Mass Effect's Laziest DLC 

"305001 birds with one stone"

Colonist, Ruthless, Renegade.

@@gabrielrussell5531 Literally my current playthrough lol

@@pikmonwolf My Paragon Vanguard Shep didn't bother with sneaking past the Batarians because that involved not charging into things and smashing them. My Renegade Inflitrator didn't because that would involve not killing Batarians.

Shepard.

True, but Mass Effect 3 starts with millions of dead Batarians right out the gate, so it's got some competition.

@@pikmonwolf But you don’t personally have a hand in that, I want to know that I’m the reason why they’re dead.

It's not even that big of a city in terms of population.

Lowkey same....especially after they poisoned us

There should have been a renegade interrupt after the relay blows up where Shep just laughs

That's fair, I still wish it was executed better. The scene just goes way too fast

@@pikmonwolf Yeah, I'd say so. Man, this was such a poor showing after Lair of the Shadow Broker.

I think that Shepard's resistance is because of the Eden Prime Prothean artifact ME1. Dr Chakwas states that anybody else would have died and is baffled how Shep didn't. She states that Shep must have an incredible will.

Do also remember that Shepard is effectively a heavily augmented cyborg who can drink ryncol pretty easily and survive poisons taylored against humans.

Eh, the more you learn about the development, the less plausible anything was planned that far in advance. There was massive changes between where they were going from the start of ME2, though with how long the development phase is plausible they would have the DLC flushed out enough mid development of core game could add some setups.

Ah right, the thing for the guy

@@pikmonwolf Let me just say, you are doing great job!

Frankly, the Normandy coming in for a bombing run with the Thanix Cannons and dropping in Garrus and the crew inside the Mako would've been absolutely epic for a rescue operation of Shepard! But hey who cares?

I feel like a stealth ship that lost its C.O. for 2+ days actually would hang out near the mass relay because from there they could spy on any ships leaving the system and monitor comms traffic. It would be their best chance at rescuing him if they figured the Batarians were going to try to exfiltrate him from the system. @@pikmonwolf

That makes sense. You don't really get good dialogue with Kenson though. She just rants and raves.

@@pikmonwolf That's what I mean, Shepard's words did nothing and Kenson went nuts. So Shepard didn't give Illusive Man that same chance and put him down.

Except you ignored all the other options. Convincing Saren to kill himself is only an option if you invested enough points into Charm or Intimidate. Even with those options available if you’d rather fight him you still can. Likewise, if you built up your Paragon or Renegade score enough and chose the right dialogue options in your previous encounters, you can convince TIM to kill himself.

feels like my head canon with Eliza Shepard *lol*

I still wish you could have had one last boss fight with TIM even if it wasn’t very good it would still have been better then the ending we got

I honestly really liked Omega. I love 3's gameplay so I'm happy to have just a big ol' heaping chunk of combat in a cool environment.

@@pikmonwolf ME3's combat is fun but doing it for three hours with no proper morality choices, fun banter or likable characters drains a man. An Carrie-Ann Moss sounds like she doesn't want to be there.

@@Jnensrevenge I really liked Nyreen, I just felt she was underutilized, but I enjoyed what was there. The lack of proper choices does stink though. It's really just the General's fate and that one game of chicken.

Yeah, that's something I thought about, too. Hackett, the head of the Alliance Navy, sends Shepard out. It'd make sense if he then sent one of their top operatives after them when Shepard doesn't respond. Or to make it even juicier, the Virmire Survivor meets up with the Normandy after Hackett sends them out and the VS and Shepard's love interest/most used squadmate in the game is with them.

@@Jnensrevenge The general felt like Grand Admiral Thrawn from Star Wars Legends. An honorable and smart tactician who isnt just some brainwashed a-hole like pretty much all other cerberus people youre meeting, just on the wrong side of history. Felt like he was one of the most likeable villains in the trilogy. Then again, wasnt hard being more strategic than Arya who just acted like the elephant in the porcealin shop every single time.

𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘨𝘰𝘯 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘷𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘮𝘺 𝘣𝘰𝘥𝘺 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢 𝘉𝘢𝘵𝘢𝘳𝘪𝘢𝘯

​@@pikmonwolf something about them makes me want to commit genocide I don't know how they made them so infuriating 😂

Alliance and Council Politicians: *"B-but there are women and children on that Batarian colony!"* Me, loading M-920 Cain with malicious intent: _"Shame."_

@@jonathanoriley8260 *good

@@jonathanoriley8260 There were women and children on Mindoir... i was one of them.

My head cannon is concentrated attack points. Supernova just go everywhere and isn't as much physical damage. You have a point of physical impact maybe the relay can't handle it

Yeah the fact that they explicitly reference a Mass Relay surviving a super nova as a main plot point in the first game, makes it feel a bit odd.

Extreme heat. Not blunt force manipulation of energy.

It's heat vs impact objects.

Umm... Big object going to little object. Something was going to give.

They have some lines, but there are pretty few of them. Most notable ones are after the explosion of trade center and also when you meet Shadow Broker face to face. There might be a few other ones, but those two I remember the most. But Overlord has none, that is true.

Yeah 2 is really bad about that. You don't notice in Bring Down the Sky because there's really only one or two cutscenes. In 3 they actually brought voice actors back and it makes such a monumental difference. Hell they got them ALL back for citadel.

@@pikmonwolf Except Dr Chakwas

​@keiranbroida2945 yes! Forever the bane of my existence. How could they leave out Karin? We even had Joker!

This is a big part of the reason I never replayed most of the dlcs on my second and third playthroughs

I agree. I did a whole video on that as well lol

@@pikmonwolf oh where and when

@@Jose_Doe u can find it on their channel its called ,,why it is the dumbest section of mass effect 2,,

Funniest thing about that is if you play ME2 perfectly, when you reach the IFF cutoff, there won't even be a mission to leave the ship for. It's entirely possible you can have no missions left by that point, so Shepard and the squad will just fly off to nowhere.

"There's a a dead Reaper who can indoctrinate people and can also be an irrefutable proof for the Council, let's board it and then burn it in the sun"

Valid

Colonist Shepard: No reason in particular... it was just something to do.

I tried to warn them, because I'm a Paragon.

Most Paragon colonist Shepard.

@@griffingower1883 bad idea

That's true. If she'd just parted ways the Reapers would've arrived as planned.

Yeah my first thought was immediate sus from her. It was going too smoothly

Classic villain dialogue you have to brag about hot great you are

The helmets are a minor issue, but like pikmon said they're representative of a larger problem. I'm fucking pissed that he's pointed them out though because now I'll never be able to not notice it lol

The reapers are full of hubris and probs wanted to kill Shepard in the first wave.

Right? It's stupid

I don't understand why he didn't shoot it out of her hand. A bullet does not kill you instantly like it does here unless you kill the brain. She would actually just push the button because she's going to die anyway.

Choices.

That's fair. The tone isn't bad on the surface.

You still get a bit of that in the Last Stand portion, if you survive until the Artifact knocks you out. I won the fight on Insanity and I sure as hell felt like the badass soldier that held off an endless wave of Batarians on Elysium.

@@alexrazim4467 in terms of fighting, yeah it lets you feel like a bad ass, but then there’s the ticking clock reminding you that the reapers are on the way any day now. Then the end of the DLC, where you are left with your only option being to sacrifice an entire star system just to buy the galaxy a bit more time (a regular occurrence in ME3). Story-wise, it’s very in line with the tone of 3.

Part of why I loved me3 more than 2. It had a more realistic approach to a doomsday. That oh fuck here we go feeling still gives me goosebumps

Right? Accidentally destroying the galaxy in the end, whoops

I mean does it? Sure the Alpha Relay when detonated will destroy a solar system, but will every relay explode that violently? Maybe it's a flaw with the oldest relay in the galaxy, maybe they originally wanted the mass relays to be galactic in range but realized such a core was too unstable for general use. I mean it's a bit of reverse engineered head cannon but it does at least establish both why only one relay can fling ships across an entire galaxy AND why only the Alpha Relay has a catastrophic detonation.

@@zancloufer 1. If you’re having to resort to headcanon to explain plot holes and contradictions, you’re tacitly acknowledging that a plot hole or contradiction exists. 2. If you’re having to resort to headcanon to explain these things, you’re doing the writer’s job for them and they failed at their job. 3. BioWare tacitly acknowledged this contradiction. In the original (i.e. Pre-Extended Cut) ending Hologram Kid said that using the Crucible would destroy the Mass Relays. This line was removed in the Extended Cut. So there was a contradiction. Unfortunately it’s the only one that was acknowledged.

I think that's a little unfair since what happened at the end of ME3 was under a different circumstance than what happened at the end of Arrival. It's comparing the act of crudely ramming an asteroid into a Mass Relay with using a weapon (?) that was designed to be used with the Catalyst (aka the Citadel) which then affects the Mass Relays. If they rammed the Crucible directly into a Mass Relay but the result was something different than was shown here then you'd have a point. However, what was shown at the end of ME3 was clearly different than Arrival. I sometimes feel that in the process of criticizing the endings (which is absolutely fair) people tend to misrepresent it, be it unintentionally or intentionally. Though that is only my opinion.

@@rayclay3249 I’m not misrepresenting anything. BioWare tacitly acknowledged this contradiction. In the original (i.e. Pre-Extended Cut) ending Hologram Kid said that using the Crucible would destroy the Mass Relays. This line was removed in the Extended Cut. So there was a contradiction. Unfortunately it’s the only one that was acknowledged.

yea like why doesnt it give you paragon batarians are a galactic pest

I’m sorry but do you really WANT to save the Batarian colony?

I mean there's always innocent people ​@@GreenTomas2372 so I've tried to warn them🚶

I mean hey, there's also uh... that one, the uh... the guy who worked with Garrus when he was Archangel.

@@pikmonwolf I like to imagine that Mindoir Shepard was seething inside when Garrus told them that lol

@@pikmonwolf I think that is one of the flaws in how we the player get to see the Batarians. We never see these "good" batarians. I'm not counting the ME3 refugees because they are sadly just set dressing. The best batarian we get to interact with is Bray and he's not exactly a good person. It's hard for us to see the batarains as anything other than a purely chaotic evil species.

@@tomleary508 I suppose the trilogy is more interested in drawing a line between the radical and non-radical Batarians, less so them being 'good' or 'bad'. An example that comes to my mind is the sick Batarian you meet on Mordins recruitment mission. If you choose to save him, he quickly changes his tune and is much less xenophobic against humans.

​@Tom Leary I'm glad someone can say something about Batarians that's not just how much they deserve to due horribly. I wish Bioware did a better job fleshing out Batarians in the Trilogy instead of making them these cartoon boogeymen.

A fort Drakon style rescue would've been phenomenal, but I get that they couldn't get all the voice actors back. However what would've been similar and way more feasible would be to have the Virmire survivor rescue you or work with you on this mission.

@@pikmonwolf Honestly that would be cool since it could flesh them out a bit more and justify a little bit of the tension between them and Shepard in ME3 as well.

Make it be where you choose a squadmate to control, and you lead a squad based on the leader. Even if it's limited, it's better than nothing. The idea I have is: Miranda, commanding Jacob and Zaeed (or Garrus if Zaeed dlc isn't obtained) Mordin, commanding Grunt and Jack Thane, alongside Samara and Kasumi Garrus, with Tali and Grunt

@@sev1120 That would really cool not gonna lie

@@blueberrypineapples441 a chance to control a squadmate to show their skills outside of three skills. Even if their other skills are from the generic class list, it'd be good regardless

I honestly think "you worked with Cerberus" is a fair enough reason. Just make it so a different Cerberus cell does something extra bad and Shepard gets caught up in the shitstorm.

​@@pikmonwolf Aye, that's a much better explanation. The opening to 3 (if you didn't play the Arrival DLC) raises so many more questions than answers. Why and how is Shepard suddenly on Earth? Who's this James Vega guy? How much time has passed between the end of the Reaper fleet sighting at the end of 2 and now? Has the invasion already began? WHERE THE HELL ARE MY ME2 SQUADMATES? Though to give some credit to the opening, it does perfectly set the tone once the Reapers begin their attack.

You know what that makes some sense. If you destroy the Collector base it would be reasonable to have Shepard return to Earth and rejoin with the Alliance. However if you chose to preserve the base it would make no sense for Shepard to cut ties with Cerberus, return to Earth and hand their ship over to the Alliance. They needed a reason for Shepard to be on Earth with the Normandy and cover all bases, thus The Arrival script was written.

Arrival is Bioware slapping it together and just create a completely solo mission.

@@onemoreminute0543 ME3 is both one of the worst and best intros to any game I’ve played. Worst if you haven’t played the arrival DLC & all the other unanswered questions and best bc everything else

Yeah Me2 didn't get the voice actors back for anything, not even Lair of the Shadow Broker. Really makes you appreciate the Citadel DLC.

Kinda feels strange to be arrested without this dlc. I don't think Shepard would turn himself in when he knows that the reapers are coming, and the fact that most of the alliance is willing to look the other way even if you are working with cerberus. They even give you back your specter status if you just agree not to work in council space.

The thing is without the pressure from the Batarians because of what happened with the relay Shepard may not have been detained. Yes they were working with cerberus, but they have enough clout within the military that some people would trust they did it for good reasons once they leave. Especially since 95% of your activity in 2 was outside of council space anyway.

You’re still a specter so alliance have no authority on you and condemning the re better soldier simply for working with Cerberus is not possible due to the protection of Anderson and hackette who protect him and so the only logical way to force him to stand on earth is to assure peace with batarian cerberus is not enough reason to arrest Shepard

I disagree. "Working with" Cerberus is not a valid excuse for Shepard to be locked on Earth at the start of ME3. Because not every Shepard really works with Cerberus. In fact, most of the choices available in the game make Shepard a double agent. And Shepard's not even just a member of the Alliance in an undercover role, they're a spectre on an undercover op. And as the trilogy really likes to remind us, spectres have ultimate authority to do whatever they please with no oversight. Which is moot regardless because Shepard does have explicit permission from both the Alliance and The Council to operate as a double agent for Cerberus.

Especially if you're playing with the colonist background.

​@@pikmonwolf a❤

Friggin Renegades.

@@griffingower1883 your not killing batarians your cleansing them

@@bruhgod123 Not unless I'm fighting the Blue Suns or the Batarians on Aratot who don't really give a choice after rescuing Kensen

I wish they'd explored the fact that the Thorian can cure it more.

They didn't. They came and harvested. They used the indoctrinated to do their dirty work.

They'd need to fight because, obviously, people are going to push back on it and it's not like there's no way no one will figure out what's happening.

@@mechanomics2649 My point was, the way Indoctrination is repeatedly exhibited in the game, very large groups of people are fully indoctrinated with no clue it was even happening to them. Not one time did any group figure it out and stop it from happening. So there would be NO push back..no fighting back, if the Reapers simply indoctrinated everyone. Start small it some isolated Organics. Indoctrinate them, and then have them carry indoctrination devices into major population centers, and military installations. The entire population would be indoctrinated before they knew what was happening. Keep in mind that the norm is that the cycles don't even know about the Reapers until they are having to fight against them. So, this means that the Reapers always have the element of surprise. Life is chugging along as normal, and then one day the Citadel activates and the Reapers come pouring in, taking everyone by surprise. But, as was the case with Sovereign, they also normally left scouts/watchers in the Galaxy to monitor things. Why wouldn't this Reaper be tasked with getting the indoctrination started...attack a ship, or small settlement, and then indoctrinate them? They had the Collectors. Why not employ them to gather the organics to indoctrinate? The Indoctrination theory is popular for a reason. Indoctrination was portrayed as being so powerful, that there was no real defense against it, making Shepard being indoctrinated, the only realistic option. He was, after all, knocked out by an indoctrination device and woke up days later. As Op as Indoctrination was portrayed, he should have been indoctrinated. it's a plot hole big enough to fly a Reaper invasion fleet through.

I don’t Think the reapers Can just use indoctrination on a large city let alone a planet and it sometimes takes days for it to work

I mean, 2 can definitely end on a bad note if you fuck up the suicide mission. But that's a personal tragedy, not a universal one.

​​@@pikmonwolf 2 already ended on a sinister, universal note with the appearance of a full Reaper fleet at the end of the game. ME 3 did such a poor job of following up the plotlines set up in 2.

@@onemoreminute0543 I agree with this. Seeing the entire Reaper fleet heading towards the galaxy at the end of 2 got me so hyped for 3 as a kid. It's such a shame 3 fumbled the ball.

@@emmanuel4989 I've been replaying ME1 and ME2 recently and it's interesting to see where the characters arcs were potentially going to go before the change in writers and time restraints led to rewrites for some in 3. Like with Grunt, as strange as it sounds, it appears as if he was set to become a full on rival to Wrex/Wreav in ME3. Because of how well he passed his Rite of Passage despite being tank bred, literally every Krogan on Tuchanka goes on about how great he is (including the Shaman). And when you talk to Wrex about Grunt passing the trial, he seems almost threatened and semi-concerned by Grunts performance (being the first Krogan to take down a thresher maw since himself) That's why I think it would have been a better idea if, instead of that bizarre coup with Udina occuring on the Citadel, there should have been a potential coup against Wrex/ Wreav after curing the genophage where Grunt could have been the new Krogan leader. You can choose to either advise Grunt in supporting such a coup (Renegade) or dissuade him from doing so (Paragon) (he would after all still have the backing of many Krogan popularity wise). You might choose to support him as you think Wreav/Wrex's ambitions are a threat post-Reaper war even with the genophage cure. You might choose to dissuade him as you're confident in Wrex/Wreav's judgement and that Eve (if alive) can restrain those Krogan ambitions. There are other things too, like how it seems as if the conflict between Jack and Miranda wasn't properly resolved in the story of 3 and there could have been an arc similar to Rannoch focusing on just the two of them over a specific struggle.

@@onemoreminute0543 Yeah I hated the way ME3 basically sidelined most of the ME2 crew. Most of them got relegated to 1 mission and only Garrus and Tali can be used as squadmates. The excuses for why characters like Samara, Grunt and Miranda couldn't join the crew was BS aswell. They send Miranda on a wild goose chase, they say Grunt got injured even though krogan regenerate and heal quicker than any other species and Grunt is supposed to heal even faster given he's the perfect Krogan, and Samara said some nonsense about her code saying she must fight where the war is at its most dire instead of working under shepard who is literally leading the Reaper assault.

A solid headcanon, but the message doesn't go through properly, that's why you still need to head to the radio tower at the end.

@@pikmonwolf I agree that's not much to go on. But just throwing it out there dor the renegade Sheps out there lol

Ah pure renegade playthroughs, a classic chaotic stupid story lol

@@pikmonwolf "Well, what about Shepard?" "The violently deranged psychopath who can't hold a consistent ideology or morality for ten seconds?" True renegade deserves an in depth study to see if there's any consistency to it across a single game, let alone the series. I think the consistent thing is some form of intense human centric xenophobia, extreme disregard for life, a geniune need to murder and be violent at every opportunity, a strong dislike of anyone telling you what to do, a strong dislike of anyone questioning you or your orders... I'd say it's a kind of facism but then ME2 and 3 come around and you can be renegade against cerberus, leading to some arguments where both sides are literally agreeing with each other, or saying they're right but THEY are the ones who want to do the thing, etc etc. And of course, a true renegade run ends in ME2 with the deaths of every single squad member bar shepard, zheed and mordin. You can kill the later personally by setting him on fire afterwards, and shoot mordin in the back early on in ME3.

@@thebutterflycomposer7130 The one thing consistent with Renegade Shep? Do as much damage as possible/just being an asshole in princip. I wonder why the council does not cut you out of the S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Program...

@@Legendendear comes from never really defining what SPECTRES are. Some are super cops like the FBI, some are clearly controlled state terrorists, some are super soldiers, some are really good scientists and investigators, and all of them seem to be extremely good at getting whatever task they are given, done. Shepard is just the most dangerous by far, because they not only have a top of the line stealth ship, fanatical followers, special forces training and oceans of credits and other resources, they are also capable of talking anyone into doing anything - and are extremely capable of doing ANYTHING they feel they need to do. A paragon shepard is terrifying and awe inspiring in equal measure. A renegade shepard is essentially a human reaper, dropping out of the sky and either murdering you or forcing you to bend the knee to their will.

@@thebutterflycomposer7130 Honestly not even the xenophobia is consistent for renegade, after ME1 renegade just meant being an asshole or do something an antihero would do. Even when you were doing whatever Cerberus wanted it was written less as Shepard agreeing with TIM’s ideology and more as Shepard believing that the ends justifies the means.

It takes awhile to indoctrinate, so it makes sense why they weren't indoctrinated from the shock. But, why did they not keep Shepard near it while they were out?

@@pikmonwolf Probably remnants of clarity during the indoctrination.

I think Object Rho was a reaper communications relay; possibly one of several, similar in function to the leviathan orbs, that could transmit data and commands from dark space, across the galaxy, and all the way into the galactic core. I believe it facilitated Harbinger's observation and communication with, and direct control over, the cybernetically-implanted collectors. If so, it would explain how Harbinger assumed albeit limited control of Dr. Kenson and her team, not to mention while observing Shepard and speaking directly into his mind. As for Shepard being indoctrinated, I personally think Shepard's continued exposure to the reapers, their servants, and their technology had an observable effect on him, given Shepard started having nightmares, which the Rachni Queen might've described as "songs the color of oily shadows".

My guess? Time. Simply put, Shep wasn't on that asteroid for long enough to become indoctrinated

It can take time for indoctrination to be complete, if they want a useful servant rather than a husk that is. Even Saren who was around Reapers for as long as he was, was able to resist up to a certain point because he was seen as a valuable resource and I'm sure Shepard would be viewed as an extremely good tool if they could get him/her.

I think that's valid. However for what is really supposed to be the final mission of the game, I wish it had been written better.

As a general rule, I don’t make excuses for poor craftsmanship in products I pay for.

Except Batarians don't scavenge. As shown with state controlled companies like Batarian State Arms, they have the industrial capacity to build their own armor and weapons.

@@snakesnoteyes Who said anything about making excuses for poor writing? They're explaining the way they interpreted what is shown.

@@mechanomics2649 gov, that’s an excuse disguised as head canon.

Yeah that would've been way better, if she got killed by her old team.

I honestly think with the extended cut and Leviathan, the ending of 3 is miles ahead of arrival.

@@pikmonwolf I don't think Leviathan fixes ME3's ending problems. "See, you got more stuff about how synthetics and organics don't get along." I ended the Geth-Quarian War with mutual reconciliation. "That won't last we sayz so!" Nah. sloppy writing remains sloppy.

@@shawngillogly6873 Also, "I made Synthetics and Organics agree to co-exist." but the endings are then: "Great! Do you want to destroy all Synthetic life and negate that? Control all Synthetic life and negate that, because it's meaningless when they don't CHOOSE co-existence? Or, merge all Synthetic and Organic life and negate the point?" Literally the ending negates every choice you made unless you were ALWAYS anti-Synthetic. Anti-Geth, Anti-Reaper. No nuance. No chance at redemption.

@@Paradox-es3bl i think for me4 they are gonna make destroy canon but retcon a bit of it like they did with the extended cut. the teaser for me4 is just a big ass crater of a geth face. whether that means they are all dead or liara n crew are looking for them ig we shall see. could be about the search for shepard or something as well

​@@Paradox-es3bl Destroy ending still pisses me off it destroyed every reaper technology which includes the mass relays Milky Way shouldn't exist after you choose destroy.

Very true. The only time it makes any sense is if you're an infiltrator.

He does speak, BUT it's a re-used line from Horizon. So they didn't record anything new.

@@pikmonwolf Oh okay I didn't know!

@@pikmonwolf Correct. Also begs the question: Why not recycle some more Joker lines for the ending when Normandy picks you up instead of having that random person? Joker definitely has enough lines in the game that can be cobbled together for a brief generic response to being hailed for the pickup. Maybe that was a breach of their contract or something.

@@MagicSpud No, it _raises_ the question. Yes, you're using it wrong. No, it does matter. Yes, the phrase as such exists. No, it doesn't mean what you think it means.

In fairness, she dies anyway.

Woulda been cool, but that's such a tight window that it makes sense not to go for it.

@@pikmonwolf Yeah, but odds are depending on how tight you as the player make it to that final cutscene you might manage to wipe out the fleets vanguard if they don't have time to react properly.

Bcuz it hinges on you making no mathematical error. We know Reapers will arrive no matter what so taking out them that way is hell of a gamble.

Great question with great simple answer. I'm sure it's not cheap to yeet an asteroid at a relay. Even ME1 astroid mission. And the answer is. It was denied about the facts on how reapers were ever real. The citadel dlc confirms this in me3.

@@Helikite Yes, and I would also suggest that the Reapers are just not that stupid. Harbinger makes it clear that they are aware that the asteroid ram is going to happen (probably due to Object Rho?). I do not see them making a "woopies" into the system at the exact wrong moment. There just does not seem to be a way to deceive the Reapers and weaponized the Mass Relay effectively in the time that Shepard has.

Hey thanks mate!

Agreed, but I wish they'd saved his reveal for the end rather than just unceremoniously opening with a video call.

Do we not see Hackett on the Citadel in ME1? Isn't he standing near the steps to the bridge thing we walk across to speak to the Council? Gives us a few side quests?

@@Paradox-es3bl no, that's admiral kahoku.

@@Paradox-es3bl nah thats kahoku and cerberus kills him later on in his quests. (another thing that makes 0 sense for shep to be working with cerb) just like the cerberus orchestrated thresher maw attack in sheps akuze background

That's very fair, they explicitly say they want you alive. But they could've just lied to get you there. Even something as simple as "I'll explain when we get there, you need to see the artifact to understand."

@@pikmonwolf Only answer I can think of is the Reapers assuming that wouldn't satisfy Shepard and there's really no other way to come up with an answer without attaching a headcanon to the writing. Ultimately, that's just how they wrote the thing to get Shepard into the fun zone

@@filerecovery5319 Harbinger just has too much of a crush on Shepard to lie to them

It does suck how squishier classes are really fucked over.

​@@pikmonwolf I'd have at least taken some teammates with Stealth training. Kasumi (if you have her dlc), thane, or mordin (STC training)

@@pikmonwolf Unrelated to Arrival, or even DLC in general, but speaking of LE: Man I'm so fucking let-down by LE. All they did, it seems, was break ME1 by un-balancing it. I don't want to come off like a Dark Souls player - it should be hard for everybody! Get better! BUT... I'm watching a handful of people play ME for the first time, and I've seen 2 Techs, 1 Vanguard, and 1 Infiltrator; NONE of them use powers all that much. I'm convinced that allowing every class to use every weapon with a high degree of expertise encourages players to do so; if you can only use the pistol as a Biotic, then you're essentially forced to use your powers. Instead, everybody is playing like a slightly weaker Soldier. It's a bummer. Also, the Mako is way OP, which again allows people to play "wrong" and they end up dying, instead of figuring out the "right" way to play and then getting good, so eventually dying less (there was more of a learning curve to the Mako in original edition, which I think is better). Although the speed boost is obviously a massive improvement. I wish they would've tweaked some things instead: now that we know the entire story from 1-3, you can go back and have some choices be more impactful. As an example, I'd have you get something like a 10% boost to your shields vs Geth weaponry in ME3 if, in ME1, you allowed the lady Bhatia's body to be examined by the Alliance. ALSO, dude... have choices TRULY matter. If Mordin dies in ME2, you can't cure the genophage. If Wrex died in ME1, then the Krogans don't unite at all (so if Wrex dies in ME1, then even if Mordin lives and you can cure the genophage, maybe it doesn't matter?) Maybe make Jacob not suck? (Unless he's supposed to suck? Like Javik?) I honestly like Vega, but give him some depth. Re-design Ashley in ME3, because what the fuck was that? (I'd like to have seen every squadmate in ME2 get, like, 3 different outfits: casual, uniform/light armor, and medium/heavy armor, depending on character. I guess the DLC gave every squadmate more options, but mostly they weren't good. Except for the characters whose uniform options went from "good" to "pretty much the same but slightly different".) I would've wanted to fix ME3, shift the focus from Cerberus to the Reapers, like it should've been. Maybe that wouldn't have been feasible... but at least have Cerberus be less plentiful, it's ridiculous. (Or maybe have them be that numerous if you gave Cerberus the Collector base? That would make sense to me, although I'm not sure why you would do that. Maybe you have to give Shepard some sort of boost if you do, so that it's a viable option?) ALSO: I may have said this before (I've said it a few times in comment sections talking about ME, I don't think yours yet, but...) I felt like the developers had a really good idea what "Paragon" was, but with "Renegade" they were much more scattershot. Seems like "Renegade" was pretty much anything that *wasn't* Paragon. Your interaction with Nassana in ME1 is such a perfect opportunity to nail down Paragon vs Renegade: Paragon should help her, because the life of her sister is supposedly at stake. Renegade should tell her "you made your bed, lie in it" and report her to C-Sec, causing her to be arrested. SHE BROKE THE LAW, SHE ADMITTED TO BREAKING THE LAW, BUT YOU, AS A SPECTRE, CANNOT ARREST HER!?! Neither the Paragon nor Renegade route allows you to arrest a law-breaking senator??? WTF??? Or, conversely: Paragon upholds the law and turns her in, while Renegade decides that the law is more guideline than rule and decides that the life of her innocent sister (so we think at the time) is more important than the law.

Infiltrator is both awesome and super infuriating because of having to use snipers.

Dont forget Saren, he can hide the reapers in front of the council fairly well.

I think it's clear just how many times I've replayed this series and how much I love it despite how mean I am towards it. I am currently replaying it again lmao

And thank you for the kind words

@@pikmonwolf Of course, I mean it!

Rachni maybe?

because it is fun - to flamethrow everything. guys just were on a vacation.

The reason they limited it to just Shepard is because anyone else brought on the mission would also be directly responsible for the 300k Batarians killed. Shepard and all other companions would have to start the next game relieved of duty or in jail by their own species. They'd probably have to extend this to the whole Normandy crew at that point, which is a lot of unnecessary writing The reason Shepard brought no backup was explained in the video, by Hackett.

Hey thanks man, that means a lot.

I'm glad you enjoy them! And thank you, it's a lot of work, but definitely work it.

I put the Arrival mission for after I've done everything in the game. Since I always did it after everything

@@ADGZone Yeah and i still think Bioware was the laziest company since they never bothered to fix the original mass effect 2 since the number of bugs in the original ME2 still pales in comparison to the number of bugs in the remastered version such as where your companions do the slidewalk bug after your talk with the council (if you saved them in ME1) and the krogan who doesn't hold a weapon before meeting wrex/wreav and then there's a floating shotgun when wrex comes to greet you? Or Tarak when you meet him on Omega during the archangel mission where he has this huge hole in his head if zaeed is in your party? I mean that's a decade-old case of poor programming on the devs part that has bugged generations of gamers and they never bothered to patch it. And it took them Decades to finally addressed it in Legendary Edition but i don't plan on wasting my cash on LE when it should have been dealt with for the 3 games in the past. So the poster for the Arrival DLC is misinformed about what's lazy.

@@vitoldwisniewski all true but at least there are mods that fix everything. played the LE on insanity with 10ish mods recently and it felt like an entirely new game. no annoying bugs/extra flavor and content/better gun and ability balancing

@@jaded-harper Yeah well as Peter Griffin would say, "You know what really grinds my gears? How very few people play the original Mass Effect games let alone mod it because they are too busy working on the Legendary Edition. Well i say The Original Mass Effect Trilogy still needs the love too." 😒 If LE can get good mods with no annoying bugs/extra flavor and content/better gun and ability balancing, then the original ME Trilogy should get the same thing without exceptions.

@@vitoldwisniewski tmi the ot has way better mods still overall. a lot of them couldnt be ported over fully. for example because the LE lacks the multiplayer you cannot mod in any of the abilities from the multiplayer into the singleplayer. which is tragic cause the multiplayer had some insanely fun characters to play as. i still think the LE is just more polished overall. outside of having less mods theres not really any reason to play the ot over le

Lmao, nah man that's canon now

Definite improvement

That comms tower could even function as a "comms tower, wink-wink", as in, the jammer itself. After all, to jam radio, you need to _jam radio,_ and what better equipment to do that with than, well, existing radio equipment.

Wasn't it said that the Normandy 2 doesn't have heat build-up?

@@prtfdc2 No, it just has a better heat-trapping system so it can be stealthed longer.

On top of this maybe they're pulling a Han Solo and hiding out on a nearby asteroid. The Batarians from the prison confirm that there's too many out there for them to search effectively without Kenson narrowing it down.

Same. It was such a dumb decision to lock the context of the opening to 3 behind a DLC. Although even without the DLC, you're still left scratching your head over where all your current squadmates have disappeared to lol

Doesn't it only mention the Cerberus stuff when you import a ME2 save on which Arrival wasn't done?

​@@sealeneeeif you import the save without arrival it's never mentioned why you are grounded. Anderson says vague shit like "after what you've done, you could be expelled" and no details are ever provided. That intro is catastrophily bad.

Way to prove you are a liar OP. If you import a save in which you did not complete the Arrival DLC, then Shepard is being court martialed for his involvement with Cerberus and theu clearly say that at the beginning of ME3. I get it, you want to jump on the hate train for something that the majority of people think is awesome so you can seem different and cool. That doesn't mean you get to sit here and make up lies to try make an amazing game seem like it's not good. Especially when your lie is something that can be easily fact-checked as being false.

That is actually explained. They smuggled in the parts from Omega and built it far away form any of the planets.

@@pikmonwolf Still a giant operation within Batarian territory and the batarians barely suspect?

@@dalekrenegade2596 batarians captured them eventually. so they uncover their operations somehow.

I think it depends on the class. It's fine as Sentinel since you're a jack of all trades. But Vanguard? Oof

I played adept the last time I played this mission and it was infuriating.

@@a_jerk Doesn't help that Biotics are pretty bad in 2 overall

I was having fun with my biotic before the mission lol

Very good point.

Also annoying that an Infiltrator Shepard doesn't really get to play to their strengths much here either. Every Shepard has about the same survivability in the sneaky parts. And once the fighting actually starts, if you're not tanky enough (I play Insanity) you're hosed. (Insanity enemies just charge Kenson while aiming at you with little concern for their own survival and have laser accurate aim with hair triggers) Infiltrator's all about getting that alpha-strike in. Edit: ambiguating gender

Editing is hard and takes awhile lmao

I do agree, at the very least it should be a lot more difficult to destroy them. I guess you could say if you're launching a meteor, might as well hit them directly vs waste it on the relay and cut yourself off from here as well, but still... NOBODY tried it?

That's fair, but the scene could've been done better. You just kinda go from the fight to instantly waking up, it's clear they mainly just wanted to lower the time until Arrival.

Thanks, that took awhile to get right lol

That's great. I like the protean idea way better than object Rho, and I also thought a Batarian assault would've been a way better 2nd mission than indoctrinated alliance troops.

Where can I read this?

@@prtfdc2 On a Hard drive written across 4 different word documents. I have considerable dislike for Mass Effect 2's primary plot line and as a result have a lot of rewrites I've made over the years.

@@pikmonwolf It stands to reason the Protheans, given how long they survived the harvest, would have been able to develop counter measures and other kinds of tools to prolong the struggle. Likewise it makes zero sense for the Reapers to irresponsibly leave behind devices that allow privileged information to be obtained by the very species they plan to harvest. After all, was it not the secrecy of the Reapers existence being their biggest strength?

@@Otis-Spunks you should upload them; I'm sure many fans would love ME 2 rewrites. I saw a 1-hour long video on how ME2 was the worse ME game; the video came out a year after Andromeda came out

The squadmate interactions (between each other) are the best in the series

@@pikmonwolf Oh yeah, that's a great point. Always something fun for the squadmates to say between each other in 3 compared to the other 2.