@@Standardgrinching current mcu made this movie an absolute masterpiece😆 ive always loved man of steel, but trash director like taika made me appreciate this movie even more
Agreed, if Zod would have taken the govt prisoner to be tried his friend might have helped. But Zod used the sword immediately to pass judgement and thus made EL question the future Zod had in mind.
Honestly Zod seems like he's right about this one, the leaders are just sitting around acting like nothing is happening when their planet is ending, Zod was going to lead them off krypton so they could terriform a new planet
@@johnhostetler2167Yeah, but he was Space Hilter, obsessed with blood purity and killing any race of people in his way. He wanted to libenstraum Earth to make way for the Kryptonians he chose.
@@World36599because he was born from his mothers womb which hasnt happened on krypton for a long time, while every other kryptonians were genetically engineered.
Yes if general Zod make the earth turn into new kryptonians world then Amazon, atlanteans may not live on this earth anymore and they may be suffering after 🔥🔥😭😂😂
@@atalchemy I still don't understand why they didn't terraform Mars and then begin forging alliances with the people of Earth. Imagine if a powerful race said to a country, join us and your people will never suffer again. Everyone who joins us will gain access to advance medicine, and knowledge. No one will starve and no one will die young and needlessly. All we ask is for your submission and absolute loyalty. I'll tell you right now that a good chunk of the Earth's population especially from the poorer classes would happily submit since the country's of the Earth don't supply sufficient resources. And over time with their advance tech they could easily conquer Earth but doing so economically where it would benefit each nation to submit and become a colony instead of trying to make it on their own. Except for the Atlanteans and the Amazonians, they could have easily conquered all of humanity. Then their combined forces, if they wanted to, could conquer the other two races if they wanted complete world domination, haha.
The irony of the scene in my opinion is that Jor-El was actually the villain here. Zod wanted to save people (plural). Jor-El wanted to save his son only. Idk about you, but if I was on Krypton I would be on Zods side lmao.
@@yorgborg7899 except it’s not evil or villainous to recognize there’s no saving your people and not taking action to save them en masse because they are already doomed. Zod made it explicitly clear here he doesn’t only just want to save his people, he wants to execute those he deems “the problem” (which could very well be biased), which doesn’t have great implications for the future. Literally both of these men are being selfish here 😂. Selfishness doesn’t entail villainy, but malice does.
@@speeddemonji9547 Zod was gonna kill some people? So what. They were already gonna die when the planet exploded anyways. At least he will still save some people after. Jor-Els plan involved EVERYBODY dying except his precious little boy. The people of Krypton deserved to die, was basically Jor-Els logic. And also, to be fair, Zod was going to use the wipe the bloodlines from the codex. That was what Jor-El and Zod was talking about. “Who gets to pick which bloodlines survive Zod. You?”
@@speeddemonji9547 and I meant Villain in the eyes of Krypton. In the eyes of Krypton Zod was a hero who fought tooth and nail for the people who were alive. Jor-El meanwhile was the Villain who unironically wanted everyone currently alive on Krypton to die.
@@speeddemonji9547 Malice doesn’t matter when the result is everyone being dead. Your instantly the Villain when your plan involves the intentional death of Billions.
2.5 hours is not long enough. A series streaming on HBO, with a Game of Thornes budget would be the only way to tell the story properly. The Kryptonion civilization is supposed to 100,000 years old. Jor el mentions a time when they were prosperous, before population control (ie genetic engineering). I would call the show 'Krypton: Children of the Sun'.
This movie is massively underrated. It had depth. It wasn't just "good versus evil".. it was a fight for survival for both races involved, with both not being simply good or bad
@@DerHalbeEurothere’s still people going about with the whole killing thing, assuming u r not sarcastic,did u ever see Clark killing the guy that pushed him in the bar? cause then people could actually complain, people really are so stupid as to willingly ignore how Superman begs Zod not to kill the family before killing him and even after he does he screams his lungs out because he knows he just killed the last of his kind, he’s not a cold blooded killer like many make him out to be, he had NO choice but to kill Zod since he very openly said that he would not rest until he killed every single human cause he has no purpose anymore, all of this makes for an interesting narrative and a movie with real stakes, but people just want jokes and bullshit
@@DerHalbeEuroI don't mind something not being lore-accurate, which in terms of DC comics really isn't consistent to begin with, for as long as there are consequences to the deliberate "lore inaccuracies". In MoS Superman screams his heart out for killing zod, who is essentially the last of his race because he was forced to. In BvS, he is confronted by a batman who's no longer "batman". Battfleck is basically a dark reflection of what superman, no, clark, could become if the weight of his actions and its consequences break him. That's why pa kent decided to not make clark save him, for various reasons, but most importantly, to show an angsty teenage clark that you can't save everyone, and that's okay. To make mistakes is human, to err is human. That's why battfleck changes sides last minute cause he realizes that clark is more human than what he had become. Im ZSJL, superman comes to terms with his decision to kill zod and actually chose to help the jl against steppenwolf. He even deliberately does not kill steppenwolf even though he overpowers him. The scene where superman uses his kineto magnetism whatever powers to fly up, the speeches of both pa kent and jor el are spliced together ending with "...fly son, it's time." meaning that superman has learned to make a choice for himself that he will stick through till the end. He will make mistakes, but he will always keep on trying. And the best part is, both pa kent and jor el don't tell clark directly to save mankind, he just does it because he's a good person, and both pa kent and jor el don't need to tell him that too, because they know what kind of person clark is/will be. That's also why Flash time travelling from the knightmare timeline to warn bruce in BvS was so essential. Without that mistake on flash's end reassuring bruce of his decision to fight superman, superman would have fallen for the anti life later down the line when darkseid inevitably kills lois. I don't know about you, but what I've explained is up to par with how dc writes their stories, at least, for the new 52, which, btw, was what geoff johns wanted zack snyder to follow in the making of MoS.
I rewatched it again yesterday after years and appreciate it even more now. I never caught why the planet blew. How ironic that the kryptonians were around so long and couldn’t solve their energy crisis.
@Phil Mcahkiner I'm late. I believe whether or not if they followed the comics, it's was brainiac who cause the core of the plant to become unstable. By misleading them to drill into it or he did it himself. he was a computer at the time made by the kryptonian
Everyone speaks about how good Michael Shannon was in this movie. But few mention how good Russell delivers his lines. He captivates all the attention with a calm voice full of authority and confidence. For the amount of screen time he has, it's amazing how key his character and his lines are for the movie.
@datboikodjia2693 me too, I've told ppl that didn't want to watch it bc of the negative hate to watch the 1st 15 minutes. They've all ended up liking it. Prolly not as much as me but none turned it off.
You have the "Salkindverse"/Christopher Reeve snobs out there that will lambast and poo-poo MoS, but if there was a way to combine the elements of the "Salkindverse" Superman with the "Snyderverse" Superman, you would probably come up with the best core element of the DCEU, one that could stand out on its own even without the Justice League.
“My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.”
Picture the brotherhood similarly: Jor-El and General Zod; Optimus Prime and Megatron. Both shared a connection, but their beliefs are what set them apart and made them enemies.
To be honest as one who grew up on the "Salkindverse"/Christopher Reeve movies, the MoS version of Krypton is not only the closest we have to the Krypton in the comics, but also incorporated elements from the 1986 DC Comics "Man of Steel" miniseries, of which the core (which in MoS, imploded due to overmining), exploded in a similar manner due to "The Destroyer" (a thermonuclear weapon designed to cause a chain reaction in Krypton's core, which was mostly uranium instead of iron like Earth's core). While the MoS movie Krypton diverges greatly fron comic, what I like about the MoS movie Krypton is the presence of a lush world (similar to the fictional accounts of Venus prior to the Mariner 2 mission in 1962 of a cloud-covered tropical world with dinosaur-like creatures like that on Earth back in the Mesozoic Era) instead of the white crystalline-like architecture on the stark-black sky save for the portions of the "Salkindverse" Krypton that faced Rao ("Red Krypton Sun" in the "Salkindverse" films).
Well zod was trying to save krypton there and then to save his race on find an new planet even one that inhabited to become new krypton he had good intentions just an bad way of going out about if u view it from the viewers standpoint
Also zod actons was justified as the leaders of his race wasn’t taking immediate actions so his revolt was justified as he truly felt if they dont do anything now his race and home is doomed zod was the actual good guy in the movie doing what ever it took to save his people and ether find an new home or save his planet but from clark standpoint and ours he the bad guy cause we only see him doing well bad guy things hell at first he never was gonna kill clark or really any humans he wanted to get clark and if the planet was habitable make it new krypton well kill the humans part was more like only what was needed and casualties that came with it as he and his team never actually set out to harm any human they ether ignore them or slapping the few who was attacking them but once cark showed he wasn’t going with them they changed there plans into capturing him to trying to kill him cause he wasn’t joining them also i fill like if zod had noticed that earth is like 3x better the krypton and there sun gives them more abilities that they had dormant he most likely would have never use his tera former on the earth as it was already super habitable for his race more so as it increased there strength and unlocks there abilities just because there was an yellow sun
@@kasadam85 well true but everyone has the own opinions but that doesn’t mean he was going to stright out kill or disown the ones that did it he just didn’t like it at the time he has an son on another earth phantom zone
@@resukiotusakya2243 >he was never gonna kill any humans at first He always wanted the planet as foundation. This entailed killing all humans, which he made very clear he saw as monkey people, and therefore didn’t care. He was hardly a good guy lol, as even his intentions for “saving his planet” weren’t completely pure (he wanted to establish himself as ruler) Don’t make it seem like he never actually meant ill towards men lol, him and his crew specifically threatened, attacked and killed many human lives needlessly, all because they explicitly made it clear they did not give a fuck about human lives. What the fuck is this cope? Doing “whatever it takes” to save people who are inevitably doomed to die doesn’t make you a good person lol, it makes you a selfish jackass because it’s inherently needless. To try and terraform earth to *bring back people who are already dead* isn’t good intentions at all, they’re inherently malicious and selfish. That makes Zod a bad person. Plain and simple. There is absolutely no imperative to save people who are literally already dead or doomed to die via the pain and suffering of others. Literally the only thing you can give him credit for is trying to take action against his corrupt government to save his people but even then, his intentions weren’t the purest so ultimately it doesn’t mean much. To give Zod a little bit more credit here: it’d be pretty idiotic to bring back billions of people on a small planet and give them all the power to fucking destroy that planet, and considering not all kryptonians were good… yeah no, terrible idea.
Why does the coolest stuff happen before the events of the movie kick off? Example: The War on Krypton, The War on Cybertron, The battle with Darkseid. 😭😭
jor el vs zod here is a reflection of my own inner turmoil. I know that something must be done, but to take action means to abandon my perception of honor and kindness.
The fall of an empire, Russell Crowe again falling to the sword of a madman, though himself clearly a master of the sword, and finally seeing his son again in the next life, this all feels like an homage to Gladiator. And it is absolutely glorious.
Zods acting and deliverance of his face expressions and lines make him an outstanding character in this movie .. I just love him and I can feel the pain and emotion in his words like you’re there next to him . I was so sad when he was killed .❤
They should make a film or series that led to the downfall of krypton. This is such a good interpretation from superman golden age where we believed krypton to resemble paradise.
If you think about it Zod was more right than Jor. Zod was fighting for change because the world was dying while Jor was defending the ones which brought it to this state.
This movie not only has the MOST AWESOME FIGHT SCENES…. But it’s actually pretty damn cool: How did people hate this movie? Why did it take over 10 years to make people realize this movies greatness? It’s because of that, and that alone, for why Cavill didn’t get a second Man of Steel…. I can’t get anyone to watch this movie, lol; it’s just so good
This scene shows how powerful the bond was between zod and jor-el. They didn't agree on everything for sure, but there was a strong mutual respect because they wanted to save their people in their own way. General zod just had enough of the politics and Jor-el chose a different pathway in order to save their people through his son.
The irony being that Zod was in a way "the good guy". Jor El being the Batman character trying to protect the very system that has is destroying their world and people.
This movie sucks. Superman acting like a brooding moody idiotic edgelord throughout the movie, yelling at his parents and calls them _not_ his real parents despite them raising him, letting his own dad die for nonsensical reasons when he could easily save him without divulging his powers to the public, superman avoids barfights to avoid attention, yet instead sticks a man's 18 wheeler in a tree, his own father says he should let a bus full of children die to protect his identity, superman elects to have prolonged fight scenes in crowded cities without showing any attempt to divert the fight elsewhere, haphazardly destroying skyscrapers and killing hundreds of people, and finally deciding to kill his entire race while they're in embryotic form for no reason. This movie fails on a logical, thematic, and adaptive level. It is a shallow, vapid, poorly-written joke that only holds up due to brainlet snyder-fans lack of scrutiny.
Zod was right. We need a General Zod. Someone to force survival of our species. At this rate, we can’t keep up with the speed at which our foolishness, arrogance, and ignorance puts us into decline. 😔🙏😈👊
Krypton was in ruin, and the planet was set to self-destruct. Zod was not wrong in his outrage. If he didn't make a move, the entire race would disappear. He was the Thanos of D.C. 🤔
To be honest…….Zod kinda had a point……..they allowed politics to destroy their race and their planet. I don’t agree with how Zod later on decided to try and destroy another civilization for his own, but…….his initial assessment on Krypton was correct…….to me at least.
WTF. Is he choking down a hand-full of marshmallows while saying his lines? (Apologies if this is not a creative decision and you do in fact have a soeech impairment Mr Shannon)
I don’t like how everyone comments the same thing. Like, read the comments first than follow like sheep in a thread. It’s in every shorts comment thread. This was a good movie. Great performance by both actors. What else can be said?
I can't help but picture another 2 actors in these roles. Upon further review the actors were all wrong. Or maybe it needed a better director or better dialogue. This scene left a lot of meat on the bone. I can't help but picture Hugo Weaving as Zod or Oscar Isaac for a younger version.
After the clownshow dc has become, kinda like the lawmakers zod dethroned here😂😂 endless debates, even complete do overs, changing the best actors,this movie seems even better It was already my favourite dc movie when i first saw it.
I wish we got a full krypton movie tbh these scenes were all gold and the battles were awesome, the armour and characters all very well played out. Even Zod during a coup respected Dur El Also he may have gone about it in the wrong way but Zod was 100% correct here in trying to overthrow the council and take control to save his people and planet. Dur El long predicted it and essentially done nothing and let his people die
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