MASSIVELY More Accessible! Demonstration of High Level Crafting In The War Within 

This is such a massive improvement! I became so... just... absolutely tired once I was trying to do professions on just my second character, basically gave up midway through season 2 of Dragonflight!

Starting to understand for the first time what I should NOT have done in Dragonflight! This time around I will have a plan! Thanks for the teaching moments!

I hope it is, I always hit a wall where I have no idea how to get better with crafting.

Nice video. I hate playing money and trade games. I still have major toons that haven't maxed their professions in Dragonflight, which by no stretch of the imagination has ever been the case in the past. And I finally gave up on the Lariat recipe a few months ago, crafted it on only two toons via a friend who got it almost immediately. Dragonflight goes down as one of my favorite xpacs; but my login record indicates the opposite. The compulsion to log in and hang out with friends while doing non-dungeon content isn't strong enough when they don't have time to do anything but M+ and raiding, which I stopped doing. Completionism is a game in itself, so when Blizz devs make it nigh impossible as a solo or casual player, that dramatically decreases incentive to log in very often. The less I log in, the less likely I am to complete even the keeping-up-with-the-joneses world content, save maybe one toon; that inability to even keep up itself becoming a disincentive. I might as well subscribe for only one month per season and accept the meh but adequate welcome-back gear, and give up the completionist goals for mogs, mounts, and even pets (dang it all). Just writing this comment has made me realize how much of the game I've given up trying to play, the parts that kept me playing continuously (but for some illnesses) for the last 17.5 years. I suppose I could also stop buying xpacs, just play as a completionist on all the older content as it becomes base content. Doesn't appear to me the soundest business model. I hope all the great accountwide changes and delves in 11.0 make solo play fun again for us shy people who have historically relied on guilds to access content.

Loved crafting in DF. Made some gold but most crafts were for my alts. But the recipe farming on multiple reps was bad , im happy its gone

Thank you so much for this!

The most I did in dragonflight was gathering herbs. I gave up trying to figure out crafting. It was bad enough messing up levelling my alts cos I didn’t know the idea was to max one BEFORE starting with your alts to make their levelling easier. But hopefully between the delves, solo dungeons and the crafting Ill have a reason to log in more often rather than waiting for an addon idea or bug to fix rofl.

Thanks for considering the casual/solo crafter. My big gripe with DF crafting was that it was oriented towards the MMO gold making factory approach to crafting. Whereas all I want is the RPG approach of gather mats, make gear and get transmog appearances for myself and alts. I made the DF system work for me by just putting points in to unlock every recipe so I could make everything. I didn’t worry about trying to max every craft cuz who cares about a little bit less ilvl when you’re a fecking casual player anyway 😂. By the way it would be great if you could show the armour and weapon appearances that the crafting professions unlock. I haven’t found anywhere yet that shows these.

Holy shit is this what crafting looks like now? It was so different and simple back when I used to do it during the TBC/Wrath era 😅

I came back to WoW in Dragonflight after quitting at the end of Mists, so I had 5 characters with all the main professions coved and one dedicated gatherer (mining/herbing) most of whom were in my own guild, so that crafted goods could be passed around between alts for use or disenchanted for mats. Same with crafting orders for the Knowledge points.

I gave up on crafting in df like 2 weeks after launch lol

Valiant effort explaining My strat? Pick the quickest & simplest professions once again until the expansion they finally make Knowledge points abundant. Cba with their tooltips and one-chance mechanics

Professions were best in BC and WotLK. Professions in dragonflight are ridiculous.

Yeap, another pack I will be completely ignoring crafting all together.

You will also use the blue artisan currency to make your persist through death food. (small amounts, 1 per food)

Does some crafting still have location requirements (like how leatherworkers and alchemists needed to go into Brackentide Hollow to craft things at the toxic alter)

Explain to me why I should craft anything? I can just spam some mythic plus and get gear that’s better than anything crafted and take less than a week to do it instead of waiting on a time gate to make a shield in 2 weeks.

We need cross server crafting orders within the warband!!

I also gave up In Dragonflight. This does seem better, but I’ll rewatch later on my PC. On my phone it’s impossible to see what you’re doing

Do you know if you will be able to fill orders from other servers like everything else is going to be cross realm?

did bliz already remove the crafting mat vendors? i can not find them anywhere in org

The professions are still hella complicated and I have no idea what is going on, I want simplicity, " x amount of ore will give you badass weapon" Get rid of the extra nitty gritty details

You make great videos. The things that turned me off in Dragonflight was the time gating and the dependency of the order system were there wasn’t any. They do need to find better end game systems for people who are solo. I do occasionally play with the wife but I’m in no guild and not looking for one. I can’t commit as I play many games and you never know if an emergency pops up at work.

I heard something about being a master crafter by concentrating on one spec tree for example tailoring..I want to craft my own gear but they don't allow you to do all your gear just maybe 4 out of 8 pieces...do you think that will change..?..

I never could figure out the crafting orders (doing them as a crafter). So, I am sure I missed out on stuff, but it didn’t affect my experience.

The explanation and such is appreciated Soul, but my issue with current (and also TWW) crafting is that such an explanation is needed in the first place. It's too much. It's not intuitive. The system overwhelms players and that's not a sign of a good system, imo.

Crafting items for yourself is a major W for a lot of players. If I can suggest one thing, is to maybe do a video to show what to do to get a full set (all slots at least) of crafted gear. This would require a few alts, but in theory (based on this video) you could gear up your warband using alts right? Right? Maybe do a BS + tailor (for cape) + enchanter + engineer for a belt ? It would be awesome if players could geer up by themselves using only professions, in a non extreme farming way.

i did some research in the blacksmithing beta and what i have seen is if u craft armor plate boots it dont cost a spark i think its a bug not sure els i would def go to armor and unlock boots first so u can get to 100 skill easy

using the first two weeks to level my top 4 toons and blast professions as well as I can

Did you notice that in order to make an ironclaw alloy you are required to use an ironclaw alloy? How exactly does that work?

Any info how many recipes will be hidden behind factions rep?

I would be happy if I could gear up just from crafting itself and not be locked ONLY with two items, as it make whole crafting rework a pointless endevor.

personally i thought that Dragonflight was REALLY good, my issue came with the catchup, which SPOILER ALERT was a pile of ass... for most Profs if you were behind, your only means of catchup was farming Humanoids for RNG Drops, rather than do stuff regarding to your Profession/s. absolutely huge fail, but now Blizzard has proposed something that i feel is going to be the IDEAL setting for Profs here on out, at least for a while. here's hoping that Blizz agrees with this and doesnt go back to the previous method.

As long as this doesn't resemble a pendulum (again); for DF, they went a bit too far with professions, now I fear they will go a bit too far in the opposite direction and make it trivial again..

am i the only one that thought professions were just fine pre dragonflight? was simple, straight forward. not everything in the game has to be a game itself. dunno maybe im just old, more complex doesnt = fun for me. you want to spice up professions, make them fun, make the actual collection of gatherables, or the making of armor etc the game, not the skill trees or rng. appreciate the vid though.

I didnt play DF, this is so confusing but i do have all professions capped up until DF. Time to grind till TWW i guess lol

Will crafting be irrelevant now? S3 and s4 really nerffed crafted gear. Will the ilvl still be low?

@soulsobreezy Does racial crafting bonus matter in war within?

Tailoring is a bit messed up. I decided to spec into Quality Cloth and Efficient Threading in beta...there is no recipe that will take me to level 75. I managed to craft the unique equip reagent bag to get to level 60 but they turned green at around level 50. I am going to have to start over with tailoring. I do not see any other way to make it to level 75.

They announced the next 3 expansions as a trilogy...kinda. Will crafting progress from TWW be carried over to the next two parts of the Saga? I always had the feeling that crafting is pointless if you loose all progress in the next xpac. unless you simply enjoy it.

Yes, massive improvements, agreed… so after relentlessly beating us bloody during Dragonflight, they are only going to beat us every other day… what a relief! By the time Blizzard will allow you to make that shield, there will be a better one already in the game, usually through easy content, meaning all that work was really for nothing… crafted gear rarely exceeds game gear and ALWAYS isn’t available until it’s useless… when Blizzard solves this problem, AND makes crafting where it’s relatively easy to figure out if it’s profitable, this is nothing more than hazing, nothing more than taking up my valuable time, and nothing more than turning the game into a pay-to-play… the system is designed to appeal to influencers who can play all day, not for those balancing jobs, school, relationships, and families. It is unnecessarily complex… simplifying the process should be their goal, not just renaming abuse, just to make me feel good about being only beaten about the shoulders vice being beaten about the head and shoulders!

that was a very very long explanation of how new inspiration aka concentration works man :P

I see that the higher level gear pieces are still BoP. I realise a lot of people make all their crafts useable by the character thta makes them but I foolishly back in the early days made my characters learn crafts tht just happened to be ones I didnt have already and gave them to any old character. So I have a Paladin leatherworker and a druid blacksmith (which I dont want to change as they have a bunch of very old patterns). So obviously they can make the purples in the learning phase but not use them for themselves. There is thankfully still the order system and I wonder if warbands make any easier to do that rather than having to swap in and out of characters to put in orders.

I appreciate the walkthrough of your mindset in just being able to craft a shield. Explaining the logic and error of your ways as you go. When i did professions i put points into efficiencies and resource return types of nodes.

I still don't get it... I literally maxed out every profession except engineering (and that's only because most of it isn't needed so higher recipes have gone unmaked). It was simple to do. Between the crafter's weekly quest(s) and the crafter orders it was simple. I just had my enchanter send out work orders to all my crafting alts, made the gear and had her disenchant it. Also doing DMF every month helped with the 3 profession points and knowledge point for nearly free points.

I think the only part of your eperiment that I don't agree with, is the idea that a solo crafter only want to learn to make one single piece of armor, and not a set. So yeah, you can pump everything you can get from first crafts and about as much more and craft a pretty good shield. But you also can't craft any of the other armor pieces, or weapons, or tools. So yeah, it seems somewhat feasible... if you hyperspecialize in crafting one single item. And that feels more like a goldmaker thing than a self-sufficient crafter thing.

guys I have 24 hours game time and I can’t pay for another month… any idea how can I make quick gold? I have 120k and I tried running old dungeons but takes a lot of time and the gains are not good enough :( no trolls please my kids want to play and I just can’t pay for it. Thank.

Just return to the classic system. First time in DF I didn't craft at all.

Having to do crafting orders is dead easy; just send them from alts.

Igh, its still a drag tbh

They 100% fucked up crafting professions in dragonflight. They made it to complicated and way to time extensive. I just gave up and bought tokens whenever i need gold.

Dragon flight crafting was a fcking nightmare omg guess you can see I hated it

Crafting in retail- no thank you!

mmm koolaid.... doing work man, thanks for it

I hear this every expansion and it's bs every time. I hope I'm wrong.

@esedelasfotos , this answer won't solve your problems right now, but , level up on cataclysm, and each week organize your raids and hard reserve all of the boes, you will be able to pay for subscription this way for a year + in 2-3 weeks , where you just clear content normally. hope it makes sense for you ;) i have made in one week, where i shared the profits with a friend ( although lucky run -40k per person) which is like 4 tokens.

easier means less profit means no one will be able to make gold easier and it will become hell grindfest.. to me this is bad changes

so bloated and needless ... can see they saw FF professions and thought they needed to complecate things..... difference is FF professions are amazingly simple but expansive.... wows are just a cluster fuck of nonsence -_____________- absolute L #