I do feel that the storyline progression and build up was a bit lacking but I especially enjoyed the introduction where the presentation was more well planned out. = )
I like how even when Ultron gets EXACTLY what he wants, he’s still unhappy and ultimately learns nothing from his atrocities. He truly is a monster playing hero.
@@anthonyallmond3682 Until you remember that Scarlet Witch literally messed up his mind up with her powers, resulting in his paranoia and fear of what’s to come to cause him to make Ultron without any kind of back up plans. In essence, Scarlet Witch killed the MCU here.
@@Francisco-yi9lw Thank you! It really feels like a good portion of the fandom sweeps this fact under the rug, and scapegoats Tony. Yes, Tony was making Ultron (along with Bruce!), but he said himself that they were never close to an interface. It was Wanda’s malign influence and the entity within the Scepter that corrupted Ultron. In short, Wanda played a crucial role in Ultron’s creation and the destruction that followed.
I love how despite all his protests Ultron is so similar to Tony, he gets a new body to become a real boy, but when he is faced with an unknown threat, he wraps himself into a new armor.
well- each armor Tony makes is supposed to be better than the last, seeing it's flaws during battle then improving it so it won't happen again (example: Ant Man getting inside in Civil War, so he invents the nano bot suit, not leaving any exposed holes so something micro can mess it up from the inside)
Ego is really strong against things not using infinity stones or derived powers But he's also like not super threatninG when you fly around and can blow up chunks of planets
Now THIS is the true Age Of Ultron. I just wish we could have gotten James Spader back as Ultron. Say what you want about Age Of Ultron, but Spader killed it in the role. You can tell Ross Marquand is definitely channeling a'lot of Spader's mannerisms and quirks in this. Marquand definitely needs to go into a full on voice acting career.
I like Ross version. I feel you take Ultron s mission and Terrifying precision more heavily then Spader, who you feel is trying to talk with you or joke around. This part of Tony , the obsessiveness of completing the mission , doesnt require that banter . And I don't think Ross is channeling Spader but actually Agent Smith of the Matrix , who acted very much the same way. And would've kept going if he had left the Matrix
Why break a model that was already working, ya know? Combining your OG look with your new perfect body is the right mix of Machine and Organism made into one.
Ultron: I'm gonna be Annihilus in this time line Watcher: No you can't spam the Annihilation Wave that would- Ultron: I SAID I'M GONNA BE ANNIHILUS TODAY
Its a toned down version of the comic book version where without the stones, he massacred everyone himself without the use of nuclear arsenal and rebuilt a metal paradise from it. In the comics this guy enjoys death and murder on another level. Basically, Thor's head should have been stripped from its flesh and Tony's reactor pulled out of his chest as an artifact.
One of the most important details that i think most people missed is that in original timeline, Jarvis managed to encrypt the nuclear code before Ultron managed to break it plus attacking jarvis thus leading ultron to plan B which is using sokovia as the meteor. This means that in this universe, Ultron managed to kill Jarvis before he was able to encrypt the code from Ultron leading him to nuclear war.
How many times have we seen malicious A.I use nuclear weapons against humans? Couldn’t we get a sci-fi movie where A.I have to make their own doomsday device?
@@carlosjaimez9028 Because its more efficient. MAD has been an established thing for decades, unlike getting a really large rock in the air and dropping it.
Ultronvison is probably the strongest being in the MCU next to the time keepers because technically this is Canon in the alternate timeline and now he's aware of the multiverse. Not even thanos with IG was aware of the multiverse Edit: finished watching loki. Don't wanna spoil for others, but this Ultron is still the most powerful being we've seen yet in the MCU multiverse
Avengers in the normal timeline stopped Ultron before he became too powerful. He evolved into a god like level. If Bruce Banner didn't see Lila Barton( Hawkeye daughter) draw that butterfly, the Avengers wouldn't have made it on time.
For the people,that's wondering,how Thanos got the soul stone without sacrificing gamora(as gamora was seen fighting the ultron bots,along with Gurdians of the galaxy, in The Sovereign ). In this Prime Ultron Universe,Thanos have sacrificed nebula instead of gamora.
Everyone blames Quill for being responsible for Thanos getting all the stones in the end... But in this universe Stark was responsible for the total destruction of the universe.
@@RetryOfHealGuy not super weak. Simply ultron evolved into a very fast death machine. It was weird but is the fight lasted longer thanos would have donde something. Ultron as the machine he is went for the most efficient, faster way to end it
I used to be afraid of Ultron, from the comics. And seeing AOA made me think Ultron wasn't that hard. But this took a different turn making me afraid of him than Thanos.
AoU kinda established that Ultron ended up being wasted potential (Whereas Thanos was not), while here, Ultron is the unleashed potential, and not the other way around
I have a question, in what year is this ep happening? It would be in age of ultron (2014), but then appears Thanos with all the stones, that appeared in infinity war (2018), but Asgard and Xandar arent destroyed by Thanos, and the guardians are in the soverein planet like in volume 2 (2014). And Asgard was with no protection cause Odin was in earth and Loki was replacing him
Age of Ultron was 2015.... GoTG2 was 2017 as was Thor Rag...most likely the story starts not long after Age of Ultron in the main timeline. Odin would of been on earth at the time (Dark World in 2013). Taking over and destroying the world would have taken awhile... its not unfathomable that it took a few years allowing thanos to start his rock collection. The gap in the story is actually Thanos himself.... while the power stone was on Xandar and obtained before Infinity War... and obviously Ultron has the mind stone... the others dont make sense. The Soul Stone was hidden and we see Gamora on the planet she's on during GotG2... so she's never sacrificed. She also was the only one who knew where it was. The Reality stone was being held by Collector so ez enough. The space stone was on Asgard though so unless he invaded Asgard which it doesnt seem so based on what we see in the episode.... theres no way he gets the space stone (which in our timeline required Rag to happen). The Time Stone would have been held by The Ancient One at the time.... so thats plausible.
@@vetwar2x445 According to Infinity War, Thanos slowly waited until all the Infinity Stones were revealed so he didn't have to waste time collecting AND searching the cosmos with a target on his back. Thanos starts his rock collection after he learns that Gamora knows how to get the Soul Stone, which he learned from Nebula after she failed to kill Thanos (After GOTG2).
@@vetwar2x445 Well, as Thor died in age of ultron, Ragnarok doesnt happen, so maybe when Thanos invaded Asgard, Loki as Odin gave him the teseract (as he knew Thanos since avengers 1 and knew his strenght). That is how he could have obtained space stone, but no clue of soul stone
What if...is just all over the place continuity wise, it's like the authors are fanfic writers, but from what I've heard its canon...it just kind of directly contradicts other existing canon, so we have to make up other explanations for things. Like the infinity stones being established to not work outside their home universe in Loki, which would make sense. But What If... says they actually do, so now we just have to say that the TVA is just specifically more powerful than the infinity stones.
@@seankock7649 Yeah, this is assuming Thanos moved up his plans when Loki failed in 2012. Which means: - The Power Stone was not in Xandar, - The Reality Stone was not with the Collector, - The Time Stone was not with Doctor Strange, - The Space Stone was not with Thor. The Black Order would have gathered these a lot easier.
I had a game when i met determined exterminators as AI, yeah. First aliens i met after some primitives and fallen spiritualist empire were jamming all signals, they clearly did not wish for their codes to be broken. I thought that they were just some inward perfectionists, no big deal, and was expanding slowly. Than they cracked my codes. Omni Eradicators. Driving exterminators. I declared war immideatly, hoping to take choke point, build a station there and hold untill i'll be ready. To my surprise their fleet did not show up. I pushed in, even took few planets with almost no resistance. Well, pushed in untill i took planet in a system where marauders raiding fleet ( i did not noticed) was going to, so they became hostile to me as well. And since i took it and eradicated eradicators, it stayed in abandoned system on checkpoint right near Omni capital. In second war i pushed in, again, to my shock without any resistance. Right untill i found their fleet and ground army. Is it turned out, instead of even protecting it's central processor crazy AI subjected to Armageddon bombardment and invasion planet of life-seeded molluscoids. When my army managed to break into fallen world, some molluscs were even alive.
Reason why the mindstone killed thanos so easily: no time and budget for the fight, thanos already had his spotlight, and it would ruin the watcher fights spectacle. So instead, just dispatch him comically easily to show how powerful he is. A lot of things do this. Comically easily dispatching a documentedly powerful foe just shows the audience they're not messing around
@@Krawna no, they actually showed them fight. Thanos is just stronger than the hulk is. People have to remember the mcu power scalings were all nerfed. Hulk can't punch through planets and lift mountains. He fought Thanos and quickly got dispatched. It wasn't a time or budget thing, it was intentionally done that way to show off Thanos strength.
Let me explain some points: ----- 1. All the episodes that are shown to us in the series do not have to follow a chronology similar to the MCU, because the events of each of them take place in different universes. The universes only adhere to the basic foundation of the chronology of the MCU, but are not obliged to copy the chronology of the sub-frequent 2. The Time Stone Thanos could get by finding it among the ruins of the Sanctum Sanctorum. Ultron staged a nuclear apocalypse across the planet and it was unlikely that the mages of Kamar'Taj had the opportunity to survive it. 3. Regarding the space stone, reality stone, soul stone and power stone, then read the point 1 again 4. The Mind stone is able to cut Thanos in half, and right now I will explain this: Wanda's forces are superior to the Mind stone in energy power, and are also capable of destroying the uru armor of Thanos. This means that the Mind stone is capable of inflicting damage to uru metal with a certain force of impact. 5. Regarding Ego and Guardians of the Galaxy, read point 1 6. Regarding the work of the Stones outside their universe: in the Endgame, the Avengers calmly stole Stones from other timelines and then calmly used them for "Snaping" in their timeline
Bro, please, stop writing the story for them. Whatever satisfaction you found in this, that doesn't make it well-written. All of the points you detailed could have been made implicitly or outright. They were not. And 'It could be an alternate timeline so that's why things are fundamentally different' is a garbage excuse for enormous variations if they weren't stated. Supposedly everything led up to Tony making Ultron circa Avengers 2. "Well, look: the story make sense if you assume that maybe you can't trust literally any detail about what you think you know and yet were told you could rely on."
So you're telling me that Vision could have actually just lasered Thanos in half in the main MCU lmao. Edit: Not talking about if Vision could have in terms of character, talking about his ability to do so, I did not expect a Thanos with 5 Infinity stones to straight up lose like that.
Technically the bs stab weakness him in the normal timeline But it's very badly shown on the movie so he just goes limp and does nothing in infinity war
@@babyyoda4942 I'm a bit confused, did he mean nanobots as in the tech used in the stark mark 50/85 suit, which isn't possible cuz he didn't even make it, or does he mean like nanobots which are supposed to be Ultron sentinels using Pym particles? If so, how would he even get his hands on Pym particles and why would he even bother to do it since he has all the infinity stones. Furthermore, it makes no sense to destroy everyone with nanobots as they are already dead. Infinity stones > Pym particles.
Are you talking about the scene where the black stuff lifts up the stones? Because i think ultron was just using telekinesis. Wanda can use telekinesis and she got her powers from the mind stone which is currently in ultrons forehead
1:01 So this means that Mad Titan Gamora (the version of her wearing Thanos' armor) came from a different universe and will be featured in the next episode.
Here's the thing. The next episode should be the finale, and I think that the Tony vs Gamora episode was pushed back to season 2. She appears with the other characters so I wonder how are they gonna do this.
The fact that ultron didnt just snap and erase all life shows how little he understands about the stones or maybe what he really wants. He seems confused with the idea of peace when what he really wants is destruction. If he wanted peace he could have just had it all with the infinity stones.
Thanos was ultimately a much more flawed being than Infinite Ultron. Thanos could only process so much information about the stones, and foolishly used them all at once to wipe out half of all life. Infinite Ultron knew the cost of doing such a thing all at once, and simply went about it at a much slower and steadier pace where he wouldn't be at all worried about any lethal blowback. Even more probably would be that his vibrainium infused body could withstand strain of using all of the stones at once for such a big thing, but why bother when slow and steady achieve the same result with no risk.
As an computer science student I admit that this episode reflects accurately the ability of what the computer can actually do if they achieve the highest realm WHICH will never happen. You see that as a Human, we’re all have the 2 essences of “what make us human” are Critical Thinking(creativity or self-awareness) which is the most valuable advantage that only human have. The second thing which is the most IMPORTANT thing that made us “human”, but also our BIGGEST weakness when it comes to solving problems: Emotions Meanwhile, the computer still has one step ahead of us is the ability to compute and evaluate logically every problems in unimaginable speed and come along with highest accuracy. But you guess it, It will never achieve the creative level like human being. Unless… Theoretically no entities should have the capability to have both that two powerful essences without having a drawback like Emotion. That entities is Ultron and with the approach of the infinity stones which brings him the infinite powers. So that’s probably why the Ultron will definitely be more powerful than Thanos when they have the same most powerful items in the universe. That shows us how much the Emotions has restrained the awareness and capability which we could have been capable of
What I like more than Ultron being an absolute monster is also how they made sure just how powerful the Infinity Stones are. Ultron uses them at their full potential and completely annihilate the universe, we've seen MCU Thanos did it but we weren't shown the impact outside of earth which really ruins the scale.
Well, if we wanna get technical Thanos and Vision while both are genocidal maniacs have very polar opposite goals, Thanos sought to bring balance into the universe by cutting half of it's population so the other half can flourish and prosper, conquering the universe was never his goal so he doesn't need to use the full potential of the stones Ultron however wanted to bring peace into the universe but his idea of peace is that no other lifeforms can exist beside himself so in order to pursue his goal of being the only "living" Thing in it's universe he has to use the stones at their full potential
Vision got stabbed and Thanos came in ready in our Marvel Universe. However, this Thanos legit walked into a destroyed Earth with only Vision/Ultron as the last 'living' being. Thanos was probably like "Wait. Wtf? What happened to the Ave-" and straight up get cut in half by the mind stone.
Her strange with the time stone and wanda are the strongest enemies he can face, But Wanda is far more Brittle, strange doesn't get the time stone here since his movie is in 2016 a year after Ultron happens Both Wanda and strange are glass cannons much damage but not durable Carol is a fucking tank so he nuked a whole ass planet or several to be sure she's dead
@@kR-qj7rw The main story Doctor Strange 1 actually took place in early 2017, including the fight with Dormammu and if you don't believe me, you can go to the MCU Wikipedia and then check when Doctor Strange first died
Speaking of which how did things get the space stone if ragnarok never happened hella would rule asguard with her undead army so how did thanos beat her with just one infinity stone it’s honestly kind of ridiculous
Ok so. He got the power stone before starlord He got the soul stone with gamora still alive somehow He got the time stone aswell, so he probably came back from the future?
@@theedgyboy4644 Well, we don't see Nebula at all, it's possible in this reality she got sacrificed instead. I honestly don't know about the other stones though
Small plot point: Thanos had already decimated Xandar to get the power stone and if Thanos had the space stone, it’s a good bet that Asgard would have been toast already as well
I mean c’mon at that point Thanos with all those infinity stones was the most powerful being in the universe. No way single being with just one would be able to take him out that easily. Time stone?
For using the time stone , he smh needs to create the loop around his gauntlet just like how strange and our main timeline thanos did in Infinity war. Here , vision just craped the F out of thanos just as he enters the scene , not giving him time to use any of the stone.
@Sami Gibbons The Mind Stone isn't the most powerful, the Reality Stone is and the Soul Stone is the deadliest. Mind doesn't do shit when you can warp reality and all the other stones to whatever you want and you got a Soul Stone that can rip out the soul of whoever's mind controlling you
So you walk out of a portal and see a guy standing alone... Thanos wouldn't really have enough time to react to the laser beam-thing Plus it's the "MindStone" so it could damage his hard skin
@@cyruswong._.2809 in this timeline, after Kang die, it comes to multiverse, and the Ultron born, he has the ability to pass through the universe, if Kang is alive, ultron should be able to see it
@@Mc-yp2bv, not necessarily, He Who Remains died and his counterparts - one of which will is Kang - spread throughout the new multiverse. In other words, where there’s a universe there will be a Kang. It’s probably what the reply above me said on why he isn’t here. That and, out-of-universe, the What If crew don’t want to introduce Phase 4 things yet. As that will cause confusion among other complications.
This was definitely deserving of two or three parter episode for such multiverse breaking story. It was visually stunning, thrilling actions, sometimes scary looking. Also it gives a breathing episode of most under rated hawkeye and black widow to shine even without superhuman powers. This was endgame level threat, should've instead deserve a movie phase for it instead.
0:28 - 0:32 i laughed sooo hard at that moment where he killed him off so easily.. them just showing how easy Vision could've defeated Thanos in infinity war
@@dovade9988 no vision stated that he can't understand and use true power of mind stone. But Ultron can in age of Ultron he actually new that loki septure is time stone but nobody knows that
Unpopular Opinion: Captain Marvel has grown on me a little, I like her in the animated series alot more then I liked her in the movies. She was way too cocky and didn't feel properly developed in there.
This was sooooooo AWESOME. This felt like reading something from DC’s Tales from the Dark Multiverse, instead of a dream it’s a nightmare. Also Ultron rocking the infinity stones was soo AMAZING
That Thanos split was hilarious. I am confused by the timeline though. I was under the Impression that AGe of Ultron happened in late summer 2015, Guardians 2 happened in late 2014, and Infinity War in late spring 2018. How can Ego still be here after Thanos arrives on Earth? Shouldn't Ego have died even before Ultron was created? How did Thanos get the Time Stone even before coming to Earth? Did Strange leave Earth during the Age of Ultron to look for Thanos?
Well, his programming was limited by the Earthly technological constraints. Only with the Infinity Stones (particularly Mind, Soul and Space) could he see the bigger universe.
@@jakubrejak1114 Yeah. I just thought it was weird since that was the reason he was built. I get it; he looked at the internet and decided to wipe out humanity, but (sort of like some people today), he didn't acknowledge that aliens have the same capacity for being evil, if not, worse. They have Thanos, Dormammu, the Kree, Ego, Hela, the creature from Shang Chi, etc that want to wipe out half to all life too. It's like he acknowledged his programing without acknowledging the reasoning. He wasn't built because humans are evil, he was built because aliens are worse.
@@deadlysilence7474 wdym dr strange ulton defeated a whole watcher who could’ve saved dr stranges universe but dr strange couldn’t at this point ultron is more powerful than him
@@seanpaulsichenga412 Ultron wasn't capable of destroying the universe in its entirety, like not just life but anything existing. And Dr Strange was capable of seeing, sensing and communicating with the watch without the infinity stones.
@@deadlysilence7474 ultron having the infinity stones is just like saying u forgot that dr strange amped himself up with dozens of powerful beings and other demons in order to attain that level of power he couldn’t destroy it without it that how he got so powerful
Reason why they always kill tony besides his death probs being an absolute point in time is also because if we stayed alive in most episodes, he’d be able to fix what happened too quickly, gotta give the other characters a chance to shine.
Only Captain Marvel came close to defeat Ultron. Scarlet Witch is a complete different concept, she transmutate Ultron. But besides that I think Captain Marvel is the only one who can get this much damage done to Ultron.
@@harakiribanzai2483 yeah but that was Ultron just watching and letting marvel trying to kill him. Afterwards,you can see just how easily Ultron grabs her hands away from his head,talks,then blows her and several planets up in a split second. No one said that marvel isn't strong but when it comes to vision Ultron, no being stands close to him as of now. I mean he literally took a chomp of the galaxy lmao what other evidence do you need to test your 'theory'