>commie who supposedly opposes big corporations >uncritically takes moral lessons from the most mass-consumed and marketed cape franchise ever to come from a corporation
@Toxic Male Nice, I like the dehumanization. Normally I wouldn't call folks disagreeing with communists nazis but I doubt your profile picture is just "muh irony bruh"
There's multiple human beings that make Destinynsound tolerable. It's just most of us never cared for pewdiepie so the algorithm didn't funnel us towards those cringecucks
Vaush failed to realize that the Iron Man is wearing a suit of high-tech armor and able to repel bullets and take punches from chad 10 foot tall aliens.
@@gstv8453 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VRJcR6V81Ik.html 1:17:45 he literally cut out the clip *just* as Vaush said "just trying to end on a light note". The fact that I have to spoon-feed this to you people proves that you are only slightly less easy to manipulate than an average nematode.
@@Scumlord Dude, I hate those people in the fandom. Like, yeah, I love talking about JoJo, but have SOME boundaries. Real world politics and a story about a family with punchy ghosts and questionable fashion tastes don't mix well.
Soyboys tend to use pop culture to learn their politics so its no surprise there that they would support a movement based on what their favorite movies said. The Saurgon example I'd say is cherry picked considering how a vast majority of his videos don't use pop culture allegories compared to Tim Pool who constantly compares things to Civil War and Endgame. Still, I don't take anything Saurgon or people like him say without a good amount of salt on it.
Even then I’d argue drawing from fiction isn’t inherently bad, the whole point of fiction is to simplify things in order to facilitate interesting discourse just look at how amazingly Star Trek did that back in the day
And the Vaush example isn't cherry picked? It really reveals your bias if you imply he learned his politics from pop culture, since pop culture tells you no accept capitalism without question. And his movement is certainly not based on what his favourite movies said.
"Don't worry guys all of these protests are 100% peaceful! My wife and her boyfriend Tyrone took me down to one in Portland and it looked just like a 5-Star Animal Crossing island! Tyrone got reparations from a local store and got me 5 boxes of Soylent too!" - Vaush probably
It's funny that you think polyamory is synonymous with letting your wife fuck other men. It says more about your insecurity and misogyny than about him.
It's pretty difficult not to call you folks racist when what you use to make fun of someone is "They let black people fuck their girlfriends", man, you must be really really afraid that some black man is gonna take your future girlfriend(Most tend to get out of the incel phase), maybe it's your insecurities ? Vaush never said 100% of the protests are peaceful, however I'm sure if I showed you one of the protests which was peaceful you wouldn't give a flying fuck.
@ What I find most ridiculous about that game is the idea that those hipsters could even muster the will power to adventure and fight and endure the pain and hardship of constant battle like in any other jrpg And from what little I've seen, the writing was like what a first time novelist writes before they learn how to edit and truncate their work, and when they're just using it as a repository for their bad philosophical tangents
*Goes full consoomer mode* " UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ACTUALLY ! Iron man didn't kill civilians in that movie, Iron man good ! We should all be like iron man and not kill civilians, even if we don't have the armor to protect us from an angry mob that wants to tear us apart. *injects pure soylent into bloodstream*
I still can't get over the fact that there's an actual popular meal replacement drink called 'Soylent'. Now, I get that the guy who made that shit named it so for marketing purposes (basically to attract media), but it doesn't change the fact that it's literally a product that promotes forgoing eating - a tradition, a pastime, and a custom - in the name of 'saving time' and possibly money. And, I'm sorry for using that cringe-ass phrase, but it truly, unironically says something about society - we are now expected to spend so much time in the work, sleep and 'entertainment' cycle that we can't spare the time to sit down and chow. They were giving us bread and circuses, UNTIL THEY DECIDED WE COULD DO WITHOUT FUCKING BREAD.
@@ImmortanDan Who is "they"? You know people buy Soylent on their own volition, right? Of course, a bit of dystopian late stage capitalism is at play when you don't even have time for meals. But I believe some personality types are actually quite fine with that.
Skeptics: Lol, the lefties think everything is Harry Potter Also Skeptics: This is just like my manchild movie/anime because I have no real world experience to compare it to so I relate to product and consoom.
How ironic considering that I like an anime videogame that requires hundreds of hours in order to effectively be beaten. At least I don't pretend I'm significant and that I'm changing politics, I know my place and I don't pretend to be a superhero like Soygon or desTINY.
Just like the left with the whole "everything is problematic" you can tell these people aren't grounded in reality. I like anime I like video games but I like them because they're entertaining. I don't care about the hidden messages behind the falling shapes in tetris I'm just trying to beat my old record 🤣
@Cure4Living There's other dystopian literature like _Brave New World_ or _Fahrenheit 451_. Heck, why not use Aesop's Fables? There's something in there for everything.
Brave new world has been popping up as well. No matter how you look at it, people are demoralized so it adds paranoia mixed with entitlement, Mass hysteria and fear mongering is leading us (the u.s anyway) to totalitarianism and that's definitely not good lol I'm just glad people are making jokes about this because that's the best way to prevent it. Mock them and make them a joke.
I find it doubly ironic for Sargon because he used to smugly say "HAVE YOU EVEN READ [BOOK]?" Yet his entire frame of reference is only pop culture fiction garbage
I watched that video, I felt like those comparisons were a little over the top and unnecessary, he definitely didn’t have to repeat “Doom Eternal” like 8 times. But at the same time, Sargon is using Doom as an analogy, and it’s something topical that he’s enjoying in the moment. Vaush is using fictional films as a JUSTIFICATION for his perspectives on life and death situations. Sargon’s view on self defense is irreverent and he’s using an irreverent game as a comparison. Vaush is 100% earnest in preaching that self defense is always unjustified, and he’s using children’s media to back up that outlandish claim.
Yeah...after deliberately crossing borders while carrying a weapon that you are not allowed to carry as a 17 year-old. That was totally self-defense. And even when operating the firearm, no warning shot was given and no none-vital body parts where targeted. Mhm, that was 100% justified self-defense for sure. Without a doubt.
The Doom comparison is cringier than cringe, but at least it doesn't fundamentally destroy his point since his earlier lynching allegory is appropriate. Vaush's thing collapses because it's all about Marvel fiction
Marvel didn’t even seem to fit the example. I mean, Doom was out of left field as well, but I’ll take the guy arguing sense with Doom over the guy arguing suicide with Marvel.
@@ryleygriggs9840 Sargon used the doom reference as an example to a situation on which you, killing the mob, are objectively on the right. If I remember it well, Sargon used the lynching reference more than the Doom one.
I think Sargoy brought up Doom since Eternal includes very pointed satire of lefty politics, the man is very partial to fiction that aligns with his politics It's still cringy, but it's at least accurate, unlike Vaush just trying to use a big popular franchise to help his nonsensical argument
Doom Eternal actually does take swipes at "political correctness" and multiculturalism. There's an AI in the Super Gore Nest that says things like "Earth is the melting pot of the universe" and "Demon is an offensive term. Refer to them as "mutually challenged."" In his defense, Sargon sometimes has a very esoteric way of trying to talk to people on their level, like when he scorned a bunch of white supremacists by saying "you're acting like a bunch of n[Blazing Saddles word]." That's was his way of saying to them; "You're acting exactly like how you say the people you hate act," and he used their own slur against them because he knew it would piss them off. Is it the best way to make a public point? Probably not, but there is some thought out into it. Sargon references Joker and Doom Eternal because those are things he kill l thinks Vaush would likely know about, because he's speaking as though he's taking directly to Vaush. Sargon is obviously more learned than that, but Vaush cites coomsoomerist Marvel movies (incorrectly, I might add) because _he is no deeper than that._
........Okay, Metaphors are one thing, but saying “he shoulda done it just like the 2 hour long toy commercials showed me” is the worst thing ever and by far #1 on my list of reasons to walk out on life.
An angry, stubborn, usually wrong communist who has become a thought leader among youtube leftists, for obvious reasons Has somehow managed to leech off of shoe's notoriety without being confronted about his stupidity
The sheer emphasis that Sargon puts on the word “doom” would make you think that he’s saying it as a joke Sadly we know him too well for that to be the case
It started as a meme about zombies. If their was a zombie apocalypse the woke left would say undead lives matter (dead rising already did this though with the zombie rights activists lol) but yeah they would cuck down to the demons from doom that was a joke long before sargon brought it up and the uac in eternal represents corporations that just pander instead of helping with social issues.
To be fair I felt more like Sargon was lowering himself to vaush level than anything else, not that he is much of a genius in the first place but vaush is truly scrap of the barrel.
When a mob attacks you have to stand your ground they're usually full of cowards you can't apologize or reason with them. It's ugly and it turns my stomach but hell yeah black or white if your life is danger fight back
The unbelievable cringe of Vaush's argument is multiplied by the fact that it doesn't even make logical sense A hero being framed as a bad guy by some scheme? There being more marvel movies than videos of people being killed on liveleak? What the fuck was he even attempting to communicate with those arguments?
" BLM is like the Black panthers Marvel's movie,and racism is like that Movie I watched in Mom's basement( star wars: Rise of Skywalker)." - Man-child in Politics, Babies first 101.
@@theylivewesleep.5139 but its not trivial, if you watched the stream, that was just extra fluff to his point of defending yourself, it doesn't do anything to his point. if he was politician that used it than it would hurt him, but hes a content creator. commentary channels do it all the time (including EZ PZ), but detractors and platforms strawman the fluff rather than actually looking at their main point.
I don't think there is anything wrong with both Sargon and Vaush talking politics. I personally can't find an issue with them that makes them man children.
I stopped watching him in 2016 when I realized he was more of a Lefty than he let on. The majority of skeptics were and are just radical leftwingers themselves LARPing as moderates
I grew tired of him when he explicitly said he just wanted to return to 1980's politics and he continuously rejected even considering ideas outside that [current year]'s Overton Window.
The vaush one was with the purpose of ending on a light note as far as I remember. It was about what was the general perception to what was going to happen when you surrender to a mob that it's trying to stop you. Comparing someone who tells that "you are on the side of the demons" and someone who used a popular medium to show public belief about the action of surrender(could have used a better example tbf) is a bit weird. If you want, a really good one is sam seder and tim pool talking about thanos and capitan america with sam saying he doesn't give a damn.
@@NihilisticIdealist Joker and Doom Eternal both have pretty explicit political shit in them. It is kinda cringe tho. In Sargon’s case I think it’s just to make his point more amusing but it isn’t that funny.
Yes, sitting back and letting people destroy your community is totally common sense This logic does not apply to the ones doing the rioting, because they're the aggressor, and therefore they are not in danger unless someone else defends themselves, so they're morally justified in being there
@@Lazypackmule yeah but thing is that wasn't Rittenhouse's community. The kid came from an entirely different state. A case could be made for the militia but from what I heard the militia didn't kill anyone
@@asuagborasuagbor8803 It was his community though, a state line happening to exist in the middle of the 20 minute drive between his house and the city he worked in does not make it some magically separate place that he has no connection to Though, that is an argument that can be made about the hundreds of rioters that were arrested, which included people from over 40 different cities
I doubt most people would be ok with rioters burning down buildings nea r where they live or losing all their stuff at home when they are not loaded with cash.
