Management Estimate USD$1,900,000 For Pekora To Make Her Own Game【Hololive/Usada Pekora】 

"You will get money 2,3m from doing what I said" He is definitely going to scare of getting scammed by me, right?

Still no Kay Yu game that Pekora in it😂

​@@kurgknyank He's her oshi too... But, I can understand the pressure of trying to make her in-game assets perfectly fit her streaming personality is probably a huge wall for him.

​@@ccg2301: did you mean she's his oshi?

@@kurgknyank Soon man, soon. The next update for Holocure should be Gen 3 after all.

@@shinyhappyrem8728 Did I stutter?... Yeah, sorry my mistake. Lmao

2 million is insanely cheap for a video game so I would assume this was actually a very simple project. I know it sounds like a lot but think of this Like 60k per developer (low end of the scale there). 20 developers times 2 years is 2.4 million. So this project would be made by like 15 developers I guess. Probably some kind of mobile game, I don't even think they could make a JRPG for that much.

@@bobpotato1231 what are you talking about? 2million usd is pretty much bigger scale. it wont finish 1-2month like other indie games

60k isn't low end for Japan sadly. Got a friend who works there in software in a higher position making a bit over that.

$1m is tiny even for an indie project. That's like a 2-4 person indie studio. I mean, unless pekora wanted to make a gatcha mobile game. It really depends on what she asked for.

@@bobpotato1231 A short jrpg in rpg maker would be easy, even with 25k... but like, the last of us cost 250mil, also an rpg. Palworld, a buggy mess of a game made on a shoestring budget by crazy people still cost $7mil. You should probably just budget 100k per dev, and keep in mind that other costs (management, org, planning, ads/pr will eat about half of the budget, maybe only 1/4 for pekora since she's the ad)... 1m is probably a 2-4 dev team. I guess holocure would be the comparison? That might cost $750k or so if a paid studio made it.

Hey, since you seem to know cost of game development, can I ask you how much a game like "Life on Mars: Genensis" made by Kai Magazine software cost?

@@kos2919 There would have been a lot of odd costs for that game due to the wild style and ancient system choice. They wouldn't have had the tooling or education that original genesis devs would have had, so they likely had to roll a lot of tools themselves. And they probably heavily leveraged the open source community which would have lowered costs a ... chaotic amount. I don't think it is a good game to make comparisons from.

@@Idiomatick Oh no no no, I'm asking because I was thinking about making similar game. I love Genesis era games.

@@kos2919 If you're making it yourself, you should be thinking about hours/years rather than budget directly. Not that budgeting is bad, but realistically most of the cost would be your time.

Proceeds to commit warcrimes 😂

as long as elite npc maidens are n word yelling roof campers

Also, 2 million is on the low end, depending on the timeframe we're looking at. Darkest Dungeon (1) is a relatively simple game (in concept. The final release ended up being an instant cult classic with incredible polish), and yet it gobbled up 300k USD from their kickstarter + 9 months of unpaid work by the main team + an unknown amount of money after first release.

And we need to remember paying Japanese or Western devs are expensive due to higher living cost. She probably can try to reduce the cost by outsourcing it to Indonesian game devs. But the amount of quality game devs in Indonesia. It's easier to find high quality artists and musicians than game devs in Indonesia.

Yeah She should use unreal engine to cut cost. I can make simple good looking game with it

@@BeforeON3 And use store bought assets? Sorry but even Pekora has a line they don't cross

@@kos2919 Are you implying using store bought assets is disgraceful? It certainly is, if they are done badly by a AAA company. Smaller or indie devs can certainly benefit to ready to use assets. And using unreal engine does not mean you can't make the models from scratch either

When you're talking millions it's not so simple. Selling at 10 dollars per sale making 2 million would take 200k sales. That's not a small amount and you cant guarantee that much just from "being pekora"

@@bobpotato1231 Also if you had whaling techniques, to suck money from rich addicts, it would simply pull money away from her superchats. You'd need to look at how much it boosts revenue overall. It could help grow the brand though even if it doesn't make money.

@@bobpotato1231 Yeah my comment isn't supposed to be taken so serious.. but yes Pekora could fund raise a lot and Cover could back her up too if they really wanted to. She is a massive earner and often the top female streamer these days. The logistics? I'm kinda drunk and dont know and dont care lol.

How did Yogventures turn out?

Do you really have any trust in Pekora to make a game though? lmao

Kickstarting something should have clear steps and objective beforehand, not "I don't know how game developing works, but I need a lot of money to develop game lol"

@@gundamgames6092 If its pekora alone maybe not, but she's in hololive. There's already 3 of them that released their own games ( aqua, ollie and marine ). cover corp themselves has created games on their own, there's also holoindie if need be.

They aren’t cheap at all. The price tag is low because most of them need updating, and even when you do update them they cost a fortune to heat power and maintain. The only way to afford the upkeep is to use it for a business. My cousin owns one and my friend’s family inherited one both could never be used as actual residences because they’d be literal money pits without the income they generate

a girl with pride like her? noway. she know she a big vtuber, her mama say that she is selfish.

Elden Ring is estimated to have cost around 100 million USD. Keep in mind that From Soft has been making games on the Dark Souls engine/style for a while, meaning their costs are significantly LOWER than you'd expect.

@@Gabu_The engine is old, but not that old. Also because it’s an in house engine they aren’t paying a licensing fee. Elden Ring’s world building was all done by Martin who was given total freedom. So the game’s storyline and everything in it was created based on the feedback they got from him, meaning they were severely limited when it came to reusable resources. The game was also in development for 10 years so those are the things that increased the cost By comparison Unreal charges a licensing fee, but they also have the largest library of free and licensable 3D assets as well as bunch of pre generated stuff that’s built in like basic walk cycles and character models. Using their stuff can save you a lot of time and money instead of doing everything from scratch

@@TheJjcczz No good game is using trashy store assets or default walk cycles. Also, the Capra-Fucking-Demon, one of their oldest Bosses, was reused in Elden Ring... Please, avoid being confidently incorrect.

lol. it was estimated. there no way you know the price before came to negotiation

They do have a dedicated staff division that is handling an ongoing development of an official hololive game. Her manager probably contacted and got the estimation from them.

they are making holo earth now, so they do have a in house game development department

If it were a Souls-like Open World game, it'd cost at least 10x as much.

@@Gabu_ 10x is an understatement, specially if its open-world.

it'll be conservative for sure but yeah game development is expensive that's why so many indie games are spearheaded by the programmers or someone that can also program since they can "pay" themselves way less than a programmer would cost to hire.

Wasn't that Megaman like game on kickstarter need $2 millions.

Pixel games can also exceed high budgets. Sea of Stars had a crowd funded budget of 1.17 million USD, and they received further funding after that. If Kay Yu wasn't such a talented guy making games out of passion with other passionate contributors, HoloCure would definitely in the budget of a few hundred thousand to make, there's so many characters, enemies and animations to make in that game. You're conflating all pixel games together, not every pixel game is an RPGMaker game.

2 million sound a lot for a video game but you need to realize that cyberpunk 2077 cost $400 million to make

@@PomuLeafEveryday I wonder how many development hours Holocure has had. You can calculate the approximate cost based on the dev time for that game multiplied by the wage an employer would pay for that many work hours. It is hard to say exactly how much time went into it, but say the employer pays 150$'s for each work hour (Which is way more than the average game dev would cost to employ, like 5-10 times more), to have Holocure cost even 100.000$'s, it would require 666 work hours (Funny number) at that exorbitant price. I don't know if Holocure would take more or less work hours, but it is fairly reasonable to say that it can be made in less work hours by a few experienced developers and artists working on it consistently, and realistically it would cost more like 50$'s per work hour for the employer, so it really shouldn't be that expensive to make this. The character designs and animations can also be outsourced to some artists, and even a competent artist can do that level of work for no more than a few thousand dollars, heck, artists wouldn't dare ask that much even for a few sprites and sprite animations for 40 ish characters. So, the art development can be completed for no more than 10k, then the programming is not particularly difficult to do for any decent programmer, so Holocure should really not cost more than 20-30k to make realistically. Even if we want to pay very generously (Which I am already doing with this calculation), getting to 100k is quite hard for Holocure.

Sometimes tthings you can pay for with cash, you cant actually afford. Thats why you got alot of people over here in america with 2024 vehicles, and broke af lol.

She has 300 millions in bank, but spending a sum that almost all your wealth is not affordable.

@@NousagiCaptain *sweats*

Majority of games on Steam released by indie developers don't break even. They are made by developers that use their own savings to make a game. 2 millions is enough to hire a team of like 15 reasonably experienced developers to make a game for 12 months.

@@kaminekoch.7465 Many of these developers do everything themselves, and they get by either from other sources of income or savings, and the game when it sells a decent amount of copies, actually does make them money because they don't pay a lot of development costs, just time investment, since they usually do it all themselves. Almost none will be the next Vampire Survivors, but those who do fine get money out of it while being able to do what they like, enough to work on it full time and live from the money, it is not that bad.

she may want to make AA or AAA game

​@normalguy5583 AAA games cost much much more to make, we talking more than 50M usd up to the hundreds

@@normalguy5583 AAA costs 100 millions , 1-2m for B grade game is very feasible , since you have to hire a studio if you don't do anything yourself

i don't think she talk about pixel game. she talk about some cheap price 1st, then the price 2m come when she ask for some other thing. maybe she ask about AA or AAA game

Nope. We're talking about a game made by a company that absolutely has to pay its employees, not an indie game made by volunteers.

@@Gabu_ good point 👍🏼

Undertale RAISED 50k, the development took 32 months which is like 160k in development costs at a conservative 5k a month for a single person.

@@kaminekoch.7465 You have to be realistic here and realize that those weren't 32 months of full time work. More like, the singular dev spend time doing work semi consistently some days certainly he'd be doing more work, other days he'd be doing almost nothing. I'm fairly certain the total development time would be more in line with a years worth of full time work, and game devs are lucky if they get paid enough to cost their employer 5k a month for full time work (Literally, which game studio pays a 3k+ wage to their employees?), so that 50k would basically get there just fine for a game like Undertale.

Most programmers and game designers aren't the Undertale guy. That's like saying (insert olympic athlete here) can run a marathon in world record time. Sure, they can, but that doesn't mean everyone running a marathon will.

Realistically speaking... Undertales graphics are extremely Simplistic... and so are the Animations. If you are taking about a higher quality of pixel art... with actual depth of shading and details... the artwork alone would cost a Large sum of time and Money. I once worked for free, helping to direct a few artists, for a programmers developing game remake (Isometric 2d engine game). A single character, and every animation sequence for them... was quite an involved process. First, I had to design the Enemy, how it generally looked, the color palette, how it moved and attacked... and then I had to convey that to 2d and 3d artists, for them to create. Often something would not be correct... such as it not looking right, not moving properly... etc. As such, several revisions had to be made... each taking a certain amount of time, and efforts. I am a Casual artist / Concept artist... so I cleaned up the images, making them look a bit better... but I wasnt anywhere near good enough, to do the complete process, on my own. Unfortunately, there was a problem with the programmer... in his inability to make the main character control properly (acceleration issues, likely due to not locking things to the games framerate). That, and various artists would complete a single animation project... then quit. Eventually the while project imploded. The one good thing that came from it... was that due to all of the constant emails and IM's... I went from being a fairly slow two finger typist.. into a no-look dual hand typist... with pretty darn good typing speeds! I also gained quite a bit more experience, with graphics programs. That said, I never could really get decent with 3d Programs. Way too confusing for my brain.