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Maserati isn’t playing around with its new Grecale Trofeo. Based on the Alfa Stelvio platform, the Grecale features style, performance, features and quality previously unseen in anything from the boutique Italian brand. It has the twin-turbo V6 engine from the MC20, a stellar, balanced chassis, a great stereo, comfortable seats, and a supercar soundtrack. But how does it compare to the X3M, Macan GTS, and Jaguar F-Pace SVR?
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@TheSmokingTire Год назад

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@omg_stoppit Год назад

Matt's watch ID? That's a gorgeous chrono.

@nickbaum679 Год назад

Just and fyi: Got a typo on the video for the website.

@jody024 Год назад

Maserati engineering doing everything Audi doesn't, i like it.

@JayB8319 Год назад

Honestly guys, this is the perfect balance of new and old formatting for TST. 👌

@crfrider57 Год назад

I would love to have the Grecale Trofeo....BUT...... We do own a 2022 Stelvio Quadrifoglio which we absolutlely love. I don't feel the Grecale Trofeo is worth $38k more than our Stelvio QV. The MSRP on our QV was $90,470 and we paid $75,500, The Grecale Trofeo in an equal spec is $114k. We have had two Giulias (2021 Ti Sport Q4 is current daily) and a 2017 Maserati Granturismo and all have been more reliable than our Audis previously owned (so tired of non-owners bashing reliabiity)

@etaesu83 3 месяца назад

The comment I was looking for

@houmandehesh740 Месяц назад

I own a Grecale: the design of the infotainment is horrific. So is the placement of the gear selectors and the stupid idea to have them as buttons. They are clunky and dont engage quickly. Also right above the touch screen for the climate control, which means the sensitive climate controls get inadvertently switched off/on. These design flaws wear you down over the time. - Do you enjoy the three chimes when you start the car? Or having to hit the “accept” button every time? - Do you like the loud sound of the turn signal? - The audio mute also doesn't hold. Many things like notifications in your connected phone make the music come back on. - Sadly there is a reason Porsche sells 4x more Macans than the entire annual production of Maserati. - Oh and I forgot: good luck giving your car to a valet. You have to give them instructions through the open window. The parking brakes only automatically disengage if you are wearing a seatbelt.

@conefcol000 Год назад

"Finance like nobody is watching" 😂. That said, I hope Maserati can sell these and apply some pressure to Porsche.

@redseven485 Год назад

That'd be nice, but I doubt it. Porsche still is technologically ahead and their sales numbers would probably confirm that.

@jaioncebollero1168 Год назад

Definitely not the case

@jasonsong86 Год назад

Love this SUV. In a sea of BMW and Porsche, this is a very nice all rounder with style and the performance to match.

@dannyroz Год назад

I appreciate you guys going back to your roots and making videos like these again. I would like to see the return of personal tuner cars, though. But that's none of my business.

@The_Stanman Год назад

Yes!! So glad to see video like this again.

@TheSmokingTire Год назад

We have videos of a supercharged ISF and a crazy swapped Scirocco coming up!

@dannyroz Год назад

@@TheSmokingTire F Yeah

@thehumanoid6543 Год назад

doesn't seem to be working. 15K views only. I love the video, but I doubt if other people did.

@The_Stanman Год назад

@@thehumanoid6543 the video was just released. Looking at view counts for videos that have been out a while, their new format doesn't seem to getting better views than the old format. However I believe Matt said where new format does better is avg watch time. My hypothesis is that if you consider the incremental time required for the new format, the ROI isn't that much better. Overall it seems like SmokingTire's new business model is making money on the storage facilities, podcasting/Patreon, and writing. The RU-vid channel is more about supporting the brand for those other endeavors.

@spuddie3207 Год назад

Is it just me or is that seat bouncing around a hell of alot.

@lucasbishop3125 Год назад

thought the same thing

@johnramsayskier Год назад

Came here to say this, it’s about all I could see other than Matt was flying.

@The_Stanman Год назад

Came here to say the same exact thing. Really odd - must not very secured and/or solid?

@gwgrote5 Год назад

@@lucasbishop3125 yeah, what's up with that? you'll have to take a Dramamine

@stefndogg Год назад

Had the same thought. Looks like its not properly mounted or something.

@rileyhaynes4669 Год назад

Great video lads! Loving the elevated production quality. Your hard work pays off. I'm a Maserati, Aston Martin and Bentley salesman and glad to hear you are rooting for Maserati. We just got the new GranTurismos in stock and I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

@jimspace Год назад

This was a joy to watch, you’ve nailed the format to the second

@fit_pharmd4830 Год назад

**Not sure if anyone else noticed, but the launch at the 2:30 mark you can clearly see the rear end of the car slowly squat like a sprinter about to take off on a 100 meter sprint. So cool to see

@GeraldRisch 2 месяца назад

Test drove one this weekend and even at 30 punching it, the gracale squats and goes.

@v12-s65 Месяц назад

@@GeraldRisch I have it at 30'000 miles right now. The engine is so damn brutal.

@itsmegilbo Год назад

I want to say a quick thank you Matt and Zack for the high quality of these reviews and really appreciate the time and effort you're putting in

@danielwatt3408 Год назад

Great jobs chaps! The new style has brought me back to the channel 🤘🏼

@juanbugatti490 Год назад

Awesome video guys! And what a beautiful car, expect for the weird screen in the center. Based on my experience with the Giulia and Stelvio, I’m sure it drives amazing.

@cjtr83 Год назад

Man, You guys are absolutely nailing these videos. Superb 👏🏻

@fletch9702 Год назад

Can't believe how much the driver seat moves. Was it not screwed down correctly? On that standing start I thought Matt would end up in the back seats.

@NathansGarage Год назад

That's exactly what I was thinking!

@jonlosito2004 9 месяцев назад

Maybe it's the Maserati built quality. I'm not surprised.

@dil6969 Год назад

Between the two, I still prefer the Stelvio. It's more unique-looking and there was actually some thought given to the infotainment and HVAC controls. Even if this is faster in a straight line, I've driven the Stelvio QV and it's way faster than can be utilized on the street anyway.

@mikepelch1969 Год назад

Awesome video. Thanks guys!

@wilson3246 10 месяцев назад

14:11 I work at a rental car company and we actually do have a Grecale in our fleet. In fact, just today I had to show a customer how to shift into drive, lmao.

@Thaiseaweed Год назад

Beautiful video! Reminds me of the drive /tuned days!

@kochj23 Год назад

This new change in format is perfect! Also, It is always amusing when you hear the free music used by another channel (Valley Racing's end credits music).

@mrdeeds72 Год назад

I really miss watching your vids. Gonna watch more!

@thegirthquake8574 Год назад

Hate to say it, but if you don't like the QP5, you just don't have a soul, man. It wasn't perfect, but it was gorgeous and sounded like sex on wheels.

@M67v Год назад

Apparently it drove very well too especially with the ZF 6HP

@Eidrian111 Год назад

They are great and the sport GT S isn’t unreliable. I have one and it’s truly great.

@M67v Год назад

@@Eidrian111 They’re reliable??? How many miles is on yours?

@papa_pt Год назад

this is 100% correct. When they showed a pic of one and said "boring" in the intro I thought WTF

@papa_pt Год назад

@@M67v I've read they're a lot more reliable than you'd expect, especially with ZF. The major common issue that seems to come up is the engine variator

@incognitoguitars9999 11 месяцев назад

Fun video. Video looks amazing.

@jamesscozzari5008 Год назад

Sounds exactly like the Quadrifoglio. Weird since the Nettuno has the same block, but different heads. I wonder how similar the detuned Nettuno is to the Alfa's 690T. Anything based on the Giorgio platform is going to be great.

@v12-s65 Месяц назад

enjoying this at 30'000 miles right now. This motor is insane, if you get a Grecale, has to be the Trofeo

@billnorblat4047 Год назад

It farts violently on upshift...

@marcinhernik1270 Год назад

Im watching and getting into the jam and all of the sudden it hits me! I've heard this before? It's Mike and JJ reviewing cars now in minecraft format?

@plizzle Год назад

nice watch, matt, wish i was in the market for that collection.

@JakeBullingtonTV Год назад

“Finance like nobody’s watching” might be the best quote in the whole piece 😂😂😂

@WBizarre Год назад

Great video. For some reason in pictures it looks like a Ford Escape-sized crossover, so the size was a surprise.

@kevincockburn7805 Год назад

I agree, the proportions are obviously very good, so it looks smaller than it is. It does look good for this segment of cars

@MikeMatz13 Год назад

Autodromo spotted!! Nice Matt

@TakuroSpirit77 Год назад

Radio volume slider over there is for the passenger. If you drive a lot of Chrysler products with volume/tune buttons on the back of the wheel, you use those as a driver 99% of the time.

@DavidM-mb1vx Год назад

Wtf cares?

@TakuroSpirit77 Год назад

@@DavidM-mb1vx Zach commented on it, watch the video. And obviously YOU cared enough to leave a reply.

@sanxi34 Год назад

HOLY SHIT!!! It squats when you brake stance it!!!! That's cool!! Now, on to the rest of the video! =P

@frankengels5275 Год назад

That’s an interesting dial, what watch is Matt wearing?

@deancostello14 Год назад

I really like this, I think I like it more than a Stelvio and that's saying something. Hope people actually buy them.

@dumisanimasilela2673 Год назад

I like this car. You can tell it's built by people who still care about driving. That engine is a masterpiece. Well done maserati.

@hardcoreep Год назад

That looks like a great road.

@VG22. Год назад

Yayyy!!! MASERATI'S back!!!!

@TheFlunu Год назад

Autodromo Chronograph!!!

@conspicuoustraverser7375 Год назад

What the heck!

@RackTacular-cp6hu Год назад

Was that a fart at 14:43? Lolololol

@williamdrijver4141 9 месяцев назад

Looks great in dark blue.

@RealRaynedance Год назад

Can't wait to hear the "Yerrus" crowd try to pronounce the name of this one.

@Royahmar Год назад

helluva banging PRX there Matt!

@flyingphoenix113 Год назад

I don't think that's a PRX. Looks like a limited edition Autodromo.

@carsaregood911 Год назад

It's the Autodromo Group B S4

@TheGardenMG Год назад

1:15 Pagani and Koenigsegg : "Am I a joke to you?"

@YouRedix Год назад

I'm proud to have worked on this car's air suspension. Seems like a decent product overall

@chadhaire1711 Год назад

yeah....suspension is so good it needed to have work on it already......sure Goober......................LOL

@claudegabriel 11 месяцев назад

look at that beautiful Autodromo Group B Rally Chrono on your wrist ;)

@sinisa3772 Год назад

Fantastičan

@ParagMathurmd Год назад

Is this good enough that's it's worth considering with the smaller engine? Big power covers a lot of sins. A sign of the overall excellence of the Macan is that its in the conversation while 90 bhp down on power. How does the $75k version with the 325 hp 4-cyl engine compete?

@singingLeaf123 7 месяцев назад

how does this compare to a stelvio quad.? is it worth the price hike?

@julianevans9548 Год назад

Like all crossovers, it would handle better if it was a saloon/sedan or hatchback - i.e. not needlessly tall.

@Gearbhall Год назад

unfortunately nobody buys sedans anymore

@jareknowak8712 Год назад

@@Gearbhall Car people still do.

@Justin_GFM Год назад

@@jareknowak8712 Car people don’t always drive sales and that’s what companies are looking for, crossovers and SUVs are the hot thing and have been for years

@jareknowak8712 Год назад

@@Justin_GFM I agree with You. Your statement doesnt disprove mine.

@neilturner6749 Год назад

No one drives these vehicles in the real world how Matt, Zack and other car journo’s do on test, so who gives a fig if crossover handling is only 95% as good as the equivalent sedan. Most people much prefer the higher seating position giving better visibility and ease of entry/exit. Grow up or just get a proper sports car if you’re that desperate…

@90boiler Год назад

It is basically Stelvio in nice clothing, engine is Stelvio with some add ons

@cmgeb1 Год назад

What’s better - stelvio quadrofoglio or this trofeo in terms of performance?

@atarijones5056 Год назад

Matt looks like diddy Kong in Mario kart but what we'll edited and filmed video this style filming is great it makes the channel look more expensive! 😅

@Resist_Oppression Год назад

While I don't care for X-overs/SUVs, definitely looking forward to more tuner coverage.

@JP-hb4mv Год назад

This type of video is good! Not as formulaic as the typical canyon drive

@JK061996 Год назад

6:08 in recent motorsport history the MC12 dominated FIA GT between 2005 and 2010

@neilturner6749 Год назад

Wasn’t that a rebodied Ferrari Enzo rather than a genuine Mazza product?

@joe718gt4 Год назад

@neilturner6749 pretty much.

@HumanStateOfEmergency Год назад

Is that seat on springs?

@scorpionking8661 Год назад

Forza Italia🇮🇹🇮🇹👍👍👍

@lifeatitsbest410 Год назад

Matt, the 2002-2019 Maserati motors are literally made in the Ferrari factory in Modena, designed by a Ferrari designer, and given shared engine codes: F136 (na) and F154 (turbo). The only major differences were the crankshaft and some intake plumbing amongst a few other small tweeks. The is coming from a biased F136r

@dtmenace Год назад

That driver’s seat seems to move around A LOT with a LG human behind the wheel.

@whoischxse Год назад

Question to be begged, How does it compare to its sibling the Stelvio QV?

@masimilianzo Год назад

What is the watch that Matt is wearing?

@tommygu6376 Год назад

Why is Matt giving some John Davis vibes in this vid😂😂

@bogosian. Год назад

Autodromo watch looks amazing.

@flyingphoenix113 Год назад

Is that the Hodinkee edition Group B Chrono?

@bogosian. Год назад

@@flyingphoenix113 yes, sold out already.

@carsaregood911 Год назад

@@bogosian. not all of them

@MrC72k Год назад

Excellent. I’ll take one in 2 years after it depreciates 75%

@donttruckhere Год назад

it wont maserrati is back

@MrC72k Год назад

@@donttruckhere lol sure boss

@LilleyAdam Год назад

If my car upshifted like that I don't think I could take it out in public.

@You__GG Год назад

The engine layout looks exactly like the one on the quadrifoglio

@Conker187777 Год назад

What watch are you wearing in this video Matt?

@carsaregood911 Год назад

Autodromo Group B S4

@braydenkirk5820 Год назад

That watch of Matt's is beautiful, what is it?

@MikeB85 Год назад

Im pretty sure this would outperform the Levante Trofeo, even being down 70hp. The interior looks better too.

@michaeld3404 Год назад

It farts every upshift, nice

@tehbrutenextdoor Год назад

Just gonna say: Great job on the video guys. I was two days late because you've programmed my monkey brain to look for smiling mugs. #algorithm #monkeybrain lol

@JC-vk6ii Год назад

I like it,...at some point they will get it right, they are way closer now!

@papa_pt Год назад

Uhhh you show the Quattroporte as you say "boring".. no way that was intentional

@YuriTereshyn Год назад

SUV of the year

@MrMatteo83 Год назад

Lol

@ak2112 Год назад

“A pretty good car. A pretty complete package.” For 6 figures, I’d want a lot more.

@KUROSHURA 5 месяцев назад

I want one I want one bad

@leonardr6704 Год назад

Based on reviews so far, this seems like a killer in its segment, price aside.

@zeomarmob 5 месяцев назад

Ugly is complimentary. Included for free. How can one company design both Levante sport and this, Is mind bugling.

@gavinsullivan9015 Год назад

I watched this just to support the channel but this seems like a nice car! Although paying 10-15% over the Porsche to get the Maserati badge might be an ask. But agree with the sentiment sometimes its nice to have a car that not everyone else drives…

@glucia2223 Год назад

Yup. That’s what steered me away from it. Cross shopped it with a Macan GTS and chose the Porsche. They have a pricing problem with the Maserati.

@avdogrebovic5398 Год назад

buy it Matt

@prolapsed5104 Год назад

A Maserati two-car-garage everyone likes :)

@darkmatter6714 Год назад

That seat is mounted on a sponge

@Paws403 Год назад

I think this is a pretty good alternative for people want something different to the (now) run of the mill Macans. Will it maintain value like one? Probably not. Will it be as reliable as one? Also probably not. You can't deny it's italian flair though in a sea of german products.

@chamade166 Год назад

Would personally never trade my Crosstour for one. Japanese know reliability and sturdiness. The Honda V6 takes well to aftermarket blowers and then it’s basically game over for Europe.

@carsaregood911 Год назад

@@chamade166 wtf 😂

@papa_pt Год назад

@@carsaregood911 bruh I'm cracking up too 😂 watch out for the turbo crosstour world beater

@hamronD73 Год назад

@@chamade166 hahahahahahaha

@glucia2223 Год назад

As someone who owns a Macan GTS, I agree. I was actually considering this car, until they priced it abkut $15k more than a GTS. And while you’re right that Macans have become “common,” at least there are fewer GTS running around. They’re pretty sweet. Maserati messed up their pricing.

@AndrewSVO Год назад

Missed opportunity to say that it won't go 185 but it'll sure as hell feel like it.

@letd1995 Год назад

It sounds just like my x3m

@dillongargano9282 Год назад

I love that this car is a thing. Love that it’s very good. For 100k tho? Like STARTING at 100… no way man. Base should be 80s. Fully fully loaded low 100s would make way more sense. Can’t imagine spending 120k for a loaded on of these.

@Sumdumdad Год назад

No ventilated seats? Heated seats only for the front? For $51k+ the lack of such simple features is unacceptable.

@DBGMLV Год назад

Offtopic question for Matt: What kind of Royal Oak is that ? Kind of looks like a smartwatch verion of it, but as far as I know no such thing exists. Plus I doubt you'd buy something of the sort.

@jdhazan Год назад

It’s the Autodromo Hodinkee Group B

@russheins6458 3 месяца назад

Why is the drivers seat moving around so much , never noticed that on any other car 🤷‍♂️

@trevorsutherland5263 Год назад

This car was designed for me---at least the Modena trim is. In two years as a CPO purchase with Maserati's unlimited mileage warranty. Porsches retain value to a degree no other brand can match....they just do However a CPO Maserati is an excellent luxury sports value imho. You can rack up unlimited miles worry free for three years, and since the big depreciation hit took place before you bought, you get to enjoy driving a 1%-er car for 20%-er money.

@MBisFrenchy Год назад

Porsche sport cars maybe that Cayenne and Macan won't hold well either.

@greaser3069 Год назад

surprisingly I like it, but man is this thing gonna be one big headache with not only the price but with all the breakdowns and electrical gremlins

@sergio_81 Год назад

Matt´s watch? What it is?

@carsaregood911 Год назад

Autodromo Group B S4

@davidjpekel 6 месяцев назад

what's with the seat moving side to side under acceleration and turning..... very disconcerting!

@MrLph427 Год назад

I want the mc20 engine upgrade please - extra 100 bhp and 85 lb ft please

@neilturner6749 Год назад

Then you Sir need to grow up!

@snozbaries7652 Год назад

My Maserati does 185

@potatochobit Год назад

The yellow paint is a 15,000$ option.

@BigShmeels Год назад

Am I the only one who hates the fart sound on upshifts??

@gjmartin88 Год назад

Alfa owner here. What's not mentioned about Maserati, the dealers network sucks...

@zonapainter Год назад

I love the exterior styling and for my money the interior is nicer than any of the competition. If I was spending $100K on a crossover, this would be it.