Mariners TRADE For Jorge Polanco, Impacts The BIGGER Picture! Twins WIN With A Great Return. 

Getting Polanco and not having to trade any of our starting pieces for a proven bat is much bigger than it appears. That rotation staying in place for next year is huge. I'll be interested to see if Jerry is in the market for a 3rd baseman.

Mariners also threw in some money. It may be an “overpay” value wise for the mariners but they got the best player that can make an immediate impact and really needed someone at second

As an M's fan, I think it's probably close to an overpay but nowhere near as lopsided as Trade Values says. Polanco is likely the option at 2B for 2 years until Cole Young is big-league-ready. and Seattle has a history of developing bullpen arms. They also have acquired a few interesting arms this offseason that could replace Topa. It wasn't Woo, Miller, Brash, or Munoz so I'm ok with it. It makes the 2024 Big League roster better without giving up a big piece heading forward. Given the budget restraints the owners have placed upon the front office, they have to make more trades than signings. Would have loved him for a bit cheaper, but it should work out much better than the AJ Pollock, Tommy LaStella, and Kolten Wong moves from last offseason.

Polanco is a nice piece, but that’s a pretty heavy price. Pretty even in the end

I think this is a rare win win for both teams I’ve watched Jorge play damn near every game since he was called up almost a decade ago and he is one of the most underrated players in the show when healthy. He is also big time clutch he is a gamer

This is a smash for the Twins. The best thing about this is it creates an opening for Brooks Lee. He was the best collegiate hitter in the 2022 draft and before this trade…he was blocked. Love it.

Twins fan, Jorge’s defense is a lot better at 2nd than it is at SS or 3B. Great player

I don't see this as one side or the other "won", I see it as the M's got what they needed for the next two years until their up and coming infield prospects are ready, while the Twins have the higher potential to win down the road if one or two of the prospects really pan out. It's a win win, with higher future upside for the Twins, more immediate upside for the Mariners.

It was a great win-win trade. Love this for both sides. Mariners get a hell of a switch hitter, and MN shores up pitching while getting some prospects, and knowing the future of 2B is in Triple A right now with Brooks Lee. Guy is a stud and will likely move up later this year with Julien taking 2B in the meantime (then moving to 1B/DH).

The twins payroll before this trade was 119 million, now it's 115 million, the twins have slashed 39 million from 2023 payroll. oh please don't worry, ownership is going to cut the payroll even further.

As an M’s fan I think they overpaid a bit but they needed an impact bat in the infield, rolling out Rojas and Urias as your everyday starters just wasn’t going to cut it. The Twins wanted Miller or Woo and the M’s didn’t want to part with either so they had to overpay to get the trade accomplished. I personally like the trade though, it was worth overpaying to get the bat we sorely needed and we didn’t have to subtract from our starting rotation to do so. Losing Topa sucks, especially when we haven’t found an adequate replacement for Sewald. I’d expect them to bring in an arm or two to bolster the bullpen before the season starts. Maybe the guys we got from the Braves for Kelenic fill those roles. Writing out the lineup, when you have guys like Haniger, France, Raley that could all be batting bottom 3rd of the lineup you like how it looks on paper! Big if on whether they all can stay healthy however but if they can, you gotta like our chances with 5 stud SPs!

Polanco's going to be our #3 bat. It may have been an overpay, but the Mariners desperately needed his offense. The Twins seem to have gotten pieces that fill their needs extremely well too. Solid chance of a win-win, just as long as Polanco maintains health and doesn't become the next offseason 2B acquisition to implode on arrival.

I like this trade so much for both teams. The M's finally round out the lineup with a bonafide bat and keep all of their top 5 in tact. All that talk about "we're fine if we decide to be done" was all posturing. They had to make a move. Meanwhile the Twins get a decent starter, a stud mid-to-high leverage reliever and some really solid additions to their farm system. For me, the Twins needed and got more, so that may give them the 51-49 edge. But the M's needed less and held onto the Miller/Woo tandem, so not only is everything in tact in the rotation, but as you mentioned they could still pull the trigger and go absolutely all in by swinging for Cease, if that's really on the table. If that happens (I don't expect it to happen but because it's trader Jerry wouldn't be surprised either) just by keeping the option on the table it would make the M's a much bigger winner in this trade than it appears at first blush. To add Polanco to Haniger, Urias, Raley, Garver and Zevala is already crazy. Adding Cease to the rotation on top of it would be WILD.

Only 2 hitters with the potential to hit 30 hrs? Julio, Cal, Mitch one and Mitch two all have the potential to hit 30 bombs, granted the latter two have to stay healthy. Throw in JP, Urias and Raley and you have three others with 15-25 hr potential. Plenty of pop now with the Polanco addition. Lots of injury concerns however, hopefully they all can make it through.

Ouch. Polanco gave the Twins so much. He was a Twins lifer.

Don't forget. We have Perry Hill. I bet he will sure up his glove a bit.

Julio Rodriguez, Cal Raleigh, Mitch Garver and Mitch Haniger have posted 30-homer seasons (Luis Urias, Ty France, Luke Raley and J.P. Crawford have seasons of 23, 20, 19 and 19 homers, respectively). Jorge Polanco will be in decent power company.

Gonzalez trailed off at the end of last season, pipeline is higher on him than most

Minor point, Dieclafani was an earlier trade not a signing.

From a Twins Fan perspective. I love Polanco; talented, team player, has really, really, really good at-bats. I wish him the best of health and a great season for the Mariners. I agree DeSclafani has a #5 spot to lose; I suspect Varland will prefer the #6 spot (aka #1 in St Paul to start the year the way Ober did last year). The team may as well pending other moves; they'd have no depth if something went wrong (and when doesn't it go wrong). This looks like a solid win-win, though fate (and injuries/performances) can make monkeys of us all.

Three players that do not matter much. BP is the one thing the M’s are consistently good with. DeSclafani wasn’t going to provide much he was the 7th starter at best. Gonzalez is the piece here. He is probably over ranked given how much he struggled last year. But a prospect and filler for Minnesota and M’s get a solid bat but one that is aging not great on D and been hurt. Think it is a balanced trade.

What you failed to mention, is that the M’s added a much needed bat, while relatively remaining at the same position that they were in pre-trade (financially), allowing them to continue to add, and/or retain their ability to add more significant pieces at the trade deadline.

Jim, as an Ms fan, I gotta say....this is a win for us. Didn't have to give up Miller, Woo or Hancock, and got rid of another dreaded platoon at 2B. What's the saying? If you have two 2B, that means you have no 2B. We now have one 2B. Still worried about 3B and the health of our Mitches....

This is a good trade for Seattle adding a bat and a all star infielder Seattle looks a lot better then before go mariners

Minnesota had a lot of holes to fill. This trade was very good for them.

Seattle is not done, they have 19M still left to spend. They can trade for a high leverage arm or sign a few mid lev guys. We aren't going into the trade deadline with anything more than $3M sitting

Shannon Drayer, a journalist for Seattle 710AM dismisses the Cease rumor. Why would the M’s who is looking to upgrade offensively would expend the same resources on Cease? Shannon stated that the M’s front office realized early on that young pitching is their strength. Jim Riley’s argument was that the M’s would trade for Cease, then turn around a trade (Miller or Woo) to get a bat. Getting Cease now serves no purpose. The M’s filled out their lineup and the M’s plan A to keep the rotation intact is accomplished.

Seattle isn't done yet. Need to add a bullpen arm. Disco had no real place on their squad other than insurance for Bryan Woo's lack of Stamina but they have Emerson Hancock in theory for that. He was always going to be odd man out in Seattle since he was the #6 or #7 starter. Topa is a big loss. Going from 3 high leverage arms to 2 is pretty concerning. Gabby Gonzales sucks to lose and Bowen was one of the few pitchers left in the system with promise. Polanco is exciting and definitely fills a big need. Seattle is done adding Bats unless Ty France is part of a deal and move Raley to 1st. Twins look like they won the trade tho. Getting Topa, Gonzales and Bowen for Polanco and taking DeSclafani is definitely a + for them since they were always going to deal Polanco to someone.

Kirby was never, ever, going to be traded. He is 100% untouchable right now. Even Gilbert probably would’ve taken a Cease-level package due to the years of control. The only ones likely to be traded (at least before) were Miller and Woo.

I don’t know if the Mariners won the trade, but I like it. I think Palanco bats second

Descafanti came to the mariners in the haniger trade. And now with the mariners adding gregory santos while keeping the starters intact this doest seem like that much of an overpay

We still have an open roster spot so I’d assume we still do something, either it’s a reliever or a bat. But something else is gonna be done

The trade free up some roster spots for Seattle so with them spots open they can tweak things sure tye Twins filled holes to or patched them .

...I'm a lifelong Twins fan and longtime Polanco booster as well, but if you think this guy's ever going to hit 30 homers again...

Think the lineup is pretty set now unless they trade an existing bat. I could see them signing a bullpen piece.

I still think the Ms need 1 proven bat. I do think the Twins got over on us by a little bit. But the Ms neve had plans to keep Desclafani, him being added is a $ dump and in order for the twins to take that contract on they probably asked for Topa. That's just my thoughts. As an Ms fan, still not happy with this off season. Kerry is doing the best he can with absolutely no $ to back him and uts frustrated the hell out of us as fans. Still hoping that we can possibly trade for M.Kepler or B.Donovan. that would solidify our lineup tremendously. Love the videos, keep them coming.

Julio, Jorge, Cal, Mitch, Mitch, Luke, JP, Urias, ?

Baseball Trade Values is a joke lol. Great trade for both teams 🤝

Thoughts the Mariners traded for Anthony. Not signed him this of season

Sometimes, an overpay is worth it if you get crucial pieces for excess pieces. As a Cardinal fan, I am willing to overpay for a #2 starter because I have multiple position players that need to play somewhere and maybe what we need for post season.

Twins win in the end i think but this a good trade for ms short term snell still available and possible

Both teams won this trade. As an M's fan, it really doesn't matter if we overpaid. Our team is better with this trade.

Sending Gonzalez hurts, otherwise this is a great trade for the M's, who needed to get rid of Desclifani and have been connected to Polanco for some weeks. M's are in a good position now, but they most likely are not done adding. Castillo will go next, but I am very skeptical about a Cease deal, unless it's a 3-way deal and the M's are ridding themselves of Castillo's salary but will still have an ace in Cease.

M’s need to drop France in a trade with Urias, put Raley at 1st and let Canzone cook in LF.

The only value in this trade going to the twins is justin topa. That said, thats another potential closer the ms just dealt out, i hope Munoz doesnt crumble under the pressure like he did last yea.

They don't need Cease, I better sign Matt Chapman

Go Twins ⚾️🤙

I’d rather have Varland in the rotation that DeScalfani tbh but overall I’d rather have Varland in the pen than the rotation

You knew Polanco was going to get traded. With Julien, Correa, and Royce Lewis, there was no spot for him on the Twins infield.

Gonzales is not the prospect everyone thinks he is...look at his production at high A. .216 average, he is more of a lottery pick.

Not likely, but Snell could still sign and we trade one miller/woo for a guy like Arozarena

I think the M's gave up a bit too much for Polanco, and this is coming from an Astros fan. To give up two of your top 10s should have sealed the deal, but there might be something on the back burner that we aren't hearing about yet.

Hello jim

If youre the twins, how do you NOT add to jorge and get a young pitcher from that staff. I just dont get it

Gonzalez is far from a sure thing, Desclafani wasn’t needed, and losing Topa sucks but we can go get more Bp guys if needed if our current group isn’t working after a month or two. Darren Bowen is next to nothing in the big scheme of things for the mariners.

Damn , was really hoping Jays would get this guy. Good get Mariners

im really surprised the mariners didnt get atleast some low end proscpect back from the twins mariners gave up too much gabby topa and desclai would of been enough why add bowen?

Im shocked!!!! that Twins didnt want Logan or Kirby in the deal with that said I think Sea wins this trade even if Polanco turns out to be a bust.

Seeing more and more teams make solid moves makes me think my Jays are folding on purpose. I smell a rebuild coming. They let a lot of guys walk and only 2 signings are on short manageable deals. Even if they get Soler I think it's a 1... 2 year deal tops so they can move him if necessary. It feels to me they want a clean payroll in 2026 to start over. I hope I'm wrong.

If Dipoto wants to overpay let him empty the farm. I think the Ms overpaid but they had to. I kind o f understand the Suarez trade but why Kelenec? Are they punishing him for tħe way 23 went down? As a Braves fan, thanks Ms!

Polanco I's very underrated. Baseball trade value has this Wrong they gave up just guys to get an above average player. If you can Add solid switch hitters you do it

It's an overpay for Polanco, but one that the Mariners can afford.

I think Snell is gunna land in the Yankees laps

I dont like that gonzales in this but with that being said they still are loaded with of bats in the minors. So if this dude actually helps im okay with it.

Seattle over paid, but it fills a need. They have more prospects.

It's unlikely, but I would say signing Snell is still a possibility. They could sign Snell then move Woo or Miller to the bullpen to upgrade the bullpen (with Topa now gone). But like I said, it is unlikely but is still an option if Seattle is still interested in Snell.

O's should now offer Seattle: Mountcastle Westberg Cowser Irving and Povich for Gilbert and 1- low end Prospect. Seattle gets 3 hitters they need and O's get their starter. Win Win. Irving is a gift!

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Over Pay Yes roster build wild card game 2024

It's good to know that GMs don't use baseball trade values. It's a horrible tool..

Using baseball trade values immediately discredits you. Stop using it. According to baseball trade values ty adcock can get you Goldschmidt and arenado..

Diso is hurt way to often he's washed

Meh

We gave 4 players and all we got was JP. Twins ripped us off big time.

Twins win this trade badly

Brant brown will elevate this offense to another level I guarantee this. I'm so excited I'm ready to get this fucking spring training started now.

This just isn’t an overpay I’m sorry.