Makita 40v Rotary Hammer Drill VS Makita 36v Rotary Hammer Drill (Brushless 18v x 2)

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Will the torque limiters kick in on one of these models before the other? My original first review of the Makita 40v Rotary Hammer HR001G can be found below.
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@user-fo2vr5qz2l 3 года назад

thanks for viewing any makita tools it's always interesting

@robertrada6040 3 года назад

Videos and pics don't do it justice. The XGT ( using 2.5ah and not ridiculous 5ah) is NOTICEABLY more petite than the x2 version. I got used to the X2, but the XGT is much closer in size to the 18v Bosch and Metabo hammers I was using. Of course, it's also way more powerful. XGT was supposed to be supplemental, but I think I may just consider it a slow rollover.

@adymatley8237 2 года назад

I'd love to see this vs the dhr 482 18v single battery version just to see how much better it is 😊

@nathanledden3892 3 года назад

I've used that drill to core a 5" hole in red brick. It's a beast and doesn't try to rip your arms out. Although it states only being able to do 65mm, so I've ordered the Twin 40V which can do up to 7", comes with a twin 40V charger as well

@StrongmanLovesAnimals 2 года назад

Wait... Where can I order the twin 40v charger??

@erikkz 2 года назад

@@StrongmanLovesAnimals I had to google, because I'm in the Netherlands, but the Toolshed sells them for 300 NZD.

@peterryan7340 3 года назад

Nice review as always

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 3 года назад

Thanks for watching

@lambanardy 3 года назад

I'm interesting this after year of work. In this video looks good.

@UncleIvan1 3 года назад

I have 18v makitas, but those 40v tool look sexy - even though I have no use for it

@G11IFPS 3 года назад

The battery OCD is very satisfied on this one ^^

@user-fo2vr5qz2l 3 года назад

I see that there is not less than 1cm(0.4inch) between two batteries in the 36v hammer, in fact I guess two batteries included 21700cells may fit in this tool. though makita usually made tools which dont have any space between batteries. I saw recently aliexpress started selling boxes for 21700cells in 2021 though I didnt buy it yet it's interesting

@TonchoTonev 3 года назад

If you have plans for reviewing an 18v rotary hammer drills it would be nice.. Something like dhr182 and dhr242.. 😁😁

@markhedquist9597 2 года назад

Just watched this for a second time. One advantage, I think, that a brushed tool has is torque right from a dead stop. Like when when you hit rebar while drilling, I think a brushed drill would've been able to break loose better. Has anyone else had that experience? Obviously I prefer brushless tools. But a brushed motor, with it's lower tech, sometimes seems to just have more brute strength. Anyhow, thanks for the video. Cheers!

@TheBalcerman Год назад

"I think, that a brushed tool has is torque right from a dead stop" - nope. That's not the case. Actually brushless motors hit peak torque faster and have much smaller "dead zones" when magnet need to initiate position of the rotating element. Instant torque is always better in brushless motor under the same power source and with similar form factor. What we see here is probably the internal safety trigger of the tool itself.

@markhedquist9597 Год назад

@@TheBalcerman Interesting. I guess I didn't take into consideration all the electronics involved in controlling a brushless motor.

@alouisschafer7212 23 дня назад

Its really odd that the 36V tool seems to have less torque than the 40V tool since technically the motor assembly in these hammers should be the exact same thing since these hammers are so similar and run on the same voltage. Cant be the batteries also 2x18V packs in series are certainly not less powerful than one 40v battery its just the same number of cells in series. In theory you are actually getting a beefier powerpack with 2x18V batteries since you have two cells in parallel in each 18v pack while with a 40v pack you have one cell handling all the current except for the huge 5.0 and 8.0 packs. All Makita batterys these days are made with Sony Murata VTC cells aswell. More or less the same output currents for 18V and 40V when you look up the specsheets. Id love to put the theory to the test since as an example a standard and most common BL1840B Battery should put out 792W peak (Voltage x max discharge current according to specsheet for the VTC4 cells they use in these packs) or around 44 Amps max output current. A 4.0 BL4040 pack should have peak output of 1080W or around 30 Amps max output current. They use big 21700 VTC6A cells that's how they can supply that power level without having cells in parallel. The 18V packs are a parallel series configuration remember they have two weaker cells in parallel and then connect five of these paralleled up cells in series to get to 18V. So 2x18V at 44 Amps is 1584W peak output. Of course I don't have a bunch of Makita batterys and a digital load bank to test the theoretical numbers. So maybe the 40V tool does have a slightly stronger motor or some kind of XGT magic to unlock more torque?

@sarahnz65 Год назад

Im in Auckland and I’d lend you an 18v brushless for a comparison video, could be interesting to see.

@CSLFiero 3 года назад

one thing I've noticed about makita lxt is how nannying the over-discharge protection is. these two should be technically identical, but when drilling rock, I've come up against the circuit board on my makitas. at least, that's what I think it is 90% sure. xgt tools appear to be more leinient, letting the operater decide more when his tool has had enough.

@CSLFiero 3 года назад

@@Andrea-Zerg my understanding is that the 18 650s used in this are rated for 20 amps, but I think the lxt platform is cutting you off somewhere between 15 and 18 where is the xgt platform isn't afraid of letting you boil the chemistry. I honestly think this is more appropriate, because battery chemistry is much more stable in the last 10 years since those numerous lithium ion fire scandals

@Leonardo-mw7tn 3 года назад

The problem is the interchangeable chunk in the 36v I have a friend that have the same model and this happens to him all the time but I have the one that have not the interchangeable chunk and it work great with out stuck anywhere

@Dave-dh7rt Год назад

Chunk

@alouisschafer7212 23 дня назад

Best not to get a hammerdrill with an interchangeable chuck. Just one more part to break and totally unrealistic to go trough the effort of constantly changing the chuck around instead of just bringing a cordless drill with you.

@Seqhael 2 месяца назад

Hey bro I still don’t have a SDS, I’ve been disappointed in my 36v skilly on site but wondering if I should try a 40v SDS or just go 240v corded?

@YoSoyGus1 3 года назад

Whish you would have demonstrated the chipping function

@bensun3360 Год назад

Where I can buy this scaffold.

@dominicvanlievenoogen6407 3 года назад

Chuck a 24mm drill bit on both of those. then you'll notice a big difffrence

@grahamm2928 3 года назад

Hey man, do you have any info on when makita might be dropping another group of XGT tools? would really love a planer and router and dont want to by LXT if they are coming soon

@robertrada6040 3 года назад

XGT stuff is being launched all scattershot and random. Newest stuff is: A torch that looks like the 3000 lumen LXT but is only 1000 lumen. Plunge cutting tracksaw (ala Festool). Beer cooler. X2 80v Bush Cutter/Line Trimmer. Medium duty 1/2" impact wrench. 12" Miter Saw.

@grahamm2928 3 года назад

@@robertrada6040 thanks!! where did you see this??

@robertrada6040 3 года назад

I forgot to mention the tire inflator. Makita will release things outside of Japan that they never offer to their native market or release things in random places days to years before they release them elsewhere. So, you have to stay vigilant and check their Asian, American, UK and NZ/AU websites to get the full spectrum.

@grahamm2928 3 года назад

@@robertrada6040 thanks for the heads up. Very tempted to get their track compatible 7 1/4 but I may wait to see what the track saw is like. Am also considering the HKC 55 but it seems underpowered

@robertrada6040 3 года назад

@@grahamm2928 Not only is it underpowered, it can’t cut a US 2x4 at a 45 while in the crosscut track. 😂. That said, I know of a Mafell freak that used the HK55C for a long time without any issue. They liked it, it just wasn’t expected to be a beast. My little KSS40 isn’t that powerful but it does it’s tricks when required. However, I never grabbed the other cordless Mafell saws because they’re better in every way but for one thing: still 18v(and the price, of course). I haven’t gotten an XGT 7-1/4 yet, but I have had the brushless X2 for some time and it spoiled 18v saws for me. The 165 XGT is a beast. It’s not built as well as Mafell/Festool, but it performs just as good and runs circles around them in the power department. The 125mm is more powerful than the KSS40…but I’ve come to realise that I want the the KSS40 features over the XGT power when working with 3/4” and under material. It’s going to be trim, woodworking or laminates, after all. If you want something with an attached mitiring crosscut rail: only Mafell and Festool do it. If you just want to be able to use a straight guide rail once and a while with with your go to saw, I’d go with the XGT Makita, tbh. Just remember that you lose a 1/4” of cutting depth before putting on the track.

@NameNaameNameeNaamee 3 года назад

It's not only newer, it will cost you a sh*tload more money as well. Something to keep in mind when it comes to 40V. These tools are in a totally different price range. So the question if you NEED that little bit of extra power actually is key.

@danielgarbuzov8106 Год назад

Not only more power, but also they say better ip rating, which I think is worth it.

@vaggelislok 6 месяцев назад

Every battery costs 190-230$ not to mention the charger, most of us have already LxT battery, so to combine with tools, i think dhr 283 will do the work. Lot of costs to change to 40V drill. Unless you build xgt series from zero.

@alanmooney 3 года назад

I love your videos and content, I love your chanel, it is just wonderful the amount information you give freely to the worldwide RU-vid Community. Please use a vacuum to make sure you don't breathe in that concrete/dust/silicosis shit. Please!!!@@

@tahakhan2465 3 года назад

If bouth tools are brushless and are around 36v - 40v and bouth are hammer drills are fine

@alexanderyu85 3 года назад

I had real site experience, i can tell u even old makita rotatary hammer is better than brand new Deavon( same owner of Flex)

@wippip 3 года назад

I suppose it would be a bit much to ask to look inside both to see what causes the 40v to have a considerable power edge on the 2x18v. Battery wise they’re similar, so it’s got to be new motor tech right?

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 3 года назад

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@riba2233 Год назад

40v packs use better cells, for both 18650 and 21700 models

@alouisschafer7212 23 дня назад

@@riba2233 Two 18V packs combined make more power than a 40V pack depending on which ones you use.

@riba2233 23 дня назад

@@alouisschafer7212 true, but that is not the whole story

@jackoneil4164 3 года назад

I still prefer the tiny 18v dhr171. It's just so much lighter.

@robertrada4783 3 года назад

I was double fisting the ‘murican model dhr171 (xrh0 something “subcompact”) with the x2 all week. 3/8” bit, half a foot, maybe three seconds tops on the x2. When space was a limiting factor...my lord...the little guy felt like he was taking forever (only in comparison). This was into the floor/slab, however. Obviously, the minute you go into the wall or ceiling...woof. 🤣.

@666Eddie123321 2 года назад

whats the difference between the hr001g and the 007g? 🤔

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 2 года назад

The shape.

@666Eddie123321 2 года назад

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Thank you!

@dcharmz5915 Год назад

is Makita HAMMER DRILL BATTERY FITS ALL MAKITA TOOLs except for The latest XGT MODEL?

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Год назад

If the battery has LXT on it then it will work on all the 18v LXT tools, which is around 200 tools.

@alexanderyu85 3 года назад

Makita 40v enjoy 21700 battery, which can be seen only after battery level low

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 3 года назад

The batteries used in this video are all 18650 cells. Only the 4Ah 40v battery uses 21700 cells.

@iginiobluevest9259 3 года назад

40v max (36v nominal) 5Ah w/18650 = 2x 18V 5AH w/18650

@kc0lif 3 года назад

yes the same

@crom29a 3 месяца назад

🛠🤘👍

@EnPaq Год назад

very job for money 40v drill

@brodycloud3405 3 года назад

Set up a patreon, it might not be much but it'll soften the blow of future reviews capital expense

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 3 года назад

I would love to but the problem is only a handful of people will actually put their money where their mouth is. And I may end up having to make extra content for 10 people.

@robertrada4783 3 года назад

“They both have 5ah, they both have 36v...”. They both have the most frustrating auxiliary handle attachment and adjustment.

@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 3 года назад

Very true. I much preferred the previous design.

@robertrada4783 2 года назад

@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I’ve been “one-handing” the XGT so it’s a moot point, I reckon. I didn’t pay the US price. I imported the non-aws from Britain (my Festo vac already has a remote). I need to remember to use the rotary dial. Can it blow out a brick wall with a tiny 5/32” bit? Yes.

@gnshp8167 3 года назад

I am glad that they introduced this 40v line , the 2x18v is was just a uncomfortable tool

@ovi1013 3 года назад

I choose Bosch for anything hammer

@robertrada4783 3 года назад

On the cordless front, the 36v Makitas smoke the Bosch output. That said, I’ve gotten much cleaner holes with Bosch than any other brand. I do miss one of the Bosch cordless I had. It was really classy and best in class for single battery 18v in my opinion.

@ovi1013 3 года назад

@@robertrada4783 I have the hitman 18v

@robertrada6040 3 года назад

@@ovi1013 Ahh, I'm talking about the girly hands SDS-Plus. You're talking about SDS-MAX/Spline territory. You would hate the Makita based on their auxillary handle alone. The "profactor" and Makita hammers being close in design to the corded models that I was once familiar with, no contest, I like the larger Bosch hammers and very much dislike the Makitas. The ergonomics alone. I dumped Bosch for cordless, but that doesn't mean I live in fantasy land. Plus you pay a big premium on the Makita, for what? It's made in China, not Germany....

@alouisschafer7212 23 дня назад

Corded Bosch, Makita and Metabo they are all good and very solid. Cordless - Makita and Bosch wins. The Bosch cordless hammers are reliable and smooth workhorses they don't boast with numbers but I haven't met a guy who has used one and didn't like they way they drill. Especially the old brushed 36V hammers.

@robswingler 3 года назад

Makita always have the lowest impact joule at of every brand . So for drilling larger holes they are always the slowest . Pretty much every sds comparison has Makita in last place .

@tearodman 3 года назад

not at all: see this 2018 test qQwkpzX97ms

@alouisschafer7212 23 дня назад

Not at all bro. Joules are such a relative number aswell. 90% of the holes I drill are 6-10mm in concrete ~2 Joules is plenty for that I care more about battery runtime and how well the drill handles. Size and weight is more important aswell for spots with dogshit access or overhead drilling.