Marvel's Anthem (The Jimquisition) 

This says a godamn lot

best comment 🤣🤣🤣

He was right. I knew it would be shit the moment it was announced. That microtransactions would be in it, and anytime they say "were planing to release content over a period" is corp speak for "we didnt want to include it in the initial price of the game, we want to hold it back and charge you extra for it later". Yeah fuck off.

@@lyianx This one is wise and also decoded the secret corporate speak to understand wat it truly means. Congrats ur evolution shall benefit u greatly in the corporate future run by coporate robots that are literally covered in ads for other corporations like sports cars are.

They watered down the game so it could appeal to everyone, but in the end it was just water. It's not that easy to sell water to people when you have all these indie devs making juice for half the price.

And that game gave up after the first wave of DLC.

Damn thats cold but true💯💯

And I still have faith for a Mahvel 4 with a better roster.

Plus, it had the privilege of having Venom in it. Granted, it was Venom with laryngitis, but it was still Venom.

@@Gemidori A simple voice changer could have solved that problem.

Customers!!

@The Archangel or In Dice case. Player produces valid criticism. Dice: AYE, PUT THAT THING INTO THE HATERS BIN.

Corporations: "You WILL like this thing. Fact." Customers: "..." ~Customers have left the chat~

@@MajorT0m - I think "consumers" has more impact; it implies that not even those who buy EVERYTHING would touch this crap. Of course customers wouldn't touch this, we're suspicious, we do research, we wait for reviews, but consumers? The ones that are only interested in the shiny and new? Now not even they have stuck around for this lit turd on the doorstep of the gaming world. That says a lot imo

@@Red_Beard2798 You didn't see the Jim Sterling video on not calling customers, consumers?

To paraphrase one of the most iconic supervillains to debut in the 21st century, "If everything is a collector's edition, nothing is."

@@tjenadonn6158 Syndrome?

Oh ubisoft

And their iconic baseball caps.

Or movies declared a classic before they've even hit the cinemas.

suddenly beloved character epic Joelerino

Honestly, sometimes characters CAN become iconic after just one game if they're good enough. I'd say Sans is pretty iconic despite being in one game--though Toby Fox didn't decide that, we did

We never asked for this.

More like locked it in a closet

We never asked for this. Made worse was that Square-Enix sabotaged Deus Ex Mankind Divided by having it be bait for a sequel. And when it didn't do well, it gave them the go ahead to shelve it for Avengers. Hell, Square-Enix has many flops under their belt. The Quiet Man and Left Alive. This game will be yet antoher flop.

@@MegamanNG Mankind Divided is easily a 30 hour game, without resorting to boring grinding to artificially pad its length like so many open world games do. Plus there is DLC to add to this. The plot was made with a sequel in mind, but it wasn’t literally cut in half, there’s enough content to warrant a full game. People just use this to explain away the low demand for the franchise.

@@johnm91326 Which is better: A game where you're entertained for 10 hours or a game where you're entertained for 2 hours and bored for 28?

But what if we declare the protagonist has an "iconic" baseball cap?

You have good ears

I usually hear "We're going to drop feed content as microtransactions that consist of content that would have been part of a complete game a decade ago"

Judging by the lack of players, they can’t even do that. This game is just existing at the moment. I’ll give it one more year before Disney or Square call it quits and shut this shit down. Better hope that clone factory is up to snuff.

To me it sounds more like "We really hope you'll keep paying for this crap for years to come!"

retroxify lol so true, you can bet that’s exactly what they are thinking and how it looked on paper to, it’s not playing out that way though and never does, they will continue to learn the hard way, which is at least good for entertainment in one way.

You know the people who made the movies have nothing to do with this crap.

I mean, the only way this could have been interesting was if they used characters other than the same overused bunch. One punches, one flies and shoot beams and another has a shield. You don't have much to work with there gameplay wise. Would have been way cooler if they used more obscure marvel characters.

Games based on movies are eternally cursed.

There have been plenty of successful Marvel games. Square Enix must be a special kind of stupid in order to screw up this bad

yeah....It remind me of the ET game.

Reminds me of the onion video "Captain Actual America: Overweight, depressed and hopelessly in debt".

I'm not saying it isn't really damn weird but it doesn't make me think "oh that's version Captain America" It makes me think "oh that's Captain Canada"

@@devastatheseeker9967 That's Captain Canuck dummy!

As I said before, they turned Captain America into Captain (Corporate) America.

@Heavy Metal Collector Honestly I only remember captain canada as a side gag for the super hero squad show where captain america made wolverine become captain canada. Shit show but they do have neat ideas from time to time.

Devs: Oh btw, here are some lootboxes.

@@Theo_Caro More like managers.

said like the fat dude from Oliver Twist: MORE!?!?

I can feel Sad Roger's pain, see the existential agony in his eyes. He wants to know why he was created like this. "Why, God?", asks Sad Roger as he gazes disdainfully upon his own reflection, "Why have you done this to me?"

Sad roger is my spirit animal

You're saying it as if these characters haven't been corporate tools (literally) for decades.

Captain Cap'italism

Instead of having skin that people would want in game already that they can earn and no microtransactions because it a paid game even if it is free to play it should be cosmetic only

Sataire at its finest

@Darth Bane Funnily enough, I suspect he would actually just adopt the Nomad identity over what the real world US has become. Possibly after some no doubt thrilling and cathartic curb stomping of the psuedo nazi fucks who run the pseudo nazi concentration camps within our own borders. The movie writes itself but Disney doesn't want to make bank.

See- if you ask me, the very mentality that removes the very word "game" from a fuckin' videogame means it's already done for. A game CAN be a ""live service"" like animal crossing, or MMOs like warcraft that have been going for 16 goddamn years, sure. But if that's your only goal? That's like making a movie where the plot is "blockbuster". That's a goal for success, not a plot. You have nothing. You'll get nothing.

@@Gamerkat10 If you don't mind, Imma steal your comment. Because those words are gold. Well spoken, my friend.

Jim likely won't speak much of AC again. He was turned off by the tools breaking and the crafting lol

@@Gamerkat10 very well said.

Thank u both, and go ahead!

@Jardmang look at Age of Empires 2. It's an old ass game but it still has so many loyal fans.

Jardmang yes. Yes this! This guy! Honestly it enrages me seeing this happen time and time again! First couple times I tried to ignore it, but then it started happening again and again and again! Soon some of my favorite series were getting hit! Halo, gears, Star Wars, etc and etc. pretty soon there won’t be a single creative juice for these money hungry buggers to squeeze out of the creators and developers and then.... we’ll then will be a sad day I’ll tell you that.

Hmm things that don't work in the triple A industry still get the attention and millions of followers anyway-so logic be damned like just about everything else. The fact none of y'all are playing Huntdown shows that the concerns still rest on the powers that be rather than indie brilliance that should be played-but probably won't be because you don't pay attention to anything that isn't in front of your face.

The secret of any long lasting game franchise: Treat your players as actual human beings, and not just as a walking semi conscious wallet. They can try to put shit on a plate before the players, but they are not entirely stupid. They'll realize that it's just shit, and they'll not buy it. Except for EA Sports players. They keep eating it up, even if it's getting worse every year.

@@jdbruiser here's the guy that points out his favourite indie game and blames everyone for not playing it lol

Because those games don't put a lot of focus on microtransactions and such. Among Us is only recently announced to get in-game currency, but even then it wouldn't be integral to the game itself - and its core concept. They wouldn't have you spend 4 dollars to immediately reveal imposters. In fact, that harkens back to shit like Club Penguin. It's just an online game that has no goal aside from just giving players some fun. You don't need in-game purchases or promotions to make a fun game.

say'th so the all powerful streamers and youtubers

@@Gemidori I'm a hardliner when it comes to ingame purchases and I'm actually okay with Among Us adding them, because the purchase price of the game is absurdly low for the amount of entertainment it provides.

It IS funny how Fall Guys is doing VERY well for itself. A game that NO AAA Publisher would have thought would sell great. That their games are just soooooo superior. Right up until Fall Guys started laughing their way into a bank to deposit their massive profits The issue with Among us is....it's a pre-2020 game. They weren't making much money originally...it took a LONG time for them to start making SERIOUS money. Heck one could argue that Covid is responsible for making it a huge success, with people starving for personal contact and being locked in their homes. In addition to all ther Streamers of course.

I played Among Us with friends for the first time this weekend and it's the most fun I've had in a video game in ages. I think the game needs some updates to make playing with randoms more fun (and it sounds like they're working on that), but I'd happily buy a new map. Couldn't care less about cosmetics, but given that I spent £3 on the game (and free on mobile), I don't really have much problem with cosmetics being added in a limited way. I just hope they do it in a way that allows them to make money and support the business without it consuming the whole game (as Jim would say, making money, just not all of the money).

In all fairness, intelligence and attention span aren't the same thing...

They have excellent long term memory, but they lose focus on things often

even if magpies have the shortest attention span of any animal on earth. it'd still be insulting to magpies because the game's industry is just that pathetic

attention span of a chicken is more accurate. And I can say that because I actually tried working with chickens before. Keyword: tried.

Hey now, a short attention span means that by the time the microtransactions come out the magpie has already moved on to something else.

After the 2007 activision joke of a conference no-one wants to risk getting that embarrassed so everyone fills the front rows at E3 with the publishers own staff. If it sounds like only half the crowd is enthusiastic about something its the guys whose living depends on it succeeding.

It's like constantly watching them reload one bullet at a time so they can shoot alternate feet.

It’s amazing that executives and other high level professionals expect random gamers to have a longer attention span than them. And the truth is, we do, but not when we’re handed random bullshit and told to figure out ourselves how to make it fun

@@dellalynlee1923 at least not when we're told that it's random bullshit and we need to find the fun (thanks, Sea of Thieves...) We have no problem finding the intricacies and fun in something which is designed to be explored - Kerbal, Minecraft, Terraria, SDV... Maybe we're just (justifiably) cycnical about the arseholes that try to take our money 'cause they think we're all stupid/

I understood that reference.

It may well be the only real entertainment we can get from it, at this point.

@Carl Ward As a singleplayer that is exactly why I'm not playing this garbage. Imagine being forced to play with brainless 14 year olds when you are already in your 30s.

Can't die if it was never alive in the first place. Live services become dead services. Unliving programs never die.

Except more than half of all profits from videogames come from phone game microtransactions.

Underrated comment.

@The Archangel You think anyone's scared? Really? You pathetic wankers pretend that your opponents always feel whatever emotion is most convenient for your ad-hom at the time. And if I've learened anything from these skirmishes online, it's always projection.

They should call it "dead service", eyyyyyyy.... I want those upvotes.

Might be a live service, but it's not an alive service.

In a market of videly differing audiences and artistic preferences the companies are trying to fight over to get the higest ongoing playerbase. On paper already it sounds like it's not possible to have more than a handful alive services at once.

"Play our game NOW! It's incredibly boring but we swear, it's gonna get better, just keep playing our shit game"

This perfectly describes how I felt seeing this game.

Marvel and their ambitious crossovers

Noice XD

Any proper dead service game deserves to have fallout in the title.

Beautiful.

I'm also pretty sure Disney killed Marvel Heroes so they could make sure this garbage game was the only Marvel licensed "live service".

I'd argue Deus Ex wouldn't of been that big of a success as seen with the dissapointment that is known as Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. But besides that I would've rather wee them make a full fledee late-consle gem deus ex that probably would've been remastered for the next gen then avengers. Square Enix, along with Disney wanted to print money.

@@Awesomebaconman123 I don't wanna be "that guy", but the phrase "would not of" really doesn't make sense, it's "would not have"

@@bravo075 look man, I don't want to be that guy...but "I don't wanna" doesn't make any sense. It's "I don't want to"

@The Archangel Idk, I'd say Square Enix has most of the blame for the way this was handled. As publishers, they did a really pisspoor job at marketing the game until it was right next to launch. The fact that the game is so unpolished, unfinished and downright full of glitches really gives the idea that this was some really rushed product. Much like EA and their scum practices over Anthem, the game reeks of: Square Enix: "Hey, how about you put some monetized stuff in there?" Crystal Dynamics: "Well we can maybe have skins as possible to purchase." Square Enix: "Good. And focus on the loot so the grind is so huge, they'll have to give into buying the skins." Crystal Dynamics: "Ok... but what about the campaign? It's not done yet." Square Enix: "Campaign? Oh yea, yea, forgot that was a thing. Pff, I don't care, that doesn't give me money." Crystal Dynamics: "Won't people get upset because of that?" Square Enix: "Oh just say it will be updated, they'll buy it. Else... they'll blame you, not me." Crystal Dynamics: "What?!" Square Enix: "Now if you'll excuse me, I have another Final Fantasy money to get." PS.: Not saying that Crystal Dynamics didn't commit mistakes, but they didn't make this bed alone.

I was thinking exactly this when they said that.

To make matters worse, aspire isn't even a transitive verb.

The answer is "yes." Also, "we're listening", but not to industry trends or the mistakes made by others who came before, or anything besides *ka-CHING*

What aspirations can you possibly have if you're working for Disney's predatory multimedia takeover?

It's E3. The audience is primarily industry wonks to begin with; the fire safety drill would probably get an equally enthusiastic reception.

@@markwatson8714 dude if they simply said clap they audience would clap.

The industry has been a joke for a while now it has its ups and downs but I do feel it is slowly getting more stale with time. Nobody with big money wants to take a risk and make a unique game. They just wanna wait till an indie gets hot the try to copy there idea and put it into there own game.

To quote Jerma985: Thats like a dentist saying to you “Don’t worry, I promise to not use this root canal drill on your eyes.”

I called the police on you

@@ARiter don't worry about it will ya. Cap Verizon doesn't stand a chance against Data Cap

“Hello, bad joke police?”

Tee Hee Hee

Yahtzee!

Hohohoho Christmas came early.

Nyeh heh heh!

The eminently quotable Yahtzee is ever relevant.

It's pathetic, isn't it?

It was right after the whole Battlefront 2 drama thing, so literally the only reason they got an applause for that is because "hey, at least we don't promote our shit as surprise mechanics, amirite?" Though, to be fair, yes, the bar is pretty damn low these days.

Not only that but if you you re critical of the video game industry you re an "entitled jerk". That's how submissive video game consumers are these days.

@@Deus7447 "Publishers and devs don't owe you" some would claim. As if we owe every fucking AAA jackass our hard earned money.

YES

They'd be mostly right if this were 2012 or 2013.

Gotta give credit to DC, since Arkham Asylum they nails the game field. Injustice is soo much more than Marvel vs Capcom and now with Gotham Knight and Suicide Squad, hopefully, they're gonna score high if everything goes well

Which is nuts as it's a new market, Marvel themselves don't think that that's why the were going under before Iron-Man and they focus so much on creating content which'll excite their own fandom bringing in the wider audience with that core. Content mind you being the number one thing lacking in this game, you'd think they'd try to understand the folks they're trying to sell to. DC nails games yeah, wish they made more, I love the Insomniac Spiderman games same as an Arkham series game but that's about it.

And the glasses! Fab!

I don’t feel so interested Mr. Stark. * Walks Away *

Those fools realized that they just wasted a lot of money on a useless shit

They should consider this.... mercy

It's a balanced disinterest, like all things should be

Their interest was blipped out of existence the instant they started playing

For Xbox

Can we get a master's of the universe figure for sad Rodger?

That is a very appropriately disgusting acronym, I like it

Happened with me quite often, so yeah...can relate.

While Fall Guys is a great game, I have some irks with its GaaS mechanics that really hold me back from being invested. Like the limited time shop rotation with arbitrary rarities for the items. And while I like not having to pay a separate fee for a season/battle pass, the time limit to unlock everything is annoying.

Also there’s only so much time to dedicate to GaaS and they’re too many of them. For every successful live service game there’s 10 that fail. Meanwhile there’s Marvel’s Spider-Man raking in the dough and swing almost 20 million copies on a single console and it’s not even a GaaS!

It's very satisfying from the outside, yet still outraging.

Companies were actually bitter as fuck about Warframe for years. So what happened was DE tried to shop the idea around to some publishers, but since this was 2008 and they weren't CoD they got laughed out of every meeting. "Sci-fi doesn't sell" or some shit. Then they went indie, and they actually survived when they launched in 2012. Oh well, flash in the pan, right? Then Bungie decided they wanted to keep doing sci-fi. Oh all eyes are on Bungie then, right? Bungie knows where it's at. All in. And Bungie releases Destiny... and Destiny gets its _shit pushed in_ by Warframe. Double the players despite less than a tenth of the marketing. And Activision is fucking _pissed_ by this. They do everything they can to take Warframe down. Lean on Sony and Microsoft, force Warframe to have its patches sit in the cert process for an entire month (I'm not kidding, Sony And Microsoft used to do that to some developers). Spread the word that Warframe's China release is defunct on PS4, try that smear campaign. But it doesn't work, Destiny still gets beaten by Warframe. The Triple-A industry decides it would rather die than admit defeat over their business model. Give yearly sequels to all the "ten-year games", and stuff them with even MORE lootboxes and microtransactions! Meanwhile give Rocket League -- the good teachers pet that let themselves get eaten up by massive publishers -- free cross-play on every console, while denying that privilege to Warframe. Everyone hop on the battle royale gravy train, shun Warframe for not trend-chasing. Surely that will prove the universe that Warframe is dead, right? Only for Warframe to ride even higher with appearances at the Game Awards, and all the other live service garbage to bomb. Only Rocket League surviving because they had the soul they started with. It was only around that point, like 2018, that the Warframe curse started to subside. The triple-A industry just ran out of hate, they had no one to blame but themselves for Warframe constantly kicking their asses

@@TARINunit9 that's really interesting comment, never knew about the orchestrated hate against warframe. Is warframe any good? never played it but have heard about it and the grind.

@@shanehudson6969 The _orchestrated_ hate against Warframe is an exaggeration, but there are definitely some executives around the industry (mostly Activision) who are not happy about being proven wrong. As for if Warframe is any good, the game really only has two flaws I have to warn you about: the game does NOT tell you how to advance to the mid-game; and player skill is a very small factor in your success, because just grinding all your gear is the main way you overcome higher-level challenges. If you can look past those two issues, Warframe is amazing with fast gameplay, tons of different characters and weapons to unlock, and a truly unique sci-fi universe that they're still building on seven years down the line (with the exception of the Void, which is just a copy-paste of the Warp from Warhammer 40k)

This but Destiny's

@@TARINunit9 Seems like this story could make a great Jimquisition all on its own. Here's hoping Tencent don't ruin what made WF great tho.

Following Jim for a while i find it funny reading comments. Lots of people spouting they'll never buy [company] game again, but then they release something they like it changes to, One last chance!!! Theres a reason these companies keep releasing this shit and pushing loot boxes, it's because people are that fucking stupid to keep buying it. Talking recently to people paying for a text-based RPG and how overpriced and exuberant the costs are for it, i got called a troll who hates the game. Followed by the same people saying if they stopped throwing money at it, it might shut down! So yeah, that's gamers in a nut shell. Easiest thing i've found, just torrent everything. When you find something you actually like, buy it. Saved thousands of dollars so far.

@@SongokuJidai Nice sentiment, but the 'long term' is just a bunch of subsequent 'short terms.' Pull this bull for enough 'short terms' and people will stop buying them. Then your 'long term' is completely boned.

@@antonyduhamel1166 Nah, make money short term, use the gains to control a large part of the market and then buy off the competition. That the long term in our economy. People will buy because you can make it impossible for anyone else to offer a better alternative. Then, if the government still has sovereignty over you, your monopoly gets broken up and the circle of capitalism continues.

@@antonyduhamel1166 Well it works for Madden and 2K

In my ears it sounds like "Bloody hell this game has been in development hell far to long, just plop it into the stores and promise the buyers we'll fix it later. Only there will never be a later."

@@Virtualblueart Worst part is that it works. You'd be surprised how many people defend this practice. "THEY'LL FIX IT LATER! YOU GUYS ARE SO ENTITLED!"

Roooaaddd map!

The years-long content roadmaps for AAA games are beginning to seem like pump-and-dump schemes at this point. Advertise to prospective players that there will be years worth of content to pump up (preferably front-loaded) sales, and then cut losses and run when the players realise it's all crap. I know the Hanlon's razor saying "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity", but I cannot believe that multi-billion dollar companies are so chronically incompetent in handling their hundred-million dollar investments.

Is the buster scruggs quote a meme now?

You´re gonna hate me for saying this but : Anthem was a better game

@@pegamais1282 i dont know didint play it, but i would change one word from the original post, plurall months would change for 1 month. 1 month has passed and its almost dead.

@@sa-sy5no Has been for a while now I believe, wasn't too long after release that I saw it used.

@@pegamais1282 Comparing shit to piss lmao

Our time will come, comrade

I'm liking the lips. Really ties the whole outfit together.

Once he decides on a signature (a la Dio Green etc), then it will be complete

he's transitioning.

Jim is secretly Diavolo

@TheGschultz Personally I rather think the pink looks a bit...british. Maybe black or a plum...

Yeah, honestly Destiny 1 made me sour on live service looters only a couple of months in. It suckered me in with my love of Halo, but the lack of content and the bullshit DLC costs made me quit immediately, and I never touched a "10-year live service" game again. You can smell the bullshit from miles off, and these dumbass studio heads somehow don't realize that the Destiny formula was milked dry back in like 2014.

Are you sure?, I saw people play praise genshin impact nonstop, and it grindy too

@@sonogamirinne7172 it's an asian game. They love to grind so that's not surprising

If it had been good we'd be all for the super hero looter shooter. The issue with the bigger companies is they didn't have an idea for a fun game they wanted to make and play themselves. They had an idea for a revenue stream and a 'core play loop'. It changes the focus. Cd Projekt is starting to go down the greed path. Prediction: Cyberpunk is either their last good game or their first crappy one.

@@dcreeper7345 "or their first crappy one." Um, Witcher 2 exists, y'know.

Not always so. Take Factorio for example. The devs have been saying that they are listening to their playerbase since it entered early access and the game has actually come out as being good. I mean, look at Factorio's rating on Steam... Only a handful of games are good enough to warrant a 98% positive review score from over 73K players. Yes Fall Guys and Among Us are easily hundreds of times more popular, but they only have 2-3 times as many reviews and can't keep up with that 98% score (80% and 95% respectively).

Spoiler alert: They never listened

@@Chepakishui Stardew Valley is a good example. Almost 230,000 ratings and 97% of them are positive. I love Stardew Valley so much. If you haven't tried Stardew Valley yet I cannot recommend it enough. I have 290 hours on my record so far and I put most of those hours on the board in 3 weeks.

Supergiant did it best. they'd release patch notes and point out changes made SPECIFICALLY due to player feedback.

Oh, I just thought Jim's lips were exceptionally pink today...

not to mention the top hat

It does pop more now

what, no, his skin tone doesn't match it at all and it looks like he's eaten pink jellybeans

he SHOULD wear something like that when he does his white face to read troll comments, maybe with a darker liner, that would look way better lol

"I understood that reference"

Doesn’t Dragon Quest, another Square Enix game series, have a World Tree too?

I think crucible would need to have released to have a post mortem

Starman Dx 😂😂😂

F in chat for Sad Roger

F

Lmaooo

Or like: *"You will be playing it for the next 10 minutes"*

*Weeks* to come. Not years.

"it will be finished if people continue to play it, otherwise it'll be abandoned"

It will be worth the money you spent now in ten years, but by then it'll be hopelessly graphically obsolete.

How about "It would have taken another 10 years to finish." Now give us your money!

But we want our money NOOOW

"Thats godamn ridiculous. That will never work! You're fired"

Sorry no can do budget goes to marketing.

I don't understand the mindset behind this. These companies are bound to lose a ton of potential long term players because they don't bother releasing a well thought out polished game to start with. People are gonna buy it, hate it or get bored of it and move on. Potential long term players gone. Don't they understand there are so many other games out there to keep people busy that a vast majority of people are gonna move on? It's like they just assume this is the only game people will own and they're just patiently waiting for every patch to jump back in.

@@Stoic_Lizard I'd imagine in this case they were basing everything off of "Well it's got the name MARVEL stamped on it so people won't care! They'll keep playing it just because it's Avengers and that's the hot shit right now!!!" It's the same mistake EA made with Battlefront and Battlefront 2: they figured the strength of the brand was powerful enough to have players just hand-wave away the fact that the game is absolutely terrible. They were hoping the players would be like "Yeah the game is a bug-filled mess with blatant, unapologetic Pay-2-Win mechanics...but...but STAR WARS, tho!!!!"

Hate to be a bubble burster, but there are still companies like EA out there peddling shite & getting away with it

There will always be people without a functional brain who eat up this kind of garbage. And war never changes I expect the natural selection to take care of those fools

@@Beardwhip say hello to mobile gaming companies in Asia

Oh really? The fact that this "garbage" is being talked about is enough to show the triple A industry that there's enough horsepower to make more of it. Instead of focusing on great videogames like Huntdown we're still circle-jerking all this supposed industry BS-showing that of course we love things the way they are.

@@jdbruiser While the mistake is understandable, a lack of players and money coming in is more than enough to prove that not all attention is *good* attention. Gamers are slowly realizing how capitalism works, and thus how easy it is to punish companies for making trash. It took them three cycles of big companies hurling themselves at failed bandwagons ( FPS', MMOs, and now Live Service games) but they're starting to get it.

so a less fun trouble in terrorist town?

It's in development for cod 2021 let's be real... and it would have missed the boat by then.

You realize Fall Guys and Among Us both also ripped off other games before them.. right? Not that it's a bad thing, all techniques are borrowed, but they most definitely didn't start their trends.

@@subsume7904 It is kinda hard to make a completely original game let's be honest about that

@@subsume7904 it's like writing a story. There are no original stories; they have all been told. It's how you incorporate and arrange the story that matters. The same with games, though it's a newer medium so there's more room for originality. Most interesting game design concepts actually come from the modding communities these days - modders have less of a risk when it comes to creating original games. MOBAs originated from Warcraft 3 mods, battle royales originated from mods in ARMA, among us was based off of traitor based games like trouble in terrorist town, hero shooters were based off of mods like the original team fortress. I could go on and on. The point is that a lot of these large companies are afraid to branch out to more creative ideas but are more than happy to adopt popular game modes from modding communities because they're some of the few people in the games industry who have fresh ideas.

Aye, and they improved. Though that took a couple years. And they still needed a Destiny 2 to keep on trucking. But not every game can be such a success story.

That gets so freaking old. Focus ona complete story first before making other plans. Now it's just jumping ahead and planning for that without ever considering a failure setting it back 😡

What they should do is that they could patch the sequel hook in afterwards. Like after the game becomes a giant crowdpleasing hit, *THEN* add the sequel hook cutscene. For movies I'm not sure. Maybe throw in the sequel tease in later screenings, maybe even once it hits Blu-ray. Having the sequel tease from the start is a serious risk that could make you look like a joke that expected too much from too many people.

You'd think the game industry would learn from all the 'cinematic universe' shit that the film industry has had to learn over the last decade :P

@@2Scribble Problem is, too many executives think they're the hotshots who're going to break through that ceiling. It doesn't matter if they pass by a mound of corpses on their way to the dragon's den, they're the geniuses that'll get that lucky hit in, just sit back and watch.

@@Gemidori Those would definitely be better options because then they can have a better idea of what will happen rather than ruin a story with an unresolved cliffhanger.

I canceled my preorder days before release.

In my eyes, it was already dead when the first trailer came up. I knew from that point of time that the game would be the most mediocre shit ever

It was on my list of upcoming games to look out for, but that's onlt because I thought it was a single player game like Spiderman. Instantly removed when I found out it was another live service piece of shit.

Only Stadia can save this game now.

It was great For like a week

@@starforcenetwork I experienced the entire game during beta.

It will be a great game, said the brain dead sheeps

They saw the "Marvel" logo and creamed their pants. No further detail required.

“A faithful Avengers game, with fun gameplay” they said.

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Pretty sure most would have Reagan portraits. America and All. You'd think they do that at Steve Tom Nook and Sans too?

that's pretty cringe lol

The problem is that the industry is controlled by businessmen who are trained in strategies to make money, instead of artist who are focused on making art. The same thing happened to the music industry.

@@lloydnicholls1439 And the film industry, and the television industry, etc., etc.

Right? I think Modern Bethesda studio games are a good example of this. Fallout 4 - 76, surely Elder Scrolls (god can you imagine 6’s hype train?) but series like Dishonored, and Prey are the real gems people remember

Carl Ward there’s a vast difference between natural hype and a company telling you you’ll be playing a game for ten years because its the greatest thing ever created.

@@lloydnicholls1439 This is the inherent danger (and downfall) of unchecked capitalism. When money is all that matters, you will do whatever you can to make it, all other concerns be damned.

I'd rather laugh at the shumcks who continue to fund these boondoggles.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S48-Fek-kDs.html this?

TIME TO PAY THE PIPER JEFFREY!

Both are cynical cash grabs

@The Archangel God of War is not a cashgrab... anyone claiming that's the case clearly haven't played it. Maybe if you are a dudebro gamer buying a new NHL, FIFA and CoD every year it might seem like all games are cashgrabs. Embrace your inner nerd and try some interactive art, instead of the same old shit year after year.

@@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan THPS1+2 is decidedly not a cynical cash-grab. It improves on the original by adding fan favorite features from future games, renamed the “mute” trick to properly credit its creator instead of insulting him, and added a boatload of unlockable content you can get by playing the game and having fun, all for less than $60. I haven’t even mentioned the create-a-park mode which has countless elements, incredibly intuitive design that borders on witchcraft, and allows literally anyone to build something awesome.

@Rock Golem All commercial games need to make money. Game devs don’t and shouldn’t work for free. Even games like Fall Guys and Among Us need to get their development costs back. Those free games for Warcraft 3 are mods made in individual programmers’ spare time.

@The Archangel People aren’t criticising corporations for doing their job. They do it because they’re doing their job poorly. Banking everything on post-launch content is completely insane.

Pineappolis This is some impressive lore knowledge. I salute you.

@@jacopoveronese81 Thanks! Fair's fair, though, that was by a long way my most heavily-read few years of Marvel (loved Hickman's run on Avengers despite the, let's be kind and call them, "mixed bags," that were the big events), so it was more luck than encyclopaedic knowledge on my part, for sure.

Ship of Theseus, costume edition.

I've only just noticed the Boglins in the goggles. Not sure if they're new or I'm just really unobservant, but either way it's good shit.

He has fallen prey to real life microtransactions, F for Jim

@@JaseCurtis Yes, the boggles.