Maurio McCoy Skates Stage 4 Trucks! My Indys 

Totally different geometry. No offence to him it’s just simple science.

​​@@memorysometimers3067he somewhat states it's mad science or a Frankenstein design, I really love his approach, I'm always mixing things up and when it works well it's magical and unique 😊 it's an happy science (frolleken wissencraft 🫒)

Indeed!

Yeah seriously 😆

It's not totally different geometry, it obviously doesn't affect him much. I'm actually surprised that he skates 146s and not the 151s. I got those to upsize some Ace AF1 44s. Stage 4 =beefy AF1

exactly, They did not have the bushings in different soft, medium, hard. But I reached out to Indy manager and he made them. so now you can ride medium and hard bushings in the stage 4

the red is soft

Im going to have to try out some conical bushings or a combination of 94a-92a stage 4 bushings to see if ill keep them in rotation went with the 146's to see their fliptrick/potential on popsicles and smaller/tapered nose shaped decks. But the smaller hanger than im used to with conical fulls...makes it way harder to lock in and stay/sit on grinds. The cylinder bottom bushing was an easier aspect to get used to with the stage4...but i still have to run conicals/mids bc i grew too used to the stage XI/X height and conical bushing feel/control. IDK after running 94a bottom and 92a top conicals for so many years. I cant even consider aces bc their bushing/combo is inverted compared to how i run mine. They run a softer bottom...and slightly harder top...even in their "hard" bushing kit....id have to run their "harder" bottom with their stock top bushing. Plus their premium price point. Id rather spend the same amount on stage 4's and a few sets of bushings. ESP if these are going to be a novelty/discontinued.

Jim Phillips yeah? My brain box don’t recall so good all the time. (And I’m too lazy to go grab Disposable off the shelf.) Sean Cliver is awesome also. (And a ton of other people). SKATEBOARDING!

These are better. The build. The grind is unmistakably better imo .. but I do love the af1 33 lows

I like ACE AF1's, also. but I ride mostly INDY. The Hollow Forged 144'' and 149'' Are some of my favorite trucks. I still haven't tried the Ace Af1 hollows tho

@@TRAVIESO_NA I like the weight of hollows, but I dont like hollow hangers. Ace hanger with a forged Indy baseplate works really well if you are OK with mixing. The AF1s are great, if you want to shave some weight just put the hanger on a hollow Ace baseplate. I wish I could weigh both to see the baseplate weight difference.

I’m tempted to try because I feel like I’d like the length of the 146 better than my 144’s 🤔

@@Rayjay009 Just do it. It´s cheap, reversible and fun.

I'm the same. Use 144s on 8" deck. The wheels line up perfectly then and so it doesn't look like I'm floating. That's ideal for me.

8.38 with 159s for years now riding 6.1s too. For me the trick is in your variety of skating. If youre willing to run wider contact patch like conical fulls/radial fulls, The wide patch also eats into the hanger/clearance towards your kingpin...so it also changes the stability/balance of your board when riding/setting up tricks. extra hanger space for cross hanger locked crooks/tweaked nose grinds...and solid lockin space for feeble/smiths in transition. You really feel the difference with 360/cab variations, or big spins.

@@anhiirr as in although cross locked grinds may feel better rotational tricks like 360s or tre flips may be more difficult? Is that what you’re saying essentially?

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Forged hollow!!!! Let’s bring that height down 1.5 mm and get my 136’s a little tighter

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It’s not. I tried when I got them. It’s laughable

I'vw gor both. the basplates have a different look but they're actually identical in fit. the stage 4 hanger fits exaclty the same on a stage 11 baseplate

@@DrRhomboid_Goatcabin i have some og stage 5 or 6 149s with grindking kingpins

It's a forged hollow stage 11 baseplate. These have regular kingpins so he can use normal stage 11 bushings.

It's a forged hollow stage 11 baseplate. These have regular kingpins so he can use normal stage 11 bushings.

Orange stage 11 barrel bottom and red stage 11 soft top on a stage 11 baseplate. The stage 4 bushings are too tall.

@@Scalamander stage 4 bottom bushing and stage 11 top bushing works. i just find there was too much threads showing at the top, his doesnt seem to have that issue. Was just curiosity on my part.

The iron cross was inspired by the Pope's robes (seriously🤢🤮). I'm glad they're phasing it out. I always hated white-supremacists sporting independent truck clothing.

@@snazzfab you’re wrong but ok. Nothing to do with “white supremacy”

I like the screws flush with the nut, but I ride 1/8 risers so I use 1" shortys hardware

I just like 1in for the extra room. Especially if you’re forced to use or get some shiddy hardware.

​@goobah1389 extra room?