I was inspired by your Mogami diy speaker cable video to make my own speaker cables to replace Audioquest Rocket 88 cables. I realized i couldn't afford the Mogami at $5 a ft. and had heard good things about the Canare 4S11. I believe it was only $1.49 a ft. I followed your instructions, and they turned out great. Big sound improvement over the Audioquest cables I paid $350 for. Thanks!
@@robertongjunco4121 I do like the 4s11 better than the Rocket 88. The 88's seem a little harsh and sibilant compared to the 4s11, which is still detailed and warm.
@@robertnitsche8410 Thanks for your reply. I am now very curious. I have the rocket 88s . Imaging and the highs are quite to my liking but lacking a little bit of bass.
I made a 3.5m pair of cables for the front speakers in my home cinema system over the weekend using Canare 4S11 following this guide. The new cables replaced some relatively cheap bi-amp cables I'd had for several years so I made them up with 4 banana plugs at each end. The difference in sound quality is amazing - it's the closest I've heard to hifi sound from an AV amp and the cables aren't even run in yet. I'll definitely be making up a couple of sets of RCA cables using info from your other guides, so thanks!
I received the Canare cables a guy built for me. I’m so happy I can’t tell you. I decided to compliment my new cables with the same jumper cables linking my binding posts. I really wasn’t sure my vintage mid fi system was capable. I was considering upgrading my system, not any more! So much more sonic joy it’s unbelievable. The Canare 4s11 have blown me away. VERY Happy.
Hey man. I just want to thank you for your valuable advices. I made the Canare version of speaker cables after seeing this video. I am overwhelmed of the improvement. Hands down one of the biggest upgrades i have ever made. I run Focal Aria 948 with them. (Rega Planar+AT VM740ML,REGA MM MK3, Primaluna Prologue Premium Preamp and Ayon Audio 300b with s32b valves). I had QED XT40 till now( i wasnt a "cable believer"). The new cabels really transfomed the sound. I have now more of everything. The sound is really crisp, more revealing with exetremly tight deep low end. It is crazy that a cable swap can do this. Thank you again and i wish you all the good!
Good morning, I just wanted to check in and say thanks for all the information and inspiration: I made these cables for my VERY beginner hifi setup(ProJect Debut Carbon Evo turntable into a Fosi Audio Phono Box X2 preamp, Integra DTR 30.5 avr & Integra ADM 2.1 amp running Klipsch 4.5 towers) and was stunned at the improvement...plus they look fantastic. The only thing I did differently was wear gloves when handling the bare conductors to keep skin oils off the copper. I'll be making power cables next.
Thank you for your very informative tutorial. I've just made my first custom cables(Monoprice 12AWG Access Series ) based on your instructions and it came out pretty good..and my speakers sound soo much better.. Now that I know how to make them.. I will experiment with the Canare series next..
Excellent video. I made these cables over the weekend using your video as a guide and they sound great. Definite upgrade sonically and visually from the old Monster Cable I was using. Thanks for the excellent tutorial.
Just assembled these cables. The bass frequency is outstanding. I can't thank you enough I'm really enjoying my speakers once again. For any people who might have reservations about these cables just buy them you'll be very happy the bass extension is significant. Thanks
I was literally looking everywhere for a decent guide on how to make a good quality cables for my home theater/stereo system! Thank you, amazing video and guide!
@@gavriushka If you decide to do these cables you would need to connect together red & pink and white & off-white wires. Not the way shown in this video. That's wrong way of doing it. Just read Wikipedia what is a Star-Quad cable connection.
@@IliyaOsnovikov in this case it doesn’t matter, as it’s not an electronic cable. Either of those specific conductors are identical to each other. So it doesn’t matter which ones you put together, as long as one end matches the other. Color is there just for your own reference and so you don’t accidentally reverse polarities on one end vs the other. StarQuad reference in this case means it’s twisted inside in a star pattern, and quad means 4 conductors.
@@gavriushka Why doesn't it matter? The whole idea of the Star-Quad configuration means the connection together of the opposite ends of that "star" pattern in a cable. That creates a symmetry of magnetic fields that helps reducing cable's electromagnetic noise emission and also improves electromagnetic noise rejection. Otherwise the Star-Quad reference is just meaningless. Sure, that configuration is more beneficial for some low level signal cables like microphone cables. But it has some merrits for speaker cables as well.
I have been using analysis plus 9 on my system for 10 years. After he turned green, he found a replacement. Stumbled upon Canare 4s11. Canare 4s11 sounds better. now it works on my system.
Hello there :) I have been used for a while this speaker cables with audioquest banana plugs. I can tell you just one thing... don't spend your time ( and money ) to find a perfect cable's... spend your time to listen music... Great video and great presentation how to do 👌👏
We Played a Quality High Def Classical Recording BD-ROM -- Once with My Friends $240 (Purchased) Mains Cables Installed -- and then with My Home-Made $22 Speaker Cables Installed. We were Both familiar with the Classical Recording, having listened to it 'Live' At The Boston Symphony. WE FOUND "NO DIFFERENCE". My System is a Marantz A/V with 9 Klipsch Speakers.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Please note AVRs are not the best way to discern the difference in sound quality between the cables. No audiophile or HiFi manufacturers has AVR as their reference component.
I did this speaker cable out of curiosity. I owned an high end cable and was not convinced at first. I used KLEI bananas on mine. What the heck is this cable ? The differences are so huge i don't understand how it can be ! More details, more control, more depth, more air. I can't stop listening to my system now ! (Usher audio be-10, Sanders amps and preamp, innuos zenmini mk3 server, Burson reference DAC). Thanks for this video and advice !
Your first video inspired me to go on a cable build, I originally had Mogami 3104s that I bought from a company that builds and sells them. I decided to give 4S11s a try instead. The Canares felt a bit more well rounded, bass was more defined, but I did find them to be a little more closed in and lacking that sparkle that the 3104s had. The major drawback with the 3104s, something that you've mentioned is the bass. The bass was real boomy and I found myself going back to the Canares for that reason. I read/heard some interesting information on the mogami 3103s as being more defined in bass but still having the same sonic signature as the 3104s. It didn't make any sense to me since it's the same cable as the 3104s just 50% less of it. Sure enough, using the same terminations as the Canares, I ran them with my system and the bass boominess was gone. The bass and overall presentation was like the Canares but more extended - it seemed like a sweet spot between the 4S11s and 3104s. I would encourage you to try them out, you might be surprised by the result.
Well In my system 3103 (12 awg)the bass is tight that I can feel in the chest mids are ok but the highs are bright and forward maybe my speakers ( b&w from 1998) and not the cables. Im using canare 4s8 (13 awg) less bass better mids than 3103 but highs roll off. Next i ll try 4s11 (11 awg) coming on Friday . Another try could be the coaxial Mogami 3082 this is almost 14 awg
@@luislunacortez1929 The 4S11s may be a good fit for your B&Ws, I had a pair prior to going with dynaudio excite x18s. I do regret not trying out the 4S11s with the B&Ws while I had them as the speakers to my ears had fatiguing/bright moments when paired with the 3104s. The x18s are quite neutral but I did find that the 4S11s took away the sparkle and made the presentation sound a bit narrow and dull. After struggling to tame brightness with the B&Ws I didn't expect to missing the top end extension, but fortunately with the x18s and 3103s I'm getting the best of both worlds. Good luck!
Hi. I just bought Mogami 3104 and Canari 4S11 cables from a company called Markertek , they sell in bulk 18' and 20' respectively shipping was very fast, the only thing was the mogami diameter seemed to be not as big as what you show.. I could be wrong.. I paid total $149 free shipping..The most I've spent on "good cables" was about $400
@@Tharbamar I completed making these cables and thank you for inspiring me with your video. This savings along with the time spent making them was pure fun!
I used viborg bananas (rhodium version) on duelund cable. When I took them off and tied the bare wire the sound quality improved drastically. It's like someone took off 10 curtains.
Awesome Builds, thanks for Sharing. I've always thought to Build my Own Speaker cable, saving me Thousands, your Video's help us out, not so Hard After All. I'm still Learning my Yamaha RX- A2030 the Reason I bought this, was I still have S-Video Connections in my system. I have a Laser Player, yep the old Digital Movie format that Started it all , I haven't thrown out any of those Movie's and my Super VHS Player, yep still have and the movies to go along with. I wish these Stereo Component companies didn't throw away these connections, they did, making us buy New Equipment and making us consider throwing out our old movies. I also still have my tape recorder, excellent Reviews, a pretty nice recorder. Your System is pretty impressive the Cable's sounded really good, thanks for sharing
Watched almost all your video and learned lots of professional acknowledgment from you! Love your video and just bought SX11 too! Hope I can get the cable as I need it to plug into SX11 and Quad S2! I am happy to pay for the Fedex or DHL courier! I am in Singapore!Thanks lot!
Happy new year! Thank you very much for another interesting and entertaining "how to" video. You did animate me with all your videos to start to make my own cables, too.
Nice job on the cables...don't know if sound demo really does much as it only demos sound quality of the device the person is watching the video on... nice set up though... cheers 😎👍
I think you have to pair together the red and red clear as positive and the white and withe clear as a negative to get the capacitance specified in the table , please see the 4s11 specs that was designed in that way to work . "Capacitance between twin red and twin white conductors" i think you have to redo your cables to work as intended but the maker. Happy New Year. Please let me know if I'm right.
Yes I did notice that, this is my more than 10th pair of 4S11 speaker cables I made, I tried different paring and there is no difference in sound, happy new year!
I think somebody F@cked up and trying to recover from their mistake with an excuse. I'm pretty sure Tharbamar never mentioned that there was no difference in sound in previous videos. If Canare says do it a certain way why would an "audiophile" do it differently... just saying
@@luislunacortez1929 I know, I watched the whole video. I specifically was talking about his previous videos on making wires... but by that time he realized the mistake after this video was made he didn't want to redo the whole video and wires, that's why he put the banner on the video edited in post saying what he said. The previous videos of him making wires NEVER said Canare suggest to do it a certain way which is the right way. Thank God you gave us the right info. How can I honestly trust his reviews on speakers/amps, etc anything in his home audio, even the sound sample at the end of these videos, if his wiring is off and he knows it's off but doesn't think it matters. I read the video banner but didn't think much of it BUT after you made it clear that what he did was flawed then I really understood what was going on.. kudos to you.
excellent video and choice. everyone should really at least have a pair of this cable. despite long burn in.. it makes music sounds like music and only a few cable does that
My 3/4" heat shrink I bought from the link is way larger than what you have there. I need to order a different size. (1/2") Edit: I went for it. Need cables now. It does work, but after all the heat, I melted the mylar. My favorite part has been the most trouble. You might want to correct your link, and warn of not only melting mylar, but it frays if you don't know what your doing, putting it on. I figured it out, but as they say...practice first. I didn't.
Excellent video! To my surprise I see you using jumper plates between your binding posts. Haven't seen one person say to use those, usually it's"never use them" and use wire jumpers or bi-wire. Did those come stock with the speakers or are those a specialty purchase? Keep up the good work!
Great work my brother from another country! What size shrink wrap goes over the banana plug? BTW - your DYI tutorials are excellent. Please do more. What is the national dish of your country? Adobo?
Congrats on another great video. Just wondering why no one has mentioned the Canare 4S11 and it’s much better PE insulation around the conductors themselves (which add to a better sound) with PVC as the outer jacket. The Mogami cables have PVC as insulation on the wire and also the outer jacket which is a lower grade speaker cable for that matter. It’s all about the insulation around the speaker, conductors themselves.
I followed your links here and bought all the stuff to make them. I’m not a huge believer that the sound quality will be any different, but i guess I’ll find out for myself soon ! Nonetheless, they are great lookin cables so I’m happy already =)
Great video. Hint: you could sand the wire part that go inside (400 sanding paper) before mounting into the banana plugs. This would help unleash the copper pure properties. You should wear gloves to avoid adding skin material to the copper. Skin material can damage the copper over time. Installing cables is the most critical part of the cable assembly.
Thanks so much Tabhamar for your clear and honest explainations, i always enjoy see your vidéos, and most of the time i'm agree with you for the hifi component choice you make. 👏👏😉
One thing I keep thinking about- how would the screw-on banana plug collars add resistance to the cable? It doesn't make sense but I'm certainly open to the fact that I'm totally missing something
Hey, nice video! I've watched one of your videos where you were DYI'ing a Mogami cable. Apparently 4S11 are significantly cheaper, yet still perform great. Am I missing something?
Thanks a lot for sharing this with us, this is such a money saver! Can you also recommend a good quality cable for subwoofers? Can I use this? Big thanks in advance!
@tharbamar excellent videos on making your own speaker and RCA cables.....keep up the amazing videos. QUESTION: seems like the Viborg Plugs are no longer available, **What other plugs would you recommend and share the link? and are there any 90-degree plugs you recommend for behind the amp inside a cabinet?
Have you looked at Gr Research tube connectors? Very similar to your ends on the cable but does not use the standard 5 way binding posts on the speaker. Uses a very simple interface at the speaker.
Happy New Year I enjoy all of your videos. Last week I made my own speaker cables 4 x 3 meter lengths using Canare 4S11 cables and Nakamichi plugs. My question how long does burn in take? I live the new cables.
Bonjour, Merci pour cette vidéo intéressante. Quel modèle je dois utiliser pour mes Focal aria 926 : Canare 4S8 ou canare 4S11 La longueur du câble est de 1.75 mètre
Maybe it's been covered, but have you noticed a burn-in time for these Canare's? I just put together a 2nd system (which was the same as my original 1st tube hybrid system) and I remember it as a kind of a tubey sound back then. 20+ yrs later, I've revisited that system with the Canare 4S11. I was surprised to not be hearing the tubiness that I remembered (now I'm also using better interconnects), but with the new Canare's, initially, I'm hearing a much wider soundstage. I've read of a 200 - 400 hr burn-in for these to really sing. In your experience, are there ranges of frequancies that improve with burn-in? Mogami vs Canare, dependent on or favor SS over tube? Good Work~
@@Tharbamar what is physically happening with the conductors during burn in? My instinct is to dismiss the notion of it, but I learn new things all the time
Another fun and enjoyable video @Tharbamar, keep it up! Cant believe all the hate in the comments, good golly.. A question regarding Diamond 225, im still pursuing making them sound their best. I have done the spacer mod and replaced the jumpers with a 14awg cable, both helped with clarity a little bit, as i find the Diamonds 225 are not by nature amazingly speedy/clear, but have a lush and weighty body that i enjoy. What wire than do you think for Diamonds, Canare 4s11 or Mogami 3103? Really appreciate your view since you have a lot of experience with all of these. Greets from Sweden!
@@Tharbamar Thanks again, i guess its worth testing out. I even heard good things about some Belden cables. Have just replaced RCAs with them and it sounds promissing.
I was wondering is soldering better than those screw down terminals? I would think that the high heat from soldering could possibly damage the copper cable so maybe the terminals would be better.
Raw is in theory best but you can short out your amp if you cross wires...... I don't mind with my gear. But if you have expensive gear.....Probably best to keep those connections clean as you can.
i don't get it. He twists a red and white together, so how do you identify that exact par at the other end? Why not combine whites together as well as the reds? You'd have to do that if making a bi-wire set, no?
hello i am watching your videos with your liking i need your speaker wiring advice Are soft balanced musical vocals suitable for canere 4s11 for clear clean presentation or would you recommend another cable stay healthy
I’m looking into this trying to decide if I should use 10awg or 4S11 not much on YT concerning that topic but nevertheless beautiful cables you have made there.
Is it solid core or multi Strand cable. Not really making your own cable not sure what the difference is what you're doing. I wouldn't wind the cable twist it keep it straight you only wind the Neutral and positive at a 45-degree off angle but winding the strands like that at the end is causing it to increase its inductance. And when putting your shrink wrap make sure it's not tight you need movement in the cable putting the cap on on the banana plug is not going to add resistance. Happy New Year
Hello, the Canare 4S11 on the video is a quad star cable construction if I understand correctly. When making the cable, why did you connect adjacent wires, i.e. red and white for one pole, instead of connecting red and light red for the + pole and white and light white for the minus pole? Isn't that the wrong connection for the quad star cable construction? With the connection 1-3 and 2-4, the property of the EMI /RF protection construction and the advantage of the quad star construction is not lost if I understand correctly. Can you explain to me if I made a mistake somewhere or if misunderstood cable manufacturer ? I can confirm that on my system the quad star connection 1-3 and 2-4 sounds totally different (dynamic, spacious, richer) than the 1-2 and 3-4 connections. Thank you
Hi, thanks for the comment, I’ve been using 4S11 cable for almost 20 years, it doesn’t matter how you connect them there is no difference in sound quality, I have shared and shown to many audio people with blind demos and no one has ever heard the differences, thanks
Thanks for the prompt reply. I try all the combinations and each one gives me a different result. Yes, the combination of 1-2 and 3-4 is somehow calmer, star quad 1-3, 2-4 is dynamic and powerful, wider space, and bi wiring is some kind direct. Therefore, different connections give different capacitance according to the manufacturer's website. It is NOT possible to get the same sound in every connection.. Also, if the cables are not connected in a star quad scheme, then the EMI / RF protection does not work if that means the same to you. Either way for some reason you don't hear the difference or I have a problem in my system that causes the sound to change. My speakers are Canton ERGO 695DC 2x300W at 4ohm. and Primare I35 Prisma. Do you have any advice? @@Tharbamar
I've been considering the 4s11 for a long time, but yesterday I finally decided to opt for the Belden 5T00UP 10 Gauge from Bluejeans. Have you heard the Belden or can you offer any comparisons?
At 14:14 in your video, does both screws make contact with the bare wire? You should also let your viewers know that if you intend to bi-wire, the 2 reds need to be together (+) and the 2 whites (-) together as well - at both ends of the cable. Thanks.
Hello, I have been following your videos on speaker cables with interest for a long time and now the time has come to make my own. Because of the shape of my room, I need to build a cable that is 32 feet long. Can I use Canare with 15AWG or better Mogami with 12AWG? Thank you for your videos and your response.
