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Maurice Ravel's Miraculous Orchestration 

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Ravel volunteered as an ambulance driver on the Western Front during World War I. Between 1914 and 1917 he composed Le Tombeau de Couperin, a suite for piano, with a sequence of movements, modelled on Baroque dances but composed in Ravel’s own unique idiom. He subsequently orchestrated four of the movements. Each movement of the suite was dedicated to a friend who had died fighting in the war. Despite his own personal experiences of the horrors of Verdun, and his increasing ill health (and what would now be classified as PTSD), Ravel refused to allow a sombre mood into his music, commenting, “the dead are sad enough in their eternal silence.” The music in this extract comes from the Prelude, first in its original version for piano, and then in Ravel’s own orchestration of 1919.
MUSICAL EXCERPTS USED IN THIS VIDEO
Prelude from Le Tombeau de Couperin (version for piano solo)
Nathalia Milstein, piano
Prelude from Le Tombeau de Couperin (orchestral version)
Hungarian National Philharmonic Orchestra
Zoltán Kocsis, conductor
links -
Original full piano recording - bit.ly/3QfDVft
Original full orchestral recording - bit.ly/3Iwo7TI
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Комментарии : 260   
@DenizKupanaha
@DenizKupanaha Год назад
It’s already hard to find friends who love classical music (in the general sense). It’s even harder to find Ravel fans!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
There are plenty of Ravel fans here!
@Ticks
@Ticks Год назад
Everyone I've shown says "it's not for me" :,(
@renevillarreall.r.3503
@renevillarreall.r.3503 Год назад
@@Ticks you need better friends, my friend
@Mooseman327
@Mooseman327 Год назад
Anyone who has any musical sense or sensitivity, or who has any competency in music, adores Ravel. If he or she is a fan of jazz, just tell them that the closest analogue to Ravel is Ellington. They were contemporaries and they loved each other's music because they were both exploring timbre, sonorities, resonances, and texture in music. They heard music in similar ways.
@jackychan7758
@jackychan7758 Год назад
I’m one that’s sedimenting under the sea of France, waiting for Ravels arrival but never did. I sorrowed but this came as sparkles enjoys me, I finally have courage’s to ask this: “I’m a freaking Ravel Fan Mah Boy!”
@smurf902
@smurf902 Год назад
One of my favorite pieces of all time
@gljm
@gljm Год назад
After a concert, a woman came up to Ravel at a party and gushingly exclaimed to him " Oh Monsieur Ravel you are a Genius!' To which Ravel answered "No Madam, I am just able to put one note after another better than anyone else."
@camille1908
@camille1908 4 месяца назад
I don't believe this sentence is true. Ravel was obviously admirative of many other composers and I don't think he was pretentious enough to think he was the best. Surely a legend. But if it is true, I'd be glad to see your source/reference.
@Peculate
@Peculate Год назад
The piano version is brilliant, but the orchestration is absolutely breathtaking. It shows how being a good composer and being a good orchestrator are not exactly the same thing. Ravel's compositions were brilliant. But his orchestration was a whole new level of mastery
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Absolutely!
@MARTIN201199
@MARTIN201199 5 месяцев назад
Ravel even gave life to other composer’s works, like Mussorgsky’s Pictures at an Exhibition
@ДаниилКириллов
If you know Ravel well, you take things like that for granted. Daphnis is in my opinion the best color palette for orchestra ever written.
@ivanperez6961
@ivanperez6961 Год назад
YES
@AndreyRubtsovRU
@AndreyRubtsovRU Год назад
YES!!!!
@danielgloverpiano7693
@danielgloverpiano7693 Год назад
Да, правда! Отлично!
@BBB-hi4hc
@BBB-hi4hc Год назад
yes
@amnbvcxz8650
@amnbvcxz8650 29 дней назад
Agree!
@toothlesstoe
@toothlesstoe Год назад
Ravel is simply one of the best composers of all time, no question. He was a perfectionist, and it shows.
@AsrielKujo
@AsrielKujo Год назад
100% agree
@julienroussillesuarez6244
@julienroussillesuarez6244 Год назад
Bach, but ravel is not far behind
@toothlesstoe
@toothlesstoe Год назад
@@julienroussillesuarez6244 Bach is pretty boring
@julienroussillesuarez6244
@julienroussillesuarez6244 Год назад
@@toothlesstoe ignorant
@The_Guy_Who_Asked_06
@The_Guy_Who_Asked_06 Год назад
​@@toothlesstoe Based, as per usual.
@teelurizzo8542
@teelurizzo8542 Год назад
Le Tombeau is a masterpiece, the Prelude and the Menuet are my favorite parts and some of the greatest pieces of music written in any style. yeah that final piano arpeggio you can tell he had a harp line in mind, because even in the solo piano version you can hear it as a harp like phrasing and articulation.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
True - it is already a harp-like gesture.
@prototropo
@prototropo Год назад
I agree absolutely. I think he even lost friends in the war, and that war was a trough of brutality in a century that perfected brutality. The minuet always reassures me that life is not utterly hopeless, so maybe his firm grasp on hope--and miraculous harmonies--is infectious! Or learnable.
@chicolofi
@chicolofi Год назад
Indeed he was. To me Ravel is one of the greatest composers ever.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Agreed!
@VedJoshi..
@VedJoshi.. Год назад
the greatest
@hlcepeda
@hlcepeda Год назад
For me, the greatest and in no particular order: Ravel; Debussy; and Mahler for the 20th c. It's interesting that in Ravel's time, critics would compare (as if in some competitive sport) his compositions to those of his contemporary, Debussy. One critic opined (and I'm paraphrasing here) that _Ravel was a better Debussy than Debussy._ Pretty silly, if you ask me... but that sort of critique may have been fed by what Ravel and Debussy said of each other. This from N.C. Public Radio: "... each admired the other’s talents, but that didn’t stop either one of them from criticizing what he saw as the other’s weaknesses. Debussy was perhaps harder on Ravel than the other way around, because although Ravel complained about certain aspects of Debussy’s writing for the orchestra and for the piano, he also called Debussy “the most phenomenal genius in the history of French music,” and he once said that his dearest wish would be, and I quote, “to die gently lulled in the tender and voluptuous embrace of Claude Debussy’s Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun.” (Soap box time: I wish more attention was paid to Erik Satie who -- as said by Ravel and Debussy -- was a great influence on them both. )
@Hailey_Paige_1937
@Hailey_Paige_1937 Год назад
I’m a Music student and many friends of mine have never really heard of Ravel. My family aren’t musicians, so of course they haven’t heard of him, either. Ravel is #1 (Tied with Schubert) on my Top 10 List. I heard Boléro once and was obsessed with it for a good month. Then Daphnis and Chloe, his two Piano Concertos, and the rest is history. I dove HARD into his music, and I love even his obscure works (His “Frontispiece” for two pianos is HEART-BREAKING, written right after WWI and just weeks after his mother passed away. Plus, check out his “ Scheherazade,” his two Operas, and his “Pieces in the Styles of…….” Suite.) I saw Daphnis and Chloe live about a month ago. I left the Symphony hall crying and in a puddle of sheer ecstasy and euphoria. Never have I felt so STIRRED TO MY CORE with such power and stunning musicality from the orchestra and chorus alike. I was in the 3rd row. I could FEEL the music vibrating through me. I saw it by myself, and a lot of older people seemed surprised to see me there, lol. I’m VERY VERY SLOWLY trying to play the 5th Movement of the “Miroirs” Suite on the piano. (I’m not a pianist at all, but a vocalist.) I’m also trying to convince my voice teacher to let me sing Ravel next semester (like his “3 Poems of Melarme,” his Greek Song Cycle, etc), but he’s UNFAMILIAR WITH RAVEL!!!! 😱🥺🥺🥺🥺 So I’m dumbfounded and trying to convert him, lol. Also, for anyone curious, my favorite composers are: Ravel, Schubert, Copland, Chopin, Liszt, Bach, Händel, Messiaen, Fauré, Scriabin, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Rachmaninoff, Reich, Bartók, Elgar, Vaughan-Williams, Gershwin, Lili Boulanger, Busoni… And way more, lol. I need Classical Music friends!!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Really great to read this. Well, all Ravel fans will find friends on this channel! My own journey with Ravel began with Trois Poemes de Mallarmé - I remember hearing it (sung by Jill Gomez with Boulez conducting) and thought it the most beautiful music I’d ever heard. The LH concerto was another early discovery. He is the only composer who published nothing but masterpieces. You are right about Frontispiece. It’s amazing! Good luck with Miroirs! And do learn the Mallarmé songs if you can - you’ll have to find an ensemble to accompany you!
@helenamcginty4920
@helenamcginty4920 Год назад
So your favourites are everyone really. 😊. My mother, a working class girl born in 1920 Stepney London. Even then the immigrant end of the city. But you could go to concerts and the theatre quite cheaply if you sat in the gods. Somehow she grew up in a cultured background. Even if that culture included music hall. She was playing Chopin on her mothers piano by age 9. She used to listen to the bbc classical music programmes and would quiz us during the Lunch time concerts as to who the composer was. She must have picked most of her knowledge up herself but she was a very intelligent woman. So we learned to 'hear' the different instruments and were able to differentiate between the composers. I still enjoy listening to the bbc classical programming. Concerts, talks, etc.
@brianballinger100
@brianballinger100 Год назад
How did he manage to pull off that orchestration? Incredible!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Ravel was a composer of very rare genius and skill, and no composer has ever surpassed his skill as an orchestrator!
@Dylonely42
@Dylonely42 Год назад
@@themusicprofessor No one composer ? I’m sorry I must disagree.
@ianperru266
@ianperru266 Год назад
@@themusicprofessor I must disagree on this one, Ravel is one of the top orchestrators in music history, but i would put two or three other composers on top of him. Mahler, for example.
@BBB-hi4hc
@BBB-hi4hc Год назад
@@ianperru266 Bruh
@yeetthebeet
@yeetthebeet Год назад
@@ianperru266 i would say equal not on top
@Toon444
@Toon444 Год назад
Finally this piece gets some recognition! The prelude of tombeau is so magical to me, it's one of my fav classical pieces for piano. It just has this mistiful sound to it, I love it!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Musicians love it but you're right, there's astonishingly little conversation about some of the greatest music in the world...I guess that's what this channel is about!
@olliemartinelli4034
@olliemartinelli4034 Год назад
They shimmering strings when the woodwind drop out at the end is beautiful and so clever. Almost sounds like fire embers slowly dying
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Excellent description.
@rachmaniwuff8198
@rachmaniwuff8198 Год назад
I absolutely agree! Quite unfortunate that Ravel's genius is rather underrated, but that simply makes his music a hidden gem to enjoy to whoever stumbles upon him and willingly listens to his wonderful compositions! I should really listen to the orchestrations of Le Tombeau de Couperin, because I have only heard the piano transcriptions and I didn't know he orchestrated it!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
you’re right about the hidden gem aspect: there’s something so special about him. I would say he was the Mozart of the 20th century really. I always like Louis Andriessen’s remark about Ravel: “You can’t use the word genius for him. He is far more than that.”
@DenizKupanaha
@DenizKupanaha Год назад
@@themusicprofessor I think one reason might be that while a lot of his music is surprisingly accessible, it becomes ‘amazing’ only once you can appreciate how much is going on. When I was young, I did somewhat like his music, but I wasn’t amazed. Only when I began to like complexity (not intellectual but emotional complexity) and colour did he become one of my favourites.
@AndreyRubtsovRU
@AndreyRubtsovRU Год назад
Underrated? Hidden gem? 😂😂
@AG-tv5hs
@AG-tv5hs Год назад
Ma che cazzo dici? Non è sottovalutato
@kwilo
@kwilo Год назад
Ravel will always be my GOAT
@MrInterestingthings
@MrInterestingthings Год назад
I didn't realize Ravel wrote this around first World War. That really changes my appreciation ! Gaspard 1908. I never forget that I came here for instruction. But just the score and music.
@XQQ-qm8ow
@XQQ-qm8ow Год назад
Indeed everything feels a lot more heartfelt when you realize each of these movements is dedicated to a specific friend he lost in the war. When responding to people asking him why this work is so jubilant and tender considering the terribly bleak context it was composed in, Ravel responded "The dead are sad enough, in their eternal silence."
@robertm2000
@robertm2000 Год назад
Absolutely no question - Ravel is a musical genius, especially at orchestration! I have to say, Ravel is my favorite composer! It bugs people when they ask me, "What about Beethoven?" and I reply, "Beethoven is relentlessly tonal!" And that's why I like Ravel!
@belartful
@belartful Год назад
Funny,Ravel didn't like the music of Beethoven!
@richiejohnson
@richiejohnson Год назад
The final movement is dedicated to two brothers who died their first day of service, 1914. Ravel and Puccini are the only composers that can make me cry.
@gvidalq
@gvidalq Год назад
He doesn't do it through melodramatism. He just simply and intimately points out what is essential to emotion.
@helenamcginty4920
@helenamcginty4920 Год назад
Hmmm. 🤔.
@DenizKupanaha
@DenizKupanaha Год назад
Now I realise what’s going on: that’s how you do a pentatonic glissando on a harp in practice-by turning the c and f down a halftone with the pedals, right? Anything else that’s technically special about that glissando? (Or did you just highlight it because it sounds so wonderful?)
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
You are correct on both fronts. It was highlighted because it sounds so wonderful!
@mrewan6221
@mrewan6221 6 месяцев назад
There are 2187 (3^⁷) different possible arangements of the pedals. Some of these will have "reversed" notes, such as E♯ and F♭ and would rarely be used (maybe when it's the only solution to quick pedal changes). Others will be "repeats", such as E♮ F♭ G♭ and E♮ F♯ G♭, and will be used as needed. Ignoring the "reverses" and "repeats" There are (I think) 950 distinct "scale" sounds. These include all the major scales, to four-note chords, such as E⁷ with E (F♭) G♯ (A♭) B (C♭) D or F♯ᵐᵃʲ⁷: F♯ (G♭) A♯ (B♭) C♯ (D♭) E♯. These are things theatre pit synth players need to know if they want to make harp parts sound good (and if their instrument can do user-defined scales).
@gracewenzel
@gracewenzel Год назад
I had the immense pleasure to see the LSO perform Le Tombeau at the Barbican while I was abroad in London. It moved me so very deeply. (The Forlane is positively magical.)
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
The Forlane has sensational harmony!
@maluse227
@maluse227 Год назад
It's fun taking a stab at thinking about how a piece could be orchestrated when it's absolutely bonkers, and then to see a master do it better than you could have convinced, and in a few ways you yourself had imagined. Love the layout of the video.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Thank you. True. There's no better way of learning to orchestrate than trying to do it yourself and then compare it with the composer's own orchestration!
@azureNotsure
@azureNotsure Год назад
Absolutely love Ravel (and your editing too hahahaha)
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Thank you!
@roberthoffhines5419
@roberthoffhines5419 Год назад
Desert Island piece for me. Both forms.
@UMVELINQANGI
@UMVELINQANGI Год назад
Of course it is the consummate technique of a master orhestrator at play here, but it sounds like pure magic. Ravel was not a mere composer. He was a sorcerer!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Absolutely right!
@Dylonely42
@Dylonely42 Год назад
Ravel was a genius, that’s as simple as that.
@belartful
@belartful Год назад
He was beyond a Genius! In a class all by himself!
@SCRIABINIST
@SCRIABINIST Год назад
The harp really does with providing texture between the original and the orchestrated version. Ravel's fluid, intricate yet concise writing in the winds however, is something purely genius. He was one of the greatest orchestrators of his time along with Scriabin, Mahler etc.
@JeremyRaden
@JeremyRaden Год назад
Scriabin is, in my opinion, the most underrated orchestrator. His first Symphony is absolutely stunning. He should definitely be considered with the likes of Ravel, Mahler, etc.
@PepperWilliams_songcovers
@PepperWilliams_songcovers Год назад
And people have the audacity to call Kanye West a genius! Ravel has always been one of my top five favorite classical composers. 1. Stravinsky, 2. Tchaikovsky, Shostakovitch, Ralph Vaughan Williams, Ravel. But of course, I LOVE ALL STYLES OF CLASSICAL MUSIC (from Bach's Inventions to Xenakis' Jonchaies 1977). Great job!
@Rosie-gd2mn
@Rosie-gd2mn Год назад
glissando? (Every harpist chuckles)
@anne3079
@anne3079 Год назад
I played the violin for this piece in orchestra, and the way all of the instruments come together is absolutely spectacular! Ravel's orchestration of this piece is genius.
@prometheusrex1
@prometheusrex1 Год назад
Such great video work, and your love for this music shining through.
@alhfgsp
@alhfgsp Год назад
Even though I'm not a huge fan of 20th century classical music, Ravel and Rachmaninoff are clear exceptions to this. Both have a wonderful taste for the more modern compositional methods but maintain a grounded classical tonal structure. Respect what worked from the past but embrace the new.
@Kieop
@Kieop Год назад
The orchestration is more dramatic, but the piano is more magical.
@liquiditey
@liquiditey Год назад
Ravel took what was known and understood about musical convention and reinvented the rules for modern composers to grasp =~}
@iks.7048
@iks.7048 Год назад
No questions. Ravel is my favourite composer of all time.
@belartful
@belartful Год назад
Me too!
@jackaguirre8576
@jackaguirre8576 5 месяцев назад
Oh if you think this is good, check out the Woodwind Quintet version of this!
@DaveDexterMusic
@DaveDexterMusic Год назад
got to love how even the wonder of ravel is now being reduced to meme clickbait thumbnails. "is that allowed?" it's a harp gliss, so yes, yes it is
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
If more people get to know about the wonder of Ravel that's surely a good thing.... But it isn't an inane question: the harp gliss creates a pentatonic scale because of the ingenious tuning of the pedals.
@leesmythe3136
@leesmythe3136 Год назад
Harpist here: I love you Maurice! Thank you for giving us that moment to play. I had never felt like I did when I got to play that gliss.
@DrChrisF
@DrChrisF Год назад
2:17 This chord is identical to the start of the finale of Ravel's opera L'enfant et les Sortilèges. Love it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6SmVF7DExE8.html
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Thank you! Yes. You're absolutely right. Isn't that wonderful? It's Am9. Ravel loved minor chords with an added 9th. It's almost a personal signature. Now that you've pointed that out, I'm wondering if it actually was just that. It has a profoundly personal meaning in both pieces.
@marco119w7
@marco119w7 Год назад
1:29 Ravel had that DRIP drip
@cursomyta743
@cursomyta743 Год назад
Tan hermoso!! Brillante Ravel!
@edcew8236
@edcew8236 Год назад
Amazing pieces! But the piano piece is my preference...
@ajmaltaujoo4277
@ajmaltaujoo4277 Год назад
Le tombeau de Couperin was one of the last pieces I played with my youth orchestra before the pandemic hit, and incidentally, it was also my last year of high school. So this piece is always seared into my memory as one of my last joyful orchestral experiences since I'm not doing music in college.
@chianchen776
@chianchen776 Год назад
The orchestral version feels better than, for lack of a better term, sex.
@ericalbany
@ericalbany Год назад
Of course, if you are orchestrating your own work you are allowed to recompose it a bit if you run into difficulties
@pavlenikacevic4976
@pavlenikacevic4976 Год назад
I think this prelude is the most beautiful of Ravel's works
@glstka5710
@glstka5710 Год назад
1:28 Ravel's orchestration is amazing. what he did for Mussorgsky's Pictures at An Exhibition makes the piano piece that mussorgsky wrote seem like a rough draft. I really believe Mussorgsky was planning to orchestrate it all along.
@le_roi_nu
@le_roi_nu 7 месяцев назад
Bon, je m'abonne ! Vos vidéos sont aussi intéressantes qu'elles sont courtes. Trad : Okay, I'm subscribing! Your videos are as interesting as they are short. Thanks !
@jenniferbate9682
@jenniferbate9682 3 дня назад
Wonderful.😊
@Tolkienlady
@Tolkienlady Год назад
Some masterful creations came out of WWI. Ravel composes "Le Tombeau de Couperin," and Tolkien writes "The Lord of The Rings."
@danielhughes441
@danielhughes441 5 месяцев назад
Great piece! Have always loved it. But, honestly, we all know you cannot possibly be stating that it is impossible to orchestrate?! Really?! Kind of the dumbest question I have seen posed in a decade.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 5 месяцев назад
The point the video is making is that this is virtuosic piano music, and yet Ravel manages to transfer it to orchestra it in such a way that it sounds as good as the original. I'm not saying it's impossible to stick instruments in a score - anyone can do that! What's almost impossible is to transfer the medium in such a way as to create the beautifully crafted, almost miraculous miracle of sonority that that Ravel achieves.
@lowe7471
@lowe7471 Год назад
Really great. Thanks for sharing this.
@interex956
@interex956 Год назад
I'd say I'm an absolute Ravel fan, h-o-w-e-v-e-r, I'll be 'that' guy and say I'm not a fan of the orchestrated version of LTDC. A lot of the notes get lost in the mist of longer played notes that don't fade as it would on the piano. When will there be a conductor that asks the woodwinds/strings that play the longer notes to decrescendo immediately and let the triplets stand out? Or perhaps the orchestrated version isn't meant to parody the mechanics of the piano, either way, not a fan. I'm also not a fan of Rachmanninoff's Cello and Piano Sonata since the piano often plays just too LOUD for the cello to be heard. So see, I'm not being a Ravel hater lol. Much love!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Thank you for your comment, and Ravel fans are always welcome on this channel! (...where you will find a couple of other Ravel-related videos). I seem to remember that Vaughan Williams also preferred the piano original to the orchestral version of Tombeau
@4N9vxO3WnK
@4N9vxO3WnK Год назад
Hands down my favourite piece of Classical music
@anon-rf5sx
@anon-rf5sx Год назад
I don't think there are too few Ravel fans, luckily he's famous enough (if only for the Boléro to many people). He clearly is among the first-rate composers. But regarding orchestration alone he is at the top, along with Rimsky-Korsakov and Richard Strauss. And let's not forget Berlioz who was one of the fathers of the modern orchestra and influenced all the three composers mentioned.
@handledav
@handledav Год назад
cool
@ALEJANDROARANDARICKERT
@ALEJANDROARANDARICKERT Год назад
poor Couperin
@journey3451
@journey3451 Год назад
I have subscribed to your channel. I am amazed by your amazing editing skills. I can't play an instrument at all, but I'm a passing Japanese who has a hobby of writing scores. I will stop by again.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Thanks for the support!
@jessenebeker4942
@jessenebeker4942 Год назад
Absolutely lovely. With my attention span I probably wouldn't be here if it weren't for the clickbait, but I'm not mad about it 😅
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
My brilliant plan has worked...
@MonkeyBars1
@MonkeyBars1 Год назад
Not sure about the premise here. Ravel's piano writing is very colorful and textural. I think it's a natural fit to be orchestrated. I don't think it could be done better than Ravel did it however 👍🏻
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
I would argue that Ravel was the first composer to take virtuoso piano writing and realise it with equal success in a virtuosic orchestral context. His orchestrations of 'Une Barque sur l'Ocean' and 'Alborada del Gracioso' are particularly remarkable.
@izzyk867
@izzyk867 Год назад
Perfectly crafted & beautiful video, somewhat like Ravel’s compositions! Thank you.
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 Год назад
very cool
@kpunkt.klaviermusik
@kpunkt.klaviermusik Год назад
It's sort of steam punk music. This is not at all baroque music, couldn't be played with baroque instruments - but it gives the impression of some high tech baroque machinery...
@BegoneJonah
@BegoneJonah Год назад
The minuet is the most amazing part of this collection for me. That middle portion seems to be on the verge of despair (he was remembering a departed friend, surely), but pulls itself way back towards the light in such an elegant way. Nobody but Ravel could have managed this.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
It is wonderful. The middle section is a 'musette' (with a 5th drone running through it, but shifting register and colour with extraordinary subtlety). You're absolutely right about the "pulling back towards the light in such an elegant way", and in the process, he combines moth melodies with consummate skill. The Rigaudon also has a beautiful quiet middle section, tinged with a sense of regret and loss. The return to the boisterous Rigaudon material is deliberately abrupt as if Ravel is saying, "Time to put a brave face on it." There's a fascinating article on line by Jillian Rogers about Ravel and his post-war music: www.cambridge.org/core/journals/nineteenth-century-music-review/article/musical-magic-words-trauma-and-the-politics-of-mourning-in-ravels-le-tombeau-de-couperin-frontispice-and-la-valse/9E0903200BA51B9EE28309C188A4972D
@BegoneJonah
@BegoneJonah Год назад
@@themusicprofessor It is an interesting article - thanks for the link! I can't say I agree with all of it, and I am puzzled by the author's neglect in the Tombeau section to address the Minuet, which I think is the emotional heart of the suite. Well - for me, anyway. I first discovered this work when I was sixteen, and unlettered as I was I knew it had something unusual and profound to say, even if I couldn't describe what it was. Getting back to the Minuet, lately it has occurred to me that while the opening section has a restrained cheerfulness, the return of it after that musette makes it sound positively joyous. Such is the effect of contrast, I guess. The French. What would Western civilization be without them?
@philippedavid3591
@philippedavid3591 Год назад
Thank you so much M. Music Professor. As a non professional composer myself, what should I say ? The music of Ravel is so fascinating ! I need to look into it ! How could it work so perfectly ?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Thank you. I guess it works perfectly because of the exceptional poetic refinement and precision of its creator!
@philippedavid3591
@philippedavid3591 Год назад
@@themusicprofessor Yes, thank you for your answer. I consider the poetic part very important when I compose myself but, of course, I can't write as Ravel did. I will pursue nevertheless.
@Sphereal
@Sphereal Год назад
The moment at 1:44 in the orchestral version is so gorgeous. That tetrachord sounds like heaven (Em on top of Am, so basically Am11).
@StudSupreme
@StudSupreme Год назад
It seems more suited for an orchestra. A beautiful piano piece, but the single instrument overly constrains it.
@andycarter9845
@andycarter9845 Год назад
Nobuo Uematsu is clearly a fan of Ravel.
@albertinedisparue6696
@albertinedisparue6696 Год назад
❤️❤️❤️
@edgarreitz7067
@edgarreitz7067 4 месяца назад
I dont like the orchestral version. Its a imaginative orchestration, but you really hear that he orchestrated the original one. Im more a fan of making a whole new piece of art out of the orchestra. And the ending? Harp for glissando, o cmon!
@cooljc72
@cooljc72 Год назад
My favourite orchestral piece. The orchestration in pure genius as is the composition itself.
@adamcarr9442
@adamcarr9442 7 месяцев назад
Anyone who knows Ravel is a fan. Are there any lukewarm Ravel fans? Hook 'em with Bolero and then show them the really good stuff!
@dolittle6781
@dolittle6781 7 месяцев назад
Brings tears of ecstasy to the eyes, the heart, the soul, and most of all the body, gushing forth in its erotic symbolism magnified beyond all expectations.
@geuros
@geuros Год назад
You need to realise that if it is the composer doing the transcription, he knows best what was his point with the original instrument in the first place and instead of just rewriting it for orchestra, he recomposes that for orchestra in order to achieve the same goal. Add to that his incredible skill of orchestration, you get this.
@shonix123
@shonix123 Год назад
Amazing.. but i think he hates the oboes!!!!! It s hard to blew and play that t that.....
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Ravel's oboe writing is always hard. He seems to have enjoyed giving oboists a tough time. Daphnis & Chloe has a terrifying high G near the start.
@chianchen776
@chianchen776 Год назад
Was Ravel a pioneer for using harps? My limited knowledge tells me he’s like a pioneer for many instrument usage( saxophone, snare, and probably the first one knew how to write brasses) if so we really really gave him too little credits.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Well, a lot of composers have been innovative in their writing for instruments. But yes Ravel writes fabulously well for all instruments, and his harp writing is justly celebrated. His introduction and Allegro for harp and ensemble is a wonderful early showcase for the instrument, and features an amazing solo cadenza. In the G major piano concerto, he composed another very beautiful cadenza-like solo passage for harp.
@Hailey_Paige_1937
@Hailey_Paige_1937 Год назад
Berlioz is the first composer to have used the harp in his “Symphonie Fantastique,” but Ravel was definitely the master!
@belartful
@belartful Год назад
In Daphne and Chole ,he uses a wind machine!
@willardsteele4857
@willardsteele4857 Год назад
An interesting experiment is to compare the different orchestrations of Picture at an Exhibition. You can hear Ravel’s greatness there. All other orchestration dull in comparison.
@jonathanchavez9009
@jonathanchavez9009 Год назад
I constantly go back and forth with regard to which version is my favorite (piano or orchestra). This piece is one of my favorites of Ravel, it never gets old
@BrentLeVasseur
@BrentLeVasseur 10 месяцев назад
That’s why Ravel is the King of orchestration! And the cool thing about these examples where he takes his own piano compositions and orchestrates them, is we can see his genius at work, where as with other orchestral composers you don’t often get to see their piano sketches beforehand.
@PointyTailofSatan
@PointyTailofSatan Год назад
It's always surprising that Ravel wrote some of the most difficult piano pieces, yet was never considered a great pianist. His true calling was his own orchestral works, and his orchestral transcriptions.
@belartful
@belartful Год назад
He didnt want to be a pianist,,he COULD have been a great Pianist ,if he had wanted to,but choose to be a Composer better!
@maxchapuis6256
@maxchapuis6256 Год назад
Hello, why would it be impossible to orchestrate please ?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
The question is asked in the context of music that seems to be composed entirely in terms of virtuosic piano technique - it does not seem 'orchestral' in any conventional sense. All the keyboard virtuosity has to be reimagined in terms of other instruments, and the sustaining resonance of the pedal has to be recreated in terms of sustained harmony behind the foreground activity. The fact that Ravel makes it sound equally natural for orchestra is a real triumph of compositional imagination and skill.
@maxchapuis6256
@maxchapuis6256 Год назад
@@themusicprofessor Thanks for sharing your perspective. It makes me think to "Danza Ritual del Fuego" of Manuel De Falla. It was first a symphonic piece (from "El Amor Brujo"). However, De Falla managed to transcribe this piece for piano solo. And the miracle is that it fits perfectly with the fingers, the movements of the hand. This piece is very digital, one pianist can feel it. So, this is the same logic of transposition your were talking about, but on that case, the contrary. Have a good night / day. Cheers
@josephmarcello7481
@josephmarcello7481 Месяц назад
Excellent presentation! As by far and away my favorite composer of all time - and I say that as a composer of some 60 odd years, reveals muses and magic are truly beyond comprehension. As Ned roarham road in one of his many books, Even in the view of his fellow composers, both contemporary and posthumous, ,' no one complained, no one remained unimpressed' by this master of Masters. One of the reasons he is so easily overlooked is because his music, despite its profound complexity and Majesty, he's not pretentious. Pretentious. It does not announce itself as special and ostentatiously glorious. Like much French art of the highest caliber, it is experienced as completely natural and inevitable, as egoless and pristine as a spring morning. And yet, in spite of hundreds, thousands of hours of deep study and research on his compositional and orchestrational technique, I have never even begun to find a composer of parallel gifts, except, at times, perhaps the youngstervinsky in his miraculous ballet works. And even he had to tip his hat to the miraculous ,' mountain peak,' of ravels, consummate, masterwork, Daphnis and Chloe' Indeed, Even as a lifelong classical guitarist, I was driven to learn Le Tombeau on the piano keyboard for the sheer joy of executing ravelle's magic under my fingers. And, after all these many years of immersion in his art, and all the understanding that I have managed to accrue, they remains the inexplicable Transcendence of his creations, which are the result of a very pure, extremely uncompromising soul, compared to which, I am sorry to say, but with few exceptions - The brilliant and beautiful American Samuel Barber being won, they're a very, very few composers who have even begun to approach his depth. Bravo Maurice!
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Месяц назад
Wonderful comment. Thank you!
@cristhianperez2076
@cristhianperez2076 Год назад
I love these videos so much
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Thank you!
@dann234
@dann234 Год назад
Ravel is one of the greatest composers of the impressionistic era. Although, he, himself isn't an impressionist, he is indeed associated with this era of classical music. - A reference to the book, "Ravel"
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
One of the greatest composers of any era!
@dann234
@dann234 Год назад
@@themusicprofessor Very true, (in my opinion,) If they don't like Ravel, they either may not be a fan and just think of a select few of classical baroque composers, or they just don't like them and are educated at the same time. Ravel is personally one, if not my favorite composer.
@rachmaniwuff8198
@rachmaniwuff8198 Год назад
​@@dann234 Personally, I absolutely love Ravel too! From the way I see it, I think the reason why not everyone appreciates his work is because not everyone can understand it. (And that is perfectly fine.) His music always needs a keen ear or two to be able to uncover the beauty of it that almost cannot be scratched just on the surface!
@Dylonely42
@Dylonely42 Год назад
@@rachmaniwuff8198 Yeah like Rachmaninoff too
@DenizKupanaha
@DenizKupanaha Год назад
I personally think it’s nowadays okay to call Ravel an impressionist. We probably mean something different now than what Ravel had in mind. While Ravel is special, he’s clearly part of a particular era, and it’s now just a convention to call it Impressionism. That’s just how I think about it :)
@ЕгорЧернявский-н5я
Well, it's different music
@pascalpoussin1209
@pascalpoussin1209 Год назад
Bravo, very nice video.
@arataka57
@arataka57 Год назад
Wonder why he wrote a key signature, his music sounds modal with an open key
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
It's in E minor, hence the key signature. The music does indeed have plenty of modal elements: Ravel had a preference for pentatonicism and flattened 7ths.
@williamfeng9808
@williamfeng9808 Год назад
Apologize if I’m incorrect, but wasn’t this movement orchestrated by Zoltan Kocsis and not Ravel?
@gracewenzel
@gracewenzel Год назад
As I recall, Kocsis orchestrated the Fugue and the Toccata. Ravel did the other four.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Ravel orchestrated four of the movements in 1919 (see the description above). He chose not to orchestrate the fugue and the toccata but these two movements have subsequently been orchestrated by other people.
@alasdairsorley
@alasdairsorley Год назад
I've only recently discovered Ravel thanks to you, and crikey am I glad I did, this piece is amazing, especially the way he manages to orchestrate it. I have been listening to it on repeat
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Ravel is one of the great journeys of life!
@Hailey_Paige_1937
@Hailey_Paige_1937 Год назад
You definitely need to check out more of his works. I have a few recommendations, if you’d like: Daphnis et Chloé Miroirs La Valse Introduction et Allegro His 2 Piano Concerti I have more, but I don’t want to overload you. 😂
@BenTrem42
@BenTrem42 10 месяцев назад
Is Ravel's orchestration of Mussorgsky's "Pictures" illustrative of his abilities? _(I don't know enough to judge; only know I love it!)_
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 10 месяцев назад
Certainly - it's a magnificent orchestration!
@BenTrem42
@BenTrem42 10 месяцев назад
@@themusicprofessor 😳
@Poeme340
@Poeme340 5 месяцев назад
When I can’t think of any music I want to hear…I always come back to this one piece and it sounds fresh, life affirming and radiant-genius.
@Berny27
@Berny27 Год назад
PRAISE GOD!!!!!!!
@null8295
@null8295 Год назад
who is the best orchestrator of all time?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Well, Ravel is one of the best. There are quite a few amazing composers for orchestra, several of them in the 20th century.
@pyrdepavkki1601
@pyrdepavkki1601 Год назад
Do you happen to offer critique for pieces by your subscribers?
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
It's possible. We might make a video at some point, featuring this kind of thing, if enough people send in pieces...
@pyrdepavkki1601
@pyrdepavkki1601 Год назад
I've spent the last few months obsessing over the orchestral version... This piece is amazing
@uigliam
@uigliam Год назад
😑❤️
@RealLifeMassMultiplayerRPG
@RealLifeMassMultiplayerRPG Год назад
love how you visualise it
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor Год назад
Thank you!
@nuberiffic
@nuberiffic 6 месяцев назад
Why would you even think this would be impossible to orchestrate? Ravel just took the notes and... did them. There's nothing amazing going on.
@themusicprofessor
@themusicprofessor 6 месяцев назад
Sure...
@nuberiffic
@nuberiffic 6 месяцев назад
@@themusicprofessor what an in depth and well thought out response.
@123-v6g2t
@123-v6g2t Год назад
Ravel be playing random shit and the world be like OMG ITS GENIUS
@specialperson335
@specialperson335 Год назад
You just outed yourself
@jeremy8473
@jeremy8473 Год назад
what?
@123-v6g2t
@123-v6g2t Год назад
Baited LOL
@BBB-hi4hc
@BBB-hi4hc Год назад
This is what happen when some parents let their child too young access to the internet.
@123-v6g2t
@123-v6g2t Год назад
@@BBB-hi4hc its just a joke brother
@jyhherng
@jyhherng 6 месяцев назад
what a wonderful piece!
@gilfuckingdiamant
@gilfuckingdiamant Год назад
It's quite possible that the last movement of the Couperin suite and the first movement of Gaspard de la nuit are my two favorite pieces of music, of any music ever. Just, unbelievable.
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