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In this video we make some special forming dies to create a new sheet metal bearing shield. This part protects the lower band wheel bearings for the Marvel Series 8 Band saw I recently got. The dies form an upset in the sheet metal then allow me to use the die itself as a hammer form to bend a ninety degree lip on the bearing shield. Material for the die is 6061 with a steel top clamp and the material for the shield itself is cold rolled steel .035 thick.

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@billlee5307
@billlee5307 7 лет назад
Thanks Tom for a year of interesting, informative and just plain fun videos! Best wishes to you and your family!
@craignicholson505
@craignicholson505 7 лет назад
so simple but so much brains behind it Tom this is why u need to be on RU-vid to show how to do it right
@johnalexander2349
@johnalexander2349 7 лет назад
It's videos like these that remind us just what's possible using only the tools we have and a bit of knowledge and ingenuity. As always, thanks, they're inspiring.
@jmwarden1
@jmwarden1 7 лет назад
Tom, that was very educational and a neat way to make a bearing shield. Thanks for your great video's, I have learned a lot from them, even at 73.
@esoomreltna
@esoomreltna 7 лет назад
Tom, Marvelous! You REALLY know how to do everything!! Thanks for the great video. Eric
@shanek6582
@shanek6582 7 лет назад
That's a badass hole punch.
@davidmicheletti6292
@davidmicheletti6292 7 лет назад
I think what I love about your show is just how much care an attention you put into every project you do. Your group of other you tube machinists friends leave me in awe. I just I would have to say I've been Awesomeized,
@moh5463
@moh5463 3 года назад
Fonctional art. I have been watching your channel for years, you never cease to amaze me. Your are an inspiration to mankind. Respect.
@Bookerb2004
@Bookerb2004 7 лет назад
What a treat... It's never the product, it's always about how you get there, Happy New Year Tom & Fam
@63256325N
@63256325N 7 лет назад
Another Oxtoolco job well done. Nice attention to detail. Thanks for all the videos you produce.
@reideichner8597
@reideichner8597 7 лет назад
Very nice, Tom! That shield will definitely save the bearing. I love your approach to solving a problem! Thanks!! Happy New Year! Take Care, Reid
@larrysperling8801
@larrysperling8801 7 лет назад
you are a real craftsman tom. not many people would have have made a forming die to create a shield. i'm going to have to make one of those platens you used to bore the hole in the shield, i can see a lot of applications for one of those. happy new year and thanks for everything you do for the metal working community.
@RRINTHESHOP
@RRINTHESHOP 7 лет назад
Nicely done Tom, thanks for sharing. Happy New Year.
@francescolaporta2706
@francescolaporta2706 6 лет назад
Randy Richard In The cartoni animati
@erlingweiseth2774
@erlingweiseth2774 7 лет назад
Great video! I'll be using this knowledge on a project for my exhausts for my Kawasaki tomorrow! Thanks for sharing!
@andrewwilson8317
@andrewwilson8317 7 лет назад
Have had good success with forming bearing shields for classic motorbikes using a technique I was taught as an apprentice. The shield material is sandwiched between the former and some tough rubber sheet. The former is pressed into the rubber using the shop press and the resistance of the rubber gives a nice gentle flow form. Handy for shapes that are not round or have a taper on them. Thanks for the great video Tom.
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 7 лет назад
Hi Andrew, That process is called Guerin forming or rubber pad forming. Works well for stuff like this also. The die would need to be different and the support for the rubber would need to be kind of cup shaped. That would also work. If I had a lot of these to make rubber pad forming would be a good option. Best, Tom
@andrewwilson8317
@andrewwilson8317 7 лет назад
oxtoolco Thank you Tom, did not know that was its proper name. I used the technique recently to make some formed panels in aluminium for a restoration job. The shapes were irregular and lent themselves readily to the technique.
@scottwillis5434
@scottwillis5434 4 года назад
The Guerin process is good for one-offs because you only need to make one die, and there's no need to precisely align dies.
@bobhorton4750
@bobhorton4750 7 лет назад
Thanks Tom. I have been pondering on how to make a similar set of forming dies and this video really cleared things up for me. I guess there really isn't anything new under the sun Mr. Wizard. Take care. Bob
@skeeter50001
@skeeter50001 7 лет назад
Very nice job Tom. This is the first time I have seen this done. Thanks much for the video. Happy New Year to you and family.
@brucethomson2049
@brucethomson2049 7 лет назад
Worked well. What I have done in the past is make the bottom tool with a thread in it and used a bolt to hold the top tool in place. You can slip a tube over the head to press it first , then tighten the bolt down to hold it in place for hammer forming. Then put the whole shooting match in a vice. That way you can hammer form the edge all the way around without having to swing a clamp out of the way. You can use the bolt to pull the depression into the metal first as well, as long as it is of sufficient size. Handy if you don't have a press!
@johneslaughter
@johneslaughter 7 лет назад
Very nice work. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
@alistairhosie652
@alistairhosie652 7 лет назад
Hi when I was around fifty four I developed a form of parkinsons disease and I retired and built myself a wonderful large woodworking shop quickly followed by a nice but smaller single garage size machine shop. These shops have been my saviour I attended a retired engineers club for around five years one day a week every Friday where I learned all the basics in machining . Watching you and some others here have been a great inspiration to me. Anyway I wanted to say I love watching your videos and wanted to thank you brother. God Bless your unseen pal Alistair in Scotland on the Holy Loch God bless and as they say in the states keep-em-comin-bro, LOL
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 7 лет назад
Hi Alistair, Thanks for the nice comment. Its always cool to hear folks get inspired and are empowered to take on those projects they have been dreaming about. I'll have a snort of some single malt that came from somewhere near Argyll and toast your nice note. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 7 лет назад
Always something very interesting to see here.That was a really nice build. I think you may need more meat loaf if your going to be forming sheet metal with that arbor press. Thanks for the video.
@manoharsagunthalla9215
@manoharsagunthalla9215 5 лет назад
Thank you very much for best demo idea!
@jasongladen82
@jasongladen82 7 лет назад
Your sketching was awesome. That was fun to watch.
@chukkyup
@chukkyup 7 лет назад
snap an o ring between cover and wheel to remove gap, nice to see more marvel action.Thanks for the videos
@FredMiller
@FredMiller 7 лет назад
Nicely done Tom. I saw a new project for me here. Loved the faceplate with "mini pallet" type holes. Gonna have to make me one! And thanks for the tin knocker tutorial. Happy New Year... Fred
@rc166honda
@rc166honda 4 года назад
beautiful work
@stephenwagar2663
@stephenwagar2663 7 лет назад
fantastic ... I love the sheet metal work ! Your BEST Video Yet !!! Best Regards
@bobbergman9467
@bobbergman9467 7 лет назад
D'arcy Saw has a lot of parts for old Marvels saws. John is a good resource to talk to. Marvel is a great American classic tool. Nice video. Bob
@pauldevey8628
@pauldevey8628 7 лет назад
Just got your second book. It is nice. Thank you for passing on the knowledge.
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 7 лет назад
Hi Paul, Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 7 лет назад
What a great tip about not forming the edge with a metal hammer. I did not know that. That answers a lot of my past project problems.
@elmarqo_3448
@elmarqo_3448 7 лет назад
nice work Tom. you made it look easy
@bradapprentice1397
@bradapprentice1397 7 лет назад
Tom, Once again you break new boundaries in what is fresh and new, in the world of “RU-vid Metal-Heads”. And, as always, ya did a good job of it! Brad
@UFOGEORGE
@UFOGEORGE 7 лет назад
ALL THE BEST FOR A HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR TOM ! ALL THE BEST FROM CRETE !
@eleventeenmachine5991
@eleventeenmachine5991 6 лет назад
I just caught this and I've always wanted to accomplish something like it. But I didn't know how to do it. I do now. Thanks Tom!
@littlerick3
@littlerick3 2 года назад
I was a machine designer for many years and the suggestion I have would be to add a simple labyrinth seal with a sheet metal washer. Turn a small step on the outside of bearing housing for a lite press fit of the washer. The OD of the washer can be made very close the inside of the cap since the is no relative motion between the cap and the washer. I enjoy seeing how you design and fix problems.
@travisshrewsbury7169
@travisshrewsbury7169 7 лет назад
right on as usual, Happy new year
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 7 лет назад
I am impressed. :-) Happy new year Tom. Looking forward to the completion of the etching press in 2017. You already won best project series at the bash, can't have you beating me out for longest project series as well if I make it out. LOL
@howder1951
@howder1951 7 лет назад
They used to buy these by the gross in the bearing shop, this is way more interesting! As always Tom another elegant means to an end, I like the design to finish project approach to your videos. What to go starting the new year, Cheers!
@ROBRENZ
@ROBRENZ 7 лет назад
Great demonstration of forming techniques Tom! SKF Nillos rings are a great seal type for that application IF you wanted to buy some. ATB, Robin
@StefanGotteswinter
@StefanGotteswinter 7 лет назад
That came out great, looks perfect :)
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 7 лет назад
Hi Stefan, Thanks for stopping by. Handy for making things look like a big factory made them. Best, Tom
@ofujuncky
@ofujuncky 7 лет назад
That was way cool ! Great info Thanks!
@ardisd01
@ardisd01 7 лет назад
Great video like the way you used the mini pallet clamps on the lathe
@SlowEarl1
@SlowEarl1 7 лет назад
Nice work Tom!
@ji0050
@ji0050 7 лет назад
Another great video.
@mattcurry29
@mattcurry29 7 лет назад
Really cool video Tom. Happy New Year to you and your family.
@oh8wingman
@oh8wingman 4 года назад
I've always liked the Marvel line of vertical sliding bandsaws be cause of their accuracy and their simplicity in their design. On the older units they used to use a cork clutch that was counterweighted by a lever mechanism to drive the saw into the material. The further you slid the weight away from the clutch the harder the drive pushed on the material. I was working in a shop that had an old Marvel that was in really nice shape but I noticed that the fellows using the saw were hand feeding the blade. I asked why they didn't use the clutch drive and they said it didn't work properly. I asked if they would show me what it was doing and when they did and I knew immediately that the clutch cork had worn to its limits and couldn't drive the mechanism properly. It bothered me for the rest of the day and part of the evening that no one cared enough to fix that machine. The next morning I was the first worker in the door and I had a plan of attack. Right next to the time clock was a large cork bulletin board. A few seconds with my trusty Buck knife and I had a new clutch. It took about 10 minutes to tear it apart and cut the cork to fit the drum. I got it put back together just before we were to start the day shift. When the fellows who ran the saws came out to start up I asked if I could see the drive work again an they gave me a strange look but agreed. They threw it into engagement and low and behold it worked perfectly. They asked what I had done and I told them I just adjusted it a little better. Later that day we had a safety meeting and one of the first topics was destruction of company property and they wanted to know who had vandalised the bulletin board beside the time clock. No one ever owned up..............
@paulmurphy612
@paulmurphy612 5 лет назад
Good job. I enjoyed that.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 7 лет назад
I agree SWEET ! Nobody knows there hammers like you Tom.. Thumbs up man..
@cliffordfender1159
@cliffordfender1159 7 лет назад
Tom, don't forget about that sleeve that contacts the inner races and goes in-between the two bearings. Great work and video, Cliff
@lesfoster4364
@lesfoster4364 7 лет назад
Hi Tom, Nice job as always. Cheers, Les
@davidmotoman4956
@davidmotoman4956 6 лет назад
I was looking to do the Same Last year for a Dust Shield on the rear wheel bearing on one of my Motor Cycles i was restoring. Time was of the Essence and Settled for boring a Hole in the middle of a brass Welsh plug polished it up presto. But Now i Know how to make a Die for the next ones :) Cheers Tom keep em coming
@billdlv
@billdlv 7 лет назад
Nice job Tom. Happy New Year
@Georges-MILLION
@Georges-MILLION 7 лет назад
Excellent Tom !!! Bonne Année !!! Georges ( France ) Excellent Tom !!! Happy New Year !!! Georges (France)
@AF6LJSue
@AF6LJSue 7 лет назад
Cool Never seen hammer forming like that before
@TheUpperGlasscom
@TheUpperGlasscom 2 года назад
Wow that's a tight fit that could work really good for some other applications
@pierresgarage2687
@pierresgarage2687 7 лет назад
Hi Tom, Seeing how you needed to jump at the press this looks like that's the biggest shape you can form before needing bigger tooling, the other cheap solution is to eat a little more before a work session... lol I want to wish you a Happy New Year and all the best to you and your family for 2017, Pierre
@krazziee2000
@krazziee2000 7 лет назад
very nice. thanks for the lesson ,,
@jesscneal
@jesscneal 7 лет назад
Really cool Tom
@mog5858
@mog5858 7 лет назад
nice work. happy new year.
@TheMetalRaymond
@TheMetalRaymond 7 лет назад
I do not understand your language but the images are worth more than the words. I like your channel and I follow it frequently.Animo.Saludos.
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 7 лет назад
Hi Raymond, Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@TheMetalRaymond
@TheMetalRaymond 7 лет назад
Very good videos.👍👍👍
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 7 лет назад
Hi Raymond, Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@mikenixon9164
@mikenixon9164 7 лет назад
Nice job.
@PeopleAlreadyDidThis
@PeopleAlreadyDidThis 7 лет назад
Super. The award for "most delicious sound on RU-vid" should go to those resonant "clocks" your headstock gear shifts make in your acoustical concert-hall of a shop! I could watch a half- hour video of gear changes.
@HaxbyShed
@HaxbyShed Год назад
Very nice job thanks. Cheers
@JunkMikesWorld
@JunkMikesWorld 7 лет назад
Nice job on that part Tom! I often use hammer forming to make rust out repair pieces for car bodies. Typically my dies are made from pieces of scrap wood so there is no problem working the edge with a steel hammer. I do appreciate the tip about using a soft hammer when working with a metal die. I likely would not have thought of that until I had screwed up my part. All the best! Mike
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 7 лет назад
Hi Mike, You know I screwed up more than one part before I figured that out. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@charrontheboatman
@charrontheboatman 7 лет назад
Tom, Thanks for demonstrating yet again an old school technique, that is soon to be a dead breed, everyone nowadays wants faster less effort instead of hands on time crafted techniques.wonderful New Year to you and Your Mrs. tom.
@gaetanpelletier951
@gaetanpelletier951 6 лет назад
Nice work I need to do something like that thanks for the good video
@hermannstraub3743
@hermannstraub3743 7 лет назад
Very nice. Thoughts: The bearings have had a open inner side because the hub had to be filled with grease at any time. so the fresh grease would press through the bearings under the washer and drive any dirt outwards. Also i might have considered to give the outer rim of the cup an slight angle. so dirt could be thrown out and would not stuck in the corner. Very, very interesting though. My attempts in formig sheet metal always end in wavy scrap.
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 7 лет назад
i was thinking to use silicon to adhere it, any grease will still get out along the hole of the shaft, and overall would seal it even more?
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 7 лет назад
Hi Hermann, You are correct. That would mean the maintenance guy would have actually had to do his job. I prefer engineering solutions that take into account just how lazy I am. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@ronhutchinson770
@ronhutchinson770 7 лет назад
nice !!! Good job!
@AverageJoe2020
@AverageJoe2020 7 лет назад
Nice work Tom, I used to enjoy making up odd press tools to make trim parts for classic cars, an example of which is in my profile pic. Whoever can guess the car the reflectors were for wins the internet!. Best wishes for 2017, J.
@rlsimpso
@rlsimpso 7 лет назад
Great video. I see I'm not the only one that buys those laser cut round remnants.
@steamerpowered
@steamerpowered 7 лет назад
cool process. I think I'm going to make myself a thin parts chuck like yours ;)
@MatthewRulla
@MatthewRulla 7 лет назад
Tom, I would love to have seen you make a two-stage forming press tool where the first stage creates the inner flange and the second stage slips down around the outside to create the outer rolled edge.
@JohnBare747
@JohnBare747 7 лет назад
An O ring under the new flange would keep even more crap out but would be overkill with the new sealed bearings, Happy New Year.
@MLFranklin
@MLFranklin 3 года назад
Very cool.
@josephmagedanz4070
@josephmagedanz4070 7 лет назад
Pretty good, Tom, pretty good.
@robertkutz
@robertkutz 7 лет назад
tom nice work.
@user-ib4lu4bq9e
@user-ib4lu4bq9e 4 года назад
Шикарное видео. Ждём продолжения.
@alexmclennan3011
@alexmclennan3011 7 лет назад
good one, Tom Thanks
@johntez6231
@johntez6231 Месяц назад
loved it
@19672701
@19672701 7 лет назад
One hell of a hammer form for a one time use!
@joehackenberg30
@joehackenberg30 7 лет назад
nice plat tom love your show I think I would have clamped it in the lath pressing it together with that tale stock and spin rolled the edge with a makeshift barring tool but your probably only making one so it don't matter just my two cents happy new year
@shawnhuk
@shawnhuk 4 года назад
The lack of chatter on your Yam lathe is beautiful.
@v8packard
@v8packard 7 лет назад
What an excellent video. I have dabbled in hammer forming ever since reading about it in Ron Fournier's book years ago. I am still always fascinated by the process. You get a nicer finish than I do from that CCGT insert, is that an AK or AS chipbreaker? I love the chuck/faceplate pallet! Ingenious!! Thanks for all you do. I always get something from it and look forward to more. Happy New Year! Marc
@bernie7958
@bernie7958 7 лет назад
Another very cool video, thank you for sharing. BTW, my son, (13) looked over my shoulder and said "he looks like a cross between Jamie and Adam, but he sounds a lot smarter"
@geoffmorgan6059
@geoffmorgan6059 5 лет назад
Thanks, Tom I have enjoyed watching your videos for a year or so. As always, good work. Just one constructive comment - and you are not alone in this, most all of the sheet metal bashers on youtube with English wheels, dollies, etc. - what is the gauge or thickness of the sheet metal. My experienced gained through some unfortunate outcomes is that there is a big difference between 22 gauge and 18 gauge and so on. Thanks again!
@Gottenhimfella
@Gottenhimfella 4 года назад
In the aerospace industry, when one-off sheetmetal items are needed, they are often machined from solid. For complex shapes this requires CNC, but for this it's simple turning. For something shallow like this, it seems to me it would be less work and require much less material. The second side op could be done by pressure turning (using a tailstock centre forcing a support disk against the work, friction grip helped by abrasive dust or superglue)
@ianjoubert7505
@ianjoubert7505 7 лет назад
thank you mr Lipton
@Bigwingrider1800
@Bigwingrider1800 7 лет назад
Im suprized you didn't make a set tools male &female for the sheet metal part . Done a truck load of hammer forming in my day. Memories
@shanek6582
@shanek6582 7 лет назад
This technique will come in handy if the hearing protection act passes, everyone can make their own suppressor baffles.
@mfsolutions
@mfsolutions 3 года назад
Nice job ... You could use the lath and a piece of wood to spin the complete shape. I did this in Grade 8 on a wood lathe with a wooden form (you would need to use brass and not steel
@skiptracer8703
@skiptracer8703 7 лет назад
I like it Mr. Tom Jim
@scottwillis5434
@scottwillis5434 4 года назад
Great video, thank you! Wondering whether the best angle for the outer rim of the shield is 90 degrees? Seems a bit like the equivalent of a flat roof; won't shed chips and dirt as well as a slope. Also with 90 degrees there's some concern about wrapping it around the die and having, er, fun removing it. Another idea is to add a 'roof' piece of sheet metal, attached to the bearing support, that reaches over the bearing to shed chips. Might want a plastic or rubber edge in case it rubs, though.
@radoslawjocz2976
@radoslawjocz2976 7 лет назад
hi Tom, that's very good video
@cirebeaclaudiu2867
@cirebeaclaudiu2867 7 лет назад
Nilos rings are similar as functionality with the presented cap but they have better protection. However, what we will enjoy watching if you choose that option? Thank you for your effort in creating this good content channel.
@3347861
@3347861 7 лет назад
Beautiful work. I learn something new every video... Thinking out loud....... Any chance of finding a freeze plug, etc and just fitting it to the app?
@georgedennison3338
@georgedennison3338 4 года назад
Would love to see a short bit on that interesting turret hole puncher thingy... unless you have one in the archives, you can point me to. Thanks... GeoD
@MegaHellslayer
@MegaHellslayer 7 лет назад
nice project, you could make the last band on the lathe. you can roll it with a bearing on you mold. thet is how we make ouwer exhaust for very old motorcycles.
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 7 лет назад
Yep that would have worked also. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@1jtolvey
@1jtolvey 7 лет назад
COOL !!
@1jtolvey
@1jtolvey 7 лет назад
PACK IT WITH OLD USELESS GREASE , TO SEAL OUT CRUD ?
@pprotory
@pprotory 6 лет назад
Seems like an awful lot of work when you could have made a combination die that cut the blank and formed the middle in one shot. You could even have it form the sides too. Hammerforming still stretches the metal at the corner. Keep in mind I am coming from the mindset of having to make multiples of this and not just a one off. Pretty cool to see though thanks for sharing it!
@july8xx
@july8xx 7 лет назад
If you can, use some silicone sealant between the gear and the protector to help the outside seal.
@jerrylong381
@jerrylong381 7 лет назад
july8xx The cover doesn't rotate.
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