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MASTERING SECRETS: BAND SELECTIVE vs MULTIBAND COMPRESSION - One of the REAL Secrets of Mastering 

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@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
Get Weiss DS1-MK3 bit.ly/38KZkJX ATTENTION: BEFORE ASKING "YOU CAN DO IT WITH SUCH AND SUCH WITH SIDECHAIN FILTER: ***WATCH THIS -> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5PA0vXHa7Rw.html it's basic stuff. Like REALLY basic, don't even get near mastering if you don't know stuff like this. Join the channel to get access all the videos: bit.ly/2SNX8bx Bella Kelly's Single/Video Throat: bit.ly/3dxeJOf
@joost3783
@joost3783 3 года назад
luca pretolesi is a master of sidechain inserting EQ's to emphasize midrange with limiters and compressors for anyone interested in gaining more knownledge on this
@Phat-Monkey
@Phat-Monkey 3 года назад
@@joost3783 Luca is the Jedi Master of Jedi Masters ;)
@relaxmax6808
@relaxmax6808 2 года назад
Where should i find the second part ? thank you
@relaxmax6808
@relaxmax6808 2 года назад
i just find it !
@upnhere8513
@upnhere8513 Год назад
Where's part deux?
@Sonmz
@Sonmz Год назад
Wow! What I love about your channel is that you can see videos like this on it. You give answers to very specific questions, which nonetheless arise for so many people involved in mixing and mastering.
@RockstarRecStudio
@RockstarRecStudio 3 года назад
This channel is priceless, every video is pure gold. Thank you David! Hope you're recovering well
@minttrax
@minttrax 3 года назад
agreed 150%!!!
@rrs731
@rrs731 3 года назад
must.see.part.2 :D you rock! thank you so much for this. WIsh you a speedy recovery!
@AlexeySolovievMusic
@AlexeySolovievMusic 3 года назад
I can't thank you enough David for all the wonderful work you do on this channel, every video from you is a gold mine!
@loracle_a_la_prod
@loracle_a_la_prod 3 года назад
That's crazy man . Definitely waiting de 2nd part . Thanks a lot 🙏🏾
@kelainefes
@kelainefes 3 года назад
Excellent video, the Weiss DS-1 Mk3 seems like a great plugin, I use DMG Compassion to do selective band compression, it has LP filters and even more options like asymmetrical bandbass (ie HP and LP filters can be independently set from to 6 to 24 dB/oct), variable RMS window, a transient processor, a gain reduction limiter with a curve, and various ways to shape the attack, release and compression curves. The downside is that the number of parameters is much higher and it might take more time to fine tune everything. Can't wait for part 2... Oh wait it's already up!!!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
yes it it!
@greedokenobi3855
@greedokenobi3855 3 года назад
Your videos are the best! Learning more from your videos than from anybody else! 🙌
@seanemmettfullerton
@seanemmettfullerton 3 года назад
David, thank you. You are a gifted and sensitive artist... Yes yes yes, I used this plugin only once but was totally blown away. Soooooo very powerful. Thanks again :)
@Jobo47
@Jobo47 3 года назад
Finally producing one of my own bands songs for a change and this is super helpful, your knowledge is GAME CHANGING, thank you so much!
@alexgregory1427
@alexgregory1427 2 года назад
is it?
@psysword
@psysword Год назад
@@alexgregory1427 ha ha
@minttrax
@minttrax 3 года назад
I still have a way to go before Im at trhe stage of buying bits of kit like this and then actually knowing how to use them effectively but its so much fun to watch what can be achieved with the right direction and a little bit of no nonsense advice from real proffessionals,,, cheers again David fantastic content, I will say membership is worth every penny!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
Thank you!!
@AMB666
@AMB666 3 года назад
Seriously, smart and clever work right there!!! I can't believe that this video exists!! Thanks man.
@heeydado
@heeydado 3 года назад
Awesome video David, and very professional, thank you. 👍
@yoe91
@yoe91 3 года назад
this guy has such an appreciation for mixing you feel happy with him when he's got that half a smirk and is all like "can you hear how that top end opens up". I bet he's a good mate out to get drunk with. Another good video, going to try this out.
@AkashGamana
@AkashGamana 2 года назад
This was helpful! Sold me on the Weiss!!!! I'm excited to pair this with my Neve MBP. Thanks!
@Jhonatan5
@Jhonatan5 3 года назад
Man, that was awesome! Love this channel, thanks for sharing!
@micheldevries7975
@micheldevries7975 3 года назад
Honestly, this is the best engineering vid I have seen on yt so far. 20 yrs ago I did the SAE course, it was magic and fun and obviously mastering was covered, but not like this. Thank you
@alexgregory1427
@alexgregory1427 2 года назад
20 years ago things were different... so this is to be expected.
@PeterWayneAudio
@PeterWayneAudio 3 года назад
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing these great tips.
@abru8699
@abru8699 3 года назад
WoW fantastic, I have study sound but I’m learning more with you than with all my professor in 3 years at uni, loving all your videos so far , so helpful. Grazie
@depostarecords8215
@depostarecords8215 3 года назад
that plugin is the magic!, gretting from Argentina
@MatthewRecko
@MatthewRecko 3 года назад
Good stuff man. I learned a lot. Cheers from Jersey
@juanreales986
@juanreales986 2 года назад
Insane... I never thought something like this would be possible.. thank you lots!
@StudioBuster
@StudioBuster 2 года назад
I like your videos! Good explanation and practical demonstration in one! Thanks!
@mikeymadeit9990
@mikeymadeit9990 2 года назад
Finally pulled the trigger on joining! Looking forward to leveling up my mix game even more!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 2 года назад
Welcome to the team!
@mixinginthebox
@mixinginthebox 3 года назад
Wow, amazing info ty. Time to DEMO DS1-MK3.
@DystinctMusic
@DystinctMusic 3 года назад
Another exceptional video. The DS-1, Waves C6 and LMB are three of our favourite plugins. Truly professional results here. Subscribe!
@jeroenfensmusic
@jeroenfensmusic Год назад
This was a VERY informative video! Thank you so much!
@ajja
@ajja 3 года назад
One of the best things I ever did was to buy the Weiss mastering bundle. Absolutely amazing.
@ArguZ72
@ArguZ72 3 года назад
Not many understand there are still superior plugins.... looks are nothing...
@wesleyleigh4063
@wesleyleigh4063 3 года назад
So are you able to explain how it actually differs from the Fabfilter Pro MB or Waves LMB? like there was no explanation whatsoever here and he just did exactly what you would do in both those plugins? Pls endeavour to overcome your cognitive dissonance here and be honest.
@audiopostguy
@audiopostguy 3 года назад
Great video as always!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
🙏
@lmpcrew
@lmpcrew 3 года назад
Sick David 🔥💣💥🙌🏾👌🏾
@LKV089
@LKV089 3 года назад
I love how you turn off the bypass at 15:26 , hear how clear the high end gets and then start smiling, I exactly had the same reaction 😂
@slavesforging5361
@slavesforging5361 3 года назад
wow great video. that thing was pure magic on the high end. and it's so great that it's a digital 1:1 copy of the hardware unit! that makes so much sense, but is very rarely ever done. reading some of these comments was painful. i totally get people who don't understand everything about what makes this unit different and asking questions. what i don't understand is people that don't understand it, yet claim that high end professional mastering engineers are wrong. smh. thanks for the great video David. You're amazing!
@alexgregory1427
@alexgregory1427 2 года назад
rarely done, because many digital hardware boxes are obsolete, and there are not that many worth copying over. it's pretty easy to port over code actually.
@avocadomasher1390
@avocadomasher1390 3 года назад
You are my new teacher!
@GarryOwens
@GarryOwens 3 года назад
Love the Weiss!! Great vid 👍
@imno1_tekno
@imno1_tekno 3 года назад
Hi David! Thanks for this. You might want to check Harrison Consoles AVA Spectral Compressor. After watching this video I believe that it is a band selective and also I understood how to use it because I had no clue 😅
@TheEpicBadGerComposer
@TheEpicBadGerComposer 3 года назад
It's mind-blowing! I love your content! Thank you very much for sharing all this knowledge! This is the first channel of which I've become a member. Speaking of which - I'm dying to see part II (members only). Could you please point me to the right direction? I can't find it anywhere. :S Edit: Ignore me, I'm new to this membership stuff. Found it!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
Welcome to the family!
@maxwelldubnet
@maxwelldubnet 3 года назад
never said this before (been producing for 10 years) and that Weiss plugin is a true game changer
@XDarkstarXUnknownUnderverse
Thank you for the tip.. I am going to try this with the splitter tool in studio one.
@chucknkd
@chucknkd 3 года назад
at least I don't have to go spend $$ for the plug, already have it:-) cause I def would after seeing this. again you have taken a complicated plugin and made it much easier to understand. thank you! joining
@districtunderground5032
@districtunderground5032 Год назад
You are a great teacher, inspiring and enlightening !! Тhank you
@graziabenocci5366
@graziabenocci5366 3 года назад
GREAT DAVID!!!
@reavismitchell6031
@reavismitchell6031 2 года назад
Nice info man! Thanks a lot. I'll check this plug out.
@Kihilbill
@Kihilbill Год назад
❤ thanks mixbus, that’s a great tip !
@midnightsocean2689
@midnightsocean2689 2 года назад
You the man David. Taking the mystery out of the magic.
@albertorobinson7611
@albertorobinson7611 3 года назад
Sr thanks you so much, highly appreciated
@Bonzvy
@Bonzvy 3 года назад
Wow! Simply wow!
@troeteimarsch
@troeteimarsch 3 года назад
HOLY COW! this really is it!
@gaudinni
@gaudinni 3 года назад
Thanks David!
@estebanmansilla9137
@estebanmansilla9137 2 года назад
Genial video, excelente explicación!!
@BrunoSanson
@BrunoSanson 2 года назад
Awesome!! Thanks for share!!
@nebstaism
@nebstaism 3 года назад
I was literally just thinking the other day.. I wonder if they had this Weiss hardware unit as a plug-in and then I stumble across this video... I wanna buy this asap
@itsyoshman
@itsyoshman 3 года назад
great channel!
@dyonissiszoes3747
@dyonissiszoes3747 2 года назад
It even adds power 😳. Incredible!
@edenghemar1137
@edenghemar1137 3 года назад
So useful !! THX
@lordmarrowgar
@lordmarrowgar 2 года назад
You can compress any frequency with a dynamic eq like nova or q3 and then pull up this frequency by few db on another eq. I call it to ''hang up'' a frequency. Also thanks for vid man, gotta check that ds1 stuff.
@audiokemestry
@audiokemestry 3 года назад
Great work. Still rockin' with the Sonnox Surpressor on this end (which is also linear phase) and Waves Linear Phase MB (although the GUI still sucks).
@buddhabinaural
@buddhabinaural Год назад
No way. I'm the total opposite. I love the Waves GUI. Everything in one place without huge on screen pots. I wish all interfaces were like Waves oldies. Plugin Alliance drove me mad with those giant pictures of hardware.
@Middlestepofficial
@Middlestepofficial 3 года назад
Always better to fix the issues during recording whenever possible. If something is too bassy (like the guitar), then I tend to reduce the low end and record again. This helps in my workflow very much and speeds up the finalizing of the track. Kick not beefy enough? Add a subkick and tune it lower instead of trying to pump it with parallel compression only. Simple steps tend to work best in my case. As I remember you said once in one video: "If you come to the point to use a multiband compressor, then you might have done something wrong before that"
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
Yes, buy my vids don't assume one does everything by him/herself, which is not really how it's supposed to be, I receive tracks to mix and mix to master from my clients, so videos are for mixing and some like this course for mastering z assuming the normal flow of a production when you can't do any of the above.
@Middlestepofficial
@Middlestepofficial 3 года назад
@@mixbustv Right, I agree. In reality you may be getting messed up tracks and that's where your knowledge shines the best, how to pull out the most from the given situation. Keep up the good work, your content is one of the best out here on YT! Cheers :)
@olivierclasse
@olivierclasse 3 года назад
Whaoooo very very usefull thanks 😊
@gabsauvage
@gabsauvage 3 года назад
Really interesting!! Thanks :)
@MeanTrainingMachine
@MeanTrainingMachine 3 года назад
This is awesome, setting up membership, I want to see part2!
@imatt888
@imatt888 3 года назад
PART 2!!!
@PharaohLawLess1
@PharaohLawLess1 3 года назад
Another great video
@minttrax
@minttrax 3 года назад
agreed !!!!
@Sundaydrumday
@Sundaydrumday Год назад
LOL AT THE END WHEN YOU HIT THAT HIGH END DETAIL, THAT WAS COOL AS FUCK LOL.....THIS WAS A GOOD VIDEO
@wesleyleigh4063
@wesleyleigh4063 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. How is this different to Pro MB? Like... you're picking a frequency band and then applying compression? I'm really struggling to see the difference. Also something that should be mentioned is that MB Compression or limiting isn't often used because it wasn't often used in the past, and so the eventual effect it has isn't too familiar or pleasant. Also because it's basically a wide curve EQ cut or boost but with an onset determined by the attack, it has a similar effect of dampening the sound, or applying a non-naturally occurring shape in the frequency range.
@marceloribeirosimoes8959
@marceloribeirosimoes8959 2 года назад
GREAT! Stunding means 350 buck and a lot of time tweaking... And I must say, great song used in this video. Thank you very much!!!
@marstispinge
@marstispinge 3 года назад
THANK YOU SO MUCH 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@RobertCow
@RobertCow 3 года назад
Nice! Great explaination
@bongzilla8063
@bongzilla8063 3 года назад
The GOAT 🔥💯
@FLEXSON_007
@FLEXSON_007 Год назад
great videos thanks!
@MarkoStevMusic
@MarkoStevMusic 3 года назад
I wonder, does TDR Nova qualify as 'band selective parallel compressor'? Great video. That top end!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
It's a dynamic eq
@akagerhard
@akagerhard 3 года назад
I can't see the difference to a linear multiband compressor. As long as you have a gain-knob for each band this is pretty much the same (okay, if you want to do parallel processing you'll have to set that up). But logically there is no difference. You choose a band. You compress it, you boost it. Maybe I'm not seeing something here, but from where I'm standing that's it. It may be a very great and clean compressor, but basically it's a compressor which you sidechained to only affect a specific area (without compressing the other frequencies AT ALL ... not like many internal sidechain-functions for wideband compressors).
@alexgregory1427
@alexgregory1427 2 года назад
exactly how it works! Mann muss die Dinge ja nicht überkompliziert machen!
@urasoul
@urasoul 2 года назад
I would definitely be interested to know how this unit differs from linear multiband compression, yes..
@heddshot87
@heddshot87 Год назад
He already talked about it, the phasing, the linear one isn't pure magic, it still phases.
@immunityoffate
@immunityoffate 3 года назад
Awesome video. How does this compare to the BSS DPR 402 compressor, or just compressing one band of a linear phase multi band compressor? Am I wrong to think that they all would do a very close job?
@matrixate
@matrixate 3 года назад
Really inspiring. That plugin definitely separates the hobbyist from the professional. $550 retail and $400 on sale.
@briancase6180
@briancase6180 3 года назад
I just checked (Feb 7), it's $29.
@fernandoherrerabastidas
@fernandoherrerabastidas 3 года назад
@@briancase6180 where was that?
@rallzam
@rallzam 2 года назад
@@fernandoherrerabastidas in his dream
@Barncore
@Barncore 3 года назад
Dude if this is the kinda content that's in your members only section then i need to get in on that
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
Yep it is, and more
@Fitzleking
@Fitzleking 3 года назад
I know you've shown an example with multi band compression, but what is the difference between what you've done vs doing the same things/settings with multi-band compression by just compression the low band? Great video as usual :)
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
The juice is in part2
@mrmorpheus9707
@mrmorpheus9707 Год назад
Another great video..... thanx
@christianbiend4458
@christianbiend4458 3 года назад
Yo David i don’t care if the vidéo is sponsored or not i’m here to learn and you help a lot of people like me and many thanx for a great content👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿 you rock
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
It's not, in fact, I got in touch with Softube after it was done and uploaded just to get them on board with a discount for people, go figure. And no I don't get anything if you (anyone) buy it. I have my members, members make it so I don't need to. I made this course because this is one of the tools I (and many other engineers) use in mastering and as mentioned, you will not find an in depth use of these anywhere on youtube.
@jmula1963
@jmula1963 3 года назад
@@mixbustv in your course is the pt. 2 of this the only video where you cover DS1 or do you go in-depth in other videos too? Paying for MyMixLab rn with Luca & Reid and their content is kinda like a lot of beginner stuff.
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
@@jmula1963 well 😄 I ain't gonna comment on that. No, that is the only video, I think I might have used it in another couple of vids briefly but they're all members only
@infectropodo
@infectropodo 3 года назад
Great vídeo David! Can I ask what exactly is the difference between this technique and using a normal compressor/limiter with side chain filtering? Is it the same? I learn a lot with your videos, specially mastering stuff. Thank you so much!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
No it's not, understand internal sidechain first, then watch part 2 if you want to learn more ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5PA0vXHa7Rw.html
@LaPlant_Mastering
@LaPlant_Mastering 3 года назад
Hey David. Long time fan here. I just wanted to point out that there's a gain compensation in most of (if not all) mb compressors. Compressing the low end by 3-4db, with the right attack/release sertings will not necessarily introduce distortion. After that, put that gain back and you're good to go. Can't really tell what Weiss is doing differently in this example.
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
It's safe to say that I know what a multiband compressor does :D it's not the same, and I know many won't hear the difference or it'll take time to understand, that comes with use, real use, mastering every day, different material, for clients, and mastering is about the most minute details - as opposed to slamming as much as possible as it's done in home mastering, that's why part2 is for members only. Hearing the difference on 1 example means nothing, just like A/B tests means nothing. Work with this unit/plugin long enough, spend time with it and then tell me. This is just HALF of one function I'm explaining here, half of one, the second part goes a lot more in depth and detail but, again, this is an advanced course, "how to use delay on vocal" would be easier to hear :D
@LaPlant_Mastering
@LaPlant_Mastering 3 года назад
@@mixbustv yeah, i guess it's not easy to hear the difference in this one example. I'll try to demo the unit myself. Cheers.
@launchpadmcquack98
@launchpadmcquack98 2 года назад
15:54 Daddy mixbus perfectly comping himself plugging himself.
@Nyhde
@Nyhde 3 года назад
When you applied that makeup gain on the low end, my jaw dropped. When you did it for the high end, I pretty much started saving money. Even as a plugin, that's not cheap. But it just may be worth the cash. Thanks for another great video!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
Glad you liked it. Softube gave me an exclusive discount for this the code is PROSMASTERWITHWEISS The voucher code will be active from Nov 16th till Nov 22nd. The voucher code will give you 35% off DS1!
@nota76
@nota76 Год назад
Thank you!
@FatRussianGamer
@FatRussianGamer 2 года назад
12:21 "check this out" ... goosebumps
@georgezorbas9036
@georgezorbas9036 2 года назад
I cant understand why this song isn't popular. Its beautifullllllll
@msp420
@msp420 3 года назад
great video
@primetimerobots
@primetimerobots Год назад
SUPER video!!!!!
@compoundaudio
@compoundaudio 3 года назад
My G >.. thank you for sharing
@djabthrash
@djabthrash 3 года назад
Great demo.
@LucasMichalski
@LucasMichalski Год назад
David, can you explain the difference between the band selective compression and regular multiband compression? I would like to understand the whole concept of Weiss. Thank you
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv 6 месяцев назад
Yeah he doesn’t explain the difference.
@bjoernkmusic
@bjoernkmusic 3 года назад
Hi David, very interesting - thanks for sharing! I was wondering if you've tried this trick on the DMG Essence plugin. Just in terms of features, it appears to share a lot of similarities with the Weiss. I happen to own this one and tried it (and formed an opinion on its use for such an application) but would love to hear your experience on this (if you have) since I can't make any comparisons to the Weiss.
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
I was probably the first one to show tricks with Essence, to control the low end. Actually, not probably, I was the first one, then dozens ripped off my vids. DMG makes great stuff, but Essence is not the DS1
@1wretchedsoul
@1wretchedsoul 3 года назад
Thanks! 🤘🏼☠️🤘🏼
@gumminenivijaybabu7576
@gumminenivijaybabu7576 3 года назад
Enjoyed it sir Need this plugin
@austinsummersofficial631
@austinsummersofficial631 3 года назад
Great product. Can definitely do something similar with fabfilter, but I think the particular sound of wiess is a very specific sound. Even the way it handles its interaction with the transients in general. Still, totally possible without spending the money. You just won't get the absolute exact sound. But in the real world consumer base, the weiss sound isn't really the biggest factor in how the consumer hears it. No one of the general public is really going to know the difference if you did it the cheap way or the expensive way, as long as you did it correctly. That being said, it's really nice to have and if you're looking for the best of the best, this is the way to go. Theres absolutely no denying that
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
There is absolutely denying that yes, so very much. I can't think of a more faulty and flawed and silly way of putting it when people say "the consumer won't know the difference" I can't even begin to say all the reasons as to why that is the biggest BS in modern "home producers" mindset, but I'm not even going to try, better this way for all of us. The same way I'm not gonna say anything about the "you can get close" thing, this is mastering, it's the most detailed stage of all music production, whoever half asses mastering "getting close" would be better off not doing anything at all. Everyone wants to believe you can do everything without spending the money or learning or putting work down it's so ridiculous. Yet the web is full of people asking why their stuff sound like ass.
@critiquedard
@critiquedard Год назад
Man, i really like your videos. I watched a lot one year ago, but i let down music for a moment until these recent days. Really glad to watch it again. Thank you very much for all your knowledge that your share with us. I talked about "Mixing academy". Are you in the plateform of Produce like a pro ? You give some course ? It's interesting because i would like to join in few days.
@mixbustv
@mixbustv Год назад
Thank you 🙏 yes I'm a tutor at PMA I have 4 full courses there (probably more than anyone else 😄) promixacademy.com/mentor/david-gnozzi/
@critiquedard
@critiquedard Год назад
@@mixbustv So, i'll be, for sure, as soon as possible a member really soon. You and Warren taught me a lot in two days, two years ago, and a lot more in two days, by now. Thanks a lot. Just for information, because i'm looking for a sound engineer to mix my first single this month, how can i contact you if i want you to mix my song ? How can i know your price and all ? If it's possible, of course.
@StrzBtz
@StrzBtz 5 месяцев назад
THESE PLUGINS IS GOLD
@kamalengels
@kamalengels Год назад
just became a member with a monthly subscription to hear more about the advanced Weiss DS1-MK3. but i can't find the second part of this video. thanks
@kamalengels
@kamalengels Год назад
oops... just found it.☺
@marstispinge
@marstispinge 3 года назад
As you said in the video this plugin is the best, but are there other band selective compressors just to train? possibily cheaper
@kilowatt9654
@kilowatt9654 3 года назад
Thnks for good informations 🧔
@trashunicorn2308
@trashunicorn2308 3 года назад
I can access all the video with tier 1 or 2 right? You're so the best, thank you!
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
Yes you can!
@lk0707
@lk0707 3 года назад
Hey Dave, pretty cool stuff. Btw. what is your desk brand and model ?
@mixbustv
@mixbustv 3 года назад
Modson, a custom version of the Komposer 2.0
@lahattec
@lahattec 3 года назад
Nice!
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