MASTER your cymbal stands! 

Thank you! Most of this content is inspired by my students - issues I've seen time after time with young and/or inexperienced players. Hopefully it helps a few people!

Both of you are correct. And what is correct is sacred.😊

#ocd💥🥁👍

I thought all drummers are ocd🤷🏻‍♂️😂🥁…. I certainly am

Guilty as charged! I use color coded tape to mark extensions and Sharpies to mark boom and tilter angles (on stands that don’t have memory locks) - my excuse is I have a very large set and remembering them all just isn’t practical (but I’m still at least a bit OCD)!

Ah! Another thing I wish I'd thought of. Good call! Thank you!

@@CommonSenseMusician It's all good. You can always do a Part 2!

There are so many good ideas in these comments, part 2 is definitely going to be a thing.

@@CommonSenseMusician Definitely!

​@@CommonSenseMusician Then I got another tip for loosen tight hardware. I got two techniques: Tight: hold the wing with you weak hand (as if you're gonna turn it), then with your thumb of your stronger hand press on your other thumb. Very tight: use a leverage with your sticks. In both scenarios also don't forget to have control in this motion and hold the stand, otherwise your skin can trapped between it and that hurts.

Very kind of you to say! Thank you!

It reminds me of the episode of The Simpsons when Homer and Marge lose custody of the kids and have to attend night school. "For god's sake, put your garbage in a garbage can" and all that. It's amazing how uncommon common sense can be.

@@jc3drums916 This is the first Simpsons reference on my RU-vid channel. I applaud you!

No one says that

@@jc3drums916 "Kids, we're good parents now! GET YOUR ASSES OUT HERE!"

Thank you! I've got a bunch more in the works that hopefully will help, too. Thanks for stopping by!

Thank you! I'm glad you stopped by!

Thank you for the thoughtful comment and kind words. I do have a couple of the newer 700 series stands with the straight tilter. I like them a lot (I'm generally a fan of Yamaha hardware, anyway!). They seem to have found the right balance between features and simplicity. Thank you for stopping by!

I'm glad they're helping! Thank you!

Great point. I will definitely be making a part 2 at some point, and I'll be including this. Thank you for stopping by!

@@CommonSenseMusician another one is over extending the boom. Not using cymbal sleeves. Not loosening wing nuts before adjusting causing it to be stripped.

This is the one I see with my students the most: not loosening the wing nuts before adjusting. It drives me crazy. Definitely needs to be mentioned in part 2 of this video! Thanks agian.@@Destinydividedband

That is a great lesson, indeed! Thanks for stopping by!

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thank you!

That's a fair point. I hate the random rattles and buzzes from drum gear.

Seems like keeping everything tightened would clear this up

Seriously. If you treat it well, Yamaha is nearly bulletproof. The stand in my video is over 20 years old. Thanks for stopping by!

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for stopping by!

Thank you!

Thanks so much! Yeah, that last scene was not intentional, but I laughed HARD so I decided to include it. Thanks for stopping by.

@@CommonSenseMusician ... here is my wish list of topics you might wanna talk about: 1. Drumchairs 2. Snarestands 3. Racksystems 4. Mounting of percussion instruments such as cowbells 5. Drumcases All the best, I am very interested in your thoughts about this stuff.

@@timdrummer Videos coming up - a couple of those were already on my list. Thank you again!

Absolutely. It might be my favorite crash that I’ve ever owned. Thanks for stopping by!

@@CommonSenseMusician I have one that’s been on my kit since they first came out.

The old stuff is sometimes the best stuff!

Thank you!

Seriously! This video was inspired by exactly what you’re talking about. I see these problems all the time. Thanks for stopping by!

What is a palm tree mode? :)

That refers to having the legs out all the way.

Nice! Let me know when you make a video with your tips and hacks! Thanks for stopping by!

G&E crew prefer to keep the boom and C-stand arms as vertical as possible so that nothing gets snagged on them, right? I think I remember my instructor saying that in film school. Seems applicable to cymbals booms.

@@aidan6083 and always make sure there's a leg under the weight.

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thank you!

This is an excellent point. I’ll definitely include this information in a future video. Thank you!

@@CommonSenseMusician You are welcome. I really enjoyed this video you made, short and straight to the point(s). I am actually a newbie drummer and I've been playing drums for just two years. So don't really have a lot of drumming experience. Recently I decided to get a set of budget brass cymbals, (Paiste pst3's) but knowing brass tends to crack more easily than bronze, I am now going through the web trying to absorb all the know-how about what to do to make the cymbals last as long as possible. And this search included the non-drum related content such as papers on material science and vibration. It was a lot of ground to cover so I hope it pays off. This was one of the conclusions I extrapolated by connecting the different dots I accidentally discovered when the search got me to a point where I somehow ended up checking out architecture summaries on combating the wind and earthquakes effect on long bridges and tall skyscrapers. I learned that it's not just about how you strike the cymbal to prevent it from cracking, it's equally about proper dissipation of vibrational forces. Sorry for making this reply longer than I wanted. I'll stop now. 🙂 Cheers

Definitely worth mentioning, maybe in a part 2 of this video. Thanks again!

Seems reasonable to me. Thanks for stopping by!

Absolutely! I'm not a terribly hard hitter, but I've seen them fly off before. Thanks for stopping by!

I’m a no wing nut guy but when I have to use one I always use one of them

@@lukeparsons4965 I've tried to play with no wing nut or top felt, and it honestly feels and sounds great (I mostly play jazz), but I can't get over the visual. Maybe I like the security of knowing the cymbal isn't going anywhere? I'll have to give it another try.

They work perfectly with Tama Cymbal Stands. Trust me, they are awesome. I play them while practicing and live gigs. Never had a problem at all.

I have all Yamaha cymbal stands, and I've never had a problem, either. Also, the Tama locks don't rattle, but the Yamaha wing nuts do. @@dirksommerfeld559

Thank you! I'm hoping to fill in as many knowledge gaps as I can. Thanks for stopping by.

Ah! Thank you!

This is my number one goal. Thank you!

Fair point. At the end of the day, do what works for you! Thanks for stopping by!

Good call! I'll have to check those out. Thanks!

Nice catch! Yeah, I’ve been trying to troubleshoot that for a while. I think it might actually be a loose connection inside the actual docking station I’m using. I’ll keep working on it. Thanks for stopping by!

@@CommonSenseMusician No prob lol. I figured there was no way you hadn't been running into the problem, but figured i'd say something anyway. Good luck on fixing it ^_^

Thanks!

Indeed! I think I'd still care about my cymbals even if they were free/cheap, though. Thanks for stopping by!

Seriously! It always bugs me when people fold the tilters in all the way. Waste of time, in my opinion. Thanks for stopping by!

Maybe to protect the male threads from being damaged in transport, or from punching a hole through the fabric if kept in a bag.

Yeah, that’s a good thought. If it’s already a tight fit, that would definitely be something to look out for.

This is an excellent point, and I’ll definitely mention it in a future video. Thanks for the comment!

Ha! Fair question. I’m a high school band teacher. Those babies reach out and grab kids on the regular. Thanks for stopping by!

Great points. Tom mounting is on my list of videos to make - thanks for the suggestion!

Thanks!

Yeah! I hadn't thought of that, but it's totally true. Thank you!

If I understand you correctly, you’re exactly right. The cymbal shouldn’t be in direct contact with the threads on the center post. That can definitely damage the hole. Good call!

That is a great point. And the Yamaha stands seem to rattle the worst. That's a great solution - I'll have to give it a try! In lower volume settings, sometimes I'll just take off the nut and the top felt.

I’m not at all a heavy hitter, but as a rule I use the wing nuts on any cymbals 16” or under. I’m usually switching out my larger crashes or rides so much that I don’t bother with the wing nuts. Just subscribed - I’m excited to see what else you have to say!

@@craigwilliams501 Thank you!

Thanks for the sub! More videos coming up soon!

Thank you!

I 100% agree. The threading is massive overkill, and it causes them to break more than they should, especially in the hands of a student. Sounds like you have a great solution. Thanks for stopping by!

I love to hear it. Thanks for stopping by!

Right! I work with students in high schools, and these are things I see all the time. It's just a lack of awareness, I think.

It's much more stable with the legs flatter, the footprint is bigger. My ride would tip over with the legs at 45°

Out of curiosity, how big is your ride cymbal?@@elroundo

@CommonSenseMusician I've got loads I'm a cymbal nut lol But even a 20" with the boom out, so it's in between my toms, would tip the way you're suggesting. I agree with everything else you've said tbh, just not the legs at 45°

@@elroundo Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, a 20 out on the boom would definitely need wider legs. Good call!

Looks like I need to make a part 2. Thanks for stopping by!

You're not wrong! Thanks for stopping by!

Ha!

I thinks so, too. But it's amazing how many people need a little clarification. Thanks for stopping by!

I completely agree. Cymbal angle is one of the biggest problems I see with young / inexperienced drummers. Thanks for stopping by!

Why get one? Drummer of over 34 years performing experience here: Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

That is well said. Completely agree.

Yes. You're exactly right. Thanks for stopping by!

This made my day. Happy to have given you something you didn't know! Thanks for stopping by.

Bestimmt!

I mean, you're not wrong.

Ha! Absolutely. Thanks for stopping by.

I see every single one of these almost daily, unfortunately.

@@CommonSenseMusicianman...that's concerning. most of it is just common sense. than again, we're talking about drummers here lol

Ha! True.

You nailed it. I've been a high school band director for many years, and a lot of my videos are inspired by the things I see students do repeatedly - not only my own students, but at almost every school I visit. If you're an experienced pro, you do you. Not my place to tell you how to handle your hardware! Thanks for stopping by.

Fair point! This particular video was shot just on my iPhone, so the sound is kind of garbage. The later videos are better, and hopefully my next ones will be even better than that. Thanks for stopping by!

I have my Bluetooth speaker volume at 80% and the youtube volume slider bar at 40%. Your hearing must be really bad! Telling him to do better, When you could have protected your hearing and done better is idiotic.

To the OP - GOOD in-ear monitors are your friend (as long as you run them at reasonable levels). Between playing drums since I was ten (upper 50’s now) and being a pilot (light training aircraft are LOUD), I know I’ve raised my baseline. You don’t have to spend this much, but I dropped over a grand on a set of professional in-ears (Weston’s EAS-30s, which allow some ambient sound in). Absolutely one of the best investments I’ve made musically - I just wish they’d had them 40-some years ago. Once you’re hearing is shot, it’s not coming back, and if it’s damaged, even more reason to save what you have. CommonSenseMusician - I hope this is something that’s taught now, as it really wasn’t much of a consideration when I came up. I undoubtedly saved much of my hearing by often (but not always) using simple foam earplugs when playing in louder settings. Thanks for listening (pardon the pun)!

This is such good advice. I need to make a video about protecting your hearing as a musician, and as just a person in the modern world. Thank you for your thoughtful comment!

That is the most metal response to a video I have ever received.