I really started liking Dean Martin when I saw how patient he was with Marilyn in this film, and how he refused to do the movie with another actress once she was fired. He said he would complete the picture with her and no one else. That was real kindness on his part.
I agree , he obviously felt for her and noticed the way others treated her badly. It's just heartbreaking how others treated her and how even now in this comment section not just men, but even women are calling her nasty and fat... So sad.
Deano was a good egg. And he always had gingerale or apple juice in his champagne glass when he was schticking it up on stage w the rat pack. Someone needs to do an epic movie on his life.
I honestly don't care what anyone says but as far as I'm concerned she was one of the most beautiful women in the world and could tug at your heartstrings with her performances. There will never be another Marilyn
Susan Shaw lol Heather went on every single persons comment to talk shit in Marilyn. Starting to wonder if “shes” even real. Who has that much time on their hands? That’s literally hundreds of comments times however many times she talked shit in each one. Oh my 😂😂😂🤦🏼♀️
Most of the reason she was beautiful was a great makeup artist and the illusion of sexy. Her charisma was her charm. Others are much more naturally beautiful like Sandra Bullock.
@@heidithomas5455 sandra bullock? while i'm a fan of hers, even NOW she isn't considered one of hollywood's or the world's great beauties, bullock that is.. much less ALL TIME great beauties...
@@tomschmitz261 Burt Reynolds said, before he died, Marylin and he had attended the same acting class at the same time and he walked with her down the street. Nobody recognize her as Marylin and he asked her why. She turned away from him and fixed her hair and walk. Then cars began to slow down. Marylin "the movie star" was a persona; an act. Sandra Bullock is real. Sandra doesn't need to put on an act. She is now America's sweetheart.
Makeup can't make an average woman as beautiful and radiant as Marilyn Monroe. The final photos of Marilyn on the beach at age 36 with only mascara are stunning.
Poor thing. She knew she was over the hill. She gave it out wherever she could. She used it to advance her career. It was a mistake to get involved with Bobby. I believe Bobby ordered her death.
Lisa Siciliano true- even more today when 40 or 50 is the new 30- I thought she was lovely-. CINY who Christina Sninklely pinkly or whatever- no contest,- have a great week!
36 is the age beauty starts to noticeably fade for movie actresses.... give or take a few years. Garbo did her last film at age 36...and according to Cukor who also directed Garbo in her last film Garbo was already talking to him about the lines on her face which were starting to show up on camera.
She was abiously going through depression, she did not feel appreciated, God knows what more. All her life seeking true love and only ended alone, misunderstood. Such beautiful woman gone like that😞
Evo Gg80 Beautiful and intelligent, no respect for women ...what a shame a great loss... a great actress... but then I viewed her as human being...back then and now...
She was being drugged and became an addict.. Look at the way the men talk about her. She was viewed as a commodity, not a human being. Shame on Hollywood for treating a woman this way.
Exactly. It's evil. And she was not fat! I am 35 and probably her size maybe a little bit more petite, but my husband even said she was never fat. It's upsetting all the nasty comments in this world towards women that are not 5'9 and 110 lbs.
Yeah it's sad but true - many actresses in that era were treated the same. Judy Garland was given sleeping pills etc to keep her going and make her work harder. They were indeed just commodities.
@Heather Anderson What a weird response. You are clearly out of touch. Shaming women for having sex. Also using "Madonna" as a current reference to slut shame. Open your eyes and fast forward a few decades.
@@metastract yeah Judy was fed uppers to keep her workin and keep her weight down as a kid actor and then sleeping pills to make her rest all when she was very young this started
The most beautiful woman of all time I especially love her voice & the best-looking 36 year old woman I've ever seen & it seemed like the older she was getting the more prettier she got
Poor lady. I don't condone what she did but i feel so bad for her because of her childhood and how she just wanted to be sincerely loved and treated like a human, not a toy. She was so sweet too.
He was - but HE HAD walked off the set himself in anger at MM himself. It’s possible Dean just had had enough of the whole project. He made a professional decision.
Donielle Stenson Sadly, She was a drug addict who cost the studios so much money with her alcoholism and serious pill addictions, and her spoiled brat attitude. She was given unlimited opportunities to clean up and did not, thus made herself vulnerable to the wrong men and major issues with Hollywood .....her relationships failed, her career failed because of her immaturity and lack of self awareness and confidence in her own talent. Addicts become a royal pain in the ass. They have no boundaries why using.
@@suzyyoung525 Who cares? They benefited from her. I believe the drugs were prescribed?? She was probably suffering from side effects as well, so how could she function properly? After all is said and done though, she's still a legend...and you're still watching this.
La femminilità fatta persona...dolce.. sensuale.. innocente.. UNICA..un angelo...riposa in pace piccola stella...la tua luce brillerà per sempre...ti amo
Marilyn was abused BEFORE she was in Hollywood. (You didn’t talk about sexual abuse! It was ALWAYS the GIRL’S fault!!) When she was in Hollywood, “the doctor” would give you drugs to help u wake up, drugs to help you sleep, drugs for whatever! If you are already mentally unstable, throwing drugs in the mix doesn’t help! There was no real treatment for mental illness then. So she had no chance. Men used & abused her (yes, Victoria, John F. Kennedy was a horrible person). Then firing her? Just destroyed her. 🙁
Yes she grew up from a horrible childhood.. went to do modeling for cash and it lead to Hollywood deal..the made her into a sex symbol..they did surgical enhancements on her face nose surgery eye lids contoured chin reduced bleach hair blonde..and she probably believed everyone would love, adore her...she was brainwashed..there is no love in the industry. She died alone.
She truly was. I mean, you can see that she has matured from her "young girl" roles, but Heaven's above...look how stunningly beautiful she was at that moment in time.
I agree with yoy too. That crochedy old man shaming her age at 37?? And threatening there are always young starlets behind her. What a blast*** The social norms in that era completly added to her pathology. They pigeon holed her and she was talented beyond her bombshell appearance. No body gave a damn about her mental illness and the Kennedy men were creeps how they treated her. Joe DiMaggio came through at the end of her life.
If she'd had Liz's character, she wouldn't have died. She had a gentle character and everyone, including her husbands, took ADVANTAGE of that. It's so obvious. Liz Taylor would never have allowed that. May they both rest in peace.
I would agree with that. Both Liz and Marilyn were probably the two most beautiful women to come out of Hollywood, their feminine wiles unparalleled. But where Marilyn was a lamb, Liz was a fox. Liz was tough! And Liz took up for Marilyn before. I really liked that about Liz.
All you have to do is see the takes from "Something's Got to Give" to see that MM was at her most beautiful (facially and body wise) immediately before her passing. She was absolutely breathtaking and seemed almost luminous.
The only reason I feel she was so defiant, was because she was mistreated and taken advantage of in the beginning of her career, her mental instability was brushed under the rug, she wasn't appreciated for her talents and her hard work, and she was just sick of it! Paula Strasberg (in my opinion) completely took advantage of her, milking as much money out of her, and having as much power as possible over Monroe, she was thrown in so many different directions by so many different people, and I feel all this combined is what ultimately ended her short life
I read she moved 40 times in her 36 years. I''m 45 and I've moved 28 and that makes me sick every time I've to pack my stuff even for hollydays. In top of so many moves she was not loved from any family, married to run away from foster system, had to sell her body in so many ways to have a roof over her head and eat upon al of this keep up an opportunity to work, being badly yelled and strugling not to loose her temper and slam these freacking abusers maybe would make her feeling less tired you know. Her illness was because she was overly "nice" some kicks and romps help bring the energy to the body and MIND, but... Who wants an energetic and self assured woman around?
Ewan Oxborrow this poor woman was nuts from the get go! She was so beautiful. I remember my dad saying years ago if the news would just leave her alone she would be ok.
Ewan Oxborrow i agree with you!She was used by too many!She needed to be loved but all they wanted was her body and money!!!Poor soul,she was too sensitive and delicate to survive among wolfes!I love her so much❤❤❤
Personally & Privately: I could have blown their brains out myself, butt, somebody else took good care of it themselves. (guess who?) These bloody bastards, that deliberately overdosed Marilyn Monroe, duly deserved to die divinely decreed destructive deaths, due directly to their devilish deceptive dealings and dicey demonic doings dammit; whosoever, they may/might be?!
Monique Santos beautiful, tired with a lot on her mind. Wire tapping, the Kennedy’s and sedating herself as a coping mechanism to numb all of her insecurities and there were many. Childhood sets up our entire belief system as to our self-confidence and image. In her mind she was never enough, that’s what she believed to be true and she had it reinforced to her over and over again ( Hollywood didn’t help ), law of attraction, self-fulfilling prophecy.
How does it make you feel ?? I can't tell if that's causing most my severe fatigue or my 4 autoimmune diseases. I gave constant sinuses ppl pressure and pain and a strange smell from time to time. My nasal cavity hurts and I get swollen below my eyelids.. my grandmother had surgery in the 70s for it but bled so bad after surgery and then all symptoms returned...
@@cappystrano1 You must be a closeted homosexual. It's only natural for a straight man to be attracted to a soft, feminine body. Estrogen stores fat, testosterone burns it. That's why men are skinny and feminine women have hips, thighs, breasts, and asses.
@Heather Anderson You sound like you're built like a man. Women are supposed to be feminine looking. Have you ever had your estrogen levels checked? Often times skinny women aren't producing enough estrogen. Marilyn was built sooo feminine and pretty.
This woman was ill and her doctors should have been held accountable. I can guarantee she had an undiagnosed medical disorder and they pushed her immune system all for $$$$$$
Exposing Liars Doctors milked these people for big money. Doctors didn't help Elvis Presley either...they wanted their big paychecks...to them their illnesses were cash cows.
There's a lot of theories that she had borderline personality disorder, which causes severe depression and exhaustion on itself. She had a troubled childhood and low self esteem - shame she couldn't have had more help and unconditional love 💖
Truly she was and always will be the world's greatest. There's just something about her that makes her stand out above the rest and hell wasn't she beautiful! Just a pity her candle burnt out so soon, but her legend never will.
Seeing the trade papers print that her career was over then getting fired could very well have been the final straw to her. Being rejected & abandoned after so much attention can trigger a major break. 💔
Personally & Privately: I could have blown their brains out myself, butt, somebody else took good care of it themselves. (guess who?) These bloody bastards, that deliberately overdose Marilyn Monroe, duly deserved to die divinely decreed destructive deaths, due directly to their devilish deceptive dealings and dicey demonic doings dammit; whosoever, they may/might be?!
Are u kidding me, Marilyn Monroe was spoiled ass hell. NOBODY could get away with as much as she could and still keep their damn job. She wanted to prove to everybody she was a great actress but remained unprofessional as fuck and this isn't the only movie she messed up acting like the whole damn world revolved around her. She was a sweet woman but she was also the original stereotypical diva if there ever was one. Who was truly used and abused and thrown to the dogs like a worn out used piece of meat was Judy Garland.
Here is a tidbit that many people don't seem to realize. Marilyn did not take all of the pills on her nightstand. Her half sister, Bernice Miracle, flushed the remaining contents of all of the bottles down the toilet when helping to clean up her home and prepare for her wake. She said that she did it because of her love for Marilyn at the time, but later wished that she hadn't done so. Also, a few of those bottles were perfectly innocent. They were prescription bottles for antibiotics for her sinusitis and also prescription allergy medications.
Back when I was growing up, it was "29 and counting." You could NEVER admit to even being 30! Your life and desirability was OVER at that age. Gloria Steinam came out when she was 40 years old, and everyone said "You don't look 40!" and she said "how would you know, as no one can admit to being 40. So no one knows "what it looks like."
@6:29 we see the real Marilyn surface. She could not stop herself from hugging those children and she looked at them so tenderly. There was nothing fake about her reaction to them. She was so wonderful with children.
@Heather Anderson You're not that interesting, you just post way too much. Either you're extremely ugly and overweight/or skinny and gross or you're some old person trying to live their youth again. Either way, you need to learn to deal with your insecurity.
She showed up to work 13 of the 30 required days. If anyone did that they’d be fired by whoever the boss was man or woman. Major movie stars show up for work even if they have a cold because they know too much money would be lost if they don’t.
My God! This woman was so physically ill! She probably had pnemonia undiagnosed. I think nobody wanted to have that info come out. I had pnemonia. When ur that ill you act crazy.
Her birthday was even disrespectful......did you see her card? It said, "Happy Birthday (suit)" with a half nude portrait of herself on it. THEN, she wasn't even allowed to celebrate while on set. Why not do it halfway through, maybe she would have had a better next half of the work day???? Hollywood killed her. Not herself. She was too much like an object rather than a woman.
Personally & Privately: I could have blown their brains out myself, butt, somebody else took good care of it themselves. (guess who?) These bloody bastards, that deliberately overdose Marilyn Monroe, duly deserved to die divinely decreed destructive deaths, due directly to their devilish deceptive dealings and dicey demonic doings dammit; whosoever, they may/might be?! ("II Dott. Greenson negozio"...corrupt criminal co-conspirator. predatory profiteer phony physician psychopath)
She swam nude in the pool.She ensnared with her sexuality and provocative behavior.The weekend before she died was spent at the Cal Neva lounge.She got in over her head with scorpions. She was no innocent.However noonecshould center their life around others opinions of who and what they become. She trusted and was misled.
Considering the profits she brought in..they couuld have stopped for a birthday..but she was a tool to be used. And Marilyn just allowed herself to be used Bc she didn't know better, of what was right or wrong.
This is sad bc she was not meant to be a star, she got dragged into the Hollywood realm, with promise of being loved and adored..she was used like a piece of meat. Told to act and dress and behave a certain way. Grew up in various foster homes and an arranged marriage16yrs old to get her out the house. She didnt know how to boil an egg. She was a nothing. No siblings no relatives no parents. Alone. Hollywood groomed her that being a sex symbol you will be apprecialted..and u know what..she started to hate it became defiant.
I have dealt with Mj. Depression for decades. I have functioned well because I was expected to. I lived up to it over 100%. Since my husband, mom and dad died, all within 2 years of each other, I their caretaker along with hospice workers. My ability to dissociate allowed me to be a better caretaker actually. I slept, ate, bathed and wanted/needed for MUCH less than anyone else who bothered to come around. My heart was with my loved ones. My CORE family. Now gone, the depression has come back full force. I understand why she couldn't get to work or remember her lines. CLASSIC symptoms of depression when compared to an otherwise happy, productive professional and private life. WHAT IS DISGUSTING TO ME WATCHING THIS AND KNOWING HOW I AM TREATED DESPITE 38 years of service to my community, is the overt degradation, assault and COMPLETE lack of empathy for people, even to this day, who are going through hard times and need compassion, empathy and support. Jobs should NEVER fire someone for these! Not ever, particularly when they are major contributors to the stack upon the heaviness of depression. *IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY FOR ALL CORPORATIONS.* Depression MUST be acknowledged just as any other physical disability because it is in fact a disability. Some with this disease fight VERY hard, some do not. Some who do not don't because the world TRASHES THEM, SLAMS THEM. I'm disgusted, even into 2019 at how ignorant and unjust work places are as well as our legal system. I have REAL LIFE examples I so wish I did not know about first hand. LOVE TO NORMA.
I agreed with all you have said. It's so sad and injustice that you were and are so strong , but kept going - doing the right thing - being there for others, etc. You should ve had the opportunity to speak out and get help and to be understood.. So admirable despite all you went thru ,you are not whining- or complaining - just stating facts Terribly sad . you have held your head high and deserve to speak out and share this I went thru the same but Im sure not to the length you did . Losing the 3 people closest to you - I I can 't imagine...You commented 3 years ago - I DO hope you have found the happiness and peace you deserve .. I sounds as tho you could use a great deal more. Thank you very much. for sharing. Much love to you -
From what i surmise i think Marilyn struggled with depression at the very least. Which can make it hard to remember things and concentrate. Especially if youre nervous. I can see why she struggled with her lines. Especially being sick on top of it.
Jeff S. Yes she was orphaned and abused throughout her childhood. No sense of security in her life. Very deep seeded issues....She was a maverick despite all of life’s blows, but she could only take so much. Especially in an atmosphere like Hollywood. I can’t imagine!!
This was a tragic woman. Her childhood was unimaginable - nothing but insecurity at the most basic levels at all times and constant changes in "guardians". She really tried - especially with psychotherapy but that only jerked her around further. It's impossible to not feel sorry for her.
Liz Taylor was considered a serious actress at the time, she was well respected...Monroe was mistreated from the day she stepped into Hollywood, people took advantage of her naivety
Chiara Baldini Liz was way more confident. Marilyn was enveloped in her sadness probably unable to even verbally explain her case to anyone. She was always a bit of a loner.
OK - so I am a fan of Marilyn for her absolute talent that resonated so much in her films. Even in minor roles it was not just her physical self but she had that extra something. But now this narrative suggests she went for 'the best baseball player, the best author, the best president or best atttorney general. So in this narrative these BEST MEN were just pawns? They were all intelligent layered individuals - so they were not all puppets to Marilyn - rather she possibly wanted to be taken seriously as a person with more than sex to offer. I would think it would be hard for her to do that - just as it has been for so many great looking women to be recognised as having a personality beyond the exterior. I will never know her but have tried to piece it together and those who were her friends loved her. They recognised her vulnerabilities and not just hang off her beauty. This documentary portrays her as highly manipulative - she had her emotional/personality fragilities - but all this rather repulsive speculation is just that - repulsive. Who is alive to defend her? There is no balance and to be honest she was fabulous as an actress with great comedic timing - she was a beautiful woman with mental health issues. So we need to exploit the later and not bother to recognise the former?
Personally & Privately: I could have blown their brains out myself, butt, somebody else took good care of it themselves. (guess who?) These bloody bastards, that deliberately overdose Marilyn Monroe, duly deserved to die divinely decreed destructive deaths, due directly to their devilish deceptive dealings and dicey demonic doings dammit; whosoever, they may/might be?! ("II Dott. Greenson negozio"...corrupt criminal co-conspirator. predatory profiteer phony physician psychopath)
Society did not know how to handle a lot of things back then. She was SO abused! She was in burnout and they were drugging her through things, and she herself would not have appreciated the insidious effects of the "medications" SHE was to have been handled with respect. BEFORE they began shooting , she should have had serious health upgrades BEFORE shooting to be sure she was UP to it. But they slammed and pushed her without the respect she EARNED ten times over for TWENTY years and more. I will always feel she died from abuse and was too tired and weak to fight it all any longer. SUPERRATS
The way these “men” touch & treat her after the cuts shows you exactly how she was treated.. like an item not a human being & I know that feeling all too well.. you will eventually feel useless .. as Marilyn ended up feeling and the medication she had to take to deal with these pigs did not help 😥 RIP sweet angel 🙏🏽♥️
Marilyn was an icon and she knew, she is a star, a HUGE Star, but deep inside, she was like "you and me" very vulnerable and lonely woman, almost like a child. We can´t judge her, she wasn´t mature lady to work proberly, but also we have to think, she was a good actress and artist and weak at her state....let´s say; nobody´s perfect, like Jack Lemmon says on his last words on Some Like It Hot -film. Marilyn never dies as She is one of the shiniest star of this crazy crazy world.
Personally & Privately: I could have blown their brains out myself, butt, somebody else took good care of it themselves. (guess who?) These bloody bastards, that deliberately overdose Marilyn Monroe, duly deserved to die divinely decreed destructive deaths, due directly to their devilish deceptive dealings and dicey demonic doings dammit; whosoever, they may/might be?! ("II Dott. Greenson negozio"...corrupt criminal co-conspirator. predatory profiteer phony physician psychopath) Intentionally inflicted fright and fear by firing her while under duress and stress and powerfully potent psychotropic pharmaceutical prescription pills. Indubitably insuring her timely death and deliberate demise and due dopey drugs departure!!!
If only they knew she was dying inside.. poor Marilyn- I wish she got to live a full life, she’s a legend one of the most famous people in the whole entire world till this day
In my personal opinion, I did not know and still don't know much about who Marilyn Monroe was and what she was in the industry. But the other day me and my husband we were watching a documentary about elite and how the government hides facts from society and there was a point that Marilyn Monroe's name came up and how she was murdered. The motive to her murder was "she knew too much". So that was a way to stop her from talking.
Ive heard a lot about her from my parents and grandparents, that shes really gorgeous! Brilliant actress of her time, so started stalking, searching the net for photos and youtube for videos, reading about her life, yeah she was really beautiful, naive and innocent but despite traumatic experiences living different foster parents, sexual abuse, still continue to live life what she wanted, lived life to the fullest! I beg to disagree that her life was a mess. fierce and ambitious, only some people surrounds her good and bad.some loved her some were not. Whats missing was someone who will stand fo her wholeheartedly no matter what! Loved unconditionally, be there for guidance! To protect and keep her safe from any wolves! Thats life! She was a legend! Rest in Peace..🙏🏼❤️
Personally & Privately: I could have blown their brains out myself, butt, somebody else took good care of it themselves. (guess who?) These bloody bastards, that deliberately overdosed Marilyn Monroe, duly deserved to die divinely decreed destructive deaths, due directly to their devilish deceptive dealings and dicey demonic doings dammit; whosoever, they may/might be?!
Marilyn was so gorgeous in this Movie. Too bad that she was so sick most of the time. Marilyn had so many problems and nobody wanted to help her. They just wanted to give her a bunch of pills to make her have an addiction. Plus it made her easier to control.
If you ask me, Marilyn was irresponsible and deserved to be fired-yes, BUT it was Dean Martin that essentially pulled the plug on the whole thing. He could have agreed to work with another actress and chose not to. 104 people lost their jobs because of Dean Martin, not Marilyn Monroe. But I guess it was easier to blame her, huh?
Personally & Privately: I could have blown their brains out myself, butt, somebody else took good care of it themselves. (guess who?) These bloody bastards, that deliberately overdosed Marilyn Monroe, duly deserved to die divinely decreed destructive deaths, due directly to their devilish deceptive dealings and dicey demonic doings dammit; whosoever, they may/might be?!
@ If she had mental health issues she would have felt sick without the pills too. People assume a lot of things. Where is the proof she had an addiction? Her death? Too many strange things surrounding that too.
Its as if people are so Blind and now they cant see the truth about this Woman ... She was a fighter and all PRESSURES AND BACKWARDS ABUSIVE MEN WHOM SHE HAD ALL AROUND HER . I FEEL SURE MARILYN WAS A VICTIM OF THE PRICE OF FAME ...THE PRICE OF WHAT SHE DIDNT KNOW ... THE POWER OF THOSE AROUND HER TOOK HER LIGHT AND CAUSED HER TO BE REMOVED FROM LIFE .. I HAVE FELT THAT MARILYN WAS TAKEN BY THE POWERS THAT BE ... SHE WAS A PRECIOUS AND KIND WOMAN ..WHO WAS THE TARGET OF SOME VERY POWERFUL MEN .. WHO HAVE KARMIC ENDINGS JUST WATCH ...
Has anyone seen the picture of Marilyn Monroe before her surgeries and makeovers? She was on the cover of a Good Housekeeping magazine, a Brunette, and so different looking you wouldn't think she was the same woman. She looked like Tammy from the series. She's pictured as a farm girl with a Sheep or Goat and dressed in a puffed sleeved gingham dress.
Poor marilyn she was probably on uppers to getup, downers for sleep, diet pep pills for weight loss. She suffered from depression/anxiety maybe a personality disorder. Then she had her stupid coach telling her how to act, and it was never good enuff. Do it 100 takes. Director getting ticked, hes directing the pic. Then she had the kennedys using her. They didnt know a lot about addiction back then. She should have gone str8 to rehab.
The only person fired should have been Marilyns creepy doctor keeping her drugged up!!! What an arsehole telling her bosses he could control her!! Of course he didn't want her fired. She was his cash cow. He was to blame for her death providing her all those drugs yet not monitoring her health!
kazabushy true- let's do it slowly to look like an accident&then; psy off the doc- MAR. was smart;but,not that smart- she used people. but they used her EVEN more!
Heather Anderson.... Bullshit! She had miscarriages, and lots of them. Why should she become pregnant, only to get an abortion - 13 times? Get real! There were contraceptives available, even back then.
Heather Anderson , seriously?.. PLEASE explain to us as to how anyone could survive that many abortions, especially that long ago...Ha! That is the most outrageous remark ever.....
Aging for a women alone is hard and to age in Hollywood has to be the worse especially when beauty is what you depend on for your means of living!! Sadly, you mix drugs and lack of love and it's a lonely existence a ERI sense of worry for her I'm sure being that everyone uses you for that beauty and spits you out once your 30!! Sad,sad,sad, I hate aging and all women who puts another down for aging will get there's cause everyone ages!!
Yay. So true. I'm 35 and where did the last decade go?? Anyways , between being 5'1 and weight going between 127 and 134 due to.water weight from several.autoimmune diseases that cause weight gain because I eat like a bird and unfortunately since I love food,;I never have an appetite lately.. but I gain weight so bad around my cycle from PMDD and then I'm just swollen from Ra, CFS, and thyroid autoimmune disease. Oh and fibromyalgia. Anyways, women really get hit hard about aging and just about everything. It's mentally and emotionally exhausting.