My boss found out I had a second job to pay off student loans. He gave me a raise the next week and asked me to quit the other job. That's how you do it.
I worked at a movie theater chain and they had a rule that you couldn't work at a competitor for your second job, because you might share corporate secrets....but like what secrets? How to scoop popcorn? How to sweep an auditorium? What secrets????!!!???
I think they don't want a leak of experienced personnel. Employees could compare work conditions and they already work fast and confident and could improve the service quality of their competitors. But a company can't write that reason in a contract, so yeah. The secrets of pouring popcorn in a cup
They just made these kind of non-compete agreements illegal btw. They have nothing to do with “trade secrets”-it’s just a way to keep salaries and mobility down. If you can’t use your current job experience to move to another job at a different movie theater across town for more money or a manager position or whatever, your options are significantly constrained to the benefit of your employer. They can keep your wage low because it’s a lot harder to move to a different field (even in “low” level jobs) than it is to transfer between different companies doing the same basic thing. After all, the number one thing people look for on resumes is relevant experience-by eliminating that option for you your boss gains leverage.
A boss wants to know if you have kids because he needs to know if he will have to compete for your time and attention. A bad manager wants to know why you dont have kids, because it's like a personality test, knowing someone who would let you start a family with her.
@@Bella_Noire Not only that, but if they did agree to this, you'd probably be getting overpaid, relative to what everyone else is getting. So then at the end of the year when they're going over the department budget, and they look to see what they can cut, they notice you're the high-cost employee for your position.
@@jackuzi8252 almost like a lot of businesses are running into the fact that if everyone in the economy is increasing prices by 30% that wages also need to go up as well (wages are on average around 20-30% of a business' expenses, so if you're raising your prices by 20% out of necessity, you should raise them by 27% and raise wages by 27% as well, instead most American corporations have needed to raise prices by 15%, raised prices by 30%, and raised wages by 0%
“We’d also prefer if you didn’t have any hobbies, a spouse or children, or really any interests outside of work. Frankly we thought we took care of that with how little we paid you. We just really need you to focus.”
It’s extra frustrating when they ask you about hobbies etc during interviews and you get passed up when you don’t seem interesting but your working too much to have hobbies 🫠
I 100% think that any job that asks any questions about your personal time needs to be forced to pay you at least half your hourly rate around the clock.
Of course they do. US government employees cant even visit China without getting permission let alone work for their government at the same time. Think before you type next time.
@@jay15951 Holy crap that is an absolutely insane take. No lol. I'm saying that people should be paid according to the value they bring and the value their skills are worth. A job that literally everyone can do should pay just enough to live on. Which it does in most states, by the way, if people were smarter with their money.
My manager at the "second job" (which became my only priority) told me this too because he knew I had another job, but I explained to him that the "first job" gives me 0 hours, never gives me work to do, and I'm only with them for the benefits and government taxes 😂 and my manager was like "oh okay 🙂" and never asked about it ever again cus he knows I'm livin the 3rd-world country disabled worker life, he got my thought process 😂 best manager I've ever had (and still have!)
Im now 61 yrs old and I can say this issue used to be HUGE back in the 80s and even 90s. I was totally shocked the first time I heard a manager say we don't allow employees to have a second job. Where do you get the idea that you have any right to tell me what to do outside my work hours here?
Employers forget that employment is a *transaction*, not servitude. I am selling my time to the employer for an agreed upon rate. The rest of the time, that I choose not to sell? That's mine, it doesn't belong to the company.
@michaelslator64 Because the wealth your describing that puts the US at the top of the earnings ladder is concentrated into about 0.98% of the US population. If you're not a multimillionaire who's already clambering their way up to that summit, then the distinction between "comfortable quality of life with disposable income" and "Barely above paycheck to paycheck" falls off really fast.
@@MattyNelson-rs3ik I know someone very close to me who got divorced. He has young children and had to make ends meet so he picked up a side gig at McDonald's. They worshipped him there, lol. They wanted to make him a part time manager. But he made the mistake of telling his main employer that he picked up a part time job. His boss at his full time job immediately put him on a PIP and told him he could either stay at his main job or go work at McDonald's full time. Take it from me, your part time job will definitely be more lenient with you. If not, find a new part time job
I had a shift job and a second job so one time shift boss decides he's gonna punish me with no hours,so I call him to verify that this was final schedule and I said "it's OK, I just wanted to make sure because I can work my other job with same day notice "....he couldn't hide his anger that I had other options
Once worked at a restaurant that had me working four days a week, I was satisfied. I wasn’t the best at my job but it was fine. So I decided I’d get another job to cover the weekends for extra money. Well, I guess someone I worked with told him or mentioned it and suddenly I find that slowly, each week my schedule was less and less full with my desired hours. He kept lying and saying “ oh it’s just slow” or “oh, there’s too many staff working today you get a break” but I could tell that wasn’t it because we had no less customers than was normal each day, I always had something to do while I was on shift, and we always seemed to be understaff- quite the opposite. By the time I was down to one day a week I knew that the manager was trying to find the nicest way possible to get me to leave. So I straight up told him that my second job didn’t pay much more than this job and the weekends were mine to do as I please and I chose to earn extra money because he won’t give me weekend hours. He told me he still couldn’t and I’m like, “ ok, fine, I don’t want to be stuck working so little for next to nothing in wage so I’ll find another job.” I put in my 2 weeks but spent that time looking for a new job, while still keeping the other job. At the moment I’m in another rut and I dread having to deal with this situation yet again, because there’s no way for me to survive on one job alone. 😩
Well the manager already knew the answer, but you don’t think she had the authority to do anything about it do you? The people that make those decisions are rarely in the room with employees affected by them.
That's a bad manager. A good manager doesn't care about you and exploits you for the company or business. You think employers wanna pay you more or help you? Yeah they might if it benefits them.
Nah, a manager shouldn't care one way or the other - as long as the employee is doing what he/she is supposed to be doing, when it is supposed to be done, nothing else is the manager's concern.
@roaroa5291 was not racist more of a prejudice, but you were close. Also, ask other women how they operate, and you will be surprised how many people admit to the microagressions of white people in the workplace . Not all white people just a large amount.
It's literally the manager's job to interrupt people who are trying to do their job to complain about them not getting more work done by taking up time they could be spending on working, didn't you know?
Yea until you meet them outside their house when you’re just “walking the dog” and it so happens to be around his house. Nothing gets the message across clearer. You mess with me at work…I know where you live. 😘
Even though this is scripted, it paints a very dark picture about how corporations and management macro and micro manage unnecessarily. It's an attempt to keep people on pins and needles, but what this really does is create resentment and disloyalty.
Exactly. They could have good, dedicated workers but instead they annoy the crap out of people treating them like children until they don't wanna do jack for them anymore... -_-
That's true but it's all about them wanting to control workers. That's why I save as much money as I can even when I didn't make much so that if my bosses started to act crazy I could leave and still cover my expenses.
Thank God I never had a problem being an RN.you could work 3 jobs if you wanted..lol..I never did,,worked 3 twelve hour shifts per week at my regular job and maybe 1 extra day in the week..but for some reason lots of people believed I worked 2 jobs 7 days a week...
*EMPLOYERS!!!* STOP PAYING LIKE CRAP AND YOUR EMPLOYEES WON'T NEED SECOND JOBS! YOU CREATED A MULTI-JOB ECONOMY, SO YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT UNTIL YOU GET RID OF IT! DUH!
My old assistant manager told me this when he found out that I was delivering Newspapers in the early morning hours and I told him to "I asked my DAD's lawyer and he told me to tell you to, "Make me full time here and I won't have to give you my 2 week's notice to fulfill your demands." It took him until the last of the next 14 days until he told me at the last minute that he would change me to Full-time. On Monday when I walked in I went to his office and asked for my new schedule and his secretary brushed me off until I sat there a half hour. Then he came out and told me to go to work, so I left and left him and that place, forever.
That’s why I’m a skilled union construction worker. I don’t need a second job, and if they tried some stupid control freak shit- I’ll leave that company and be working somewhere else. Employers should fear losing employees- not employees fear losing a job. That’s freedom.
First we would need to unionize all industries so we can all have equal protection against employer retaliation. Most jobs are at will so employers can and will fire you on the spot. Of course this also means we can quit on the spot too if they become irrational like this scenario. But a lot of people working multiple jobs don't always have the luxury to just quit unless they have something lined up
@@SL-lz9jr - Lots of labor unions out there covering different industries. Part of the problem is the people. People are selfish, and lean towards corruption. Big corp union busting PR firms know this, so when a big strike is going on they swoop in, bribe, lie, and break down solidarity. I’m not just referring to officials, but also individuals.
@@zuzumontague Take that Hate-Lite somewhere else. Unions don’t hire undocumented immigrants, but we do hire people of all ethnicities. Maybe you can go down to Eagle Pass for the next caravan Putin sets up for his allies who are happy when Americans attack Americans.
i work for a company where the HR was 'happy i was working harder than my coworkers". that same HR department then threatened to write me up if i ever lowered my work rate to the level of my coworkers.
One of my professors got an "off the record" talking to from one of the colleges she worked at because they would prefer if she only worked for them and its not fair to work for competition, mind you they were a state funded college and the other was private and its a science college so no competition can be applied, she held 2 courses on both. They gave her an ultimatum and she quit. They lost the best teacher and scientist in her field in this country because they were being petty and thought they could blackmail her.
Manager: "Girl, I get it. It's tough out there. We'd just prefer it if you lived in poverty while we do nothing to improve your conditions. Also, we need to you work christmas."
Telling someone they can't have a second job is one of the most ILLEGAL things a company can do, short of discrimination. Any retaliation on the company's part could result in major litigation and settlement.
I got a second job to pay for my broken furnace and my boss came up to my desk and said that HR was "dissapointed". To this day, im still don't understand what that means or what he was trying to accomplish.
My manager at my now-part time job flipped out about the same issue too, until I told him point blank that "I didn't want to go out and get one, but the changes that YOU have been making around here recently made it very hard for me not to." Someone told me that managers can literally smell employees who are door mats and who think that they wouldn't find something/somewhere else better. Make me really think about it.
I had a job where the boss did this and even fired me when I wouldn't quit my 2nd job. The other job was on the weekends only and wouldn't get in the way of me doing the 1st job. The boss told me it made her and her business look bad that I had 2nd job so I had to go if I couldn't devote myself😒🙄. I thought this sort of thing was illegal cause it really should be
The boss was concerned that you made the business look bad by working a second job. The boss made the business look bad by firing you. I guess that was the concern, your boss wanted to be the one to make the business look bad.
You can have A- my complete attention as my only job, for a wage that guarantees I can cover my living expenses B- let me work my two jobs as is my right and necessity or C- I leave *this job,* which means I now have to hassle to find a new 2nd job (which you clearly don't care about) *and you* now have to interview, negotiate with, hire, onboard, train and abuse a new stooge (which you probably don't want to do). Your call.
I had this conversation a few years back because I was still bouncing at bars on Friday and Saturday nights. I made roughly half of my weekly pay in two nights. The owner actually gave me a substantial raise to stop working at bars on the weekends. I still do it every once and a while, lol.
If it’s a job not on the main job’s hours and not conflicting with the company itself, who cares? These companies want total control over you. It’s ridiculous.
I don't think it's meant to be hyperbolic. I think it's simply meant to show people who may have been gaslit into thinking otherwise that companies have NO RIGHT to pull &&&& like this.
Manager just casually drops the "conflict of interest" accusation and then has zero follow up. Conflict of interest would be an issue. But if it isn't there, then the accusation is just manipulative.
If it was a competitor, or an organisation that the employer does business with there might (but not necessarily) be a conflict of interest. More likely, the employer wants to have more scope to push things like unpaid overtime and excessive contact with the employee out of working hours.
I wonder if people will finally realize that elections have consequences. I sure don't mind paying $15 per pound for american cheese as long as the bad orange man doesn't tweet mean thing anymore. 😂
Not only does my boss know about my second job, but he also subscribed to the site and leaves positive comments on my posts to boost readership. That's how it should be.
“… it’s just very important for our employees, our staff to be dependent on the company and not have any options or ability to leave us if/when we decide to mistreat you.”
During interview with American Red Cross the lady firmly said "oh you can't work a 2nd job" after I asked about the schedule. I said excuse me? That's anti-american. I do what I want. 😂
Bro as a gm I know I can't pay my employees livable wages I encourage them to get second jobs that I will actively work around or even a better paying job I'm always a good reference for my people if they are good to me
It would never have occurred to me to tell them I had a second job. As long as you can manage the two schedules not overlapping, there is no need for them to know.
I had to get a second job while working at Petco, and when I told my manager she was super unhappy. I told her I would have to stick to day shifts on certain days as my second job would be nights only, not that I couldn't work the 39 hours a week (because I was "part time" so wasn't allowed 40 hours or OT) but just that like 3 days a week I needed morning to afternoon shifts. She cut my hours down to barely 24 a week...to "help me juggle both jobs". Among other issues I had there, this added to my eventual walking out on shift and quitting. Fun part was she tried to withhold my last paycheck over some shirts (which she didn't know how many and which work shirts I even owned). I kept the shirts, and my paycheck. Managers want people to focus on one job, then pay their employees a wage that doesn't require a second job to survive.
Baebayyyy, keep them folks out your business. A coworker came in announcing her new home purchase. Chile, the next month they started “streamlining” the department. Guess who made the cut? I stan Veronica! ❤😂😂😂
IKR? Manager is flat out lying. "Our people". They are not "yours" nor do you even consider them "people". If she did, the manager might have actually given her the salary she needs to not need two jobs, but no, she just said "Girl I know what you're getting at- " and I call for a full stop, right there: *NO YOU DO NOT.* LOL
We were saying that 40 years ago. Some are slow learners. Only thing different today is social media. Companies can, do, and will spy on you. It's your business to obfuscate what you do. It's none of anyone's business...especially your employer's. You owe them nothing because they will kick you to the curb on a moments notice.
Thats what its all about, they dont want u to have a fail safe second job because they cant control u. My company tried that b.s too and i told them to go ahead and try to fire me cause ill sue ur ass off. Its all about controlling you. Im not controllable. I like having the say so .
I remember i flat out got notified that effective immediately I am not “allowed” to have a second job while employed with them. I was dumbfounded mind you I let them know there was no conflict of interest and didn’t connect with the same clients etc. But nope got notified again and they ended communication. Wild
I worked ten hours a week for 6.85/hour at a Canadian Tire gas bar in the 90s. Also had a construction job that was 40 hours at $15/hour. My manager at the gas bar straight face told me I should be prioritizing my gasbar job.
That’s why if it doesn’t conflict with my hours I don’t even mention having a second job and I make sure the two jobs never overlap in hours. They always get super jealous when they do find out like, look guys, I only earn 7.25 an hour at my second job, you do not need to worry about me quitting the job that pays me just a little more than that. I don’t have the patience to try and argue pay raises when I know I’m not going to get it.
The fact that she even approached her about what they “prefer” is vile. None of their business what she does off hours. If they paid better, she wouldnt need one.
One of the big reasons they don't want you to have that second job is so they can count on your desperation to keep them as an employer to get you to do whatever they want you to.
I relate to SO many of these videos because I have NEVER understood how employers think they have ANY say on what you do outside of their office when you're off the clock and act SO surprised and put out when you explain this to them as Veronica has so succinctly.
They kept telling me "This is your full-time job; this job should be your priority". Last time, I told them "paying my rent is my priority" and I haven't heard it since.
Lol if i had a manager that tried this i would need it in writing the reason they need me to quit my other job, which has to either include a clause in a contractbi signed or a law that allows them to determine whether i can have a second job. Otherwise i'm asking that manager to stop taking away from my productivity with that conversation xD
I'm in a pharmacy where it almost became a problem for how many worker were with second jobs. Like two three people have flexible hours. Long story short they backed off cuase too many technicians either threaten or outright quit.
