Matt Chandler: From Woke to Broke 

From about 2010 to 2015 I llistened to Chandler about everyday. Right up until the MLK stuff. Haven't listened to him in years now, outside of just seeing random clips here and there. I've heard him, Voddie and Piper preach more than anyone. So, although I won't be going back to his teaching, I'll always want to see him turn and use his platform more effectively. Last month, I took my family to the beach - Orange Beach, AL. It was our anniversary so the grandparents kept the kids for a night and we went to dinner. We ran into Matt Chandler and his family. He was unbelievably gracious and approachable. Took real time to talk with us, and then on their way out his entire family stopped by our table to say hey. I'm not taking up for him or promoting his teachings. Just hoping that the Lord will point him back down the right path.

I lost all respect for Matt Chandler after he recorded his "white privilege" video. He said he never studied black history when he was in school, and he said TV shows were predominantly white when he was growing up. That's struck me as odd, because I was in the third grace when Black History Month was first instituted, and I remember several TV shows with racially diverse and predominantly black casts. Here are some examples: “Sesame Street” - 1969 “The Electric Company” - 1971 “Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids” - 1972 “The Flip Wilson Show” - 1970 “All in the Family” - 1971 “Sanford and Son” - 1972 “Chico and the Man” - 1974 “Good Times” - 1974 “That’s My Mama” - 1974 “Barney Miller” - 1975 “The Jeffersons” - 1975 “Welcome Back, Kotter” - 1975 “What’s Happening!” - 1976 If Matt Chandler were older than I, his comments might make sense, but he is eight years younger. Many of these shows were on TV before he was even born. Is his memory that bad, or did he simply lie?

As a Hispanic who has experience from both sides of lifestyle, i think its non sense what chandler is talking about. All the race woke stuff is just wrong. When i had a victim mentally it was sinful and just laziness. To give that any type of virtuee is just wrong and really bad to teach the church this non sense. Thinking like him will never let people find real solutions.

Can you please consider starting to put timestamps on your videos? It would really improve the overall experience.

Matt Chandler tried to be a pastor and a sociologist at the same time.

Chandler says he is ignoring the far left and far right. 'They're too set in their ways I'm Not going to win them etc.'. Mmm... I don't recall the apostle Paul instructing believers to only go after the low hanging fruit. That statement flies in the face of the gospel message.

I went to a Gospel Coalition conference in Chicago a few years ago. It was obvious to me that these people were compromised even back then. Mark Dever was there. He sounded more like a guy who was interested in building a megachurch than a guy who was interested in preaching the pure Gospel and the whole counsel of God. For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. (Acts 20:27 KJV)

We went to bus church back in 2013 and 2014. He was in fire for the Lord and his sermons left me challenged, convicted, and encouraged. It’s sad to see how much he’s gotten wrapped up in social justice and political nonsense.

Man these clips have aged so poorly. Especially that first one about the "invisible bag of privilege." So out of touch... both with the people and the Gospel.

Chandler was a spiritual father for me until he started pushing social justice. By then, I had matured enough to see the false teaching in that. Hoping he repents.

I loved chandler. Listened to him every week. He led me to Reformed theology. I went home to Dallas after college and tried to join the Village church. (Tried because they kept denying my membership.) it wasn’t until the Dallas riots that it was clear who he was. I started backing away from Chandler and TVC. I’m glad I did. I avoided the full bore SJ Gospel movement at tvc.

I confess that, from day one, I've been at unease with Matt Chandler, just based on his body language. There is just, shall we say, a "quality" about the man, and it continues to make me uncomfortable. I admit it's just my impression, but it's my impression, nonetheless.

I listened to the entire podcast and he never struck me as being tired

Great stuff, Jon. Have to disagree about Lecrae, though. His constant “hmm” “oh” “ah” “oOooO” “yeah” was intolerably amateurish. He should take notes from you about how to interview people.

At 1:00:14 to hear Matt chuckle at “Just preach the Gospel” is so grotesque and heartbreaking that it reminds me when you hear people say “Jesus Christ” as swearing or cursing. Unbelievable!

Matt doesn’t sound whiny in his regular voice, but when he preaches he adopts a whiny voice that I can’t listen to.

They make social issues the second gospel so that Jesus & the Good News is not enough! Heretical thinking for sure

Chandler has been all in on environmentalism and social justice being included in the gospel from the beginning.

Everything Matt Chandler says is so vague or trite. There's never a reference to a specific story, there's never details, no names, dates. There's no way to disagree with him that way. 55:45 With the exception of the reference to 2 political topics he saw hypocrisy, but he doesn't even explain exactly what their stance was. To be honest, I would be exhausted too if I were Matt Chandler. Even listening to his unending nondescript nuance is exhausting.

42:05 sounds like David Platt was one of the most corrosive American church figures of the century. I remember around 2010 or so when Radical came out, my pastor was enthralled by it and actually taught from it on three Sunday mornings in a row. All I remember was how deeply repelled I was about somebody putting out a book that is supposed to be about Jesus and following Jesus and giving it this title, which was a word deeply associated with such profoundly ungodly people. Immediately I felt greatly suspicious that David Platt must be a stalking horse for the evangelical Left and it turns out I was quite correct.

i never could listen to chandler. way too effeminate

Sometimes people say eschalotology doesn't matter. That's nonsense. It matters very very much. What is the Kingdom of God ? Different parts of Christianity have vastly different conceptions of the Kingdom. I like what my pastor says, "we're not saved by good works, we're saved for good works". In as much as our sanctification is part of the gospel the gospel is larger than conversion and the project of evangelism. So, what is the definition of "gospel" precisely ? Surely we all agree that Christians, true regenerate Christians, will do good works. Moreover, if we love Him we will keep his commandments and Christ came to fulfill the law not to abandon it. Certainly there has been an abuse of the term gospel by the woke, but there is also a danger to limit the Kingdom work to the church. Surely it is larger than that. Back to my original comment. Eschatology actually matters very much in terms of what our expectations of ourselves and the church ought to accomplish. All of Christ for all of life... now ? Or later ?

Excellent point about people who do not want to put the time and effort into thinking and want to "be fed." This is exactly what is happening within the church with respect to church.

Gosh, even looking at that ACTS 29 panel makeup is depressing. At one point I followed almost every one of them. But about 2018, even before “the crazy” I realized that Chandler did not preach expositoraly! He would “sort of kind of” go through books of the Bible but only land on certain verses and then make a case for his preaching point. Everything began to sound alike. I had to apologize to many whom I had following me in listening to him regularly.

Everything Chandler says is extremely ambiguous. I can barely understand what he is trying to say. Imagine Paul writing to the church using phrases as: looking to reach others while and at the same time never overwhelming the spirit of truth by horizontally despite the elements of the gospel. What 😮 ?

“Lean into” “brokenness”-still the same squish, effeminate evangelical terms.

53:45 Matt, you're not that profound and your insinuation that other Christians are tribal if they don't agree with your virtue signaling is not profound either.

John Macarthur describes Antinomianism theology as a type of legalism because it is still a theology based the believer's relationship with the law - specifically an opposition to the law.

Whenever Chandler talks, you never hear Scripture or critical thinking.

Matt spoke at the 2010 GCR SBC in Orlando with shaved head and brain cancer at 36. Shocking, he made it.

Jon, I hope you do get to talk to Joe Boot. Maybe invite him on your podcast. It would be a great conversation.

I live just a few blocks from hus church in Flower Mound Tx. I attended his church for awhile but found aspects of his teaching problematic. Left and joined another. His issues stem from his belief in RT and wokeness. So sad to see this regression. Also, problem is Matt is walking in false humility. His reasoning and starting point is faulty.

When your sufficiency is in degrees it cannot be in Christ. Sad.

Thanks for pointing me to the interview. I went and watched the whole thing. Great interview. Godly insights. Chandler is humble and wise, unwilling to let power go to his head or to let political ideologies replace his Ephesians 4 mandate! POWERFUL recommendations from Chandler to 1. be transparent with a group of real men in your real church AND 2. shepherd your flock, ignore the noise. Noise like you shared in this video. Shame on you for saying he sounded tired and broken and for slandering his church and family with unfounded accusations. This is NOT the way of Christ. And to Christ you will give account, not to your RU-vid followers. To the rest of you, Please go listen to the full Lecrae interview and decide for yourself. Christianity must not be an echo chamber.

Thanks for the shout out

I only know one thing about Matt Chandler. Every time I've ever heard him say anything about anything, I've always wanted to throw up.

I have questions for people who think Matt Chandler used to be good. What did you ever see in him? I have not seen spiritual or intellectual depth, just personality and a lot of waving of hands and arms. Is there much evidence that he was ever not politically progressive and not allowing his theology to be warped by that?

John - you should consider writing out your monologues before recording. It would squeeze a lot of air out of your monologues and greatly increase your signal-to-noise ratio.

Where are all these people that looked like Matt Chandler at today?

My friends and I used to drive down to the DFW area on a Saturday evening and attend his services in the early 2000's, big changes in that church over the years

I saw a video, seemingly recently, where Chandler at least said that Christians should not go to a homosexual imitation of a wedding ceremony. That is at least a good thing.

Most of the Pastors I know who posted the black square, “Did Not” post a word about Roe being overturned. I will be checking so I don't want to guess, but if I were a betting man...

21:17 Wow! That's straight ups CRT baptized in Christian language. He even did the "invisible knapsack".

He's a sold out to this moronic point of cultural Marxism in(D)oc. The pandering is at once galling and ridiculous.

Many in my family would send sermons back and forth to each other. We loved his teaching because it was tough, but true. Then, listened to this sermon of his that was very racial and spoke about privilege. Seemed to defend BLM riots as anger that was understandable or something. I don't want to be wrong in what I heard, so take with a grain of salt, but I might have cried after I heard his message knowing he was being deceived by the divisive rhetoric. We love Chandler and count him as a brother, so though disappointed, we prayed for him and stop sharing his content. It has been several years now. I want to encourage people to look into the radiation damage caused by his tumor treatment. It causes impairment. His lapse in judgement may have been residual effects of brain damage. I still pray God heals and Chandler turns against the race based social division.

I've been to church off and on since I was a kid. I went to what's now called The Woodlands Church in Texas with Kerry Shook. One day, they locked us in the cafeteria of my school and passed the plates again because, the tithe wasn't up to their expectations and told us that they would keep us in there passing the plates until we got it right. The youth pastor had us singing Sweet Home Alabama like it was the theme song of the service and we played games that included a crossdressing relay race that you put clothes on top of your clothes. There's so much other stuff that's wrong. I left the church and went to another one that had us getting saved in the youth service every Friday night because of Mathew 5:48 and us messing up all the time. I was told that if I messed up too many times, God would give up and I wouldn't be saved again. I was so sickened by my experiences that my stomach turned in the Bible section of the book store. In my late 20s, I started at one church in Los Angeles that was going south because, the female pastor tried to date me. I saw Mark Driscoll on TV and was interested in what he was saying about marriage. It started an intensive study on biblical and womanhood that I went through for months just reading books and listening to sermons from different Acts 29 pastors. I also went to an Acts 29 church in Los Angeles (that fell apart when it was relatively young). I'd been told by my mom that the Bible was written by 46 men who hated women and I liked what I was hearing. My dad was absent quite a bit as I grew up because, he was hiding from my mom's rages. I think that's what sucked me into pastors like Mark Driscoll. He's been very loud and aggressive towards the men that he teaches about women. I mistook it as passionate about being a good man. I went to a The Village church campus when I moved and I've been to an Acts 29 church in Nashville, TN and Washington, DC (that sells Woke Church)llll It makes complete sense that Acts 29 has pastors with problems with their dads. There were a couple of services for the time slot that I was at The Village Church that had a good mix of ages. I've noticed that there's a trend of the Acts 29 attendees mostly being in their 20s. There are noticeably less in their 30s. There aren't as many people attending with their parents as there are in other churches. There are less and less attendees as they get older. I think it's because, they're not as concerned about older people. They just like appealing to the younger, fressher crowd. If it's because of the pastors' dads, it would make sense that they don't know how to relate to them. Also, the more that people go, the less their impressed with the music and the Acts 29 pastor uniform. I have become more aware of the realities of Acts 29 and I'm recovering.

I am a general equity theonomist. I maintain my position that the problem with guys like Chandler, Platt, Gospel Coalition, etc. is not Kuyperianism. It is that they had bad theology. There is a type of conservatism in Politics and theology that is more liberatian, or hands off. In Politics it goes like this "We just want to elect people who won't pass laws or abuse power, because we don't want to set a prescedent for liberals to abuse power". And I think there's a parrallel between that mode of thinking and the Christians who are more pietistic and say things like "Well I just don't like politics in Church, we should just preach the gospel". I think Christians have a lot to say in the political realm. That does not mean every Christian has an obligation to do so. The problem with Matt Chandler is not that he was political, it's that he was wrong. He should not have marched for BLM, he should have spoken against BLM. I have a lot of relatives who get very angry at me as a conservative, and I get hit with the "Just preach the Gospel" line all the time. Yes, the Gospel is not a Gospel of works, it is a gospel of Grace along by faith alone. However, that Faith is accompanied by works. And Jesus says if you love Him, you will obey Him. And He said to make disciples, teaching them to observe everything He commanded. Every single Christian doesn't have to be holding signs at abortion clinics. But the Church as a whole should be speacking prophetically to that issue. And many of the other issues in our day. If you are in a church and you don't ever hear a word about the horrible sins of our nation. There is a problem.

Excellent and informative video. This seems to come down to one fundamental question followed by an subsidiary one: Should the organized church be political? If the answer is "yes" then the next question is: What type of politics? It seems like it can be answered in four different ways (at least in the USA): 1) Yes, and focused on left wing politics (Woke Evangelicalism & Mainline). 2) Yes, and focused on right wing politics (Christian Nationalism). 3) Yes, and try to do both (Third Way, which seems to become Woke). 4) No. The organized church should be apolitical. I believe #4 is the answer the New Testament and early church gives.

I take it Mattie wasn't watching the Jeffersons or Good Times when he was young. I went to schools in Southern Mississippi that were majority black. I enjoyed my childhood and made great friends. But I didn't feel much privilege. My Dad was an uneducated alcoholic truck driver. But I feel so much better being lectured by Pastor Matt (I can't stay faithful to my wife) Chandler. So Much better.

Term general equity came from the confessions. We believe it is a more historical position.

This is illuminating as to how eschatology is far less the adiaphra were told that it is. It’s been my experience that there are some who will claim postmil but find that their consistency regarding God’s sovereignty and particularly scripture’s sufficiency are immediately impeached when they engage society in these mirthless weak way. Scripture’s inerrancy is but a lie upon their lips.

One thing to note is that it appears the reformed/Calvinist revival is now diminishing. I personally believe that is a good thing because Calvinism is ideological possession to the extreme, on top of incorrectly interpreting the concepts of election and predestination. People are now going to churches that point to Christ as the way, and not a collection of ideological presuppositions that you have to memorize in a 5 lb systematic theology textbook.

I think Chandler’s dismissal of the defining the gospel in narrow terms of salvation is a mistake. That is a proper use of the “gospel.” My solution to the terminology problem is just to say that there is a narrow and wide definition of the gospel. One is about one time justification by grace alone, and the wider use is about the sanctifying obedience that flow from it in all of life. There is a law of the kingdom community, and that doesn’t need to be over-eschatologized. You are spot on when you say that it needs to be the right law. That is so key. It’s not good enough to have the categories of Gospel and kingdom obedience, we need to have the correct view of the law (what is equality and equity, etc.). I think you will get more traction agreeing with Chandlers categories, and pointing out the definition of the law problem, than trying to create new categories around justification and sanctification. But that’s just my take on the nuance.

Excellent and helpful analysis. Thank you

Yeah, his mea culpa on white privilege was the last time I listened to him. Grateful he confessed his racism and privilege. Certainly lived a sheltered life.

The "neo nomian" comments around 1:19:00 mark --- totally spot on. Nothing seems to be legacy. It's new twists on old concepts.

You really gotta talk to Joe Boot about the church/kingdom distinction.

Mark Driscoll has always spoken well of his dad. My impression after listening to a lot of Driscoll sermons is that he had and has a great relationship with his dad.

I find Matt Chandlers style of speaking unlistenable. I never could abide more than o few minutes of hearing his voice. Perhaps Matt should just go away

I used to be a really big Matt Chandler fan. I listened to pretty much every sermon he posted online. His "A Beautiful Design" sermon series was the best I've ever heard on the subject of what it means to be human, as well as male and female. I used to recommend that series to friends. But then Chandler went woke. It was honestly a huge disappointment to me to see him get deceived by the far left. I tolerated it a bit for a while, but eventually had to stop listening to him. I do hope that he one day comes to his senses and repents.

Sounds like Matt fully embraces Hegelian dialectic and Marxist philosophy.

I Think the Word "Gospel" needs to be define. Jon, do you define the gospel as "the step of salvation?" the Word "Gospel" is a more loaded term than is first thought. It can also mean the narrative writings of Jesus life and ministry like " the Gospel of John." It can also mean the whole counsel of God as in the Bible. This meaning of "the whole counsel of God" is what Chandler means by "Gospel." Therefore, Everyone is speaking pass each other when they accuse one another of not preaching the Gospel.

I stopped watching CNN. Now I don’t know what to think.

At 1:15, you talk about the confusion of the gospel (the good news of justification by Grace) with the fruits of it (sanctification). This is very important not to confuse. No question about it. But if this is the right way to talk about the gospel (and it’s a very Lutheran way, law and gospel), then it requires that proper preaching include both gospel, but then also sanctification by good works. That is one can’t say, “just preach the gospel” because that would not be biblical preaching, as biblical preaching is both the gospel of grace and then instruction in the fruits of that grace (good works). And one of those good works is rejection of racism and affirming the image of God in all human beings. So we should affirm that there is a proper biblical teaching on racism. We then need to distance this from the bad version of confusing privilege which results from obedience (having a two parent home) from privilege which is the result of injustice (having a lot of money because you sell illegal drugs). That is, “privilege” needs to be striped of its moral ambiguity-some is good some is bad. That’s why this term is divisive. The point is this. We need to protect the definition of the gospel, but we also need to preach the obedience of righteousness that flows from it. And this requires addressing racism in the right way, not just casting it aside as “not part of the gospel.” Chandler is right about that. But then his definition of racism and standpoint epistemology direct this insight in the wrong way. That’s the difficulty I see.

I watched all of this video, man… I will never get that 2 hours of my life back. I understand that you don’t like Matt Chandler, but the fact that you don’t know where he falls on the book of Revelation… even tho he’s written a book on it and preached a 12 part series on it, is poor research on your part and that theme (not understanding where Matt Falls on most issues) spills over into most of this video. There are multiple things you have taken out of context and I wish I cared enough to spend the next hour or so rebuking most of which you had said, but I’m not willing to give you another hour of my time… you already have taken too much of it. God bless you brother, I hope you’re impacting the kingdom of God in a positive way.🙏🏼❤️

Well, to paraphrase Elaine Benes, "Anti-racism. Who has the energy anymore."

Y’all say he should have changed his position after the autopsy came out. But that is like saying that pastors should have gone back to in person once they realized Covid wasn’t as serious as we thought. There are truths that should have guided them besides putting their finger in the wind and seeing what the mood of the culture or even their congregation is. This whole mess is a natural outflow of pastors having less and less spine over the years and being scared to upset the very congregations they need to be admonishing and exhorting. Pastors should know (Covid) that we do not neglect meeting together. Period. They should know in Christ there is no Jew nor Greek nor male note female, etc. (George Floyd). These should have guided their preaching and leadership.. the clear teaching of the word of God.

My eyes roll pretty hard whenever the 1K/2K stuff crops up. It just seems to obvious to me that these squabbles involve preferences about language and sources, and jostling for influence, rather than substantively different views of reality. Personally I prefer to describe the kingdom of God as unified, because of the language in the English version of scripture I read which consistently references a single kingdom of God - the only other kingdom it commonly refers to is the kingdom of darkness. My understanding is that some reformers also had that view that the "2nd" kingdom was the kingdom of darkness. For that reason, I personally don't like the confusion of using the word "kingdom" when someone is simply trying to delineate church and state, and it doesn't make sense that it would delineate heaven and earth either. Daniel clearly shows the kingdom of God comes from heaven to earth. Whether you prefer to say "kingdom" "realm" or "sphere" can we all agree when we are having that conversation that we are saying the same thing with almost no substantive difference? And can we remember that distinctions are not the same thing as divisions? The point on TGC as neonomian is true. I never really heard anyone say TGC in particular was antinomian. Antinomianism is very common today, though, across many evangelical denominations. I think all antinomians are technically neonomians because they inevitably have a law they insist everyone must abide by. It's impossible not to. When people like Boot say TGC had a "truncated gospel" its not as if he is saying there is more to atonement than the penal substitution of Christ, I think that's pretty obvious. Chandler isn't saying that either, to be fair to Chandler. Criticizing Chandler on that basis is relying on equivocation. He's not introducing a new way for justification. He's saying that the good news involves more than just atonement - the whole kingdom of God is good news, and the focus of the gospel is of course Christ, not ourselves, so I doubt you would really want to make a strong argument that the true focus of the gospel is on us getting saved. Its very common to use "gospel" to speak about atonement, but we have to remember not to get confused when someone is trying to talk more broadly about the evangel. The historical use of the term was to announce the new reign of a king. So the gospel is indeed inherently political because its the announcement of the kingdom of Christ, which is a direct threat to all insubordinate kingdoms and realms of the earth. That's why Chandler's flaws are so potent, because they ape the real thing.

I am so sick of hearing someone who looked like me I did papers in high school on the civil Rights movement and people who didn't look like me. Lots of us did. Lens is sick of that to through the lens of LOL so dumb

Lecrae has said that he didn’t know it would only be Raphael Warnock there. I think there was supposed to be a republican candidate there or at least that was what Lecrae thought.

You know John, I tend to agree that it is harder to witness to people who were raised with a pseudo-Christian surrounding who are not saved, than it is to witness to someone who totally rejects the gospel outright. Like in the Bible Belt for example. I view it similarly as witnessing to Mormons or Catholics, they already have a vested hope in salvation that is validated by their community or family, so it eases their conscience and gives them something to hide behind. Whereas someone who flat out rejects God or an afterlife can more easily come to a place of seeing their hopelessness outside of Christ, as opposed to someone who believes Christ is on their side and is not. Either way, it is God who grants belief and repentance and if He can do it for a wretch like me, He can get to anyone. Just my two cents, or you might say…………. “my lived experience” hehe

Simple for him, become a word of faith/ prosperity preacher and he will have money again.

PREACH!!!

Dispensationalism has so much to answer for, though if Chandler claimed to be Reformed he should have known better. He's right that the Gospel carries with it an expectation--a requirement, really--of sanctification. And sanctification includes, over time, an increasing confomity to God's will--his law. But dispensationalism is allergic to the idea that God's law might apply today, so he has to call it something different, and the unfortunate term he's chosen is "the gospel of the kingdom."

Marxist ideas are not compatible with the gospel of Christ. You should know your historical Marxist ideology. But as a reformed believer, are you saying all of this is predestined? If so, what are you arguing about?

It is sad to have a host of adventurer preachers basically motivated not by am authentic call of God, but by desire to hit it and prove to daddy. Easy for Matt now to blame dad for some of his failures.

Are you saying that the name of that Gospel Coalition podcast is akin to "as above, so below" (an inversion of "on earth as it is in heaven")? If so, that's a witchcraft thing.

The kingdom talk is as old as Washington Gladden and the social gospel.

YRR Young Restless and Reformed was Calvinism without Confessinalism and Covenantalism.

We are saved into Christ's brotherhood generation by channelling a bio-logical repentance into a memorialising of Christ's significance which logically associates us with Christ's significance; that association that is a salvation is then the logical basis for Christ's request to the Father to send the Spirit to prompt further bio-logical prompts; just as external revelation does. (Am 12 minutes through the video).

Why don't you listen to more solid teachers like Met Tab London. Do christians today actually want depth or just political stance and entertainment and commercial positioning?

53:20 it occurred to me (and I believe this is true) that the reason for the aged look on Chandler (and the pressure he's feeling) isn't from the people. I believe the Lord is leaning on him over his worldly theology that he's adopted and isn't letting him go until he submits to truth. By truth, I don't mean The Truth, I'm not suggesting he's not saved, but he's certainly submitting himself to a lie about racial issues that creates putrid division.

It's getting to a lot of churches. I went to a church here in Washington, DC and it was awful. So, I looked at every church in DC's website. I see signs of crt and/or open support of alternative lifestyles and genders (some have multiple large pride flags on them). Some have a significantly higher percentage of older or younger people in the pictures. I don't like that because, that's always been a sign that their ignoring or discounting certain age groups. I just watch church online.

Chandler is just trying to be what he thinks makes him relevant -and to capitalize on it. ( in the white privileged clip)

I met him once. SBC meeting in St. Louis in the ERLC private lounge area. He was kind of surly and unfriendly. Maybe he was having a bad day? I have not heard much of him. When I have watched him, he sounds sort of effeminate. On social and economic topics, he doesn’t sound very knowledgeable.

His actions caused his disqualification to minister. Now his words should be weighted as you would any other brother in Christ, but he's not to be emulated or lifted up as a wise man. Sad really😞 may he seek repentance and find mercy from Christian family.

What happened to guys like Matt? Where did this focus come from? How did they become so focused on these dumb things?

I thought he was unqualified?

Who thinks like this are vocalises these things

More like Matt Handler!

45:32 - it’s simply a disobedience to the 5th commandment..

I've thought for awhile that he looks worn out. Sad. I used to really like him until he sold out to the liberal left

Curious, what pastors and churches do you recommend?

I never liked Chandler and I didn't like Platt's book at all. Bad exegesis.

I went to his church. Solid Bible teacher. I left because my kids needed a more robust kids ministry, which he regrets. Ok, isn’t recognition of mistakes what make an older pastor very wise? His church is in the heart of North Dallas suburbia…read Trump country. His heart appeared to be troubled by why so few people of color attended. He tried to appeal and wow…he was seriously rejected by Christian conservatives. My advice, if it means anything, comes from being Part of the largest inter-racial church west of the Mississippi River and another east of the Mississippi. Your church should be ethically reflective of the community it resides. Since his church sits in a 95 percent white community, I would ask him to not be so troubled by it. I am African-American for whatever value that is.

I'm not sure why you can't believe that the George Floyd media play was criminally misleading, and that many Black people have very different experiences that me and I might benefit from listening and working to understand how to cross the dividing walls of hostility. People like Chandler need to make their limiting principles clear, but then be creative and pursuing of oneness.

I'm sorry. Tim Keller marketed leftist ideas? Such as? Please be specific.

Oh, the cringe!😖

24:00 Cultish. Or, "How to walk around and interact in our cult."

Chandler is weak.