Man-Made! How were the Qira’at formed in the 7th-century? - Qira'at Conundrum - Episode 8 

The preservation of Quran but Uthman were able to delete the other 6 ahruf? What kind of preservation is this???

Always great material. I have learned so much from you gentlemen.

From what I have seen and learned is WHOEVER complied or wrote the qur'an [and certainly because it wasn't moohammad] wrote as the first person, not knowing its history or locations of these stories.

Something that leads the people towards humanity,is word of Allah swt.it is better to follow peace instead of arguing

great job Dr Jay and Alfadi. more grace.

Thank you so much Fadi! you are doing so amazing work. Im here in 2024 studying. Im here to support you my friend! Please be aware that even your older materials are watched years after you made them! God bless you brother!

God bless both of you...

Well done brothers. In our neighbouring countries also many have turned to Christ for they realized that Jesus is the way to Salvation.

I like the charts a lot! Thanks! Are they posted online somewhere?

excellent research

Yes, that's what Jay should be saying at speaker corner, photocopy that chart, and hand it out.

Christianity has such a rich history with its biblical manuscripts. We are the pioneers when it comes to textual criticism and there is no other religious text that has come close to the Bible academically. Since the 1700s (the enlightenment period) we have had the knowledge on how to handle various types of criticisms. Historical criticism, redaction criticism, literary criticism and textual criticism. All of these are being applied to the Quran and it’s failing miserably lol.

Dr. Jay has the BEST shirts! Muslims are MAD. - Oooo-t-t-t-tooo!

Actually just after the death of Muhammad in632 and the Uthmanic Recension, there was a compilation by Zaid IBN Thabit on instruction of Caliph Abu Bakr. When completed, it was held for safekeeping by Habshah. And when Uthman demanded all other Qurans be burned didnt Ubayy IBN Kabb refused to give up his Quran to be burned?

These five Qurans were sent to five destinations, but from where?

What is the meaning of readings? They are the same or there are differences?

They should have kept all the original copies, regardless of the variances.

Thanks for these wonderful videos, but Seven readings and seven Ahruf are not synonyms.

Read: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.

The readings are by the tongues of the different people that came and followed Muhammad from different places that spoke Arabic so it's different accents

People, let’s not start a religious war, it will not be good for neither of us, talk about what unite not what divide, we both believe in God and believe in holy books, and don’t call what Muslim believe in fake or worse. PLEASE.

Can you please comment on the proposed deletion of 24 verses offensive to non Muslims by Mr Waseem Rizvi recently in your near future video blog? Thanks

Praise the Lord Jesus Christ. 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳

In the case the Qur'an is important, the five Uthmanic copies would have been so precious that each of its beholders would have protected them at any cost for the city it was in. They got lost. In case you had, as a Muslim, to decide between saving your life or the copy of the Qur'an I see you as saving the copy. They got lost.

What ever happened to Hatun?

Salami and bacon everyone!!

The story of the quran is like momo's genealogy, it's either a mystery or it doesn't exist

The Reminder(114 Surats) informs us that there is a Tradition which claims to be an Apostolic Tradition but rejects circumcision while the Apostles were all circumcised, the Apostles didn't believe in Trinity, and prescribed a dietary Law in Acts 15:22-34 which the said Tradition rejects. It is not ironic! On the basis of those clues we can say for sure that: Qur'an is a codeword for Torah. The Reminder is the 114 Surats Islam means an Evangelical Party supposed to enforce the Torah as the Law of the land. Muhammad euphemism for Messiah Abu Quasim as an Arabian Evangelist who later became a Sovereign Ruler, Legislator...and took up Muhammad as a reign name. Unfortunately the "Muhammad" of the Palace and the "Mohammad" of the Shahada in the Mosque got blended together in the Tradition. It's time to differentiate the Palace and the Mosque...under the Messianic title Mohammad.

So what happened to the original quran gentleman. ..

But the Gospels are also attributions so if its not acceptable for the Qoran its not acceptable for the bible.

The Quran is one and the Othman version is the most all over the world. Other qiraat are the version that are normally hold only by those the famous Quran readers. The deferent qiraat means defferent pronunciation does not change the meaning of the world. They all preach believes in one God Allah He has no son. The Othman version is the Quran it is affixed with vowels to standardize the word pronunciation.

All hail the Lord. The Prince. The Savior. The Truth. Christ the Perfect. Muslim Bros. and Sisters come to the Lord ASAP .

👍

"The Father and I are one!" "If you see Me, you see the Father!" "Don't you believe that the Father is IN Me?" "ALL (!) AUTHORITY in heaven and earth has been given to Me!". (Only God has all authority). At healing the paralytic: "Your sins have been forgiven you!" (Only God can forgive sins). "I am THE (not a) light of the world". ...God. "I have come to give you Zoë =divine life in abundance". (Only God can give Zoë life). Etc, etc. Conclusion of Paul after having revelation: "Jesus, the exact image of the invisible God. The fullness of deity dwells in Jesus bodily". John (who had seen, touched, heard Jesus): "the invisible God manifested in human form, in Christ". Thomas having revelation saying to Jesus: "My Lord and My God!". Jesus being God did NOT correct Him. Etc, etc, etc. And of course His life totally proves He is God in human form. Begotten by the Spirit of God, filled with the spirit of God, healing all, raising the dead, casting out demons, controlling nature, raised from the dead, pouring out His Spirit for us to be indwelled by to be empowered to heal the sick and cast out demons, etc, etc, etc. Hence the divine healing miracles and casting out of demons i experienced already thousands of times and many others too. Way to much to degrade Him to "just a prophet". Muhammed unfortunately never understood God's resolve for mankind's fall and wrote an other story leading millions astray. Heartbreaking. But for those who take Jesus for who He is and ask to be filled by His godly Holy Spirit.....: divine life. Tangible presence of God, healings, demons running for cover, etc. Just as with His first 12+72 friends.

Is it just that Islamic people don't ask these questions... or are they asked but then totally ignored?

Muslim scholars in fear - resorting to firewall of denial

So, all wise Allah made the effort to reveille the Qur'an in 7 dialects for a few desert dwellers but forgot about all the other languages. He first spoke Hebrew, then the Hebrews got some things wrong, so he sent Jesus to the Hebrews to correct them, who then became Christians. Then supposedly Christians need to be corrected so he sent Mom to correct the PAGANS in a language barely any Christian understood? Allah sent the 10 commandments in Hebrew and the injil in Aramaic, the common language in Israel at the time of Jesus and then he suddenly forgot the previous languages and only speaks Arabic? Why are there not many tablets in heaven in many languages for all people Allah created?

Men made qurans bit most of them are claimed to be da'if surahs and hadiths!! Islam doesn't make sense as religion, but more like a social thing of blindly following cultural traditions. Cult is a big part of cultures.

Cristian missionary is very funny, they don't even know about Arabic alphabet, how can they read Quran and talk about Qiraat. At least when the imam reads the Quran during congregational prayers, all makmum from various backgrounds (race, country, dialect, etc.) can understand the verse being read. So, the summary, there is only one Quran with 114 verse (in 30 Juz).

Cristian missionary is very funny, they don't even know about Arabic alphabet, how can they read Quran and talk about Qiraat. At least when the imam reads the Quran during congregational prayers, all makmum from various backgrounds (race, country, dialect, etc.) can understand the verse being read. So, the summary, there is only one Quran with 114 verse (in 30 Juz).😅

Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit... Islam is a false religion and Muhammad is a false prophet who misled billions of people in the world Jesus is supreme Jesus has the power to grant eternal life. Hallelujah to Christ Jesus Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit.... be bless.. peace!...../