed, but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt because (unfortunately) it’s not my native language, and it is a language I don’t understand. If your Japanese is 100% correct (we have to acknowledge that translation between any two languages is never 100% because translation between two languages is always a compromise), then your interpretation/reasoning is flawed. When you say Fi refers to Demise being annihilated, it sounds like you’re talking about Demise as a whole (Demise the being/entity) no longer existing. This can be true, while at the same time, Demise’s residual consciousness can be sealed inside of the Master Sword. So Demise the entity is gone, he no longer has form. Yet his residual consciousness is in the Master Sword. His corpus, or body, is split from his anima, his soul/mind. If Demise’s body is gone but his soul/mind remains in the Master Sword, he’s not fully annihilated (which is basically Latin for “no longer existing” or “nothing”). He wouldn’t need to be sealed within the Master Sword if he were absolutely gone. If Demise were completely gone, why would anyone need to watch over the Master Sword? That would be pointless. Why would the word “awaken”, a word applied to existing things, be mentioned regarding the possibility of Demise? Again, this implies that, yes, his body and mind are no longer connected, but he’s still very much in fact, around. “The One/Bringer of Demise cannot awaken…this world must not be exposed to that threat again…” implies that Demise can come back. These are your words. The Divine Task is a neat bit that I can accept. We see the Sheikah Shrine monks practically do the same thing in BOTW. I appreciate you sharing that.

The soul of Hylia reincarnates into a bloodline of Zeldas. Zelda does not reincarnate. Link, as far as we know, doesn’t come from any sort of lineage. While Links look physically similar, they’re just reincarnations of the same Spirit of the Hero. I agree that Malice isn’t unique to Demise or Gandondorf. But Demise is the king of demons. Ganondorf is an avatar of Demise’s hatred and resentment. Demise beget the curse of Malice upon the Blood of the Goddess (this implies a lineage, the same lineage Zeldas belong to) and the Spirit of the Hero. Ganondorf has not reincarnated ever. That’s a fact. Except maybe in Four Swords Adventures but the jury is out on that one for me. What was discussed in this video, was how his lack of reincarnation fueled the Malice pouring out of him like a pressure cooker, because Ganondorf is supposed to pass on and then come back, and he hasn’t done this in the beginning of Tears of the Kingdom.

Thank you 😊

Well not to be “that guy” but Ganondorf is technically a discount Demise😂