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Lavinia had the misfortune of falling in love with Matthew Crawley during the war. In fact, she loved Matthew so much that she was willing to marry him even after being told he would be unable to have children, and then - on discovering his secret love for Lady Mary - she was so keen to get out of their way that she died, quietly, of Spanish Flu.
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@kimberlyterasaki4843
@kimberlyterasaki4843 4 года назад
Lavinia was probably the most selfless person in the series; she risked her reputation to save her family, she was willing to spend the rest of her life caring for Matthew in a time that was unforgiving to the disabled (plus thinking she would never get to have children and never caring about being the future lady of Downton), she never had any harsh feelings toward Mary, and even on her death bed, she was wholly committed to making sure the man she loved and her friend would be happy together and not have to worry about guilt.
@chloechan549
@chloechan549 4 года назад
Sybil was also very selfless
@anthony.catbagan
@anthony.catbagan 3 года назад
Lavinia is noble. The irony is that she never was born a noble and yet her character has proven to be better than the noble-born.
@RHathemoment
@RHathemoment Месяц назад
​@@anthony.catbaganby far.
@GoldenRose116
@GoldenRose116 5 лет назад
I wish Lavina found love somewhere els and didnt die... she was such a sweet person. I also really like her and Mary's friendship..
@Yorkshirefreckles
@Yorkshirefreckles 5 лет назад
I loved Lavina. She was more suited to Mathew in everyway. I think she loved him through and through. She gave up on life to give Mary and Mathew a chance. Now that's true love
@libbyshooter9680
@libbyshooter9680 4 года назад
Golden Rose I hated her 😂
@akhishesh
@akhishesh 4 года назад
Downton would not have been saved.
@KoiYakultGreenTea
@KoiYakultGreenTea 4 года назад
akhilesh v as the heir, Matthews future would be entwined with the estate. It might’ve been a little harder to ensure he gives the Swire fortune, which would be Lavinia’s inheritance, to Robert, but he still would. If anything I think Lavinia would convince him to invest in the estate because she is kind and compassionate and wants the best for Matthew.
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Lydia Helen Samuels-Griffths Nah Mary and Matthew for life
@melmanmoose4282
@melmanmoose4282 5 лет назад
Mary was always so kind to Lavinia though. It showed her at her best during the war.
@KoiYakultGreenTea
@KoiYakultGreenTea 4 года назад
Melman Moose I think Matthew brought out the best in her like that. Mary wanted Matthew to be happy even if it wasn’t with her. She was fond of Lavinia too. Normally we’d expect her to be a vicious bitch but it’s just that much startling that she’s soft and kind now to Lavinia and just goes to show Matthew really had her heart
@KoiYakultGreenTea
@KoiYakultGreenTea 4 года назад
lora 1111 not all of it. She had her moments. That’s what makes shows good. Not everyone is black and white
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
No one yeah that’s why I feel that Mary is so much better than Edith in many ways. Mary was cold and strong minded but otherwise she was kind and only a few people knew it which is quiet unfortunate. Edith is more of a snob and she was racist. I would expect Mary or the Dowager to be upset about Jack Ross but no Edith was the one who was horrible
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
lora 1111 you mean Edith was jealous
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Martin Dennis But she could have chosen to be mean to her and not care about her. She could have chosen not to care when Lavinia was crying or to check on her.
@SafeSpaceInc
@SafeSpaceInc 5 лет назад
In all fairness, Lavinia was quite beautiful, in a delicate sort of way. She was very gracious and her countenance reflected that grace. (I don't know why she was viewed as "plain" or "un-pretty" by some.)
@harringt100
@harringt100 4 года назад
I wondered if it's just because she was a ginger. Wasn't that unfashionable in the early 20th century.(?) There's no accounting for taste in looks, though. A lot of people think Kierra Knightley is a knockout, whereas she looks frighteningly like a famine victim to me. White women aren't "supposed to" find Asian men attractive, but I think a lot of them are really hot.
@snowangelnc
@snowangelnc 4 года назад
The standard of beauty for the time period did play a part in that. There's also the fact that the family wanted Mary and Matthew to get married because of the whole issue with the inheritance, meaning that the two were inevitably going to be compared to each other and that Lavinia was going to be compared unfavorably.
@earlofbroadst
@earlofbroadst 4 года назад
I never understood that either. Then again, I have a crush on Zoe Boyle and a general affinity for pale redheads. (Still bearing a torch for one in particular.... *sigh*)
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
snowangelnc not really. All of them loved Lavinia but Lavinia was a sweetheart and soft in a way so that’s why I guess
@snowangelnc
@snowangelnc 4 года назад
@@jehannethompson1432 The did love Lavinia, but they didn't want Matthew to Mary her instead of Mary. Nobody was outright mean to her, but a few snide comments were made behind her back. I was thinking about Violet's first words upon seeing her for the first time, "well, I guess looks aren't everything."
@Highpriestess1126
@Highpriestess1126 3 года назад
Lavinia was Matthews guardian angel. She mended his broken heart, was there by his side when he was sick, was willing to nurse him through out life with no expectations of a wife, got out of the way for his true happiness, and even ensured his estate was secured through her father’s will. She left when her role was over in his life to let him live happily. That’s why his death made ABSOLUTELY no sense at all.
@thebluedoorstep647
@thebluedoorstep647 2 года назад
The actor who played Matthew no longer wanted to be a part of the series
@pameladavis895
@pameladavis895 11 месяцев назад
Matthew's character shouldn't have been written off! He could have been replaced with another actor. I feel this was a mistake.
@KoiYakultGreenTea
@KoiYakultGreenTea 3 года назад
I think a lot of people forget (including myself) that Mary sacrificed her happiness for Lavinia’s and Matthew’s. More than just letting Matthew be happy, but after seeing Lavinia being so heartbroken at Matthew and how much she loved him, she chose not to confess her feelings to Matthew and her chance to earn him back for the sake of Lavinia who she could see loved Matthew genuinely and kindly. She did it for both of them and of course was so kind to Lavinia because she honestly cared for her too. Even if she loved Matthew and wanted him for herslef
@SummerRain368
@SummerRain368 Год назад
Definitely! Lady Mary was so wonderful to Lavinia as if she were her own best friend. I believe that’s what Lavinia’s personality drew out of people. Their own kindness.
@gerardcollins80
@gerardcollins80 Год назад
I've never really had the highest opinion of Mary's character, but this is one arc in which I had massive respect for her. She was never mean or took out resentment or jealousy on Lavina despite pressure from other members of her family, and was in fact warm, welcoming, and supportive to her.
@kalex270
@kalex270 3 года назад
I always loved how kind Mary was to Lavinia. She could have torn her to shreds out of jealousy, but she chose to be better than that up until Lavinia’s last breath. Love her character.
@yankeeangel26
@yankeeangel26 2 года назад
Me too. After what we saw of Mary in the first season, I was sure she would set out to make Lavinia's life a living hell. I'm glad the show chose a different direction.
@SS11660
@SS11660 Год назад
She did it for Matthew.
@hannahdyson7129
@hannahdyson7129 10 месяцев назад
​@@SS11660She didn't. She went to her grave twice at least . She loved Lavina
@leiaslizzy
@leiaslizzy 4 года назад
Even though I prefer Matthew/Mary over Matthew/Lavinia, I love Lavinia as a person. She loved Matthew so much that she wanted him to be happy, even if it wasn't with her. I remember when Anna and Daisy were playing that game, and the message was "May they be happy". That was right before Matthew proposed to Mary, and it was Lavinia, I am sure of it.
@annetteb.3633
@annetteb.3633 4 года назад
I liked Lavinia so much. I was really sorry for her because she seemed neglected to me and that was something she didn't deserve. I wished the best for her. She showed us what the REAL LOVE is.
@MsJubjubbird
@MsJubjubbird 7 месяцев назад
Matthew liked a fight. Lavina couldn't give him that
@annnnike
@annnnike 3 года назад
I respect Mary for not sabotaging their relationship. A lot of people would.
@gigi-1753
@gigi-1753 2 года назад
but she did😂
@Tatsukoi.muffin
@Tatsukoi.muffin Год назад
​​@@gigi-1753She did indeed
@hannahdyson7129
@hannahdyson7129 10 месяцев назад
​@@gigi-1753Not really
@gigi-1753
@gigi-1753 10 месяцев назад
@@hannahdyson7129 how not so?
@TheTewjr
@TheTewjr Год назад
Lavinia would have made a wonderful eventual Countess. She was gracious, kind and selfless to the end. Truly an amazing woman.
@BeautifulJ
@BeautifulJ Год назад
Matthew should have married Lavinia
@elinanderzon2922
@elinanderzon2922 4 года назад
Even though Mary has made a lot of mistakes throughout the show I think we all saw the best version of Mary when she was with Matthew and when she spent time with Lavinia. She was always nice to her even though she was broken hearted
@kristelpi652
@kristelpi652 Год назад
That’s because Mary is a kind hearted character with a slightly cold exterior. People think that when a high positioned woman exudes confidence or defends herself sharply, she is evil. I see so many people calling Mary a bully but I have never seen her character purposefully target or be disrespectful to a vulnurable character, like for example Thomas or Edith or miss O’Brian. The narrative that was pushed on her character after Matthew died, that she was “a bitter bully but her dead husband made her kinder”, was a flanderisation and made to feed the mass who didn’t identify with her imo. She was always a respectful and fair person, it wasn’t something new. End of rant.
@elinanderzon2922
@elinanderzon2922 Год назад
@@kristelpi652 but she was mean to Edith
@kristelpi652
@kristelpi652 Год назад
@@elinanderzon2922 she was only mean to edith when edith was mean to her, when edith was trying to bully her to be exact.
@elinanderzon2922
@elinanderzon2922 Год назад
@@kristelpi652 Edith never bullied Mary
@aks477578
@aks477578 Год назад
@@elinanderzon2922 the letter to the Turkish Embassy has entered the chat.
@roy.shrestha
@roy.shrestha 5 месяцев назад
Lavinia was the sweetest angel. I wish she hadn’t died. Girl deserved so much better 🥹
@phalynwilliams4119
@phalynwilliams4119 4 года назад
Lavina was a sweet girl who deserved better treatment.
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Lúthien Cora?
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Martin Dennis I won’t say against. They just wanted Mary to be happy but Mary didn’t want to ruin Lavinia, that’s why she never told about the Marconi scandal. But the Dowager came to like Lavinia I think
@user-hb4zz4gh5e
@user-hb4zz4gh5e 4 года назад
Such a sweet soul! She deserved so much better😞
@KatBaumgarten
@KatBaumgarten 3 года назад
I love how sweet Mary is with Lavinia. You can tell she really wants to get along and be friends for matthew's sake
@Yorkshirefreckles
@Yorkshirefreckles 5 лет назад
Lavina was truly in love with Mathew. She deserved him through more then Mary. I love the fact she gave up her life for Mathew.
@RochelletheRealtor
@RochelletheRealtor 5 лет назад
She died from a disease that killed millions. It wasn’t self sacrifice.
@LoggyWD
@LoggyWD 5 лет назад
She was a plot device which has no personality whatsoever. She is a tool which doesn't think for herself. Well deserved fate.
@QueenKordeilia
@QueenKordeilia 5 лет назад
@@RochelletheRealtor Lydia was clearly referring to Lavinia's willingness to enter a sexless and childless marriage with Matthew when she mentioned sacrifice. She wasn't talking about literal sacrifice of life.
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
The Effortless Naturalista definitely she can’t kill herself
@snowangelnc
@snowangelnc 4 года назад
Matthew did mention that he believed the heartbreak she suffered right before she died contributed to it by taking away her will to live. I'm not saying that she wouldn't have died anyway, but it wasn't unreasonable for him to think that.
@areebairfan7828
@areebairfan7828 5 лет назад
Ah these videos make me realise how series 2 was the best season of Downton.
@alberttsai8832
@alberttsai8832 4 года назад
Season 3 was the best for me all the way up until Matthew’s death at the very end of the Christmas special... I mean yes, Sybil died. But Matthew and Mary were so happy and in general I feel like the family was just happier (aside from when Sybil’s death happened). Besides the fashion for S3 was on point, what with all the wedding dresses, etc.
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Albert Tsai Exactly. The seasons went downhill especially for Mary. I was absolutely raging with anger when she married that useless car driver lol
@bobbidazzler1343
@bobbidazzler1343 3 года назад
@@jehannethompson1432 She should have married Charles Blake.
@DestinyPifer
@DestinyPifer 2 года назад
I loved Lavina and felt so bad for her. To be in love with a man who loves another is heartbreaking and the scene where she comes into the room and Cora is the only one who was kind to her while Robert is giving her a cold stare along with Carson. Then while she is ill her fiance and his ex are smooching downstairs. Heartbreaking indeed.
@BeautifulJ
@BeautifulJ Год назад
True.. Matthew shouldn't have kissed Mary.
@msfriendsfan4ever788
@msfriendsfan4ever788 4 года назад
Lavinia was such a sweet and caring person. She desvered to find love somewhere else.
@jamiejosh96
@jamiejosh96 3 года назад
Would like to think Lavinia and Matthew would be up in heaven as friends
@jm1657
@jm1657 2 года назад
Zoe has a really beautiful quality to her voice, imo. It’s distinctive. Very ear-catching☺️and memorable. Michelle does as well. I could listen to them speak all day.
@karenax254
@karenax254 4 года назад
Lavinia had a beautiful character.
@kennedy78
@kennedy78 5 лет назад
I know many people dislike Mary, but I don’t think she’s a bad person. I do think her personality in the first season could’ve used a softening and I think she did in the coming seasons especially in season 2 she was kind to Lavinia and their friendship was so beautiful. Love makes you do crazy things. And while she definitely was very entitled in the first season and I do think she was mean to Edith but in later seasons they became very close and who can say they haven’t been rude to their siblings or jealous of them at least at some point in their life? Nobody. Mary is not perfect and neither is any person
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Exactly. I have family members who I live but I can’t stand them. Literally
@manuelacharberger
@manuelacharberger 3 года назад
I agree in that she isn't a bad person but she was frightfully cold many times. That's why I think people tend not to like her as a character.
@hannahdyson7129
@hannahdyson7129 3 месяца назад
So why potentially ruin Marigolds life to spite Edith?
@ABirdOnTheMoon
@ABirdOnTheMoon 4 года назад
It’s sad that Mary’s behavior isn’t seen wrong and so is Mathew’s. Poor Lavinia!
@ragecandy
@ragecandy 3 года назад
The fact that they killed her off just so matthew could be with mary and then killed him too is nasty
@gee2541
@gee2541 3 года назад
Matthew and Mary were always the pivotal couple of the show though. And Matthew only died because Dan Stevens left
@lasschick1
@lasschick1 5 лет назад
I really liked Lavinia. I wish her story was different
@ayakotami3318
@ayakotami3318 2 года назад
Lavinia was one of my favorites! Both she and Sybil were two I wish didn't die. And both died in terrible ways: Spanish Flu and Childbed Fever! 😭
@elinanderzon2922
@elinanderzon2922 Год назад
Eclampsia
@caoimhebrowne466
@caoimhebrowne466 4 года назад
Poor Lavinia, she was such a sweetheart and she deserved Matthew more than mary did 💔
@_Astral_Traveller_
@_Astral_Traveller_ 2 года назад
Ok we both know that's not true😤
@soleilcuellar8687
@soleilcuellar8687 4 года назад
I totally forget that character, what a sweet lady!
@dwaekkisinsanity5233
@dwaekkisinsanity5233 2 года назад
Lavinia's like so pretty, what do ya'll mean with "plain" 🙂?
@veethau1218
@veethau1218 4 года назад
Cora is so beautiful
@aa1944-k2r
@aa1944-k2r 2 года назад
Just finished season 2 and I am devastated the she died...she is an angel, I wish I could find my Lavinia, but she must not be that selfless and she will have good health and live a long long life with me
@susannestein3955
@susannestein3955 4 года назад
I feel so bad for Lavinia!
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 5 лет назад
Unrelated but does anyone else think Mary and Charles were better than Mary and Henry?
@aafiyahamidah4685
@aafiyahamidah4685 5 лет назад
I prefer Mary-Evelyn
@MsDoctorWhoFan1
@MsDoctorWhoFan1 4 года назад
George Prchal tony Gillingham would have made more sense. He was here childhood friend and he was an Earl. Mary would have been a countess as she would have been.
@oliviaswindler7258
@oliviaswindler7258 4 года назад
Absolutely!!
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Aafiya Hamidah Evelyn was full but Mary and Evelyn were good friends
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Amy E but Charles Blake was way smarter and could run and estate and some of those lovely arguments that Mary and Charles had were nice
@innercircle341
@innercircle341 10 дней назад
Died of a broken heart. Just watched the episode for the Nth time again
@reddavis4808
@reddavis4808 2 года назад
I felt so bad for Lavinia @ 7:33. She probably saw all of it.
@아나킨스카이워커-f3u
@아나킨스카이워커-f3u 4 года назад
Lavinia’s Story touched my heart deeply. You know what, I’m madly loving a girl that I thought it was our almighty god who chose her for me. I fell in love with her since the first time I met her, just like how Lavinia began to love Matthew. I had waited so long, and one day I finally confessed my love to her. Sadly, the result didn’t turned out rather satisfying. Now, she is the girlfriend of another gentleman. Their love is jolly sweet that sometimes it did make me envy and feel sad. But anyway, I will always love her and will always be waiting for her. This love is unrequited, just like Lavinia’s love to Matthew. I’m not as generous as Lavinia, so if I say I wish them be happy, then it is definitely a lie. However, if I say I wish her to be happy, then that is the truth which comes from my heart. If she is happy, then there’s nothing for me to complain about.
@thisisme3161
@thisisme3161 4 года назад
피터 벤저민파커 That’s sweet but for your sake and happiness please don’t wait for her, and try to move on, especially if she’s already turned you down…life is usually not like in the movies, if she didn’t love you then, why would she love you one day ? It may be hard to accept that but that’s that ; anyways I wish you happiness
@kaytiemyers2698
@kaytiemyers2698 5 лет назад
Lavinia couldn't have reacted or bounced back as well as Mary when Mathew died though
@TSD0416
@TSD0416 5 лет назад
True that !!! But if Matthew had married Lavinia instead, he would have altered his future and he wouldn't have died in the car accident.
@GoldenRose116
@GoldenRose116 5 лет назад
Wouldnt say Mary bounched back well... she was basicly a living zombie for 6 months
@SafeSpaceInc
@SafeSpaceInc 5 лет назад
Kaytie Broadhurst I agree.
@ayameisastar
@ayameisastar 5 лет назад
Golden Rose but if I were to guess I would say that Lavinia is the type to wear black for the rest of her life and never remarry and stay in the shadows of her home raising her child. So the fact that Mary eventually did start her life over again and dated and took over managing the estate shows her ability to bounce back much better
@vilwarin5635
@vilwarin5635 4 года назад
@@ayameisastar I´m not sure about that. I think she is the kind of person who would live for her son, as Tom did with Lil Sybil.
@marig6184
@marig6184 3 года назад
this is such a sad scene, I would have loved to see them marry.
@liathano
@liathano 3 года назад
Unfortunately, saints don't make good wives/husbands. Lavinia truly loved Matthew by admitting and making him admit he loves Mary and not her but she lacked too much of self-estime for her own good.
@AlexdrinaArmstrong94
@AlexdrinaArmstrong94 3 года назад
You Put it Beautiful.
@Tatsukoi.muffin
@Tatsukoi.muffin Год назад
I dissagree. Matthew didn't deserve Lavinia
@hannahdyson7129
@hannahdyson7129 10 месяцев назад
Matthew didn't deserve any of them
@SueProv
@SueProv Год назад
Lavinia looks like a young Annette Benning.
@daithi7204
@daithi7204 4 года назад
Lavinias black dress is everything 😍😍💃🏻💃🏻
@loliver9660
@loliver9660 10 месяцев назад
Everyone says that Matthew brought out the best in Mary...but I think it was Lavinia. She didn't have a selfish bone in her body and showed kindness, devotion, and grace to everyone. Mary could have treated her badly for being with Matthew, but I don't think even she could bring herself to hate someone so pure. Each time they spoke, Mary had to relive the heartbreak of losing Matthew, but she never treated Lavinia with anything but kindness and always helped her through her struggles. Lavinia made Mary into the kindest, most selfless person she ever was in the whole show.
@user-mv9tt4st9k
@user-mv9tt4st9k 4 года назад
Sir Richard lives up to his nickname.
@karencotter3453
@karencotter3453 3 года назад
What was his nickname?
@alleycat2502
@alleycat2502 4 года назад
Lavinia was absolutely wonderful. So she deserved better. Mathew def shouldn’t have tried to spare her feelings by ignoring his. The truth was worth more than that, she was worth more than that
@hellogoodbyeandallinbetween
I really do not like how the arc ended. A third wheel to bring the two lovers together at the cost of her own life 🙄
@BeautifulJ
@BeautifulJ Год назад
I agree
@sarawentworth7967
@sarawentworth7967 2 года назад
My great great grandma had the middle name lavinia.
@JamesNYCGuy3
@JamesNYCGuy3 3 года назад
Mary always put aside her candle for Matthew to tend to Lavinia.
@holly.carlton
@holly.carlton 4 года назад
obviously i ship mary and mathew, but lavinia was so sweet and didn't deserve to die the way she did. or at all :(
@darmawanmelodysherinapsfan7136
@darmawanmelodysherinapsfan7136 4 года назад
Am i the only one who ships Matthew & Lavinia even both are dead before Mary met Henry for the first time
@mujenn
@mujenn 2 года назад
You are not the only one. I Always shipped Mathew and Lavinia over Mary.She was an inmature child in the first season. Besides lavinia loved Mathew more than Mary did.
@Tatsukoi.muffin
@Tatsukoi.muffin Год назад
Me too.
@hannahchesnutt9812
@hannahchesnutt9812 5 лет назад
Now upload Matthew’s proposal to Mary.
@leticiaherrera1944
@leticiaherrera1944 Год назад
I can't find the music they used for Lavinia's death. It's so tragic.
@MarkT1700
@MarkT1700 2 года назад
So sad when Lavinia dies of Covid 😔
@nat0y
@nat0y 4 года назад
Did anyone read the description box?! Shade lol 😂
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
I was like it wasn’t that bad
@MarkT1700
@MarkT1700 2 года назад
lmao
@nightangel8087
@nightangel8087 Год назад
Didnt like the way Mathew treated both women..he acted as if Lavinia was his love front of Mary, wanted to marry her in downtown abbey when he knew Mary loved him, went on with Mary when he had to marry Lavinia..not honorable
@BeautifulJ
@BeautifulJ Год назад
I agree
@BeautifulJ
@BeautifulJ Год назад
Mary and Matthew are not perfect. They were lying to themselves and poor Lavinia got punished because they were not honest about their feelings. Yes they really did kill her together like Matthew said and no wonder their marriage didn't last long and Matthew died shortly after mary gave birth because they crushed the heart of a gentle soul unnecessarily. They Put lavinia through unnecessary pain.
@liathano
@liathano 3 года назад
Love is not a question of credit but feelings and if on the paper Lavinia truly loved her and dedicated him her life, if Mary made mistakes, so did Matthew and so did Mary (love Matthew I mean) by being happy for Matthew and Lavinia. And I disagree with Lavinia when she said she finally has a little self-estime because she let herself die.
@anyamuenchgrieser8686
@anyamuenchgrieser8686 3 года назад
Lavinia was by far the better choice ❤
@shawneaton4029
@shawneaton4029 3 года назад
Whoa! Deja Vu! Either the universe is laughing or the algorithms here are more invasive than I had imagined (which is saying something)!
@libbyshooter9680
@libbyshooter9680 4 года назад
Mary was very selfless in this series xxx
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
And I loved it
@k.b.6844
@k.b.6844 4 месяца назад
Honestly, Lavinia is way prettier than Mary
@malinhessedahl
@malinhessedahl 5 лет назад
❤❤❤❤
@indroyoyoi
@indroyoyoi 3 года назад
Matthew didnt deserve her
@Tatsukoi.muffin
@Tatsukoi.muffin Год назад
Agreed
@yahairacalvo8791
@yahairacalvo8791 5 месяцев назад
Lavinia deserved better
@guyledouche4102
@guyledouche4102 Год назад
I never understood how any man would pick Lavinia over Mary, or Mable Lane Fox for that matter...
@ladyinred3735
@ladyinred3735 Год назад
Lavinia just let Mary borrow Matthew for a few more years and sire and heir. But Lavinia took him back soon enough.
@RhonaDavis-lz3qp
@RhonaDavis-lz3qp 11 месяцев назад
How sad that lavinia was thrown over
@DeerBoy736
@DeerBoy736 5 лет назад
I began to watch the series a few days ago. I enjoyed the first season I thought no love triangles so far that's great. I hate love triangles with passion. Then i started to watch the second season AND THERE WAS TWO IN ONE EPISODE. So it seems it is the end for me with Downton Abbey. The only thing that maybe could have save for me is to Matthew acting like a grown up person and telling Lavinia that he never should have propose her BUT NO she dies so Matthew doesn't have to make that grown up decision. It seems i will be the only one who glad that he dies in a car crash.
@taptapbunmaar5759
@taptapbunmaar5759 5 лет назад
You are one twisted person, and you have an opinion which falls in the minority sadly.
@DeerBoy736
@DeerBoy736 5 лет назад
@@taptapbunmaar5759 Sorry my english is not perfect. Was your answer a compliment?
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Your crazy
@DeerBoy736
@DeerBoy736 4 года назад
@@jehannethompson1432 Me?
@jehannethompson1432
@jehannethompson1432 4 года назад
Deer Boy it’s just a way of expression because I don’t agree with you but everyone has their own opinion
@samanthawhatshername2939
@samanthawhatshername2939 2 года назад
Lavinia was a sweet, selfless woman ...however I can't help but find her dying scene annoying. No offense.
@jaynekranc8607
@jaynekranc8607 Год назад
She was so...blah. I know she did lots of plot moving good things but I just could not get into that character. Maybe if they'd gone into her back story more?
@nadineparsons3963
@nadineparsons3963 4 года назад
She's already got the flu.
@SandraStranger
@SandraStranger Год назад
Matthew never told Mary about Lavinia just decided to bring her in poor Mary so painful i liked Matthew first but as time went on he left Downton to make a love scene in Cornwall he left then to go to America way stay on here when he was going to die
@hannahdyson7129
@hannahdyson7129 3 месяца назад
?
@hpavalferr7201
@hpavalferr7201 3 года назад
😳 💚
@mirtokiriazanou766
@mirtokiriazanou766 6 месяцев назад
Uhg ! Men.....
@jackofbalarat22
@jackofbalarat22 3 года назад
COVID
@aprilfisher4947
@aprilfisher4947 2 года назад
WHAT ?
@Lampritch
@Lampritch 3 года назад
So characters like Lavinia perish and guys like Sir Richard and Thomas live on and prosper. Sort of what's wrong with Britain these days...
@fortheloveofcats2462
@fortheloveofcats2462 2 года назад
Thomas made mistakes, but he didn't deserve the hateful treatment he got.
@kocsogarc
@kocsogarc 5 месяцев назад
She was boring
@breezymango4113
@breezymango4113 3 года назад
I ended up preferring and rooting for Lavinia being together with Mathew. She is much better of a person than Mary was. Why the HECK was he so obsessed and infatuated with her? Mary was cold, selfish, easily swayed, could be cruel and LOOSE/CHEAP....not until quite awhile later was she a decent person. Just because Mary was of high birth and that Mathew was "taking" the inheritance she would have if she wasn't a woman.... I am sorry to the actress, but she is even fairly PLAIN to look at! Her face is NOT very attractive, including her character in this show.🙄😤
@Tatsukoi.muffin
@Tatsukoi.muffin Год назад
Agreed
@BeautifulJ
@BeautifulJ Год назад
True. Matthew should have married Lavinia
@hannahdyson7129
@hannahdyson7129 10 месяцев назад
Matthew was horrible full stop . Both Mary and Lavina deserved better
@gabrielalopetegui
@gabrielalopetegui 3 года назад
Lavinia had to go. Sorry, she was such a sweet girl...but she had to go. Team Mary talking :-)
@flyboy152
@flyboy152 3 года назад
Yes, that was her sole purpose on the show, was to put another monkey wrench in the long, drawn-out courtship of Mary & Matthew. It took them more than 6 years to get it right. :-)
@Scottie5356
@Scottie5356 4 года назад
wait so could they not be Properly married becuase he also has issues with his err "great Stallion"??? 3:24
@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716
@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716 3 года назад
It means that the marriage could not be properly consummated, thus they could never have children.
@catherinewetzel417
@catherinewetzel417 3 года назад
Due to his spinal injury.
@flyboy152
@flyboy152 3 года назад
By custom, if not by law in those days, a marriage had to be consummated to be considered fully legal.
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