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Making Domino Joints for $30 

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Nick demonstrates how “domino” joints were made in days gone by, when they were known as “loose tenon” joints and all you needed was a hand-held drill and a doweling jig. This method isn’t as fast as a dedicated domino joiner, perhaps; but it’s effective and economical.
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@KOutOfMyYard
@KOutOfMyYard 2 года назад
You are absolutely the most enthusiastic, entertaining and knowledgeable woodworker on the internet. Period.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Thank you. Exclamation point.
@nwembly
@nwembly 2 года назад
I would too if I got a kickback from festool lol😁😂. Honestly, just giving you crap…don’t know one way or the other if you are; doesn’t matter😁
@johnklein3426
@johnklein3426 2 года назад
I recently got into woodworking as a way to get my hands dirty and get away from the computer after a long day at work. Your videos not only educate me, but they inspire me to learn more and become better at the craft. Thank you!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome, and thank you for the kind words.
@lathamgreen
@lathamgreen 11 месяцев назад
I know the feeling
@devlware
@devlware 5 месяцев назад
👏🏻
@triplex86
@triplex86 2 года назад
Your videos are so good to watch. I love the tongue in cheek humour as well - its amazing how many woodshop videos on YT these days assume that you will have a $1,000 dollar tool or a $10,000 CNC machine just lying around in the shop. Makes me laugh.
@CLove511
@CLove511 10 месяцев назад
They don't assume you do 🙄 They are using the tool they have because they do it professionally, but there isn't a single thing that can't be done with entry level tools.
@frankhill9527
@frankhill9527 2 года назад
The educational content is awesome, I also love the humor he injects in the commentary.
@tlum4081
@tlum4081 2 года назад
For those people adverse to wallowing out the slot with a drill bit since they're not designed for that, machinist endmills are available designed to cut metal on the side. Most also cut on the end but you have to buy the plunge type. For that matter, straight router bits could also be used.
@zacbrown935
@zacbrown935 2 года назад
Great presentation sir! For those of us who don't have corporate sponsors and thousands of dollars to throw at woodworking, the dowel jig makes perfect sense. I actually own one of the beauties, and have used it many a times. Never have used the jig to create a loose tenon, but thanks to you, I now have the knowledge to do so!! Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome.
@scottmcfarland1177
@scottmcfarland1177 2 года назад
Nick is a very skilled woodworker! I have read many of his books and articles on building many pieces!
@jack002tuber
@jack002tuber 2 года назад
Thanks. I see a great value in just using a doweling jig and dowels. Good tips
@svsoleil3255
@svsoleil3255 2 года назад
Awesome Video as always...thanks for info...The point of the dominoe is that it's faster and you can make many joints in little time (time is money), a good thing if your making a living selling your projects...I used to use doweling jigs (no mortise cut out) for that purpose which adds hours...The dominoe does pay for itself after a few good jobs...but its nice to see different ways to do things...happy wood working to all!
@NWGR
@NWGR 2 года назад
This can't be said enough. Domino + a few paying jobs and it's already paid for itself in time saved, unless you're content with working for around $3/hr. Undervaluing their time is something I see most woodworkers do time and time again to save a few bucks up front. I still use a doweling jig, but a nicer one (dowelmax). It works on reference surfaces rather than center points like those junky "self centering" jigs.
@guy48065
@guy48065 11 месяцев назад
Absolutely time is money. I've used dowels, chopped mortises by hand, drill press & dedicated hollow-chisel mortiser, and done a few using the method in Nick's video. The domino is the best result in the shortest time--at the highest cost in tooling. It's criminal what Festool charges for their machine and I'm sure there will be copies that carefully don't violate any patents available soon for 1/4 the price. Once the patent expires it'll be maybe $200 at Harbor Freight.
@rickpouley2857
@rickpouley2857 2 года назад
That was an excellent instruction video! I refused to pay that type of money for a piece of equipment when I can do the job for roughly $30. Thank you very much for this information!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome. But I have say in all honesty, that jig that I used was something I picked in the late 70s or early 80s. It was made in America with the sort of tool craftsmanship we used to take for granted back then. To get that sort of quality tool today costs a little more than $30 -- read the recommendation we made at the end of the video description.
@nasarazam
@nasarazam 8 месяцев назад
It depends. True if you are a hobbyist. But if you are a professional, Domino will get this work done in fraction of a time and save you headaches and money…. The best alternative ( not a replacement ) for Domino is Dowelmax. I have used both and I am a hobbyist. The only inconvenience I found with Dowelmax is the screw holding the stock can get loose. The only inconvenience I found with Domino ( besides the price) is the dominos are too tight for dry test. And if you select the loose option, the mortise are too wide… this may be ok as it makes it easy to alight during glue up and the wide surface is enough for the glue strength. I still wanted the default tighter notices to be a shade wider. This way you do not need todo extra work of sanding dominos to marrow it down etc… Dowelmax is still expensive, but the precision is amazing… I have built coffe table and desk using dowelmax
@chuckdeskins4660
@chuckdeskins4660 2 года назад
make a length of "tenon" round over on router table, cut to length.
@whatwouldwesleycook9759
@whatwouldwesleycook9759 2 года назад
Hey! That’s a pretty good idea!
@cpeterson877
@cpeterson877 2 года назад
While you're at it use the router table to cut the slots
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
If you're doing a lot of tenons, sure. But most of the time I just look for any excuse to get out a hand plane.
@KatieCottingham
@KatieCottingham Год назад
That's great if you have a router. I think the point to be made is that it's not necessary. As someone with limited tools and limited hand mobility (thanks to a reckless driver nearly checking me out of life early), the option to do this kind of joinery where I am, with the tools I have or can borrow, is important. A lot of early woodworkers are in a similar place because the entry to the craft sometimes feels like looking up a mountain. Skills lessons should be accessible to everyone, not just those with money for a shop full of power tools.
@246trixie
@246trixie Год назад
@@KatieCottinghamabsolutely- people getting started dont need to see all the short cut fancy expensive machinery people use to make it seem more expensive to start than it really is. Wood is expensive enough these days without fancy tools. This is a fantastic video, thanks so much!
@mmusgrove
@mmusgrove 2 года назад
I didn't even catch it the first time, and I had to go back and make sure I saw it correctly. The South Park intro.outro is simply incredible. The entire video as usual was informative but that was epic. I watched the Harbor Freight hand plane video to be sure they didn't all have them and I was just missing them somehow. Ha!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Just started with them. Our animator is a talented and imaginative gentleman from Ukraine.
@mmusgrove
@mmusgrove 2 года назад
@@WorkshopCompanion I'll say! That was too good and even though I think SouthPark is *quite* crude, it is very funny, on spot, and that somehow changed my whole perspective watching these (for the better, to be explicit.) Not that I ever wouldn't - they're classic and among the best available :-) .
@ephemer7942
@ephemer7942 7 дней назад
You are awesome and a voice of reason and competence, thank you so much!
@geoffbrumpton8544
@geoffbrumpton8544 2 года назад
Keep up your good work and don’t change the way you present it.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Not planning on it. Thanks.
@colrodrick8784
@colrodrick8784 2 года назад
Well I bought one of those self centering jigs and I am so pleased that I did. I could have used one years ago. I haven't yet tried the loose tenon with it, but I will get around to. Thanks once again.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Glad to have been of help.
@kenbeiser4443
@kenbeiser4443 Год назад
Nick, pretty slick with the hammer handling like a baton, too. I might need another video on learning that. Thank you for informative videos.😊
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion Год назад
Most welcome.
@Tuxedo2680
@Tuxedo2680 10 месяцев назад
If you only have a few loose tenon joints to do, this method is fine. If you have a big project that will require dozens of joints or more, it's worth taking the time to build a custom jig to cut the mortises with a router. Building your own jigs is not expensive because in most cases they can be built from offcuts and simple hardware. As for the tenons, no jig is required. Those can be ripped on a tablesaw from lengths of hardwood stock, rounded over with a router and cut to length with a cross-cut sled. Or you can go the easy way and purchase them pre-cut: those have the advantage of having been dried to a very low humidity rate (like dowels) and therefore expand in the mortise when exposed to the moisture content of the wood glue thus making the joint even stronger. Those are inexpensive (as long as you stay away from the F brand tenons).
@theofarmmanager267
@theofarmmanager267 2 года назад
I’ve been a woodworker for a long time. I don’t know how many traditional M&T joints and dowel joints I’ve made over the years - and now I use the domino for most of my end grain to long grain joints. Yes, the machine is expensive - although much more so now than when I bought both the 500 and 700 machines perhaps 10 or 15 years ago. However, the time saved for a professional or even, as I am, an amateur always to do things efficiently and save precious time, means the repayment period is very calculable. The added advantage of the domino over traditional M&T joints for me now is that my shoulders will not take the strain of using the dedicated morticer very much. So, for large joints (say doors and I’m about to make 4 of them), I use the 700 machine and double the size by flipping the pieces over and thus getting mortises than are just less than twice the thickness of a standard domino mortise. I also have a table saw, a bandsaw and a track saw. Sure, I could do without one, or even all of them, if I wanted to but each can do different jobs. I have several chisels but could really get away with one or two. I’m no huge fan of the like green and gray people. Nowadays, I, sure you are paying a large premium for the brand name. But, isn’t that the case with cars? I can make a journey in a cheap, cheap car or a Range Rover. Both get me there but one does it in greater comfort.
@warrenwerks
@warrenwerks 2 года назад
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 I sure as hell have taken no sponsors or money from anyone as I have 10 subscribers, but I will say, the 80 hour weeks and multitude of completed projects I’ve done over the last year did pay for my domino and sawstop. Helps to drive a 17 year old vehicle too. If people put half the money they spend on cars into their passions it would be easy to buy these tools
@johnallen8680
@johnallen8680 2 года назад
Another great video from the man.. An alternative to an expensive domino machine for a weekend woodworker.. However, if you are a tradesman on a budget you could make do with dowels or a much more affordable bench morticer and tenon making jigs/methods.. One day Festool's world patent will lapse and affordable knock off domino machines will be as cheap as the biscuit joiner.. A biscuit joiner and commercially available metal biscuits could be another good Strength/Time/Cost option.
@mikecannon8179
@mikecannon8179 11 месяцев назад
First video I’ve seen of this guy and I love him so much already
@JimBloggins1
@JimBloggins1 2 года назад
I can say having a Domino cutter at my disposal is king for sure, however the business owns it so if it were just me, this would be a great start at earningenough to buy one!
@timort2260
@timort2260 2 года назад
awesome i might try this, you're videos are a joy to watch i really like the south park character of yourself for the intro and outro.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Thanks. Those wonderful animations are done in the Ukraine!
@bobwebberkc
@bobwebberkc 2 года назад
God knows how much you mean to woodworkers like me. Thanks Nick
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome.
@FlyinTrapezious
@FlyinTrapezious Год назад
Hi Nick, I used this technique after watching your video and it worked like a charm. I wanted to do something experimental and made some floating tenons out of Baltic Birch plywood.I did some destructive backyard testing with a sledge hammer .They seem to be stronger than solid wood, which is what I anticipated.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion Год назад
Interesting post; thanks for sharing. Commercial dominoes are made from compressed birch chips. The wood grain in the chips goes every which way, just like in commercial biscuits. This product is quite strong, so it makes sense that a plywood domino would be as well.
@carminelombardi9575
@carminelombardi9575 7 месяцев назад
Very late in my life, but for some reason I can't really explain, I want to learn how to work with wood, I've been watching many, many channels, but yours is the best, like wood, you are a natural. Many thanks. PS love your dog.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the kind words. And good luck.
@brb1050
@brb1050 11 месяцев назад
The one thing Festool’s “Domino” joiner has going for it is speed and repeatability of multiple sections. If you are working on production en masse, Festool. If you build a few things a year (most of us): Nick’s way makes way more sense.
@RG-ce5hj
@RG-ce5hj 2 года назад
Excellent tip! And I always enjoy the hammer spin..... I'm certain I'd hurt myself or break something if I tried that.😄
@stevevogt866
@stevevogt866 Год назад
I wish you were my shop class instructor. AWESOME!!
@Dandroid61
@Dandroid61 11 месяцев назад
You are a brilliant woodworker with a vast headful of knowledge about other stuff too. I really love your work. Thank you!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 11 месяцев назад
Most welcome.
@lloydhorton4290
@lloydhorton4290 9 месяцев назад
Liked that shortcut to domino joints.
@rfguy8499
@rfguy8499 2 года назад
I love your content and everything you have done for the Shopsmith community and the larger woodworking community in general, but I have to disagree on this one. You can clearly see significant drillbit runout/tearout in the mortise in the video. In order to have the maximum joint strength and glue strength you must have a tight fit between the opposing pieces (in this case a loose tenon and two mortises). Gaps will cause glue and joint failure. I suspect the finished result is not going to be as strong as you would like. JMO. I agree the Domino is just too expensive, but I finally bit the bullet and bought one myself and it is worth almost every penny because of how clean the mortises are, but more so because of how fast it is (probably 10x faster than what you showed here). Bottomline is the Domino is meant to be a productivity enhancement tool and not every woodworker needs it.
@talonk3
@talonk3 2 года назад
Or you could just use the doweling jig. 😂😂😂. No one will know what you use between those two boards.
@rfguy8499
@rfguy8499 2 года назад
@@talonk3 Doweling jigs work great and I still have my Jessem Dowel Jig. Only problem is they are a lot slower than the Domino. This was my point...not everyone needs a Domino but unfortunately FOMO causes a lot of people to either buy a Domino or gripe about it while trying to find cheaper solutions. The Lamello Zeta P2 biscuit jointer is like 2x the cost of a Domino but I don't see woodworkers online trying to recreate one, but I see so many of these attempts to recreate a Domino and my question is WHY???
@Uswesi1527
@Uswesi1527 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely simple, but magnificent knowledge. Thanks
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 10 месяцев назад
Most welcome.
@DessieTots
@DessieTots 2 года назад
Thank you for this video. It really brought a smile 😃.
@f.d.6667
@f.d.6667 2 года назад
I totally love the South Park style intro!
@ApexWoodworks
@ApexWoodworks 6 месяцев назад
I really liked your folksy, no nonsense approach to making this time-proven joint. My only suggestion is to use a chisel toclear out the path between drill bit holes rather than the drill itself. That wy there'll be much less chance of overly misshaping the mortise. Again, this is a great video.
@carlmclelland7624
@carlmclelland7624 2 года назад
Ahhh, yet another use for my milling machine. Now to build a jig for the end-bores. Thanks, Nick..., here comes some sawdust!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
We have an old Bridgeport, and it's amazing how useful they are for precision drilling in wood.
@BikeJackass
@BikeJackass Год назад
I built my first piece of furniture, a red oak KS bed from rough cut kiln dried lumber, lumber costs just $360 and the money I saved paid for the tools; 13” planer, table saw, routers, track saw, tile saw for inset roof slates. I plunge cut mortices using a template made from 1/2” ply, cut free tenons using roundover bit, it looks awesome and I think it would support the weight of a pickup truck 😂
@chriskeeble
@chriskeeble 2 года назад
Nick. You're the man. Love ya. 🙂
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Thanks.
@mortyrickerson6322
@mortyrickerson6322 2 года назад
Preoccupation with fractions haha Thanks for sharing the knowledge
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome.
@EricHonaker
@EricHonaker 2 года назад
That looks way easier than trying to follow any of the "homemade domino joiner" videos. Is there a big increase in stability over just a pair of dowels?
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
If by "stability" you mean strength, then not likely. An informal test we did indicated that dowel joints were stronger. But dowels don't allow you to make slight adjustments as you glue up.
@sk13ppy
@sk13ppy 6 месяцев назад
Awesome. Thank you very much! A guy has been trying to get me to use nails to join the sides of my old style tool box that I want to make. Perhaps he doesn't know about loose tenons! A glued loose tenon will be stronger than nails.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 6 месяцев назад
In the case of a tool box, yes. But you might also want to consider regular mortises-and-tenons, finger joints, and dovetail joints.
@achardjc
@achardjc 2 года назад
Thanks for the loose tenon tip. I just bought a self centering dowel jig so I can try this. You must be a South Park fan too. Love the intro.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome -- and yes, Matt Stone and Trey Parker are two of my heroes.
@JasonSipe16
@JasonSipe16 Год назад
Nick, this is a really nice quick way to do a diy domino. Hope you'll check out my Triton doweling joiner video and see we think about that-- would love to know if you've ever tried one of those joiners.
@ehRalph
@ehRalph 2 года назад
I’ve been considering getting a doweling jig for quite a while. Thanks
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome. Get a good one -- see our recommendation in the description.
@rhuynh
@rhuynh 2 года назад
This. Is. BRILLIANT! Thank you for sharing this tip!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome
@zapa1pnt
@zapa1pnt Год назад
With a router table ( purchased or home made not withstanding ) it would be easy enough, to round over the edges, of a long length of wood, of the right dimensions, to create a stock of dominoes.
@mheermance
@mheermance 9 месяцев назад
You win, I subscribed! BTW Merry Christmas.
@52memor
@52memor 2 года назад
I am in AWE !!!!! thanks Nick
@aaudain1
@aaudain1 2 года назад
Those jig are good I have one
@hablemostorah3086
@hablemostorah3086 Год назад
Domino is a proudly festool thing. "Spline" is the term for this video. Tenon is the male side of the same piece of wood you are joining. A Domino is not only for joinery but is highly precise for alignment. And you don't need a second mortgage to but one, you can actually get one easy, just brew your own coffee for a year, save, and you'll have enough to buy you one and most likely some extra cash.
@Slayerformayor1983
@Slayerformayor1983 10 месяцев назад
Also have to account for speed. The domino is a joy to use. It’s fast AND simple, reducing much of the calculation and setup involved in implementing floating tenon joinery. This can’t be ignored. Nothing wrong with jigging things out, but good lord, it can be miserable power drilling a table's worth of dominos or dowels.
@actionjksn
@actionjksn 4 месяца назад
I think it's possible to make a router jig with mostly plywood that would just hog the joint out really fast and precise. I can't wait for the patent to expire.
@lifegpt
@lifegpt 9 месяцев назад
I've often thought there must be a way of using a jig like this for dominoes and you have just clarified exactly what I suspected, there is. Makes me think is there a way of making that jig move wile clamped like a sliding section
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 2 года назад
If you are so inclined... Plenty of router jigs online too.. 😎👍☘🍺
@terrywong7879
@terrywong7879 6 месяцев назад
Great dowel joinery!!!!!
@andrewbrown8148
@andrewbrown8148 2 года назад
Great video~! I've been looking for an easy way to do this with the router for the particular project I'm working on, but this looks much easier~!! I've had one of these jigs for years since I began woodworking. Thanks for sharing this~!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome.
@fabiomerlin8820
@fabiomerlin8820 Месяц назад
Perfect idea. Thanks
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion Месяц назад
Most welcome.
@kellyaquinastom
@kellyaquinastom 9 месяцев назад
Saw someone pull the stock for the domino through a vice grip to give it texture.
@jessetaylor7716
@jessetaylor7716 8 месяцев назад
wow I like this guy 👍
@nicholasmanovich4330
@nicholasmanovich4330 11 месяцев назад
Hah....I was just fantasizing about having a domino....so glad I watched this first...thank you !!!!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 11 месяцев назад
Most welcome. But there is one thing you should know. Dominoes, like biscuits, are made from compressed birch fibers. When you apply a water-based glue, they swell to fill the mortises so you always get a good fit. This works, but in order to work just as well, you have to have a good fit.
@MrDaneBrammage
@MrDaneBrammage 10 месяцев назад
Or just use dowels. Closely-spaced dowels have more glue area than floating tenons and are less work.
@testingdpatience9203
@testingdpatience9203 6 месяцев назад
Well if you were to do thst the video would end as soon as you brought out the dowling jig. Its helpfull to people who want to learn to do these things and explore different types of joinery.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 2 года назад
Brilliant, Nick! 😃 Thanks a lot for the tip!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Most welcome.
@lucianomunoz4202
@lucianomunoz4202 Год назад
Thanks for making simple and fun . Your a funny guy ! Love it!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion Год назад
Thanks.
@SamWanamaker1
@SamWanamaker1 2 года назад
Yes a domino is expensive, but you get what you pay for. Quick and clean mortises. Not that having alternatives is bad, but advertising this as a viable alternative I don’t know. Probably takes 30 minutes to make one joint start to finish versus 10 seconds with domino. Time = money.
@fromika
@fromika 11 месяцев назад
perfect, and now check the quality and something that is even more important - time! With Domino it will take 4 secs.
@Jpres
@Jpres Год назад
Thanks for the video. Loved your outro with the south park art style. 😆
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion Год назад
Most welcome and thanks for saying.
@SawdustmakerLori
@SawdustmakerLori 2 года назад
Love your video's and sense of humor!!! You're a wealth of knowledge and a great instructor. Always love your idea/tips. Missed your pretty dog on this video!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Bella was there behind the workbench, pushing a frisbee in the backs of my knees.
@krenwregget7667
@krenwregget7667 2 года назад
good video but I almost always prefer dowels to dominos because of the extra effort in making the holes and dominos themselves. I also find joints with dowels to be more precise and the process is much faster. I can almost hand cut a mortise and tenon joint in the time it takes create a domino and cut the hole.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
I agree with you for the most part, but loose tenons have their place in good craftsmanship. The amount of gluing surface surpasses what you can get with a dowel or a biscuit, and the joint is stronger for it.
@SenselessUsername
@SenselessUsername 2 года назад
@@WorkshopCompanion We can work out the exact surface offered by both joints: A domino's two rounded ends adds up to exactly one dowel. Circumference of a circle is 3.14x diameter, so the flat sides each have about the surface of a dowel; on balance a typical domino has the surface of roughly three dowels... Thus the loose tenon/domino has the same glue surface as three dowels BUT it has the cross-section of about six dowels, so should be harder to snap off I think?
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
@@SenselessUsername Impressive figuring. By the same logic, it should also be more resistant to racking stresses.
@krenwregget7667
@krenwregget7667 2 года назад
@@WorkshopCompanion I completely agree that loose tenons have a place but if I'm building something and just want a quick way to butt-join a couple pieces of wood together, using my dowel jig is usually the fastest.
@krenwregget7667
@krenwregget7667 2 года назад
@@SenselessUsername then a mortise and tenon would be superior even to that because it's squared corners offer a slight bit more gluing surface and the fit is usually tighter, resulting in easier clamping.
@ashutoshsrivastava303
@ashutoshsrivastava303 Год назад
I bought a self centering jig for dowel and have been using it. Just wondering if dominos would be stronger than just putting more dowel pins. For the case you showed, I feel 2 dowel pins should have plenty strength. For connecting boards together, I can just put more pins. It takes more time but since I am doing for a hobby, it should be ok. I am seriously considering grizzly dowel jointer which is just 100 bucks. I need to check how stable that thing is.
@mindovrmatter33
@mindovrmatter33 Год назад
Just curious if there is a significant advantage to the diy domino over two dowels? Seems like a lot of effort for not much gain
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion Год назад
The only useful difference I see is the ability to shift the 2 pieces your gluing up a little. Dominos give you the ability to do some adjusting to the left and right where dowels require a tight fit for a good joint. - Travis
@farhadfadayi7389
@farhadfadayi7389 9 месяцев назад
thanks for great video. very informative.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 9 месяцев назад
Most welcome.
@DennisCochransr
@DennisCochransr 2 года назад
Like this teaching method!!!
@melodywilson5255
@melodywilson5255 2 года назад
That is an amazing trick! I'm going to try that out in the morning!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Good luck!
@bobbuchanan8466
@bobbuchanan8466 2 года назад
I found this easy to do using the Shopsmith horizontal boring feature. It work great since I don’t have a dowel jig.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
I can see that it would. Furthermore, you could use Forstner bits on the Shopsmith and get a nice flat bottom to the mortise. And you could easily switch to an end mill or router bit to get good clean sides. Hard to do with just a doweling jig.
@ahmedalrawie706
@ahmedalrawie706 9 месяцев назад
Great, thank you, sir!
@andresilva8444
@andresilva8444 10 месяцев назад
You're like the Bob Ross of woodworking and I love it. Could I just have made the joint with 3 dowels instead? Always found the domino to be overcomplicating for very little benefit.
@jasondoust4935
@jasondoust4935 2 года назад
Since I've left education, I don't have access to a wood room with among other nice things, a lovely branded semi automatic floating tenon mortice cutter anymore. (Well, unless I ask, but I've got a deck to rebuild first.) I've got some shelves to build for my sister's new kitchen, and was thinking that I'd do the same thing with the dowelling jig and a trim router with a guide. Now that I think about it, maybe even the drill press and a spiral upcut bit. All of which, are paid for! Or I could use my mill and make a vertical holding jig... Thanks again, Nick! You've got me thinking... Now, back to the damned deck calculations!
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Glad we could cloud things up...;-)
@Renegator1
@Renegator1 11 месяцев назад
This is very cool, but the trade off is time. I have made mortise and loose tenons with jigs and different power tools. I can afford a domino and got one because it does in 10 seconds what you did in in many minutes. That adds up.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 10 месяцев назад
For some. Others have the time. Either way, it's good to have options.
@Renegator1
@Renegator1 10 месяцев назад
I agree 100%.
@Renegator1
@Renegator1 10 месяцев назад
By the way, I did enjoy making a couple of jigs for cutting the mortise for loose tenons.
@woodshopnerdery
@woodshopnerdery 2 года назад
Great video, well done 👍
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Thanks.
@gsilcoful
@gsilcoful 2 года назад
Thanks. You're the best.
@arth.4196
@arth.4196 2 года назад
Like old school techniques Great Craftsman 👍 👌 😀 😎 😄 🙌
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Thanks.
@dkheaton
@dkheaton Год назад
Thank you for the video. I would like to buy that Task Dowling jig but it looks like it is no longer available. There are others but I do not know if they are as good as the Task or not. Any ideas?
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion Год назад
It's available through Woodcraft.
@efrinduarte4767
@efrinduarte4767 2 года назад
Love the title animation! looks really good and is pretty funny 😂
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Thanks.
@jamespacker2904
@jamespacker2904 11 месяцев назад
Great video! What's the advantage of this over just using two dowel pins? I can't believe there is much of a strength difference once it's all glued together.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 11 месяцев назад
Dowel joints are extremely strong and reasonably easy to make if you have a doweling jig. This is similar. Sometimes it's just good to have choices.
@moogoomoogoo5990
@moogoomoogoo5990 2 года назад
Great advice
@SUBtrauma
@SUBtrauma 3 месяца назад
Festool patent on the domino expires this year! can't wait to get my hands on one for waaaaay less than the festool tax.
@alastairchestnutt6416
@alastairchestnutt6416 2 года назад
Great video. Thanks
@dbnoho
@dbnoho 2 года назад
I invested in rocklers beadlock system. So far, it’s been amazing. However. I had to invest in an entire system that cost a few bucks. But now I make my own tenons. I need to invest in better clamps as they slide from time to time and I lose my mind. However, had I watched this video before, I’d still recommend the beadlock system as it works every well, but it’d be nice to know I could have made tenons with things I already owned.
@jsporish
@jsporish 2 года назад
As usual Nick very informative and super helpful. A great cost savings, the only use I could see for the domino is if you are doing a lot of tenons and time is money?
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 2 года назад
Full disclosure -- I have zero experience with a domino joiner, I've only ever made loose tenons using this method. So I can't say how much time one could save with dedicated tooling. But it would have to be an enormous amount of time to justify the expenditure.
@bladee_enjoyer540
@bladee_enjoyer540 2 года назад
@@WorkshopCompanion It's not just time, the domino will be much more accurate as well. And it enables you use floating tenons where otherwise it would be too time consuming and too difficult. For example, cabinet boxes and drawer boxes. You might think there's no point in using it for that, screws are just fine for cabinet boxes. But using the domino only takes a few extra minutes, and it makes your assembly so much easier since you don't need to fumble with clamps to get the box aligned while stapling/screwing it together.
@cornpop7805
@cornpop7805 9 месяцев назад
Back in my day, men had outies, and women had innies. Of course, this was back when the new fangled domino joint was called joint loose tenon joint.
@BC5391
@BC5391 9 месяцев назад
love it
@MR-yp7mu
@MR-yp7mu 10 месяцев назад
It would make sense to make multiple long pieces with a router and cut them to individual tenons so you are not making a tenon for each joint.
@phirintra
@phirintra Год назад
Wow thank you for the trick
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion Год назад
Most welcome.
@somebodypeculiar
@somebodypeculiar 11 месяцев назад
Rather than rounding the insert after cutting to length, it seems more efficient to round a long piece, then cut to length. Much easier to use a router - better yet, a router in a router table! - on long pieces.
@papparocket
@papparocket 11 месяцев назад
Just using dowels is so much easier that I just don't see the advantage of going to the extra effort or expense of loose-tenon joint. And if you need more strength, then use more dowels. BTW, is there a "rule" for the minimum spacing between dowels and between the edges of the boards and the first/last dowel to maximize the strength of the joint?
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 11 месяцев назад
If you make the spacing of the dowels a little less than half their circumference, there will actually be more gluing surface than a mortise-and-tenon joint. To make the math simpler, substitute "3" for pi (3.1416). Just to refresh your high school geometry, the circumference of a circle is pi times the diameter. If you're using 3/8" diameter dowels, 3 times 3/8" is 1-1/8", half of which is 9/16". Space the dowels 1/2" apart, and the joint should be close in strength to a mortise-and-tenon. That only leaves 1/8" between the dowels, but that is doable with a good doweling jig.
@eevanskiteboards
@eevanskiteboards Год назад
Great video
@brownstonecustomcabinetry5309
@brownstonecustomcabinetry5309 2 года назад
I mean you can always replace money with talent and time but what fun would that be.
@edwardliu1154
@edwardliu1154 Год назад
nice demonstration. I think the beadlock system sold by rockler does something similar but easier for beginners. I tried it once (original version) but the beadlock tenons were pricey and my mortises never came out very nice. Maybe my technique or clamping was off. I'm sticking with dowel jigs right now.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion Год назад
I'm always amazed at how many ways there are to join wood. But I agree with you about dowels; simpler may not always be better, but it's usually sufficient.
@superbear617
@superbear617 7 месяцев назад
Excellent video. A Q: In what circumstances would a floating tenon be preferred over two dowels? It seems to me that both would be quite strong. Thank you.
@WorkshopCompanion
@WorkshopCompanion 7 месяцев назад
In some cases, it might increase the gluing surface. But for the most part, it's simply an alternative.
@Micro-Moo
@Micro-Moo Год назад
Thank you for this video. I've watched it with a particular interest. I have a similar kind of dowel jig and was thinking about a similar way of making a domino joint. No problem at all to achieve that. I have only one concern: why would I bother to make an additional effort? What would be the benefit compared to a pair of dowels (or, say, 3 dowels)? Is it only the looseness helping to adjust the joint before clamping? Can that looseness compromise the stability of construction? Thank you!
@johnsrabe
@johnsrabe 2 года назад
By the way, as an affianado of classical lute music, I love listening to Dowling jigs! (Sorry.)
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