@@kellyshomemadekitchen hi how are yu I hope yur well thanks for yur comment ie and what was strange some of his victims were not prostitutes some serial killers have sex with victims but he didn't
@@michaeldevaney5728 right. It was like he couldn’t hold himself back from killing them right away or attempting to in some cases. However, one thing this documentary does not mention is the fact that he wore a v-neck sweater under his trousers (no underwear) in order to have “easy access” to masturbate over his victims’ bodies after he killed them. As if he hadn’t already disrespected them enough! What a sicko!
One of which is short clip of a film location which was used in at least 3 fictional drama productions, and doesn't exist anymore. It's possible they used interior footage too, but trying to find photos or videos from inside the building before it was demolished isn't going well. People only seem to have photos and videos of the outside of the building, and which are usually from the same 2 angles. No-one seems to have taken any footage of the other side of the building.
I gave a lift to one of the ripper team. It was the first time I ever felt sorry for a cop. He was exhausted and seemed close to tears. He told me that they were baffled. All I could do was to wish him luck.
Yes, she could do ASMR videos. I literally fell asleep during this show. Despite the disturbing content, her voice soothed me to sleep. She could probably read an autopsy transcript & I'd fall fast asleep!
When it comes to crime documentaries, this one always stands out to me. The music and narration is unsettling and you get a sense of how brutal Sutcliffe was. In terms of atmosphere, this is such a good documentary. It’s showing it’s age a little now but it’s still the best documentary about the Ripper I’ve ever seen.
People believe that sutcliffe was the ripper because that's what they want to believe. They are willing to ignore all the evidence that he was a copycat killer framed as the ripper by lying cops.
A masterpiece of a documentary. The writer had voice like silk and her perfect internation wasn’t overly dramatised. Loved the Erie flute very under stated. It was very factual and not in the least bit manipulative or sensational unlike the drivel you get today. As somebody who is registered blind, I have no need to watch the video I could listen to it on the narrative was throwing an interrupted, and there was so much dialogue that you could follow all the way through.
@@MizzMetallikat76 It doesn't matter. I was involved in creating videos for companies. We had some great narrators on our books. Narration makes such a difference to the message being sent. I was chosen to narrate 2 videos we created for clients. When we presented the finished item to clients, they were very impressed. We hired a well known actor for one narration, but the result was awful. He acted the role instead of taking himself out of the story. We found a replacement but still had to pay the actor. It is a surprisingly difficult job being a narrator.
I agree completely. I especially like how they don’t show the same scene or comment multiple times. Just a very good flow of information. And lastly, I could listen to this narrator all day.
Except for the few very important matters that were left out. They didn't give any information about the copycat killer known to be involved, also they knew there were two killers involved in the murders and they dont explain or even know why sutcliffe was eliminated so many times.
Yes except for the fact that Sutcliffe was a copycat killer framed as the Ripper by police who screwed up the investigation and let the Real Ripper get away to kill again.
Only problem was sutcliffe's blood type didn't match the ripper's B blood found in the semen on some of the victims, also in the saliva on the bite marks. He was a copycat killer framed as the ripper.
@@noelogara1 Would you kindly STFU. You're literally all over this comment section spewing your conspiracy theory bollocks. You commented walls of text to nearly everyone who's made a comment, you barmy nutter. Write a novel or something.
@@noelogara1 or someone messed up during the investigation. Hell police in Germany were convinced for years that there was a female serial killer criminal mastermind running around until someone realized that the forensic kits they had been using were contaminated.
Our first nights out as teenagers were against the backdrop of this hunt. The lads at school were great at making sure none of the girls walked home alone.
It’s easy for us - with 20/20 hindsight - to judge. Yes, mistakes were made, but Sutcliffe was caught because the police were high alert for _anything_ out of the ordinary. I certainly would not have thought to go back and search the area where Sutcliffe “relieved” himself (the only thing he relieved himself of was the hammer and knife). It’s easy for us today to forget how much of a disadvantage the police faced. My only criticisms are the police should have paid more attention to the victim descriptions of the suspect (the drawings) and should have followed up on the officer’s report who suspected Sutcliffe. And offered a HUGE reward for information leading to the capture. Nothing like money as an incentive to people to look at their neighbors a little closer!
He was finally caught by some alert and diligent police. The people in charge were clearly miles out of their depth and completely swamped. It is not clear to me if they were able to escalate the case and get assistance earlier or not. At least there was a review for lessons learned which should help "next time" if the police are not defunded.
Hey not all of us are bad . But you are completely correct about our documentaries they have become completely crap . I didn't ask to be born American.
Interviewed as potential suspect nine times, matches photofits down to the gap in his teeth, narrowed down the area where he lives, and the cops still can't get him. Incredible.
Incredible? Typical more like. The police only solve 5% of all reported crime and were very lucky that the arresting officer returned to the scene of the crime the following day to find the hammer.
Maureen Long should be commended for coming on this documentary to tell people her story. We so often think we’re safe in our homes, jobs, day to day life. This warns people of what to watch out for, what should make the red flag and warning bells go off. Let’s hope most of them felt nothing after the first hammer blow.
I can’t speak from experience, but I’ve read there’s no pain from intense blows to the head. I find that hard to believe though as anyone whose ever accidentally banged their head hard into something, it hurts quite a lot.
@@32446 I’ve seen a few different interviews with Richard McMan, including one done at the time it was announced Sutcliffe had died. But the last I heard about Maureen Long was that she had passed also. I’ve not been able to confirm that though.
@@kellyshomemadekitchenthat's really sad . I thought she looked incredibly frail in this documentary. What that bastard did no doubt affected & shortened her life 😢
@@hannahhopkinson9044 Sadly, you are most likely exactly right. I’m glad she survived what that monster did to her but the ptsd must have been a nightmare 😓
Still , I've watched numerous of the savile documentaries multiple times and watch as u say routinely so guess that's no different..wonder why we find them fascinating ? It's obv that gallows thing.. I'm a normal person and not into stuff savile was and I'm guessing u have no interest in killing women ?
@@Sol-Cutta I have same question for Errol Kim too. Once is enough, unless one is using it for criminal studies or fall asleep several times like me and need to watch some of it again. I lived through those times and it was scary for everyone. Sutcliff was a evil nutter
@@life107familyfitnessboxing8 true true , seems odd u would watch something so horrid to our lives, again and again for vivacious recreation. Not sure where that puts one's mind. If it's a element of fascintaion in the police methods and that side of things then I suppose that's ok and the original thread commentator guy wrote awful crimes and r.i.p victims so I guess that suggests he's not watching it getting a thrill from the death and suffering of others. if it is getting a thrill then that is sick and troublesome.
#PilettaDoinswartsh You've obviously missed the well-made PBS docs in USA, and perhaps you have a bias against Americans - but surely all that matters is keeping this from becoming a story about the killer. #RIPVictims
@Olwen Morgan Perhaps, and we certainly admire BBC for their masterful contributions to the genre, still with the ad-free public service broadcast like PBS, geared to quality in the TV wasteland, we can be just as proud of ourselves here.
@@Ptinski YOU obviously don't get it. The statement was made as a genetalization!! Nobody could POSSIBLY view EVERY documentary concerning a certain subject...........
As a kid I remember this was a very big story that went on a long time, while the police tracked Sutcliffe down. One thing that really stuck in my memory was reading that the police on 2 occasions questioned Jimmy Saville. That was a huge deal because at the time, he was one the the UK's biggest celebrities. I couldn't understand why as it made no sense and then it just went away. In hindsight it's clear you don't haul in a major celebrity twice for questioning about serial killings unless you have good reason. People knew what he was like even back then.
@@rozdoyle8872. No the hoaxer was caught and sentenced for Perverting The Course of Justice. He served four years. A pretty pathetic, chronically unemployed alcoholic with little going on in his life. Look up Wearside Jack.
Dick Holland (also featured in this) dismissed him totally - problem was him and Oldfield were frankly a bit thick, which is why it went on for so long. Holland also had a long record of fitting people up. His son has recently gone to prison over drug dealing too.
@@Dessan01 What amazes me about Holland is that even here he went "he had CLEARLY mistaken the girl for a prostitute". Despite the fact they failed to catch the killer for so long precisely due to the fact they had assumed he targeted prostitutes only and thus failed to see the bigger picture and make the connection with other cases. He... really learned nothing, did he.
@@alessandrapacelli9374 The problem is that the police forces nowdays give too much weight to the suspect profiling. You hear it in criminal case documentaries time and time again: "criminals don't change their established modus operandi". And so once they encounter something different they almost automatically dismiss the possibility that it could have been the work of the same person and they look for someone else. Yes, human beings are creatures of habit but we aren't robots. We can evolve in our aims and methods. And this case is a good example of that. He at first targetted the prostitutes but then he broadened the scope of his victims to women in general, no matter of age or occupation.
Yes RIP Andrew Laptew. The first man to name Sutcliffe as the likely YR. If they had listened to him 4 or 5 victims would have survived. Mr Laptew was a good Policeman and a good man.
I’m at a complete loss at how the police missed him. He was interviewed 9 times,he had the gap in his teeth, the boot and tire prints matched and looked just like the photo fits. Total incompetence.if those in charge of law enforcement had checked their egos I can’t help but feel that they would have caught him much earlier.
Really seems like because they were ladies of the night, they didn't matter as much. Quite telling when Trevor Lapish described victims being "innocent girls, prostitutes or whatever" implying prostitutes aren't innocent.
The Police made an assumption based on the fact that the first 2 women were believed to work as prostitutes, ergo he hates prostitutes and they're his targets, so 'decent' women were safe. They failed to consider that prostitutes are the easiest victims in terms of availability, their very occupation meaning they would go with a stranger and the cultural bias against sex workers. Sutcliffe enjoyed killing women, he was an opportunist and 'blitz' attacker and NO woman was safe. Against this background they had tunnel vision and missed the obvious. Still shocking to hear this story and some of the comments of some of the officers about the women were disgraceful.
Remember being obsessed with this case as a schoolboy in Sydney Australia, to see the crime scenes and videos of the buildings and landscapes of the time brings it all together in a riveting way.
@Saida Agourram bang on. we really haven't come that far tbh. sure theres more women in the workforce but who does that really benefit besides capitalists?
Everything about the 70s looks relentlessly grim, oppressive, grimy. brown and primitive. Terrorism, Industrial action, and a serial killer on the loose in Northern England. Superb documentary and all the Northern cities look positively Victorian.
If the grim up North 70s don`t strike you as incredibly grotty then i`m surprised. Factor in 3 day weeks, crippling strikes and a serial killer on the loose, and masses of brown polyester clothing and i`d call it bleak.
It wasn't. It was insensitive. Sutcliffe was çaught, not by detective work, but by chance and a follow up by an ordinary policeman who, with another, stopped Sutcliffe in the first place by simply doing a routine check. That policeman returned and did a search.
I've heard they were trying to take attention away from the fact that they had just caught a Yorkshireman after being absolutely adament than the man they were looking for was from Sunderland
@@Renxo761 It's funny how religious people are like "Put the kettle on love" and then when they want to proselytise, they break out with the "Follow and know Jesus! The way, the truth the life!" cod-medieval speak. It makes you sound like an idiot.
They had his tire tracks, bite marks, his shoe size, his shoe print, the 5 pound note traced to him, a witness description that allowed an incredibly accurate composite sketch, nine police interviews with the guy and they still couldn't figure it out. And don't get me started with the cops who let the guy take a piss on the side of a building allowing him to ditch a hammer and a knife before taking him to the station. Astonishing.
Those Brits were so small in comparison to a same sized police department in any random state in America, they just didn't know what to do. They had everything they needed, so many details that would point to 1 man. Sad situation.
England is not very large, its about the same size as the state I live in. Yet they have so many different accents and dialects that you can tell what town someone lives in by the way they talk. Thats mind blowing really
Some decades ago, when the Independent was an excellent newspaper, there was an article in the Saturday magazine about a dinner lady in Yorkshire who spent her afternoons working in a transport cafe. She regularly saw Sutcliffe with another man, who she never heard speak, but was convinced must have been an accomplice in at least some of his crimes. Her obsession with the case ended up costing her her family and by all accounts much of her sanity. I know I kept the article but it's been many, many years since I last came across it. I can find nothing on the Internet relating to the issue, but then there are many news items from the past for whom that is the case. I worry how much of our history has been lost because it's not on google. Especially considering our newspaper libraries are being closed down, precisely because it's believed the internet is doing the same job. It isn't. Nowhere close, in fact.
Andrew Laptew's expression towards the end of the video was just heartbreaking. It must be so frustrating knowing that you'd found the Ripper, only to have your suspicions ignored and filed away by incompetent higher-ups. So many women could have been saved if even one person had followed up on Laptew's suspicions.
Jupiter-8 A Tangerine is actually correct with his comments. If you watch any of the Yorkshire Ripper you will hear these facts plus the fact that Peter Sutcliffe was interviewed nine times. These senior officers were supposed to be seasoned detectives, shameful how they allowed more victims die due to their incompetence and large egos.
Except for one very important ingredient. Sutcliffe was the copycat killer who was eliminated at least nine times because his blood type didnt match the Ripper's. But he was involved, he was the copycat killer who killed Jean Jordan, Yvonne Pearson, Margo Walls and Jacqueline Hill and he committed all the assaults and more he wasnt charged with because it would expose his real part in the Ripper hunt. Its been cover up and lies ever since and people have been brainwashed with this official story. Perfection in perfidy.
Absolutely brilliant documentary. No faff, no experts on just cops and the surviving victims. These new ones have body experts and language specialists and although it's interesting I prefer the old style. My heart went out to them all but when Maureen Long started to get upset I was choked. Did you know she was Rita's mother in Rita Sue and Bob too. Unspoken role and you only see her once at the beginning when Sue goes to get Rita at her house but it's definately her.
The cops who caught both of these cult heros were just average cops . Below average . Street bums who respond to domestic calls. Fuck the cops and their investigation on me !
EXCELLENT documentary on the Ripper! People still find this subject riveting 4 decades later, it's great to listen to such a well-narrated, interesting, factual commentary. Great work 👏🏽 Thank you
I remember watching this as a 19 yr old in early 2000 when it was 1st broadcast. I have just turned 43. I agree a superb example of filmmaking. I also recall the promo work the crew did on shows like this morning to advertise. I grew up in the leafy suburbs of north Leeds in relative comfort but always aware of the shroud cast upon the city a few years before. I recognise so many of the filming locations which is quite chilling. God bless
@jamesobrien1440 thanks for sharing. Creepy actually knowing the area in which the Ripper operated! So glad he was caught and justice prevailed but my heart goes out to those poor women and their families ❤️
This is one of the finest documentaries i ever seen.. well the act was truly gruesome, the way it was narrated by janet suzman complimented by the enigmatic and mysterious soundtrack was truly captivating. Well chronicled events with subtle space hooks you up till the end.
I grew up in the south west of England and was extremely young during the Ripper years, but even I remember the unsettling fear that women felt at that time, not to walk outside alone at night etc. Even though it wasn't the Ripper's turf, there was still a fear he'd relocate.
This is a very good documentary. I'm pleased the man writing the letters and sending the tapes was caught and sentenced. I was in the Leeds area before the Yorkshire ripper was caught. On holiday with 3 others and we were careful about where we went. We were always together.
The Quality of this Production, the Style, Narration - how well the Case is presented is (imho) unmatched and very, very gripping! I watched one of this "Manhunt-Series" (The Prudent Case) last Night. But then made the Mistake to watch a Documentation about the killing of the precious little 2year old James Bulger. It HIT me like a Brick. This happened 1993 - and i remembered it at it has happened yesterday. The blurry Video, James trustfully holding Hands with Jon Venables, not knowing that those two 10 years old BOYS leading him out to the Railways to torture and murder him. I heard the Interviews (parts of) with them for the first time - and my god, how awful, how SICKENING they were! My heart raced and i felt literally sick to my stomach myself. And i thought of all the Policemen/women and other Professionals who had to deal with them. I'm very sure, their life would never be the same after that. Couldn't be. It was a Feeling of utter Helpnesless and Hopelesness to think of a Society - our Society where such Crimes can happen. I really don't know HOW to deal with such damaged and twisted Children. Sorry for my "Outburst" - but maybe i had to share my thoughts with someone out there...
One of the saddest and most enduring images is that of Wilma McCann's two children (aged nine and seven) awaking in the morning and discovering that their mother had not come home from a night out. They then go out in their pyjamas and wait in the bitter cold at a nearby bus stop in eager expectation of seeing their mother...
So, what you're saying is that she left her two young children alone at home and went out drinking? Those children are probably better off with whatever family they're with now.
I'm from Sheffield..I'm not proud about my city but I'm proud of those two officers for catching that beast...you know when they say it's grim up north?...I can tell you for a fact it's grim up north
For anyone interested they finally caught the creator of the Ripper Letters and tape. His name is John Samuel Humble and he was convicted of perverting the course of justice in 2006.
what's good about this doc is it doesn't sensationalize the events, which is both the right thing to do with respect to the victims, and is highly rare today in an atmosphere of AI garbage and doc mills. This one is well researched, based on police reports and primary sources. An excellent soundtrack and gentle narration leaves a subtle air of chronic unease which was present in the communities affected. It's basically telling the story largely factually and focusing on the lived experience of the communities affected, rather than a titilating shockumentary style that has infected true crime filmmaking today.
I come back to this documentary every now and then. It is so well put together, the narrator is outstanding. I was a kid living in Manchester when these things were going on, and I remember the news on TV about this. I was afraid of my mom going out to buy groceries. A perfect representation of those times in northern England.
I rewatch this every so often myself, by now I’ve probably watched it at least a dozen times. No other documentary I’ve ever seen is anywhere near as well done as this.
yeah that bit annoyed me. Like, promote him and give him his badge ffs! surely it wouldnt be that difficult to do. They just forgot about him because he was a city over... ffs. That guy must have been fuming for yeaaaars
@@LittlestHoboKatie There were already quite enough male police officers seeking personal glory from these despicable murders of defenceless unaccompanied women.
Well someone had to do it, they weren’t the criminals but the catchers. Another woke comment from someone who expects to sleeps at night with no appreciation
Between the £5 note shortlist, size 7 boot, the gap in the teeth, the car regs in right light zones and the e-fits they could have arrested the right man much earlier. I know he had an alibi but short of a neon sign outside his house, the clues used in conjunction couldn’t have been much clearer.
you have to remember when he did these crimes dna sampling wasnt around until another few years after he was convicted.he was convicted in 1981 it was pioneered around 1984 and first used in britain in 1987
Yeh agree I think if another police team from say america or London ect he would have been cought earlier george and his team were out of there depth they had all the clues in front of them But were too obssessed with the tape and even with Peters alibis familys will Lie so alibis are never reliable
The problem was all the interview details were done on index cards and filed under each item. I believe there were over 150,000 cards. Not like these days where we press a button and it matches common links, they would have had to manually search through thousands of cards.
Still the best documentary. The Netflix one is good and higher quality, but doesn't match the eerie atmosphere of this. The music and wonderful narration of the lady here are perfect.
Rather unfortunate choice of words "Killing innocent women instead of prostitutes." Methinks prostitutes are also 'innocent' against being murdered. In fact innocent in general.
There’s a great book which focuses on victims I recommend - Somebody's Mother, Somebody's Daughter: True Stories from Victims and Survivors of the Yorkshire Ripper by Carol Ann Lee
Not read that one, I have read the brilliant Somebody's Husband, Somebody's Son by Gordon Burn. I like how they have twisted the title of that book for this one!
I know he was from W. Yorkshire, & the majority of his victims were over that way, but it was also the same for us in Mcr. I remember when I was 11 years old, we would always make sure we walked the girls all the way home. The fear was everywhere, especially at night time.
Of all the crime docs on youtube, this is probably the best. No grief tourism. No BS. The narration is perfect for the dark subject matter. The faces of the women he murdered flashing one by one and ending with his face is chilling. Some of the info is not accurate, but it's presentation is effective. And I love the Northumbria cop who said that the hoaxer letters and tapes should have been used as a line of enquiry, not as a method of elimination. The FBI were consulted on this case, and told Oldfield the letters and tapes were not from the killer, and Oldfield chose to ignore that. What might have been, how many women might have been saved, and how much sooner he would have been caught, we will never know.
I love the Roman soldier cheering a returning commander analogy, they usually only cheer a commander who's successful in winning the bloody battle, not a guy who loses 8 battles in a row. That commander would usually commit suicide.
Watching several old movies based on true incidents and documentaries it's really spine chilling how the West was full of crimes bck thn. Even today but now atleast we're not totally helpless.
That Dick Holland neglects mentioning that part of his move to uniforms after the inquiry into the handling of the ripper case, that he was also being disciplined for corrupt conduct while in his nominal DI role at Milgarth, he was fucking bent as well as arrogant.
Eddie Quist they are saying it’s disturbing bc they see prostitutes as not an innocent victim and more deserving of being killed but when the victim isn’t a prostitute they are innocent victims and shouldn’t have been killed
Yes, I know the 70s were a very long time ago in many repects, it still seems awful to think that prostitutes were seen as such a low form of life. Shame on them.
@Eddie Coyle Me too. There's a lot wrong with it even if it was legal. It degrades the woman, destroys her ability to truly love, and helps spread disease and human trafficking.
My mother was born in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, but she left when she was nine years old to come down to South-East England. She couldn't do a Geordie accent, though I could, through talking on the phone to her brother, Jimmy, who was considerably older than her, and who stayed in Newcastle all his life. However, when the Ripper hoax tape played on TV, and they said the taper had a Geordie accent, she said in her educated middle-class suburban accent, "That's no Geordie accent! That's plainly County Durham, probably Castletown!" Now, as someone who is often treated as an honorary Geordie a) because my mother was born there, and b) because I can produce a genuine Geordie accent to back it up, I'm damned if I can tell the difference today. But she was right. The hoaxer was from the Sunderland area (a "bloody Mak'em" as he would have been called in Newcastle), and I was pleased that this documentary didn't get this wrong, because most of them do.
A prostitute is a person. A prostitute is a person;s daughter; mother and so forth. People judge sex workers well if there was not a demand for it; then would they be there? There are many sex workers of whom are forced to conduct this post as a way of survival. It is the person looking for it thay should be judged.
Another weird quirk is that it was the actor Bruce Jones who played Les Battersby in Coronation St who found the body of Jean Jordan in the allotments in Manchester when he was a milkman!!
bascet1 He never got over it, he has never slept peacefully since then, poor man obviously had PTSD which was never dealt with,this could explain the battles he has had with depression and alcohol which ultimately cost him his career
@@Onmysheet He said that when he reported it one of the police said that the one who reports that they found a dead body is usually the killer right to his face.
I am not happy about Dick Holland being given a free pass in this documentary. This is a detective who was senior investigating officer for two major miscarriages of justice (Kiszko and Ward) - and he was the guy who buried Laptew's ID of Sutcliffe. Disgraceful.
The level of incompetence shown by the men leading this investigation is simply staggering. To focus all the attention on 'Wearside Jack' and to disregard both concerns about the validity of the tapes as well as any suspect without a Geordie accent is beyond belief.
Easy to say in retrospect when you have all the key evidence & know the outcome. The detectives involved know they fucked up & I dare say if you were part of the investigation you wouldn't have fared any better then them, more likely a lot worse. How about you blame the prick who sent the tapes??
@@runlarryrun77 What absolute nonsense. It's standard procedure to follow up lines of enquiry instead of re-routing an investigation because of some letters and a tape and dismissing the possibility that they just might be sent by someone who was not the Ripper. The following are facts: 1) Other high-ranking officers told George Oldfield of their grave doubts of the validity of the tapes and letters and supported their views with valid reasons. 2) The FBI profiler, Robert Ressler, told Oldfield immediately upon hearing the tape that it was a hoax. 3) One of Sutcliffe's surviving victims, Tracy Browne, told Oldfield that the man on the tape was not her attacker. Despite this, Oldfield decided to plough on regardless. ANY competent police officer would fare better than him.
Good narration and impactful story! My heart goes out for the voice artist and researchers that brought us the "real" Story in best possible light to reflect upon. .... I don't understand why being a 1993 born we don't have such journalism in 2020??
What makes me mad is because the two policemen who caught him, were from South Yorkshire police, they were not promoted. What a bureaucratic .....joke!!
Well I guess that, through his simple diligence and thoroughness [all done as a low ranking uniform], he embarrassed a lot of top brass in his neighbouring force. Promotions are partly meritorious; mostly political
kslm8045 That's the police for you fucking over their own, this was the biggest unsolved case in decades and they wanted the murderer so badly and when they got him the two Bobbys who arrested him didn't get so much as a handshake let alone a promotion .
Thankfully the two were decent people who actually cared about justice, actually protecting people and doing their jobs. Rather than butting heads in politic pissing contests and covering their own asses like those "big shots" . They probs knew the fall out was going to happen with bosses like THAT but did it anyways . For that they have my respect
Actually it was the rookie cop that insisted upon going back to the arrest point and searching it. How do I know this? At the time I regularly attended the property seen at circa 1:24:00 for management training and as such got to see and hear details together with getting to meet the cops invoved
I remember those days well, the fear. I'm from Rochdale, not far from the border with West Yorkshire. As an 8 year old I used to meet my mum from work every night and walk her home. Not that I could've done much to help.
I'm from Rochdale as well but this was before my time. I was born in 88. My mum, grandmas and aunties would have been around back then, must have been terrifying for them.
Truly shocking - and worst of all, the attitude of those in charge of the investigation. I've never heard so many pathetic excuses for crass incompetence in my life. The lack of cohesion and method was appalling. If they had just stuck the photo fits up on a wall, wouldn't it have told them something? The police ignored so many important clues.
It got worse when they fixated on the fake tape. They dismissed Sutcliffe despite massive evidence because he had the wrong accent. The whole investigation was an example of arrogance and hubris.
Thorough documentary, with quality narration.I remember seeing a docudrama on this case, and VERY early on into the inquiries, an officer was suspicious of the correct person, and they ignored him! In fact he went to the rippers home on his own, more than once- he was THAT sure! When that officer was interviewed at the end of the documentary, he shook his head in disgust, and he said, he had one of those hunches you get, and a lot of the witness testimonies fit, but the detectives in charge kept dwelling on the the rippers car! -"Oh it can not be the ripper, because the car info does not match." People make mistakes, and there can be conflicting descriptions, but everything else lined up. All those poor women viciously murdered, because they were hung up on the same damn ideas! A young girl got hit in the head, but survived, and got a totally clear look at him, and her and her mom kept showing up at the police station,telling the police that the girl saw the ripper, and his car! -which that was incorrect, but in the dark, after almost getting killed, and hit in the head, that was understandable! But she SAW HIM clearly-and you don't forget the face of someone trying to KILL you! The girl gave a photofit, that was dead on accurate as well, and that was ignored too, because again, they were hung up on their own ideas of what the killer should look like, be like, etc. Closed minds are a dangerous thing.
Well written Lisa. Whilst I'm aware of pioneering DNA breakthroughs not being available back then, there were so many moments in this case that should have led to Sutcliffe being stopped. £5 note, size of the shoe, matching photo fits. Furthermore, he was interviewed 9 times. I can't help but feel arrogant and ignorant police work cost many women their lives.
@@stephenalex4345 sutcliffe was eliminated 9 times because his O blood type didn't match the ripper's B blood found in semen and saliva on his bite marks and the same rare one in sixteen B blood found on his letters when he kicked the envelope. He was a copycat killer and the police were focused on getting the real yorkshire ripper. That's why they didn't arrest him earlier.
How many men did they think we're running around clobbering women on the head with hammers anyway? I've often thought if they'd actually investigated Tracy Brown's attacker, they'd have caught him. Why didn't they inquire about such a serious assault?
This documentary is 1000X better than the Netflix one. More details, more feelings for the victim. The Netflix one just sensationalised the murderer and squeezed all the details .
I agree man. This doc really puts the others involved in perspective. I mean from the affected ladies to their families to the police constables to the people shopping while listening to the tape, almost everyone's been mentioned.
