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Many narcissistic parents target and take away sources of the scapegoat child’s happiness. 

Jay Reid - Recovery from Bad Childhoods
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Scapegoated children often grow up to be afraid of anything fun and exciting or that brings them joy and happiness. This short video explains why.
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@lesliel.6260
@lesliel.6260 10 месяцев назад
This so spot on, you can't let them know what makes you happy or you will lose it, these people are just beyond disgusting
@thelioness6102
@thelioness6102 7 месяцев назад
Then if you lie to keep them at bay So they think your miserable so they leave you alone then they use that as part of their mental abuse to say you are the manipulator And if you fall in with an abusive partner and they end up using it against you as a sadistic way of punishing you just like the parent But you have to have a partner that understands the abuse and why you are so private so it’s not like you can hide why you avoid the mother
@annastone5624
@annastone5624 Год назад
Safe to be happy Safe to be sad Safe to create Safe to cry Safe to sing Safe to exist
@z1z2z3z
@z1z2z3z Год назад
Indeed. Sending you love!
@AthiraEaRaD
@AthiraEaRaD Год назад
Probably not with them. We have to move out
@maggip6037
@maggip6037 Год назад
I woke up in the middle of the night thinking about this. When I bought myself a house with my own money, through my own efforts, my family members reacted with rage and criticism. It completely confused me for years, causing me to feel ashamed of myself for doing something that most people would see as an accomplishment. I even received a 5 page hate letter from an aunt in a distant country, accusing me of being a bad daughter for buying a house. Thank you so much for helping me grow to understand that maybe I am not the bad one ;)
@z1z2z3z
@z1z2z3z Год назад
I completely understand!
@A.M.6795
@A.M.6795 Год назад
Yeah, the flying monkeys multiply the abuse many times over. We will become whole and happy again.
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet Год назад
Rules are different for women/girls. They probably expected you to need a man to move out. You defied them
@ctoland12
@ctoland12 9 месяцев назад
Omg that sounds so familiar!!! It’s all so twisted. Congrats on the house and enjoy every minute knowing you deserve your special safe space!!!
@OGSweet-vm2ru
@OGSweet-vm2ru 8 месяцев назад
Omc, that is my dream! That is incredible! Wtf? Woah, they really are narcissists. Congratulations! 💙 and I feel you, had something similar for other accomplishments.
@nobodynowhere21
@nobodynowhere21 10 месяцев назад
Every time i was close to being happy ... that's when the real evil showed its fangs. Some days I don't know how I'll recover
@dark7angel456
@dark7angel456 5 месяцев назад
I have cousins like this and a lot of random people that are probably flying monkeys. Don't resort to substance abuse when a narcissist is the cause of the problem
@aquateal384
@aquateal384 Год назад
Spot on! Any and all of my interests were reframed by my narcissistic father as immoral, shady and just plain bad. Anyone else in the family who pursued the same activity was talented and a source of pride.
@woozyvalence
@woozyvalence 7 месяцев назад
Yup. I feel u
@ShansBrands
@ShansBrands Год назад
“It’s safe to be happy” ❤ That statement speaks to me on so many levels!
@thecatlikeprincess
@thecatlikeprincess 11 месяцев назад
Me too 😊
@sunnybright8206
@sunnybright8206 4 месяца назад
A word
@amberfuchs398
@amberfuchs398 Год назад
Oh, man. This is like one of the primary things I'm working on with my therapist. Doing things for myself feels like I'm setting myself up to be a target for abuse and neglect. And it's not completely unreasonable. People love shaming anything and everything we do.
@dark7angel456
@dark7angel456 5 месяцев назад
Me too!! It also makes room to attract other horrible narcissist to bombard and stalk which happens to me. They come out of nowhere and all the sudden I started to feel gaslight
@thecatlikeprincess
@thecatlikeprincess 11 месяцев назад
Explains why im always feeling guilty or uneasy when good things happen for me or when I'm having a nice day. I feel like ok, what's going to ruin this nice feeling...my narc mother always shoots down any moments of happiness for me. But Of course when she's happy about something she wants us to be happy with her.
@UmmSelma
@UmmSelma Год назад
Very true. My mother targets everything I hold dear to my heart, dismissing my whole identity and personality and everything that makes me who I am - to the point where I feel that there is no longer a soul left in me. Constantly belittling me, making fun of the things I love and care about, always doing her best to put me down and make me feel worthless. She has broken me down so bad so hard, she even made me hate myself and wish I was dead💔 Only recently realised that I am a victim of emotional abuse and that I do not deserve to be treated this way…
@A.M.6795
@A.M.6795 Год назад
We will heal. The narcissist has unlimited energy to devote to ruining our lives, but we're onto them and are working on ourselves. It is now safe to be happy
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet Год назад
Please get therapy
@angelofchrist4494
@angelofchrist4494 Год назад
This sounds all too familiar
@lorrainenicoletti6232
@lorrainenicoletti6232 11 месяцев назад
Im sorry. I get it. You are not alone
@lisarochwarg4707
@lisarochwarg4707 Год назад
This is true, because a narcissistic parent is always trying to pull the rug from under the scapegoat, or cut them down to size. What isn't being said, though it is being implied, is that narcissistic parents inflict near-criminal amounts of abuse on the scapegoat. The only reason the abuse isn't even worse is that narcissists desperately fear prison. Nonetheless, they are criminals.
@queentrinicorn9441
@queentrinicorn9441 9 месяцев назад
Yup. Mine decided to wreak 20 years of emotional, marital, familial, physical, and financial havoc simply bc they can’t fathom anyone else having feelings 😮 I wish it were illegal
@justmyself7135
@justmyself7135 9 месяцев назад
My mom would do things like take away my drawings and tear them. Throw my pets outside the house or beat them. Tears my new clothes. Even stops me from ordering my favorite food or taking away my snacks. Even gets mad at me when l do self Care like skin care or showering or styling my hair or doing makeup. I'm turning 20 next month but the wounds are still open.
@JustA3r0
@JustA3r0 8 месяцев назад
@@justmyself7135 I feel that on a personal level, I still remember clearly how my father threw my rabbit out of the house because I was waiting on my friend to finish showering so we could play with her. Apparently to him I was taking too long so instead he took the rabbit and threw it outside- my father would also wreck my room if I was too out of line or he would belittle my hobbies even after he used it to praise me to his coworkers and neighbors-
@justmyself7135
@justmyself7135 8 месяцев назад
@@JustA3r0 omg I'm sorry 😞. My mom used to abuse my pets and my older brother who also turned out to be abusive he would choke my cat and put him in the freezer for few seconds until he started screaming. My mom would also cut my hair or threatened to cut it and make me hold the hair she cut in my hand and say sorry for what? For playing with my dolls for too long.she even would punish me if l share my toys or give them to other kids. They just hate seeing that their children did not turn out to be monsters like them .
@justmyself7135
@justmyself7135 8 месяцев назад
@@JustA3r0 l also relate to being belittled after being praise as a kid . They do that because we used to give them narcissistic supply when we were kids but as we get older and distance ourselves they try to diminish any possibility of us becoming our own individuals. They start to see our hobbies and interests even our relationships outside as a threat because we no longer cling onto them for approval. also depending on your gender sometimes they see their adult children as competition so when you're dad sees that your better than him at something or when the mother sees that her daughter gets more attention than her they get what's called "ego injury" .
@A.M.6795
@A.M.6795 Год назад
Mom always attacks my relationship with Jesus and my close friends to make sure they cease to exist. Thankfully, Jesus is not one of my mom's flying monkeys but my anchor and my safe place to land. It is now safe to be happy, thank You Jesus!
@katherineirvin7464
@katherineirvin7464 Год назад
Isn’t He Good!
@horsepowermultimedia
@horsepowermultimedia 6 месяцев назад
Amen! 🙏
@denisemorris5583
@denisemorris5583 10 месяцев назад
..and yeah! It is so true. Wondered why we have fear and avoidance of success and happiness. I'm always afraid it will be taken away so don't even go there. Knowing the source of this maladaptive belief / behavior will be the first step in true recovery.
@lisakillz1853
@lisakillz1853 11 месяцев назад
hello scapegoat and honestly, seeing the impact generational narcissism has had on my sibling who is now also a narcissist, I am grateful to God that my scapegoat status protected me from becoming a full-blown narcissist as well
@CristinaAcosta
@CristinaAcosta Год назад
I was 40 when my mother met my father in law after 10 years of marriage and baby. 2 hours she told him “the truth” about me. Her lies. Hadn’t seen her in 10 years. Didn’t stop her
@A.M.6795
@A.M.6795 Год назад
They never change, they only get worse with age. Sad!
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet Год назад
​@@A.M.6795 yep. My dad did this same thing with a friend of mine whom he met for 5 minutes. This was while I was moving out. He felt the need to tell my friend of 10 years the truth about me.
@nandinigogoi2584
@nandinigogoi2584 9 месяцев назад
Wow true they never change they will continue their abuse and we see their lies more clearly now...
@sweetsugar1014
@sweetsugar1014 8 месяцев назад
​@ASMRyouVEGANyet yep. My mom tried that and I found out that's because they feel they are losing control of you so they need some people to side with them against you....even if those people are your friends. Smh
@sahdogwrangler5594
@sahdogwrangler5594 Год назад
I'm not even sure my parents were narcissist but one was abusive & the other was complete emotionally absent. This is really interesting because I have anxiety when things seem to be going well, waiting for the other shoe to drop.
@z1z2z3z
@z1z2z3z Год назад
His videos are so helpful! I've watched a lot of different channels and his has really helped me the most!
@queenj5308
@queenj5308 7 месяцев назад
Smh 🤦🏾‍♀️ I can relate!
@chetpomeroy1399
@chetpomeroy1399 Год назад
It should *ALWAYS* be safe to be happy!!!
@sheiladay-od2me
@sheiladay-od2me 10 месяцев назад
This is so true. I now know that it is safe to be happy.
@lesliegann2737
@lesliegann2737 Год назад
When I was a kid my parents moved to an area where I got to go to a new school. I made a friend right away and my report card would say for the first time ever that I was talking too much in class. Soon afterwards they moved back to the old area, so it was back to being bullied or ignored at that school all over again. I can't say that they did this on purpose but on a feeling level it felt that way. It is like they either do things on purpose to take away your happiness or they somehow cause you bad luck.
@leahflower9924
@leahflower9924 Год назад
My parents would've latched on to that talking too much because it would've validated any negative feelings they subconsciously had about me. I feel like some parents don't or can't scapegoat their kid because they need some justification for themselves and then as soon as you do one or two things wrong that's justification for them and they start targeting their kid like nobody's business
@lesliegann2737
@lesliegann2737 Год назад
@@leahflower9924 Your comment is very insightful and I think it applies to my past. My abuse was mostly subtle. I was not openly scapegoated and called names like many are. It is like they needed excuses. I was a good conscientious kid. My biggest crime was being an introvert as my mother thought of herself as being an extrovert. My parents had a real reason to move but isn't it odd that this happened soon after my report card said I was talking too much. That didn't fit my weird introvert label at all. Hmmm.
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet Год назад
It probably wasn't because of that. It's a lot of money and energy to move.
@emmalouie1663
@emmalouie1663 Год назад
someone needs to really expand on this topic, there is of course lots of videos about narcissist parents and various things they do, after a while though it becomes more and more obvious with narcissist family members is they actually get angry when they see other people experiencing positive emotions, so if a child is a scapegoat or other negative role imposed by the narcissist, the narcissist parent will intentionally, not accidentally on occasion, but will systematically, regularly to discourage the child from enjoying life and having positive emotions... it is so sick that few people would believe it
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet Год назад
Agree. They literally don't want their own kids to br happy.
@ctoland12
@ctoland12 9 месяцев назад
Amen.
@ctoland12
@ctoland12 11 месяцев назад
Hello. I just found your site and it is fantastic!!! I am an older woman and was raised by a narcissistic mother, a passive father who chimed in with her blaming every family problem on me, a brother who our mother made the golden child and I was the lower than dirt scapegoat. I’ve been in therapy since I was 15. My mother couldn’t wait to get rid of me so when I turned 17 she kicked me out of the house, even throwing my belongings into garbage bags and dropping me off at a homeless shelter. I lived their a year as one scared little girl. In retrospect, I have no idea how I survived. I finally went through trauma treatment about 15 years ago which helped quite a bit. I just started reading about narcissism about 5 years ago. The way you explain so many issues I have been challenged with are so spot on and actually is opening my eyes even further. I always wonder why I am so content with being alone but on the other hand feel so much sadness with the aloneness. What you say makes so much sense. That word ‘persecution’ describes my entire childhood and my fear of that as an adult is deep. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for bringing this to light in such a clear and simple manner. My mother died when I was in my mid 30’s but her impact on my life still rears it’s ugly head to this day. My brother sometimes continues the persecution as my role as scapegoat is one that is hard to shake. My father died about 8 years ago but he was passive until the day he died. I’m divorced and find it hard to even date, which I find so sad because I am a really cool, attractive, and smart lady. Of course at a very young age I found a narcissistic alcoholic to marry, which was a continuation of persecution. I somehow found the inner strength to divorce him after 15 years. I had only one son. I’ve been in and out of therapy my entire life. I did go back to college and graduated with a perfect GPA. I have a deep faith in God as he was my only hope while growing up. I know I have a lot of residual coping mechanisms but the saddest part Of my life is not finding a healthy love relationship. I look forward to watching your other videos and want to express my sincere thanks. Cheryl Phoenix, AZ
@lisabowden402
@lisabowden402 7 месяцев назад
Yes. My narcissistic mother is insanely jealous of me. Puts me down every chance she gets.
@j.c.2240
@j.c.2240 Год назад
So that's why my step dad tried to put the dog down
@Bitmodo
@Bitmodo Год назад
Mine did.
@lorrainenicoletti6232
@lorrainenicoletti6232 11 месяцев назад
I’m sorry So cruel I get it
@dark7angel456
@dark7angel456 5 месяцев назад
This is helping my lifelong depression and anxiety and nervous breakdowns. It seems like it's no escape, feeling crippled, and extreme self-hatred. ❤ thankyou. This is my escape from mental torment
@edainari
@edainari Год назад
This resonates with me so hard. Yesterday I began to realize that's why I suddenly felt anxious when for the past few days I have actually begun to feel happy and hopeful.(I've begun working on visualizations and feeling how it will feel to obtain what I yearn for.) Thank you for confirming for me that this is a genuine phenomenon and its origin so I can release it from my body and heart.
@lorrainenicoletti6232
@lorrainenicoletti6232 Год назад
This is me. So well described. Thank you
@antoniobabb1938
@antoniobabb1938 11 месяцев назад
Same here, both siblings and parents can’t point out a a simple truth oh take it down because of stupid reputation like just admit that we need to reach out and get therapy
@Ona1979
@Ona1979 Год назад
That feels like what I experienced. My father would tell me how horrible the poster in my room was, which was woman releasing a Pegasus from her hands. I was fairy tale themed and a very innocent thing. I was only 15. The joke that he made about the poster was sexual. He would tell me how horrible my favorite band was. We weren't allowed to play any music that he didn't like while he was in the house I always turned it off when he present. When he knew that I liked a boy, he would tell me how defective the guy was. I wasn't allowed to be happy without his permission. When I'd tell him how proud I was of a skill or personality trait I had, my father would tell that I didn't have good traits. When I got to the point where I would tell my father how defective and incompetent I was, he say that it was good that I knew it and usually the only praise that I got from him. When I made mistakes, he let me know that I was a failure and that I had ruined my life and that his life harder because if it. He would regularly tell me tat I was so bazaar and offputtingly that people didn't like me and that they never would if they knew me like he did. He taught me that the only thing that made me worth anything was that he loved me, that I was unlovable and that loving me was an exhausting burden that he was stuck being committed to. my identity and self worth relied on his love for you me and when he was feeling sadistic and wanted to hurt me, he would tell me that he was sorry that he ever loved me and wished that he had never done anything nice for me. I believed that I was so defective that my father wasn't doing anything wrong by abusing me. I thought he abusing me, because I was so horrible that was impossible for him to keep his temper or impossible to be nice to. He had a lot of rage that he took out on all of us, in the form of screaming until he was out of breath which he did regularly occasional beatings. He was a violent pedophile. I don't know if forced anyone else in family, because we were forbade from acknowledging his abuse, even while he was doing it. I wasn't allowed to cry or whimper when he was hurting me and I wasn't allowed to look unhappy afterward. He would treat me like his wife when no one else was looking, even though he had my devoted mother who enthusiastically anticipated which things could be done to maximize my fathers happiness. My father would do special things for me that he didn't do for anyone else. He would offer to cook food for me occasionally. He would take me out to lunch and pay for it. Tell me about romantic songs that he liked. He would dump his unhappiness with my mother on me. He would tell me in graphic detail about sexual encounters that he'd had with women before my mom and he would tell me about sexual encounters that he wished that he could have with people other than my mom. I am middle aged and I cut off contact with him 3 years ago. I am afraid to do good things for myself. I look forward to riding the train to window shop just for fun, but I am always scared and anxious when I'm on my way to the train station and when I'm near the part of town that I've been looking forward to.
@lubi5566
@lubi5566 Год назад
Your story is simmilar to mine. I feel you. You are not alone❤️ We have been told so many lies about ourselves. About who we really are. Sending you a big hug🤗
@CristinaAcosta
@CristinaAcosta Год назад
My mother was very similar. By the time i was an adult i was sure i was disgusting, flawed, selfish, failure, etc. At 63 - i see clearly how she completely projected her evil and terrible true self image forwards on to her daughter. What a terrible waste of time and life. We all lose.
@juneelle370
@juneelle370 Год назад
💜 😭 I’m so sorry this happened to you. Please dedicate your life to helping yourself heal and feel truly good and experience great joys~ you deserve it 💯.
@user-kl8lo6rj5i
@user-kl8lo6rj5i Год назад
You have a lot of work to do to recover from this! Your father needs many years of intense therapy to even begin to be slightly normal. I hope you heal and find all the joy that awful man stole from you all these years.
@Ona1979
@Ona1979 Год назад
​@@user-kl8lo6rj5i I might feel like I'll never be ok, but when I first arrived here in 2019, I was physically ill and so traumatized that I was just coming out of astress induced psyhotic break, my active memory wasn't longer than 14 seconds, I spent most of my dissociated from what was happeing around me. I was missing more chunks of time than I was present for. I was in constant pain from flashbacks. I got myself here in a Greyhound bus. Everything that I owned was in two back packs and two gym bags and about $100-. When I was on the bus here, I didn't just see it as running from something bad. I knew that I was traveling to city that would be my new home. I'd had to leave my winter coat behind because it didn't fit in my bags. I had to leave two weeks worth of food for the same reason, but I am glad that I was able to give it to another servivor who really needed it. I managed to get my life back in order while I was in that condition. I haven't felt sorry for myself. I was angry and disapointed with my family and violent ex husband who they valued over me, but I didn't feel sorry for myself. Only intensly resolved to turn this new county into my home and make sure that they can never find me. When I think that I will never know what it is like to be a normal happy person, I remember that I am 75% better than when I arrived and that I am still going in that same direction. My capacity for happiness is at least 75% better. I celebrate the aniversery of my freedom every year. It reminds me of how much I have accomplished and that I am capable of accomplishimg more. I am looking forward to more happiness and more healing, but until then, I am happy to be where I am. I have a fully furnished apartment. It isn't big, but it feels like a palace. I feel empowered and capable. I have complex PTSD, autism, ADD, bipolar and until recently I had Disssociative Identity Disorder and still made this happen for myself. An aknowledgment of strenghth and a pat on the back feels good, but I would never want anyone to feel sorry for me. I have made myself safe and I am walking tall. I wish that people who have disabilities would believe that they have a lot more potential than they are given credit for. To set thier own golas and to reach for them. After years of hoping that someone would come into my life and save me, I found out that I am the only person capable of being the hero that I was waiting for. I am the only person who will never give up on myself and it good to be that for ourselves as much as we can. When it comes to the person who posed as my father, I know that no ammount of therapy would make him feel remorse. He is still tearing down my reputaion even though I have been gone for years. When I left, he was still hitting my brother. He should spend the rest of his life in prison. I might write a book about it and send him a copy after it has published, so that he knows that I broke his most important rule. I told the world what he did and there is nothing that he can do to me for it. It wouldn't change him and I wouldn't be there to see what that does to him, doing it would be enough and I think that such a book could raise awareness of domestic violence and child abuse. I think that such a book, could inspire other servivors and let them know that they not alone. Thank you so much for your kind words. It is always good to hear them.
@sunnybright8206
@sunnybright8206 4 месяца назад
Learning that it’s now safe to be happy is insane. Wow. I just learned so much about myself
@lauragadille3384
@lauragadille3384 9 месяцев назад
And that's why many go no contact or unfortunately unalive themselves from all the pain they went through.
@sweetsugar1014
@sweetsugar1014 8 месяцев назад
I wanted to go underground it had gotten so bad about 2 1/2 years ago. I wanted to change my name and ss no. So she couldn't find me. But then I thought I'm not losing my identity over her that may mean she's won and I'm not letting that happen.
@flormarthas.ferreira4318
@flormarthas.ferreira4318 10 месяцев назад
Is exactly the way you explain! Thanks for share.
@corinneblair8795
@corinneblair8795 Год назад
Love the way you describe my experience!! You speak the words I have a hard time verbalizing!! TY! Bless you!
@charlottenash9119
@charlottenash9119 10 месяцев назад
I agree 100% That is what has happened to me! I refuse to let my narcissist dad win!!
@GuitarMatt
@GuitarMatt 5 месяцев назад
Thank you, you brother from another mother, Mr Jay dude! Signing off, a 50-yr old! PS-- thankfully I NO LONGER talk to my EX-siblings nowadays
@dark7angel456
@dark7angel456 5 месяцев назад
Also; The constant dreadful anxiety inside myself/internalized fear made into coping fake joy through life and blockages that were formed unconsciously by parents and many narc people I come across unfortunetly. Years and years of dysphoria and mental anguish, confusion, pain and hatred. Now I aim my hatred at whoever caused it, not just anyone in my way! ❤ Thanks... I have never felt more relief knowing that someone understands... The frustration and grief and chronic fatigue and endless battles of narcissitic people and parents that scrambled my life...
@ginaryanbearfighter7065
@ginaryanbearfighter7065 4 месяца назад
So very true. I could never smile or be happy and so I do not smile. That people say mean things to me because I don't smile like normal people do I guess.
@sarah3973
@sarah3973 Год назад
100 i’ve been thinking about this a lot lately can we get a more in depth video please ty❤
@mazskinner5143
@mazskinner5143 Год назад
that is so true. thats the way my nar older sister has treated me all my life!!
@Abulina09
@Abulina09 8 месяцев назад
I need a whole long video on this! 😢
@lordfreerealestate8302
@lordfreerealestate8302 5 месяцев назад
"Destructive conditioning" is a term I found helpful.
@KARRMA333
@KARRMA333 10 месяцев назад
My mom tried to get my kids taken from me and had trash talked me behind my back to every person I've ever tried to date... Ran off my friends. Or built a relationship with them behind my back that is all about mutual trash talk about me. Only narcissistic friends though.
@andnowyouknow3363
@andnowyouknow3363 Год назад
Explains why my ex who has BPD kept me a secret for months before she spilled the beans about our relationship to her mom. Lo and behold, her mom was an important factor in the demise of our relationship. Glad I got myself out of that mess.
@AthiraEaRaD
@AthiraEaRaD Год назад
Its safe to be happy
@JustMe-hg5bq
@JustMe-hg5bq 6 месяцев назад
Jesus so thats why im so scared of life getting better, i never knew why i am so scared of being happy until now (i have depression)
@annaburns2865
@annaburns2865 6 месяцев назад
My mom always told me to get a hobby, so that I wouldn’t telling her how stressed out I was. But the problem with this is that she would always find a way to invalidate my hobbies and make me loose interest in them.
@denisemorris5583
@denisemorris5583 10 месяцев назад
WOW. What a realizaton. New therapy topic to work with...
@sandrathomas2893
@sandrathomas2893 7 месяцев назад
Yes! But sadly that narcissistic parent was the scapegoat child of their narcissistic parent. Rinse and repeat 🔁
@dotsyjmaher
@dotsyjmaher Год назад
Holy moly....SO TRUE
@tomk2926
@tomk2926 8 месяцев назад
Jay don’t be a fool. It’s not safe to be happy. Even after 20 years of no contact, my narc mother finds ways to reach out to people in my life, run smear campaigns and ruin my friendships relationships and businesses. The only solution is getting extremely rich, hiring the best lawyers, and finding ways to intimidate the narc parent with legal threats
@MonicaGunderson
@MonicaGunderson Год назад
On Christmas, my MIL dropped by, and during me showing her the gifts I got from my sister's, nieces, and mom.... My MIL said, "I heard about your dad. What he did, and was in prison. That you haven't seen your dad since you were 5 years old. I'm sorry. I didn't realize your childhood was that bad". Me.... "Ummmm.... Yeah. So ... Back to Christmas..." 😓🙄 Like.... Really..... That was 40 years ago..... 😑 My MIL dislikes that I have a painful autoimmune disease, Ankylosing Spondylitis, and immunocompromised.... With that I have boundaries.... She doesn't like my boundaries either, even though my boundaries are there to literally keep me healthy and safe.... Especially during covid times..... MIL is the type that "covid is just a cold", and "family can't get family sick". In her eyes, I'm a "bad person" for having an autoimmune disease I was born with, and trying to survive in this world while being immunocompromised..... Sounds like a HER problem, not a me problem..... But yeah, her jab about my dad, I feel she was trying to ruin my happiness in that moment.....
@ASMRyouVEGANyet
@ASMRyouVEGANyet Год назад
Is she actually a narcissist? Or does she just make inappropriate comments at awkward times?
@MonicaGunderson
@MonicaGunderson Год назад
@@ASMRyouVEGANyet she does this often...... This was her apology from five+ years ago.... She was telling my husband it was his "destiny" to take care of his dad with dementia.... Someone MIL divorced when my husband was still in diapers, and never was around when my husband grew up. Yet MIL laid it down on my husband hard that it was his "destiny" to take care of his dad. He had tried taking care of his dad, but it really stressed him out to the point where he lost his job, we almost lost our house, we lost health insurance and couldn't get state health insurance because my husband made too much before he lost his job, with no insurance I had nothing to help me manage the chronic pain AND our son almost lost his foot due to an infection (long story), AND my husband started having suicidal idealations.... Hell, I wanted to dissapear, and had suicidal idealations! Yet, even with ALL of that, MIL persisted, it is his destiny to take care of his dad .... She still lays guilt trips on us to this very damn day! For me, I hear a lot of, "I wish you had a high pain tolerance like MY family", "I have a bit of arthritis, it can't be that bad", "My niece has Fibromyalgia, you can't have it too"..... On and on and on...... When my husband was living with and taking care of his dad, the in-laws completely ghosted my son and I..... My family live out of state, but they did send care packages and money of they could afford to. The in-laws, silence, nothing.... My son was in sophomore and senior year in HS during all this. I don't drive because I have chronic pain issues. I cannot even work. MIL took it apon herself to lie and gossip to the other in-laws family that I was faking the pain I was in, and that I "never" had a hard childhood, never abused, and I am making it all up so that I "ruin" my husband's "destiny" of taking care of his dad....... The first post I wrote was some sort of sudo apology? One day, when my husband was living with and taking care of his dad, and my son and I were taking care of each other, since the in-laws who live in the same city ghosted us, came over while I was having a pain flare (pain levels 10, not able to move, felt like an alien birthing out of my head), and MIL came over to berate me... Telling me how I had this "wonderful" childhood, and my stepdad "never" beat me or abused me, and was actually kind. How my dad "never" molested my sister. How my parents just divorced because they didn't love each other anymore. How I need to stop pretending and "ruining" her son's "destiny" to take care of his dad (her x-husband)..... I was in sooo much pain, laying on the couch, ice pack on my head, heating pad on my back, dripping sweat due to all the pain, and all I could do was cry and mouth, "no", because talking even hurt..... My son, who was in his room doing homework, came out and got after his grandma. Told her she needed to leave cause his mom is hurting, and how dare grandma treat his mom like that....... She did end up leaving..... Then lied to my husband and told him it never happened. My husband believed her for years up until he noticed her behavior towards me during the Pandemic.... In 2019, I was diagnosed with a painful and debilitating autoimmune disease, Ankylosing Spondylitis as well as Fibromyalgia and a narrow spinal canal I was born with...... Started Immunosuppressants.... During 2020-2022, MIL doubted me, and again, spread gossip that I was lying, not immunocompromised. Would come by the house banging on windows and the door, shouting, "let me in! Family can't get family sick!" She would yell that I was lying about my Autoimmune Disease and being immunocompromised. There is no such thing as an autoimmune disease or being immunocompromised. It's just allergies. And the topper, she told me my son was going to commit suicide if my husband and I didn't let him do whatever he wanted during a pandemic before vaccines were out...... Even though my son still lived with us (he is 22 right now), and was making his own decision to be careful because he didn't want to unintentionally bring covid home, and get me sick, or cause my death. It was F'ing bonkers! My husband now realizing his mom's behavior, we have placed boundaries and follow up with consequences. I could go on and on about subtle jabs, and how this woman has been towards me since my pain became chronic..... Since the pandemic, and my husband now noticing, he has also been opening up more about his child, and how his mom was covert and overtly abusive towards him.... He had stuffed it down for years, but her actions during 2020-2022 resurfaced the old bad memories.... We worked together, and made boundaries. It seems she is trying, she actually CALLS or texts before just randomly dropping by.... So, there's that..... 🤷‍♀️ BTW, the reason why she apologized.... She was talking to my mom over the phone, and told my mom how I am "pretending" to have an autoimmune disease, immunocompromised, chronic pain, and am "pretending" I had a bad childhood to "ruin" her son's "destiny" of taking care of his father with dementia. And I am "ruining" the family with my lies...... Ooooffffff...... Needless to say, my mom went OFF!!!!!!!!! We lived in a COMPLETE different state from my in-laws when I grew up...... So yeah..... My mom was livid. Tore her a new ahemmm 🐴 🕳️. Both my mom and I haven't spoken to MIL since Christmas...... The one time MIL called before randomly dropping by unannounced, she didn't want to come in because she wasn't updated on her covid vaccine, and had the 💩 for two weeks and didn't want to get me sick. Progress(?). 🤞 I feel there is some definite narcissistic behaviors in MIL, of not narcissistic, toxic as hell. *Married for 23 years by June 17th **PS come to find out later, my son also had suicidal idealations when my husband was living with and taking care of his dad (my son's grandpa), ESPECIALLY when family ghosted us. Not ok. My son had to go through therapy, and still keeps in contact with his therapist. It was messed up. Grateful we are all healing.
@limitedtime5471
@limitedtime5471 Год назад
​@@ASMRyouVEGANyetthis was an unnecessary comment by you. And you should avoid making these comments in the future if you don't want to be an a-hole
@Hippowdon121
@Hippowdon121 Год назад
Personally, I learn Japanese as a teenager but I'm always 'terrified' (I freeze and feel really anxious, and in the moment I feel completely overwhelmed with shame) to speak it with other people or to explore that interest I have. Even though I really like it and enjoy it. It's hard for me to even admit to others what my interests are because they bring up so much shame for me.
@dangerkh1525
@dangerkh1525 8 месяцев назад
I get sudden anxiety when I am to do any activity I like Because my mother and brother made sure they ruined every past event that brought me joy Even when watching the sports I like
@Mr._Zachtastic
@Mr._Zachtastic 10 месяцев назад
That was totally my mom.
@Materialworld4
@Materialworld4 Год назад
My father had complete controller me because what he took from me from the age of 3, was necessary for my ability to survive outside of his sphere of influence. He killed my cat Bubble, who was my best friend when I was 5, He would no let me learn to read until 1st grade. Forced me to live in the same room as his Golden Child at age 6. He may have killed my cat Blackie when I was 9. He tortured dog from when I was 09 to 18. Told all his friends and relatives I was a liar when I had a catastrophic concussion at are 9, which made me so dizzy for 37 year it was like being 3 times over the legal limit. Would not let me take academic classes in collage even though I had athrird years college vocabulary and reading comprehension at the end of 6th grade. I excelled to such a degree in photography I was invited to interview with Ansel Adams for an apprenticeship at this studio/lab in Yosemite. But he made me quit college, would not allow me to go for a week to Yosemite in April 1977. He then forced me to work on the Ford assembly line building cars the next Monday. I was forced to earn money to save a Golden Childs marriage and give them a down payment on a new house. He took away my darkroom which I had designed and built to my exact specification. He would never allow me to go back to school, and never talked to me face to face, ever. He knew I was an exceedingly driven artist, designer, and photographer who wanted to be one of the best in the world. He made my mother, who was a genius that he chose to destroy to come tell me what I had to submit to nest. The threat was always the same, if I tried to take to him I would be thrown out on the street that minute. Funny thing is though there were times I wanted to plunge an axe into his heart, he ended up having his aorta explode on August 23, 1992, because he refused to listen to my heart felt plea to not do something to make his reconstructed aorta explode for good. Though he was an elder in his church, and seemingly nice, the man never said one good thing about in the 38 years we both walked this earth. Jay, its actually worse than that, but I think that gives you a flavor of the evil in ordinary people hearts if their father destroyed them first, which he did. Love ya Jay, damn your GOOD!
@pranavkumartamhane
@pranavkumartamhane 9 месяцев назад
My Ex behaved the same way. She imitated her parents.
@justtrippn3490
@justtrippn3490 11 месяцев назад
Definitely NOT true in my case! I beat that fool at his own game 😂
@nancywysocki
@nancywysocki 10 месяцев назад
so i became ROCKSTAR
@user-wx8pj7ok4k
@user-wx8pj7ok4k 8 месяцев назад
A lot of it was school teachers and peers.
@user-ct1fj9pc4k
@user-ct1fj9pc4k 7 месяцев назад
💯💯💯
@sammie2377
@sammie2377 7 месяцев назад
Yep
@47WaysToGrow
@47WaysToGrow Год назад
Can you explain parental stone walling?
@SaidaVanSweevelt
@SaidaVanSweevelt 7 месяцев назад
And what if I became a stupid 19 year old kid who has this behavior or anything like that I don’t know how to heal this
@inge5627
@inge5627 10 месяцев назад
This was my mother
@bobbycarter5940
@bobbycarter5940 7 месяцев назад
So for good portion of my life whenever I felt happy or excited about something or a situation it would immediately be followed up by anxiety and shame and never understood why. Is that a symptom of what the video is talking about?
@moiratell
@moiratell 8 месяцев назад
Get. Out. Of. My. Head!
@SpecialAgent-zn1vv
@SpecialAgent-zn1vv 8 месяцев назад
Welp
@Vuhjayjay68
@Vuhjayjay68 Год назад
So what do you suggest a parent do when finding out the child has lied and done things they shouldn’t be doing at all at the age of let’s say 12 I’m waiting
@j.c.2240
@j.c.2240 Год назад
Ground them?
@Vuhjayjay68
@Vuhjayjay68 Год назад
@@j.c.2240 without taking things of pleasure to a child how is this done
@j.c.2240
@j.c.2240 Год назад
@@Vuhjayjay68 Is this a genuine question? If so, I recommend you don't have kids. There is a massive difference between the recommended from of discipline for children and a narcissist's hostility towards their child's source of joy. If you don't understand that, don't have kids yet. It's not even a subtle difference, so I really hope you're just taking the piss.
@Vuhjayjay68
@Vuhjayjay68 Год назад
@@j.c.2240 I have three by the way they are all just great and when they get into trouble and do stupid shit they know they aren’t supposed to do you bet your ass I target the things they like doing
@j.c.2240
@j.c.2240 Год назад
@@Vuhjayjay68 And if you do this only for reasonable discipline, IE no phone for a week because you were irresponsible, you're fine. If you're consistently taking the things they enjoy or being unclear or unreasonable about your expectations, then you're doing exactly what's described and should get counseling as soon as possible, as unchecked narcissistic behavior is a really fast way to get your kids to go no contact with you.
@ArabellaPottery
@ArabellaPottery Год назад
This guy is giving people excuses not to love their parents. This guy is a joke!😂😂
@lindabell6954
@lindabell6954 Год назад
it is the opposite. children love their parents. it is the narcissist parent that cannot love the child.
@juneelle370
@juneelle370 Год назад
This video is referring to abusive parents who seek to sabotage/destroy every relationship, opportunity, talent or joy the child/teen/adult has for the purposes of power and control. This is not about natural reasonable consequences for bad behavior like curfews or tech breaks! He specializes in scapegoat family dynamics. I recommend watching his longer videos to understand the toxic dynamics he’s referring to. 💜
@debbiewilder4738
@debbiewilder4738 Год назад
When you've been abused that's a good reason not to like your parents
@user-kl8lo6rj5i
@user-kl8lo6rj5i Год назад
It takes a lot for a parent to lose their child's love. This guy is no joke.
@ArabellaPottery
@ArabellaPottery Год назад
@@user-kl8lo6rj5i It takes even more for a child to lose the love of their parents.
@Joshdifferent
@Joshdifferent Год назад
💯💯💯
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