Suspicious! Over 30 different Qur’ans formed in the 8th century? - Qira'at Conundrum - Episode 9 

AlFadi and Jay Smith, I’m proud of myChristian faith.Continue the great work to investigate the historical truth about Islam, the Quran and Mohammed. Help fellow Muslims to turn to Christ.God Bless them who know not.

"There are holes in the standard narrative"

Al Fadi, we need to know the truth about Islam. You are the true source. GBU🙏

*Mbarikiwe sana. All the way from TANZANIA.May you all stay blessed 🙏*

Thank you Bro. Al-Fadi and Bro. Jay Smith

Thank you! Can you do an episode where you open and read each sura to we can see and here the difference? That will be help a lot. Thanks alot

Abd al Malik started Islam? That's VERY interesting!

we need more organizations like this to educate some chriatians to be a firm to our belief and not easily converted to other religions

Great vid and facts. Thanks guys

My hat off to you brothers! Excellent information to strengthen the faith of Christians.

If it was perfectly preserved, it would be in 1 book under 1 name.

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Can 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1............ equal one? There are several different Arabic Qurans, but according to Muslims, they equal one perfectly preserved Quran.

Yout intro song sounds like,"I Was Made For Lovin' You" by Kiss lol

This is important. The Egyptian standardised version was made 1904, and they also destroyed all the different Quran manuscripts to hide up the truth, the same did Uthman, he burned those texts that contradicted his version, but his version doesn’t exist. So, what do we have, the Haf’s Quran, a pupil who was called liar by his fellow Muslims.

Please give me some What is the specific difference between the uthman's quraishi Koran and the other 30 different, whether the difference in the number of chapters or the difference in the number of verses. in Indonesia we always talk about the Koran with the number of verses 6666 while the fact is that in the Koran the number of verses is only 6236 start from surah alfatihah until annas.

Fadi love you bro♥️👍👍♥️hats off to Jay🙏👍🙏

So Quran ultimately boils down to tomatoes and potatoes. 😆😂😆 happy tomatoes and potatoes, Dr. AlFadi and Dr. Jay. 🍅🍠

What we need is the Muslim cleric's/scholars/Immam's coming out openly and stating the Quran is NOT perfectly preserved as the traditions or the Quran say

Well, I think you should not only look at Abd el Malik but also to the takeover of the Caliphate by the Abbasids in 749.

If qu'rans began to appear with different vowelisations it suggests that at some time a text existed which did not have vowelisation - which in turn suggests that it was compiled before the system of vowelisations was introduced. So there must have been a 7th century text.

Thank you for this collective research of the history of Qur’an writings.

Thank you Jay and Al Fadi! God bless you!

Where can you buy a Warsh Quran?

To be honest: the existence of the variant readings obviously shows that the quran has not been perfectly preserved. However, it also is evidence that there is a true historic kernel of the historicy of islam. A later inventor would not have invented so many versions of the quran, including subreadings etc.

You guys Rock, the mohammadites apologists should be really thinking about the Jesus

Thanks 🙈🙊 Mr 🥰

Even if you compare the hafs and the warsh texts side by you can see the verses have different meanings so how can they be preserved and unchanged when you can see the differences between them. The original quran would have had no diacritics or vowels so the words would have to be pronounced exactly the same so how do you get a dialectical difference? You can't it's not possible.

“Beware of the scribes who like to walk in long robes, and love to be greeted in the streets and take the chief seats in the synagogues, and high places at banquets.” Luke 20;46

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Tell this to zakir naik, he replied :Good question brother, then bla bla with his intelligent he said, ppl clap and he famous, india government still finding him now😅

I'm seeing peer review is taken place on RU-vid and Islamic scholars are aggressively asking for ethical concerns of peer review. Its almost impossible to work with someone gas lighting. Text that dont match blow them away and they say they can't accept that even though its dated to such facts.

Made: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.

Halleluijah Amen, Love from Bangladesh.

There is a standard narrative in the holes

Thank you sir GOD Bless

Very well done except for the end of the presentation. That there are multiple Qurans and Musahaf does not prove that Christian ideology is true.

Yep, these are just the standard ones. You only need standard ones when there are many more so that you have to establish some sort of standard to get some sort of agreement. If you have one interpretation that says that you have to feed 1 poor person if you can't fast and another that says you have to feed 3 or more, which one is right. And when there are soooooo many different differences like this you end up with hundreds of arguments over these things. This in addition to all the contradictions in the Qur'an to begin with.

Mark 14:62 " Son of man sitting on the right hand side of The Mighty One" Who is this Son of man sitting on right hand side of The Mighty One ? Who is this The Mighty One ?

What i heard fr.muslims there are 3000 diff.books of bible.is it true.can anybody explain.?

The old refrain that it is easier to fool human beings than to convince them they have been fooled, is repeated ad infinitum.

Where is the historical verification that Uthman had a Qur'an? I think Chevalie has made a good point.

Big thumb up 👍both of you. God bless

I think no one dreamt of the future languages technology

Faadi, where is the original Bible and Gospel of Jesus ? In all major scriptures only Bible is not provided in original text ? All major religious groups like Hindus, Buddhists Muslims etc provide original text of their religious scriptures (Hindus provide Vedas in Sanskrit, Budhists provide Dhammapad in Pali, Muslims provide Quran in Arabic) But only Christian religious leaders don’t provide Bible in original text ?

8:49 the Muslim response to all of Dr. Jay's evidence.

God Bless both of you!!!

Can u tell me which Al-Quran is different meaning?

The Reminder(114 Surats) informs us that there is a Tradition which claims to be an Apostolic Tradition but rejects circumcision while the Apostles were all circumcised, the Apostles didn't believe in Trinity, and prescribed a dietary Law in Acts 15:22-34 which the said Tradition rejects. It is not ironic! On the basis of those clues we can say for sure that: Qur'an is a codeword for Torah. The Reminder is the 114 Surats Islam means an Evangelical Party supposed to enforce the Torah as the Law of the land. Muhammad euphemism for Messiah Abu Quasim as an Arabian Evangelist who later became a Sovereign Ruler, Legislator...and took up Muhammad as a reign name. Unfortunately the "Muhammad" of the Palace and the "Mohammad" of the Shahada in the Mosque got blended together in the Tradition. It's time to differentiate the Palace and the Mosque...under the Messianic title Mohammad.

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English vowels aeiuo. The ere no vowels in Arabic and instead they Khalifa Othman introduced symbol that attached on a letter to tell the reader the pronunciation of that alphabet according to the symbol. So the alphabet can sound Aa or Ae or Au yet is the same alphabet. So why so big deal when the meaning of the word does not change in other Quran.

@ Ama11.Rev22.مغرب 1. Uthman didn't have a Quran...true, but HE complied together and HE wrote it? NOW what he didnt like he burnt? 2. The oldest manuscript of the Quran is in birmingham.... BE VERY CAREFUL with this as if it turns out to predate the birth of the so called prophet from 580-620 it will say this is Arab Nabataean and therefore pagan? 3. Perfectly preserved means, everything, is exactly the same. No deviation , no vowel difference etc. Yet at last count you muslims have 37 different korans? oototototo!

I cherish you dear brothers am getting powerful arsenal to tackle this monster.

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Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, and say: "We hear and we disobey"; and "Hear what is not Heard"; and "Ra'ina"; with a twist of their tongues and a slander to Faith. If only they had said: "What hear and we obey"; and "Do hear"; and "Do look at us"; it would have been better for them, and more proper; but Allah hath cursed them for their Unbelief; and but few of them will believe.

How I earnestly wish that there is now an ORIGINAL ARAMAIC GOSPEL because I am dying inside to read it. I hope there is a translation in English. It's hard to read it in its original form in Aramaic. I don't know that language. I think Aramaic is much harder to read than Arabic. I believe that this Gospel is a book of spiritual guidance from God. Unlike the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are purely biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) but with a huge hole in the accounts of his life covering the primetime of his age. From what museum or library can we find the original ARAMAIC GOSPEL? Is there any original manuscript for it? I am urging Jay Smith and his cohorts to produce that book as soon as possible so that Muslims and Christians alike will be enlightened. -06-14-23

Genesis 19:30-38 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day. And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kjvbible.kingjamesbiblefree Is this the word of God?

Where is the evidence that JC exist.

I'm hoping and pray that all my good Muslim friends will also know the Lord Jesus Christ and receive grace and mercy from God.🙏💓

Sheik Yasir qadhi : Hold my Quran

21:14 The „problems“ with Jesus Christ are „thank god“ to not less, but of the same magnitude of deficits of authentic texts.

Lets see in Oldest Testament Human know today; Scriptures of Hind; Yejurveda 32:3; “ Na Tasya Pratima Asti “Transklation = “ There is No Image of Him (God)” Lets see this portion of Gita ; Chapter 7, Verse 20 ; God say “ Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.” Chapter 7, Verse 21 ; “I am in everyone's heart as the Supersoul. As soon as one desires to worship the demigods, I make his faith steady so that he can devote himself to some particular deity.” God is our Creator, do not be creator of god of our imaginations and speculations. From Ten Commandments; "I am the Lord, thy God" "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"

I like the turban or head scarf you always wear . Thank you so much for what you do.

Over 30 different Qur’ans were formed in the 8th century, where are they and bring the proof. What is wrong with the present Qu'ran?

Matheus /Johannes / Marcus /Lukas evangelical texts are each (!) corrupted in thousand variants - see scholar Dr Bart Ehrman.

"WHY AREN'T MUSLIMS TALKING ABOUT THHIS?" I keep mulling over this question again and again!!!

Lol. You guys try so hard. Qur'an has never changed and will never change.it is in the hearts of millions .Memorized word for word. Passed on generations to generations. Islam is meant for eternity unlike Judaism and Christianity which were meant for only an era. The books aren't preserved for either of them

All of this to say there are different ways to recite it. Just Google qiraat. That's exactly what's written on his slides. For all those whose biases are being confirmed you deserve it. Wait for the appointed time which we all believe in and it will be blatantly clear who is right and who is wrong

Too focused in Uthman R.A as controller of reading in part of the commentary. Jay missed that the Recollection Work started from Abu Bakr R.A and Umar R.A. It was ongoing work by several companions instead of 'dictator' Uthman. Easy. 30 qurans? Never saw/hear any different editions out there presentement. Evidence is clear. Jay just want to normalize concoction in Bible. Ermmm. Do not ask Muslim to repent if the Bible itself that is indeed corrupted.

There is only one true Quran.

Thank you for exposing islam!

so, it was Abd Malik the mastermind behind it all.. hmmm..maybe M was innocent.. ootootootootoo..!!!!

Send them to islam scholars and imams

God is our Creator, do not be creator of god of our imaginations and speculations. From Ten Commandments; "I am the Lord, thy God" "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"

The Quran is the word of God Almighty. Not from Muhammad. The only name for women in the Quran is the Virgin Mary 32 times chapter for maria in quran. If quran from mohammed why he write chapter for maria

I can see the Christians are desperate to prove the Quran wrong, well l wish you luck but it will be futile. Why not look at the lies and deceit in you holy book that has been manipulated and changed over and over with versions from who knows how many people,according to ??? Ive never seen a version according to Jesus(PBU) or God.

Thank God we don't have this problem with who Jesus is: we know who he is we know what he did we know what he said we knew where he was born, yet you believe Jesus was blonde!

You really should stick to your own faith and not bother yourself with what does not concern you

good scientific investigation but unfortunately you have an agenda that discredits the quality of your work. this is the problem with all religions, they are rational and logical when it comes to other religions but as soon as they face their own they become irrational superstitious and unscientific.

THE NEW TESTAMENT BOOK DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE THE HOLY BOOK OF CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THE CONTENT OF THE BOOK IS ONLY THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND ISRAELITES, THERE IS NO INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS. THERE ARE SIX CHRISTIAN WORDS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS. SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.

Christian belief in trinity but ever since they only mentioned Jesus, what about the other 2 ? In fact , if you follow the trinity, Jesus shouldn't be highlighted now because he was only relevant during his time. When he was crucified, resurrected and then he died. He clean all human sin. After that Jesus has no role. Holly spirit also is not relevan now.Why are you still worshipping him now. By right there should be only one god left , trinity should have been transformed into singularity. At the end of the day, the god is only one, trinity is no more relevant, only god (Allah) is exist now. Why Christians are still worshiping Jesus and mentioning his name all the time instead of God/Father/Lord? Why Christians still do not open their eye? Come to Islam because Islam is better religion.

Hahaha..

Soo many times we Muslims have refuted about this 30 versions of Qur'an,... But still u people are again again getting this topic... 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️.....

Why can't you people understand that all religions are man-made.. including Christianity?

All the years of "the last and greatest prophet." Christianity was corrupted by the Romans. Muslims do not have to answer any questions. Just accept Jesus.. He has all the answers. Time to remove the Dome of the Rock. Come to Jesus.

The problem is that a person lies and then lies and then lies until people believe you. Mind is the difference between us and animals

As if the bible is authentic..

Joker face 🤣🤣

Yes Zakir Naik may have stunned and shocked by these latest revelations.

Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit... Islam is a false religion and Muhammad is a false prophet who misled billions of people in the world Jesus is supreme Jesus has the power to grant eternal life. Hallelujah to Christ Jesus Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit.... be bless.. peace!.........

I feel sorry for you. With millions of 'huffaz' on the planet, MashaAllah, and reading Quran in so many parts of the world, far and wide, you still keep repeating your garbage. Go! hear a recording from Somalia, Nigeria, Bangladesh, India, Turkey, Pakistan, Malaysia, and from thousands of places; you won't find a letter of difference.

man made believe n inconsistance

Your funny

Qiraat is the sound of reading depend on the dialects of the people location. The English speaking of England is not the same as that in South African yet all speak english language. For that The khifa Othman introduced the vowel to standardization of the pronunciation of the Quran words for the world. The previous book were not standardized and hence end up corrupted. The Quran words and pronunciation is in the Quran that can not be changed .

I do not believe you.

Truth is : no one has THE Truth.!

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Who said Isaac Newton exist? Jay Smith shook hands with Newton, that's how we know he existed.

OH MY LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST PROTECT AL FADI AND JAY SMITH FAMILY FROM THE DEVIL RELIGION AND FROM THE SATAN PEOPLE AND FILL THEM WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AMEN

JESUS IS NOT GOD OF CHRISTIANS. JESUS DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHRISTIAN. THERE IS NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT PROVES THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS. JESUS WAS NEVER SENT TO CHRISTIANS. THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANITY. JESUS ONLY HAS A VERY CLEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. MATTHEW 15: 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL. JESUS WAS BORN TO BE A LEADER WHO WILL SHEPHERD THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, NOT SHEPHERD CHRISTIANS. MATTHEW 2: 6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people ISRAEL. JESUS ONLY SPOKE TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, JESUS NEVER SPOKE TO CHRISTIANS. MARK 12: 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments, Hear, O ISRAEL, The Lord our God is one Lord. JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. JESUS IS NOT THE SAVIOUR OF CHRISTIANS. THERE IS NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT STATES THAT JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR OF CHRISTIANS. ACTS 13: 23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto ISRAEL A SAVIOUR, JESUS. ALL OF JESUS' ACTIVITIES RECORDED IN THE BIBLE WERE WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, NEVER WITH CHRISTIANS. JAY SMITH, TRY TO SHOW A VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT PROVES THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.