what kaneda uses is the kujin style; a fictional style of "classical japanese martial arts". it is unusual in the context of a hand-to-hand tournament because it is actually described as a form of swordsmanship, that assumes both fighters are armored. so real traditional shit. a key element of the style is that you take the opponent to the ground, and then kill him with your weapon. this shows especially strong in this match particularly, where kaneda tries to drop gaolang/gaolan/kaolan/whatever floats your boat with a sweep and a shoulder throw. this is the intent of the style, and trying to take on a four time heavyweight boxer with something so limited in unarmed potential is framed as monumentally ridiculous. but as seen in his match with himuro, his foresight is the big equalizer, and with it he can compete against more proficient fighters even without accounting for his sickly body. ...sorta. gaolang was a bit too much for him clearly lmao the manga first describes the kujin style during this fight and i wish the anime had done the same. we see him name the kujin style in his techniques but we are never actually told what that is. i guess they have a production schedule to keep though
Amazing answer! Thank you so much for taking the time to go through that! I always loved the idea of brains vs braun and the idea that pure skill can overcome size and strength. But unfortunately it gets to a point where the sheer physicality becomes too much to ignore. Maybe if he'd gotten to fight someone other than Gaolan we'd have gotten to see him go a bit further
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 That’s why humans are adapted for tool use. Physical combat is great for sport. However when it comes to self defence, the equalizer will always be armaments. Size doesn’t matter when bullets or blades are in the mix. That said; I love physical combat sports, games and media!
true forsight indeed makes a huge ass difference in a fight my eyesight and hearing arent the best yet im still able to outfight people who are either bigger and stronger or faster then me through the most simple dodges, parries, blocks to waste the least energy i can and even taking hits on purpose to make them think im hurting but in reality im simply redirecting and dispersing the force so it does virtually nothing unless its a damn good haymaker but on the upside it does sometimes work against sucker punches too kengan did forsight perfectly in my eyes as someone just like him who uses whatever move thats needed to win
@@BurridgeMartialArts604 Kaneda wasn't able to do as well early in the match because Gaolong was holding back. Kaneda had watched some of his matches, so he was expecting certain things. Since Gaolong didn't want to hurt him, the timing was off. He's gives his little speech to make Gaolong go all out. All that said, like you said, fighting is still about physicality at the end of the day. Even if you know exactly what's coming, it doesn't do you any good if your body just can't move fast enough to do anything about it.
You gotta admit that Kaneda really did bits in this and in the last rush he dodged so many attacks, but his problem was that he got too much damage in too quickly, so he couldn't really adapt to Gaolang's style fast enough to overcome him.
Holy hell. I've never seen any animation where people's moves were so cleanly, technically countered or anticipated. This show should pay you. At this point I consider your commentary part of the experience.
Kaneda won his spot at the tournament defeating Himuro Ryo in a great, but short fight, should take a look also. It is very dissapointing how Netflix/LARX doesn´t even give a tiny light of hope about the continuity of the anime, there are so many more incredible matches like Julius vs Wakatsuki, Saw Paing vs Mikazuchi, Ohma vs Cosmo, Gaolang vs Agito etc.
Later on in the series it’s revealed Gaolang Wongsawats true style is in fact muay thai and he practiced boxing on the side. (Gaolang has a mentality that this is just a show and not a true place for warriors to fight at this point and doesn’t have a reason to use his muay thai)
It was a good show, being able to read patterns is always a good idea and also having a strong body will give great advantage. When Max reacts to Forbidden Kingdom to see Jacki Chan vs Jet Li, he will love it
Kaneda is also portrayed as have a style simply impractical for a tournament where you don't have much time to recover. Hope we get 3rd season, Gaolang vs Kanoh where Gaolang mixes boxing and muay thai is dope
true he was at a handicap from the start with his style plus his body it would be like if IP man with cancer joined in sure he's insanely good but what can you do when your body wont respond to your brain anymore
An awesome thing I noticed, is that the very strongest fighter in this whole tournament, Fang, uses the same ability as Kaneda (With the slight variation that once he analyses his opponent he doesn't just counter him perfectly, but also create a fresh new fighting style on top of that)
Gaolang is my favorite character lol I love that he goes "all out" in terms of his situation. With Kaneda, he considered the fight like a game so he went "all out" with the intention of just winning the game (all he needs is his boxing to do so). Against Agito, that fight is life or death, so he really goes for a kill, using his godly Muay Thai too.
from what I can tell, philly shell and hitman are the same stance, its just philly shell refers to the defense (shoulder rolls) whereas hitman refers to the offence (flickers).
@@dealtanace most boxing stances look similar but have these little things that make them different Hitman is more straight-forward, good for tall people, they just sway back to dodge and use left hand for maintaining constant pressure at range, and right hand for parry/block Philly is more side-ways, more compact in the arms, good for small people, they curl in or roll to the sides to dodge, use left hand to block or help with roll, and right hand awaits for openings in opponent guard and hit there To make a comparison hitman is like a medieval duelist with long sword and small shield, Philly is like Roman infantry with big shield and short sword Sorry if I wrote something wrong, I barely use english nowadays
Not the first person to say this! It does look a lot like the flicker jab now that you guys have mentioned it! I'd not watched any Thomas Hearns stuff before but went on a RU-vid binge of some of his fights after this! That lead hand is amazing
It's amazing that he was not only an olympic gold medal boxer but also such a Muay Thai legend as well. Could well have been based on him, or even Samart Payakaroon as he was a notable boxer too
All things equal and the bigger guy will win? Well, maybe if the bigger guy ALSO has the same speed. You did say “all things equal”, but if that includes strength, then why on earth would being bigger mean you would win? If anything, you’re easier to hit. I’m 6 feet 225 pounds, and someone 5’ 7” and 150 pounds won’t have the same strength as me. But if he did, he would definitely beat me. Simultaneously, he could also have enough speed and/or endurance to overcome my strength. We have seen smaller guys in MMA beat the ripped and jacked guys quite often. I don’t think anyone thinks Kimberly Slice RIP could have ever beaten Diego Sanchez, for example. Yes, different fight styles and whatnot, but Sanchez also would outmaneuver, outpace, and outlast slice any day of the week.
Definitely gonna have to check the show out at some point. There is a scene from spl 2 with Max Zhang taking on Tony jaa and Wu Jing you should check it out i was pretty impressed with how fast Max Zhang was
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Kaneda uses a style of classical Japanese Jujutsu called Kujin-ryu, which I'm pretty sure is meant to be a fictionalized version of the real-life form of classical Japanese Jujutsu called Kyushin-ryu
as a bigger dude you do see other people having that quickness and skill but big dudes can also take more of a beating where as if the big guy lands a couple really good hits its done, the guy reyner in this anime shows it with the ballerina dude, he used his strongest kick on his neck and it didnt faze him
Found this guy today, realised he has og Harry Porter books that I 100% destroyed as I kid Translation: hmm a man of taste, I’ll see where this takes me
I like kaneda like him I sorta have a weaker body so seeing him make it that far was inspiring to me the weaklings do after all dream of becoming the strongest
You should react to some of the fights from a bit of a less known film called Bunraku, some awesome fights there, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5ajFNXLHMGc.html this is one between the two main characters that is really cool.
The gaoland stance and arm placement is not rlly the philly shell but it’s tommy hearns hitman stance it relys on there flicker jab and it’s not a counter puncher style
Yeah I realised after watching it again and someone else saying that it was more like Thomas Hearns! In the moment I was thinking Philly shell. Went and watched some Thomas Hearns after this and ended up watching his fights for a couple hours
Yeah just read in someone elses comment that I was apparently wrong haha he just didn't think it was worth using! I did think it was weird that the Thai God Of War didn't use Muay Thai, also makes the Gaolan/Saw Paing rivalry so much cooler to me! Can't wait to see him cut loose with some elbows and knees!
Gaolan is my favorite character, can't imagine a boxer defeated a guy with Lethwei fighting style. Also I like the guy with JKD but he was cocky and defeated by Kaneda and got a broken arms.
Nice mention that he only doesn't do muay Thai in this fight. it it revealed that he actually did muay Thai before boxing and combines the two for the pinnacle of striking arts
