@@Furby213 glad it helped! you can use the following formula to calculate bands for a projectile of any size or material; (projectile weight in grams)/.0078=V (6*V/3.14)^(1/3)=D D*2=(band width in millimetres)
Thank you so much for taking the time! I love whenever a company is this passionate about not only about there products and also about diving this deep in helping there customers to get 100% out of the products you sell to them. Thank you SimpleShot and to everyone on the team!
@@simpleshot hi nathan nathan here. Been experimenting this week using your advice. As of the last week. Ive been high grade medical latex shooter for 24 yrs. Its not that im pig headed its just i didnt know fkatbands still existed? It was a thing old people used because thats what tires were made of. Ive hunted rabbits with 10mm tubes x2 all my life. I recently stole ideas from archery cams to make a 4x 10 mm(38) tubes with active licking cams for release on shooting . Last week i converted my whole system to handle 4x 1mm bands. For marbles. Its horifyingly fast!! Then made a frame for 2x1mm flatbands(tapered) and was too powerfull fir the ammo. So swallowed my pride and used a girly woosie 0.6mm band. And it was accuracy all over!!!! So flats; rekease energy faster than tubes. Internal pressure in tubes is not predictable. Simple! Thanks nathan youv made a convert. Not stubbornly. But information. A man who is honestly mistaken either ceases to be mistaken. Or ceases to be honest .
My preferred cut for 3/8 Ammo is 20/15 at 14cm long. Flys straight and tru and you can shoot at long range with these no problem. I can consistently hit a 25mm spinner at 10m with little to no misses.
Dear Nathan, i appreciate your channel and I learned a lot from your videos. Can you tell us please more about ammo and the appropiate thickness of the bands? We heared about ammo and the tapering, but what thickness of yours bands fits most? Thanks!!! 👍
Great and informative video, only thing that is kinda annoying is the imperial US mesaurement system your using, it would be nice to atleast see both units (metric system).
Cosmic Dust Units aren’t relevant if you remember to double the diameter of your ammo to get the right band width. The graphic is moot and the fractions really do make something obvious kind of hard to see. Using metric would make that 1:2 ratio very obvious.
Great video! I just bought the hammer slingbow/slingshot. Can't wait for it to come. Any recommendations on what arrows would be best? A video like this but for arrows would be great!
The most important thing is the tuning (over the taper). You can squeeze some performance out with the taper, but your best bet is experimentation! Try a few and see what works best for you. There are faster latex options over TBG for sure, so you might want to look at our SimpleShot Black or Precise latex, for example. You'll get longer band life in general with a straight cut, and a faster latex will more than compensate for the taper.
Hi Nathan and team, your class about slingshot is the best amongst others. very helpful, clear, and inspiring. thank you. I am not familiar with Theraband gold as it is not commonly used in my country. the thickness is 0.64, am I right? and what about the other band thicknesses to ammo? can i use the same table or is another setting?
I know this is an older video but I am new to shooting (modern) slingshots, and want to carry one while hunting (with bow or rifle, for squirrels, rabbits etc) and plan on shooting round ball lead for best effect.. I'm wondering if this guide works for lead ammo or if you need to up/ downsize to adjust for the greater density/ weight per diameter? and also what size ball do you recommend (I'm thinking .40 or .45 cal would be the best overall, but I have .50 cal balls and molds)
Thanks for the question. You will want to go with a heavier bandset as the lead does weigh more. Generally, it is one size up from what band would be used for the same size steel. For example, if you shoot 3/8" size lead (.36 cal), you will want to use the bands for 7/16" Steel Ammo and not the bands for the 3/8" Steel Ammo.
What are some guide lines to matching your band set to ammo like smooth rocks beings you can’t quite tell the ammo weight of the rocks. I’d like to try and customize my own flat bands. Have a good one Anthony ✌️❤️😊
I do have a Question.When I practice shooting some times my ammo hit the sling shot.I seam to shoot consistently same way but think after a wile my thumb sicks it the pouch and think that's my problem. I have lots of hits on the sling shot it self.Do I need a smaller pouch ? or is this common.
It's not the topic of the video, but your question is answered here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kS-4jX7heBo.html Nutshell version: there's a range of energy that any bandset can create. There's also an amount of energy that the ammo can receive. You want to strike a balance here or you'll have wasted energy (returning to your hand - ouch - if shooting OTT) if your bands are converting more energy than the ammo can receive. Or if the bands are creating less energy than the ammo has capacity for (ammo too large, for example), you'll have not enough energy in the ammo and a weak shot.
"Not the topic of the video"? The topic of the video is "Matching Bands to Ammo" , and in that topic one should find, besides the relationship of bands to ammo DIAMETER, also the relation of bands to ammo WEIGHT. Perhaps the topic should have been more specific "Matching Bands to Ammo Diameter". I do appreciate the quick reply, and will check the link for which I am thankful . THWACK!
Nathan, the link you provided has to do with OTT handslap. It doesn't address the relationship of different weight ammo to the band selection for a TTF shooter. Have you any data on that relationship? Best2u, THWACK!
Right. The topic was handslap, but the idea of matching ammo was covered in there (around the 1 minute mark). Handslap is a result of mismatched energies. We say weight is the important issue, not diameter. A 1 inch steel ball's energy capacity is much different from a 1 inch marble! The more weight (the ammo), the more energy the ammo can handle. So your heavier ammo will absorb the energy a heavier bandset will supply. Lighter ammo will be overpowered by the same band. This relationship is the same whether shooting TTF or OTT. We will put this in our list of new videos to shoot. Thanks! Team SimpleShot
Anytime, bro, anytime : ) My pleasure to offer you the opportunity to provide another of your informative videos to the slingaholics out here. Thanks, Andy and Nathan THWACK!
I'm planning on shooting 3/8" steel ball with the Scout. But I'm fighting with 0.30 latex or TBG I heard Latex wears out super quickly and I really abuse my equipment. Which should I use?
+Paul win If you shoot regularly, you will wear out the bands before they fail from deteroriation. TBG is more UV resistant, latex is slightly faster. Both will deteriorate from UV and Ozone exposure.
For tubes, looped or single, you need to know your draw length and then trim them to suit your draw. Check out this page for details on how to determine this. Tubes and flatlands both use this same formula. simpleshot.academy/how-do-i-tune-my-bands-for-more-performance/
The Hammer comes with the General Purpose 7/8 inch bandset. Many tournaments have been won with this standard cut. The important part is tuning your bands to your draw or you'll end up feeling like you have a wimpy slingshot, not a hammer! Tune those bands!! :)
SimpleShot Shooting Sports thanks, I appreciate you quick responses. I'll definitely tune them, I've been watching all these videos, they're great. Very informative, I never thought slingshots could be so complex. But I love it, its a great hobby.
I bought a Rambone from Joerg with double tbg straight cut and I get mad handslap with 12.7mm steel. I do pull them at full potential. Is double too much for my ammo?
Also I read on a forum that if you want to hunt, your shot has to go through a tin can. Even though I seem to have too much power and while the can gets beat up badly, it doesn't even go through the first side. What is wrong with my setup? Yes I know, sorry for the long questions lol
Thank you for the video! But as a beginner i assume that the thickness of the latex band has great influence too. What is your idea about the matching of band thickness and ammo? I use a BSB white 0.5 band in 24 - 12 taper with 8 mm steel and it works quite good. But according to your advice i will try a 16 mm band cut .. 😃
I noticed that the rule of thumb here is "Band Size = Ammo size x 2". Might be useful if you need to carry this info around in your head. Thanks for all the incredibly useful videos, and my beloved Axiom Ocularis.
Flats will normally shoot faster with a lighter pull as well as have a faster shot speed. Tubes will last longer. Best is a matter of what you are looking for. Most shooters say that flats are easier to be accurate with.
Oh man what's going on ? I don't understand can you not talk normal say it in mm as I dont understand what your saying it ashamed as I wanted to learn from what you said.
We much prefer the metric system. It's far superior for sure. But here, we don't use it at all, so sometimes we forget to add in the metric measurements. If you do a google search for "convert inch to metric" or any similar term, you'll find a ton of converters. Then this will be useful! :)
SimpleShot Shooting Sports 👍 Since you using terminology its a little hard to follow you, when english is my second language. Anyway, I learned some tricks watching your channel, so I'm going to continue with that. Thanks for that. And the answer.
Great! We're sorry for the language gap. . . we're all English speakers here. We admire anyone who has a second language at all! :) Keep at it and have fun!
+Lenley Melvin Try 1/4" wide strips of theraband gold or 1/2" strips of theraband blue. Also, the extra small diameter dipped latex tubing we stock is excellent for .177 bb's.
+Lenley Melvin We just finished up a run of those bands and they are now back in stock and ready to go. Sorry they weren't ready when you attempted prior.
Oh man what's going on ? I don't understand can you not talk normal say it in mm as I dont understand what your saying it ashamed as I wanted to learn from what you said.