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MARC Camden Line Cab Ride - Washington to Baltimore (2002) 

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This video was produced by a friend in 2002 aboard an eastbound MARC Camden Line train running from Washington Union Station to Baltimore Camden Station via the CSX Capitol Subdivision. Some things to note include the B&O Color Position Light signals along the entire line and the continued use of "Heritage" type coaches from the early days of MARC. These were soon to be phased out by the availability of MARC III bi-levels.
This morning train served the smaller flow of Baltimore bound commuters and also re-positioned equipment in Baltimore for additional runs south to DC.

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@shortliner68
@shortliner68 4 года назад
I used to do a lot of train watching at various locations between Bailey and Halethorpe back in the 1960s and '70s, being from west Baltimore. A tower operator at HX Tower in Halethorpe was railfan friendly and would invite you up to the tower. It was pretty neat watching him throwing levers to line up crossover moves at the interlocking. While on lunch break at work as a field inspector, I'd park under the Ostend St. bridge at Bailey or out at West Baltimore to check out switching action. Brings back many memories of Baltimore area train activity back then. What I didn't remember was the Baltimore/Washington line having that many curves though i understand it could be a camera setting making it appear more curvy than in reality. Passenger trains, even the former BUDD RDC commuter runs, did go a bit faster than this along the line back in B&O days. Enjoyed the ride!
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 4 года назад
Thanks for the info!
@googoo-gjoob
@googoo-gjoob 3 года назад
from Dorsey east its almost exclusively curves. the curve MP17-18 is almost 2 miles long. the curve MP26-27 is over 1 mile long.
@chief1b
@chief1b 5 лет назад
Time gone past. At Union Station on the left Metro train riding past the site of now a new Metro station that was only grass in 2002. WOW. Great trip with lots of memories I use to ride the train from College Park to Baltimore in my college days in the 80's Thanks for sharing
@trainmancorey
@trainmancorey 6 лет назад
I have a feeling you have a load of these amazing cab ride videos stored. Can't wait for more.
@dragondancer1814
@dragondancer1814 7 месяцев назад
I grew up in that northern part of Prince George’s County, and I’ve driven up and down Route 1 by the tracks between College Park and Laurel a million times! It’s so neat seeing my old stomping grounds from the train’s perspective and recognizing the roads and bridges crossing the tracks! The area has changed a _LOT,_ but the tracks and MARC stops remain a constant! Thanks for the visit through my old neighborhood!
@jaymorgenthal9479
@jaymorgenthal9479 4 года назад
Yes, this is the former B&O route of the Royal Blue. Lots of old B&O signals still intact. WAMTA Green and Yellow lines run parallel up to their Greenbelt Terminus
@LouisDefaux
@LouisDefaux 5 лет назад
Interested to watch movies with trains without machinist? You can watch if you get time: UNSTOPPABLE and RUNAWAY TRAIN.Don't worry. Only movies but awesome to watch: these are THRILLER films.
@dmvgrower9290
@dmvgrower9290 4 года назад
Live in the area and this is super awesome 👍
@robertwshephard4454
@robertwshephard4454 4 года назад
Telephoto lenses suck.
@Wingnutcaseman
@Wingnutcaseman 3 года назад
I agree. But Mike says the guy who recorded this did so to give a full picture view on screen. I personally wouldn’t have minded having part of the image blocked by the window frame and hood for better perception.
@robertgambling502
@robertgambling502 4 года назад
I noticed that several commenters complained about the apparent slowness. That is because the camera was in telephoto probably because of constrictions in the locomotive cab. That and the height of the cab off the ground level accentuated the slowness. You can remedy that by going into your settings and hit playback speed and hit 2X. At 2X, the audio is not too distorted and you get a faster ride plus your viewing time is cut in half.
@wizardofodds8239
@wizardofodds8239 3 года назад
Camera lens was definitely in telephoto mode, truncating the approaching scenery and rail.
@humphery1950
@humphery1950 4 года назад
Wonder how his deck turned out?
@tact86
@tact86 6 лет назад
Good video, Thanks for sharing!
@googoo-gjoob
@googoo-gjoob 3 года назад
"i think i know where youre talkin about. but i cant think of the name tho i know what youre talkin about"
@harvey2465
@harvey2465 Год назад
Slow and curvy line to Camden station, close to stadium, but a walk just to the edge of downtown Baltimore.
@christopherbentley7289
@christopherbentley7289 2 года назад
In those days I was in regular touch across the Water with somebody - living in Ellicott City - who ran a site entitled 'Art Deco Architecture' who had come in on our - unfortunately unsuccessful! - campaign over saving the former Bus and Coach Station in my home city of Derby, UK, so it's very good to get an insight of travelling around the Baltimore area around the turn of the Millennium and very shortly thereafter. We have a beauty spot in North Derbyshire called 'Surprise View', where one goes round a corner in the road to be confronted by a view of a large, wide vale. That being confronted by the Baltimore skyline round a curve after going through leafy countryside is very reminiscent of that. You could call it the 'Surprise View' of Maryland!
@Wingnutcaseman
@Wingnutcaseman 3 года назад
Why do the air brakes sometimes sound like a screaming woman?
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 3 года назад
The equalizing reservoir vents into the cab and makes a whistling noise.
@CentralJerseyRailfan
@CentralJerseyRailfan 6 лет назад
Just saw these now-these cab rides are incredible and this one is no exception. Was this filmed from inside a GP39H-3 or GP40WH-2?
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 6 лет назад
I think a WH.
@eastamericantrains589
@eastamericantrains589 5 лет назад
Jersey Mike's Rail Videos it’s a 39 you can tell because you can see the railing to climb up to the cab. WH is mainly entered through the back and the front is hard to get in.
@hmitchell8618
@hmitchell8618 4 года назад
It’s a WH because of the way the yellow bar is facing.
@daveporter8351
@daveporter8351 10 месяцев назад
I remember5 on the front in 2ooo....at lake erie div .....what happened and its flat up there
@robertswickard8355
@robertswickard8355 Год назад
I had to turn down the volume , the guy talking has a higher pitch voice that sounds like a 7 year old boy
@jamielacourse7578
@jamielacourse7578 2 года назад
I've learned how to read the signals up here in frostbitten Canada...... we use the stack of three lights most times....
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 2 года назад
Unfortunately your typically simple layouts don't get to make good use of some of your more crazy signal indications.
@zygmundzygmundowski
@zygmundzygmundowski Год назад
Does anyone know if this train finally make it to Baltimore?
@AllAboardAudio.
@AllAboardAudio. 6 лет назад
Golden
@judpowell1756
@judpowell1756 5 лет назад
the route of B&O's Royal Blue trains
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A 4 года назад
The Camden line is a non-electrified line; I typically take the Penn Line (services the same two endpoints, but uses different routing in between). The Penn Line uses the NEC, basically; the Camden Line does not.
@arnoldstollar5375
@arnoldstollar5375 5 лет назад
The train is a miracle
@nycsubwayproduction3507
@nycsubwayproduction3507 6 лет назад
Jersey Mike's rail video are you a train operator or do you get permission
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 6 лет назад
Read the description. This video was produced by a friend.
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A 2 года назад
Riverdale Park is a suburb of College Park - not merely of DC; it is along US 1 - not either the BW Parkway or NEC.
@SailorMoonRailfan
@SailorMoonRailfan 5 лет назад
Do you mind if I use this for a Sound-set for Railworks Train Simulator 2020 please?
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 5 лет назад
You'll probably want to cut out the conversations? Otherwise you can if you link me the finished result.
@SailorMoonRailfan
@SailorMoonRailfan 5 лет назад
Okay I will.
@douglasengle2704
@douglasengle2704 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. I measured 11.22 mi using google maps mesaure tool between St. Denis Departure 34:50 and Camden Yards Arrival 53:10 that took 18 min 20 sec for an average moving speed of 37.72 mph. I was surprised it was actually that fast. I've always known speeds on a train can seem a lot slower than you are actually going. This uses the times in the film and assumes the film ran continues and there were no gaps. I've always wondered what the non northeast corridor B&O tracks where between D.C. and Baltimore these turned out to be those tracks. Pretty cool!
@Robbi496
@Robbi496 3 года назад
This is NOT a quiet cab, that brake reservoir screams like s scared cat!
@LexTheTrainFan315
@LexTheTrainFan315 Год назад
3:05 why is there a Sounder Commuter Rail on the NEC. It normally operates of the Pacific NW.
@PositionLight
@PositionLight Год назад
MARC was leasing some Sounder sets in the 2000's
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A 4 года назад
The Camden line is not powered - unlike the Penn Line (which also runs from DC to Baltimore) - hence the use of DE power (and the lack of caternaries).
@googoo-gjoob
@googoo-gjoob 3 года назад
43:49 i think i saw Kenny Cain at the Lansdowne Inn
@robertswickard8355
@robertswickard8355 Год назад
AND THIS IS WHY THE PENNSY OWNED THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR , PENNSY ------ NYC TO D.C. 1.5 HRS. FAST B&O. ------ BALT TO D.C.1.5 HRS SLOW
@davidbarnett9312
@davidbarnett9312 4 года назад
After watching cab views of passenger/commuter trains in the UK yesterday, this is pathetic. The folks who ride this train must not be in any hurry. The UK trains rock 'n roll at high speeds between stops, but this one plods along.
@voidjavelin23
@voidjavelin23 Год назад
Atleast a leaf cant stop a train in america
@jamesnichols2188
@jamesnichols2188 2 года назад
Nice enjoyed very munch thanks
@PGHammer21A
@PGHammer21A 4 года назад
To the left (leaving Union Station) is the Galludet University/NoMa subway station (aboveground) - this line also services Union Station (Red Line). On the right is Ivy City - a multi-customer service center (AMTRAK, MARC, and VRE).
@MelloMathTeacher
@MelloMathTeacher 3 года назад
This video was recorded in 2002; the NoMa-Gallaudet University station wasn't constructed until 2004 (known then as "New York Avenue," then renamed to include Florida Avenue and Gallaudet U, then renamed again to the current name).
@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999
@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999 6 лет назад
What was that Bi-Level set in the Yard of Amtrak at 3:15? Looks like a set for CA base on the design of the cars.
@AllAboardAudio.
@AllAboardAudio. 6 лет назад
Ryan Hatterer That is actually a Sounder commuter consist. Sounder operates out of Washington state.
@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999
@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999 6 лет назад
Since when? I don't remember Sounder even running on the east coast.
@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999
@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999 6 лет назад
Sorry, got it wrong, I miss read the state as station lol. I was wondering why it was over 2,000 miles away from home.
@PotomacRails
@PotomacRails 6 лет назад
Sounder cars were leased by the Virginia Railway express back in the early 2000s, along with an f59phi for their commuter trains.
@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999
@RyanHatterer-Ryanns999 6 лет назад
Something told me that, but I thought they ask Amtrak for a set instead of sending a set from the west and pay for the trip. But either way thank you and it throw me off so much.
@googoo-gjoob
@googoo-gjoob 3 года назад
well..... that was a fun trip down memory lane. thanks.
@josealmeida8282
@josealmeida8282 5 лет назад
Who the hell talk alot? The enginer talk to much faster then the loco,so weird!!!
@beckettmurtaugh3170
@beckettmurtaugh3170 5 лет назад
Holy shit its slow
@Wingnutcaseman
@Wingnutcaseman 4 года назад
A zoom lens is being used. A traditional view would give better speed and depth perception. The tradeoff is that much of the view would be blocked by the window frame.
@caseywedel1969
@caseywedel1969 2 года назад
19,000 tons going up Balfour hill is about 17 mph average when i ride a coal train. Freight is heavy sir. This is music to my ears with that prime mover wound up
@mrkongsimr
@mrkongsimr 3 года назад
Nice , but looks so slow . Thanks
@jorgemunozaguilar
@jorgemunozaguilar 3 года назад
Que aburrido y fome.
@voidjavelin23
@voidjavelin23 Год назад
entonces no lo mires...
@westrain2
@westrain2 Год назад
Very curvy line
@PositionLight
@PositionLight Год назад
It actually has very few permanent speed restrictions. Almost the entire line is good for 70mph.
@daniellucas6573
@daniellucas6573 6 лет назад
Enjoyed it!
@野上元-m3s
@野上元-m3s 6 лет назад
9:40 UMDCP
@jwslijm7278
@jwslijm7278 4 года назад
My God. It is that it is now 18 years ago, but so commutertravel will be a thing of the past in the USA! But besides that nice video!
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 4 года назад
Not sure I get what you mean. Even this diesel service is faster than driving to downtown DC in the peak period.
@douglasengle2704
@douglasengle2704 4 года назад
Do you mean COVID-19 had seriously taken out the patronage public transport needs to make reasonable sense at least in the current way funding is seen. At 25% capacity which is what a lot of couch travel is using as a social distancing measure doesn't seem reasonable for future investment. Right now Sep 8, 2020 public travel is reporting occupancies of 5% in some locations so enforcing 25% capacity isn't an issue. Amtrak sleepers are in much heavier use than the coaches.
@jwslijm7278
@jwslijm7278 4 года назад
@@douglasengle2704 My answer / post was in January 2020 (?!). I think that the Covid-19 / Coronavirus was at that time not a real issue in the world.
@lilburrellbaby
@lilburrellbaby 5 лет назад
15:56 why are are y'alls tracks connecting to the metro's tracks? 16:10 why are those tracks connected? Why is it that some tracks have overhead wires and some don't? Why are y'all going to slow? 16:40 & 16:46 & 31:38 why was y'alls tracks connected to CSX tracks? 34:31 where do those tracks go? 40:03 where do those tracks go to? 41:36 where do those tracks go to? 42:59 where do those tracks go to? 45:30 where do those tracks go to? 47:48 - the end .. why we're you going extremely slow?
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 5 лет назад
Most of what you are asking about are just freight delivery sidings.
@Mikewells90
@Mikewells90 5 лет назад
lilburrellbaby why do ask so many fricken questions
@robertmason7553
@robertmason7553 5 лет назад
@TC FenstermakerThat's funny because Im from DC but I live in Nebraska and I work for a steel company that delivers the metal for the new Metro cars at Kawasaki in Lincoln. I go down all the time and watch them test run the new cars in their yard. I see them before any decals or road numbers and then every once in a while I will see one on a stretched out semi being hauled down I-80. They are pretty sweet cars.
@robertmason7553
@robertmason7553 5 лет назад
BTW Kawasaki is hiring like fools except im not moving back to Lincoln. I love my steel job and too many liberals down there. I lived in Lincoln for two years and couldn't stand it like I cant stand DC or MD.
@paulw.woodring7304
@paulw.woodring7304 5 лет назад
OK, I was a CSX conductor and engineer out of Baltimore in that era. The train left Union Station from track 15, to the left of "K" Tower. Just before Greenbelt station on the left was the siding for the Washington Post Greenbelt, MD printing plant. After Greenbelt station is the Greenbelt MetroRail maintenance facility, and the switch is there` so Metro can receive and send out equipment by rail. Just past that is Sunnyside Rd. and the beginning of the Beltsville USDA Agricultural Research Center. The spurs in this area serve commercial and industrial customers in Beltsville. (I lived up one of the streets off of US Rt. 1, which was to the left of the railroad before Ammendale Interlocking). Muirkirk station is actually named for the road, it's in Beltsville, just south of Laurel MD S. Rt. 200, the "Intercounty Connector", ends on Rt. 1 just north of the station. When the train gets up to Savage there is another industrial track to businesses in that area. As the train left Savage station you could see the power for a "Rock Runner" and it's train being loaded at the stone quarry. They used to have a radio-controlled GE that was ex-Lehigh Valley and Conrail. The signal at CP 'PA" on track #1 controls the entrance to Jessup yard, one of the largest automobile loading/unloading facilities on the East Coast. As you rounded the curve there you could briefly see the MD state prison at Jessup to the right. Again there are more industrial spurs, the Columbia and Waterloo branches come off of the east lead at Jessup. The Dorsey Industrial Track comes off on the left up a steep grade just East of Dorsey station. Approaching Baltimore at Relay (there used to be a hotel where the Old Main Line and the Cap came together at the monument to the viaduct), the Thomas Viaduct was built in 1833, and is not the oldest existing railroad bridge in the U. S. That honor goes to the Carrollton Viaduct on the Mt. Clare Branch, which comes off of track 3 past W. Baltimore. Past CP Halethorpe (since replaced by one at St. Denis) was the lead to the Halethorpe I. T., which was the fairgrounds for the 1927 B&O Fair of the Iron Horse. At W. Baltimore, if you go to the right off of Tr. 3, you go over the mainline on Zepps Bridge and Mt. Winans yard (used to hold trains and cuts of cars, to the left of the train) towards Curtis Bay yard. The Mt. Clare branch loops around through what was a series of yards (A thru D) that led to the Mt. Clare shops (now the B&O Museum), crosses Washington Blvd. by the old Montgomery Wards, and rejoins the main at CP Carroll. The local freight that the train passed at CP Carroll was turning off down the South Baltimore Industrial Track, which goes to the Curtis Bay Branch at CP Clifford. The MARC train was getting signals that most would never see on a typical main track because of the many different moves a train could make there. There are explanations of B&O CPL signals available on the net, so I won't go into them here. Just before the train entered the platform at Camden Station you could see the South Portal of the Howard St. Tunnel off to the right. Straight ahead before the train passed Raven's Stadium began the Locust Point branch to Locust Point yard which forms the Bailey Wye. Baltimore Terminal had wye tracks there, at Curtis Bay Junction next to Mt. Winans Yard, and at Bay View Yard on the east side. I've been gone from CSX for over 10 years now so I don't know what's left of all of that.
@electricsparks4251
@electricsparks4251 4 года назад
Why is this train running so slow? Should be going at least 60 MPH.
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 4 года назад
Line speed is 70. The camera had to zoom through the front window and past the short hood. That flattens the image and makes things appear slower.
@googoo-gjoob
@googoo-gjoob 3 года назад
@@PositionLight , additionally, csx rules require a max of 40 when 'delayed in block'
@dragicevicgeorges-dorde8225
@dragicevicgeorges-dorde8225 4 года назад
It's a snail train. The environment cannot be seen from too high a speed
@voidjavelin23
@voidjavelin23 Год назад
No shit its fast but its just that they use telephoto look like its slow
@josealmeida8282
@josealmeida8282 5 лет назад
What a hell of speed is that? Is this a passenger service? What kind of crap of locomotive is that??? Are you joking with trains and passengers??? Is that a JOKE??? MARC OF JOKING???
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 5 лет назад
It's a 60-70mph line. Performance is pretty standard for diesel commuter lines.
@Wingnutcaseman
@Wingnutcaseman 3 года назад
The videographer had the camera zoomed out for a full screen picture but at the cost of speed and depth perception.
@susiejohnson8235
@susiejohnson8235 5 лет назад
What a mess you has he to clean it up
@daveyboy_
@daveyboy_ 5 лет назад
Pretty damm slow
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 5 лет назад
Faster than the beltway.
@jg-7780
@jg-7780 5 лет назад
It also looks a bit slower than it is at times because the cab is so high off the ground it messes with your perspective and makes it look slower, kinda like how when you’re on an airplane it doesn’t feel like you’re going as fast as you are, just this time on a smaller scale.
@daveyboy_
@daveyboy_ 5 лет назад
@@jg-7780 I watch other train videos's and they're bookin' . This ; you can tell its s.l.o
@jg-7780
@jg-7780 5 лет назад
Most passenger engines sit closer to the ground, so there is no perspective weirdness
@cats0182
@cats0182 6 лет назад
Was this the route of the B&O "Royal Blue" between NJ and DC?
@Wingnutcaseman
@Wingnutcaseman 3 года назад
Yes it was.
@ElectronicsTech09
@ElectronicsTech09 4 года назад
Is this a freight or passenger train ?
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 4 года назад
Passenger.
@ZorriMusic
@ZorriMusic 4 года назад
Why is this train so slow and why are stations so short?
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 4 года назад
It's a 70mph line with most traffic going to Dorsey and Laurel. Trains are only about 3-6 cars.
@susanwood4171
@susanwood4171 6 лет назад
At time stamp 44:11, what is the signal indication? That is the only 3 head signal on the route. What's up with that?
@DCRailfanner
@DCRailfanner 6 лет назад
I think it's a stop indication, but the signal could be down for maintenance.
@GP30RDMT
@GP30RDMT 6 лет назад
That's Lansdowne. It looks like at the time, the signal was only for 3 and 1, not 2 track the train is traveling on. Currently, it's an absolute for 3 and 1, and another set of heads has been added as an intermediate for track 2.
@googoo-gjoob
@googoo-gjoob 3 года назад
@@GP30RDMT , correct. absolute signals _almost_ always exist to coincide with a switch. Lansdowne has no switch on #1.
@southernrailfanning5516
@southernrailfanning5516 3 года назад
He ran a red signal at timestamp 44:09 !
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 3 года назад
The old LANSDOWNE interlocking was only in service on the middle two tracks. Note the rightmost signal is mounted to left of the rightmost track the train is running on. That means it applies to the track to the left.
@Austinxddd
@Austinxddd 4 года назад
I bet all those signals are replaced
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 4 года назад
Yes, all except the ones at Greenbelt.
@mshotz1
@mshotz1 3 года назад
Bryn Marr? Berwick? Brandywine?
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 3 года назад
Huh?
@mshotz1
@mshotz1 3 года назад
@@PositionLight The town in PA near Philadelphia.
@rosannemcdonald2607
@rosannemcdonald2607 3 года назад
Baeden
@pauludulutch4353
@pauludulutch4353 2 года назад
Nice video dude asking the annoying questions needs to shut up. He’ll never get another cab ride!
@jonathanng2390
@jonathanng2390 3 года назад
Easier to watch with the sound turned off. SMFH
@sethtriggs
@sethtriggs 6 лет назад
Wow this is a great video! Nice to see this route. What kind of locomotive is driving it?
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 6 лет назад
Probably a GP40WH-2
@ElectronicsTech09
@ElectronicsTech09 4 года назад
What is the top speed on this line ?
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 4 года назад
70mph
@carlosarias9882
@carlosarias9882 5 лет назад
This was a diesel??
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 5 лет назад
Yes.
@wizardofodds8239
@wizardofodds8239 3 года назад
I must be. Sounds like the dang thing has thrown a rod!!
@SupernalOne
@SupernalOne 5 лет назад
railroad yards sure are dismal, nasty, and dangerous! The open line is nice though.
@rapman5363
@rapman5363 5 лет назад
SupernalOne rail yards are not for the weak at heart, that’s for sure!! An unforgiving and dirty environment that will kick your ass in a New York minute.
@corpsevoice
@corpsevoice 4 года назад
snail(typically american!!) pace!!!!!!!
@SLRNUT
@SLRNUT 3 года назад
Investment difference. Painful to watch coming from europe. 37mph average!
@ricksclick
@ricksclick 5 лет назад
Historically interesting (kind-of) but I couldn't take the shaky, low resolution image for 54:40 minutes. Sorry.
@PositionLight
@PositionLight 5 лет назад
Sorry i couldn't send a 4k camera back in time.
@FanRailer
@FanRailer Год назад
You're being dramatic... it wasn't THAT bad. I've seen WAY worse from amateurs with 4k equipment equipped with automatic stabilizers.
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