Baer had terrific power in both hands and could have also been devastating with body shots but didn't appear to put that on his list of priorities Instead, he was a straight up, vicious headhunter. I bet he was a holy terror in bar fights
Primo Carnera is a much maligned fighter and champion and the subject of so much on-going libel and slander that wanna-be boxing historians fall for the falsehoods generated in the 1930’s without digging deep for the truth of the man and his career. That’s why lawsuits are commenced against those who commit libelous and slanderous publications and statements ... the fabrications live on and needlessly destroy reputations of worthy individuals. A shining example is Carnera’s fight against Max Baer in 1934. Carnera was stopped in the 11th round. How often have you read where Carnera is praised for his courage in fighting on a broken ankle suffered in the 1st round when Baer knocked him down? In fact, Carnera could put no weight on his foot, ankle, or leg throughout the duration of the fight and had significant balance problems, as well, and an inability to set to get punching leverage, yet, after the 10th round Carnera was leading in the fight where he showed resilience, guts, pride and determination to hold onto that Title. Disbursed film footage of the fight was altered deleting portions of the interior rounds when Carnera lodged a vicious attack on Baer to turn the fight to Carnera’s favor going into the 11th round. Alas, Carnera’s mobility was so hampered and Baer, to his credit, was able to land shots on a relatively defenseless Carnera and resume control of the fight to the point that Carnera asked it to be stopped as he limped about the ring seeking respite from the Baer come-back. Carnera was taken to the hospital following the fight where he remained while his fractured ankle was cared for and treated. The ankle fracture hampered him for the duration of his career. Read the BoxRec biographical coverage of Primo Carnera and you’ll see the continuation of a half a century plus of the on-going slights and denigrations against Carnera. For one example, there is no mention of Carnera persevering 11 rounds with a fractured ankle in fighting Baer yet the biographical sketch authors had the audacity to include, in its coverage of Carnera, a claim that Carnera stepped on and broke Tommy Loughran’s toes in a Carnera title defense ... still, yet, another denigrating untruth about Carnera alluding to allegations that Carnera was devoid of footwork. Keep in mind that boxing historian Bert Sugar left us revealing that Carnera would have beaten the Klitchko brothers. An assiduous study of his fight films reveals that Primo Carnera was a great fighter and one not given the respect owed to him as the great fighter he was and an unheralded knockout artist of the first order. Compare, for example, Jack Sharkey being knocked out by Dempsey, Louis and Carnera. Carnera rendered Sharkey totally unconscious with a single shot whereas neither Louis nor Dempsey exhibited that kind of firepower in their fights with Sharkey.
@@JABARDELLI I'm just proud of him because we both came from the same land. Carnera is a kind of regional and national hero for us Furlans. Citizens of Friuli.
what you talking about embarrassment Max Baer was the first showing of boxing and if you want to get for real he was probably the first great MMA fighter he was not an embarrassment he was a great fighter at one time and was a good person
Really makes you appreciate the mandatory 8 count. The fact that fighters could resume fighting before the opponent has even stood up doesn't make for good sport, it may as well be MMA.
Clearly you don’t watch MMA because this fight would have been stopped long before this ref allowed it to continue. I’m talking the highest levels of MMA, not regional circuit, sideshows.
seen some odd comment saying how the 30s-40s were in black in white and at a lower fps that's why they look way less advanced and if they were in color with higher fps they would be more advanced Is that possible it can fix obsolete flaws and add better tech/fluid/timing/defense can adding color and higher fps manipulate footage so they would look as advanced as guys in 70s-90s?
One thing many people can't seem to get though their heads is that just because someone is big doesn't mean they are tougher than any smaller guy. I've been around a long time and seen many big guys get their asses kicked by someone smaller than they are.
@@fabriziolacaccia6025 Primo Carnera is a much maligned fighter and champion and the subject of so much on-going libel and slander that wanna-be boxing historians fall for the falsehoods generated in the 1930’s without digging deep for the truth of the man and his career. That’s why lawsuits are commenced against those who commit libelous and slanderous publications and statements ... the fabrications live on and needlessly destroy reputations of worthy individuals. A shining example is Carnera’s fight against Max Baer in 1934. Carnera was stopped in the 11th round. How often have you read where Carnera is praised for his courage in fighting on a broken ankle suffered in the 1st round when Baer knocked him down? In fact, Carnera could put no weight on his foot, ankle, or leg throughout the duration of the fight and had significant balance problems, as well, and an inability to set to get punching leverage, yet, after the 10th round Carnera was leading in the fight where he showed resilience, guts, pride and determination to hold onto that Title. Disbursed film footage of the fight was altered deleting portions of the interior rounds when Carnera lodged a vicious attack on Baer to turn the fight to Carnera’s favor going into the 11th round. Alas, Carnera’s mobility was so hampered and Baer, to his credit, was able to land shots on a relatively defenseless Carnera and resume control of the fight to the point that Carnera asked it to be stopped as he limped about the ring seeking respite from the Baer come-back. Carnera was taken to the hospital following the fight where he remained while his fractured ankle was cared for and treated. The ankle fracture hampered him for the duration of his career. Read the BoxRec biographical coverage of Primo Carnera and you’ll see the continuation of a half a century plus of the on-going slights and denigrations against Carnera. For one example, there is no mention of Carnera persevering 11 rounds with a fractured ankle in fighting Baer yet the biographical sketch authors had the audacity to include, in its coverage of Carnera, a claim that Carnera stepped on and broke Tommy Loughran’s toes in a Carnera title defense ... still, yet, another denigrating untruth about Carnera alluding to allegations that Carnera was devoid of footwork. Keep in mind that boxing historian Bert Sugar left us revealing that Carnera would have beaten the Klitchko brothers. An assiduous study of his fight films reveals that Primo Carnera was a great fighter and one not given the respect owed to him as the great fighter he was and an unheralded knockout artist of the first order. Compare, for example, Jack Sharkey being knocked out by Dempsey, Louis and Carnera. Carnera rendered Sharkey totally unconscious with a single shot whereas neither Louis nor Dempsey exhibited that kind of firepower in their fights with Sharkey.
А бой не продажный был с Роем. Рой уже не тот и все. А Лебедев был на пике. Уже последние победные бои Роя в карьере показали его спад. Он уже больше танцевал. Рой из тех у кого есть природная скорость и сила. Но все это уходит с молодостью. Взять того же Флойда Мейвезера или даже Виталия Кличко. У них нет особой скорости и удара, но есть мозги. Они профессоры в мире бокса. Как говорят многие: "У Флойда есть талант, у Роя была молодость". Тот же Пакияо на одной природе все гасил. Флойд просто пробегал от него и подрался с тем что осталось от Пака. В лучшие годы как и Рой Джонс подметил, Пак прошелся бы по Флойду и глазом не моргнул. Хотя они с Флойдом ровесники, у Флойда талант стратегический, у Пака и у Роя физический и генетический. Лет 15 назад Рой конечно поигрался бы с Лебедем и выключил его.
Айвар Давлетчин абсолютно с тобой не согласен брат, на каком бы пике не был бы Лебедев, с таким как Рой он сравниться не мог никогда и на счёт Пакияо он как раз очень толковый у Флойда была победа но досталась она с большим трудом, на счёт Кличко ты прав 100%. единственное что можно ещё сегодня смотреть так это бирманский бокс lethwei там на столько всё жёстко, что сразу понятно что бои не куплены.
Так как не мог то?)) Рой проигрывает тем кого Лебедев легко одолеет. Они ниже его по любому рейтингу. Тогда давай скажем что Рой вообще под всех ложиться чтобы его не выгнали из России. Но мне при все уважении к Рою, приятнее думать что он стар, но не хочет этого признавать.
Primo Carnera is a much maligned fighter and champion and the subject of so much on-going libel and slander that wanna-be boxing historians fall for the falsehoods generated in the 1930’s without digging deep for the truth of the man and his career. That’s why lawsuits are commenced against those who commit libelous and slanderous publications and statements ... the fabrications live on and needlessly destroy reputations of worthy individuals. A shining example is Carnera’s fight against Max Baer in 1934. Carnera was stopped in the 11th round. How often have you read where Carnera is praised for his courage in fighting on a broken ankle suffered in the 1st round when Baer knocked him down? In fact, Carnera could put no weight on his foot, ankle, or leg throughout the duration of the fight and had significant balance problems, as well, and an inability to set to get punching leverage, yet, after the 10th round Carnera was leading in the fight where he showed resilience, guts, pride and determination to hold onto that Title. Disbursed film footage of the fight was altered deleting portions of the interior rounds when Carnera lodged a vicious attack on Baer to turn the fight to Carnera’s favor going into the 11th round. Alas, Carnera’s mobility was so hampered and Baer, to his credit, was able to land shots on a relatively defenseless Carnera and resume control of the fight to the point that Carnera asked it to be stopped as he limped about the ring seeking respite from the Baer come-back. Carnera was taken to the hospital following the fight where he remained while his fractured ankle was cared for and treated. The ankle fracture hampered him for the duration of his career. Read the BoxRec biographical coverage of Primo Carnera and you’ll see the continuation of a half a century plus of the on-going slights and denigrations against Carnera. For one example, there is no mention of Carnera persevering 11 rounds with a fractured ankle in fighting Baer yet the biographical sketch authors had the audacity to include, in its coverage of Carnera, a claim that Carnera stepped on and broke Tommy Loughran’s toes in a Carnera title defense ... still, yet, another denigrating untruth about Carnera alluding to allegations that Carnera was devoid of footwork. Keep in mind that boxing historian Bert Sugar left us revealing that Carnera would have beaten the Klitchko brothers. An assiduous study of his fight films reveals that Primo Carnera was a great fighter and one not given the respect owed to him as the great fighter he was and an unheralded knockout artist of the first order. Compare, for example, Jack Sharkey being knocked out by Dempsey, Louis and Carnera. Carnera rendered Sharkey totally unconscious with a single shot whereas neither Louis nor Dempsey exhibited that kind of firepower in their fights with Sharkey.
@WhiteDragon I actually disagree with the original comment, but still you kind of need footwork in boxing :D (though probably that would not have drastically changed the course of the match)
Primo Carnera is a much maligned fighter and champion and the subject of so much on-going libel and slander that wanna-be boxing historians fall for the falsehoods generated in the 1930’s without digging deep for the truth of the man and his career. That’s why lawsuits are commenced against those who commit libelous and slanderous publications and statements ... the fabrications live on and needlessly destroy reputations of worthy individuals. A shining example is Carnera’s fight against Max Baer in 1934. Carnera was stopped in the 11th round. How often have you read where Carnera is praised for his courage in fighting on a broken ankle suffered in the 1st round when Baer knocked him down? In fact, Carnera could put no weight on his foot, ankle, or leg throughout the duration of the fight and had significant balance problems, as well, and an inability to set to get punching leverage, yet, after the 10th round Carnera was leading in the fight where he showed resilience, guts, pride and determination to hold onto that Title. Disbursed film footage of the fight was altered deleting portions of the interior rounds when Carnera lodged a vicious attack on Baer to turn the fight to Carnera’s favor going into the 11th round. Alas, Carnera’s mobility was so hampered and Baer, to his credit, was able to land shots on a relatively defenseless Carnera and resume control of the fight to the point that Carnera asked it to be stopped as he limped about the ring seeking respite from the Baer come-back. Carnera was taken to the hospital following the fight where he remained while his fractured ankle was cared for and treated. The ankle fracture hampered him for the duration of his career. Read the BoxRec biographical coverage of Primo Carnera and you’ll see the continuation of a half a century plus of the on-going slights and denigrations against Carnera. For one example, there is no mention of Carnera persevering 11 rounds with a fractured ankle in fighting Baer yet the biographical sketch authors had the audacity to include, in its coverage of Carnera, a claim that Carnera stepped on and broke Tommy Loughran’s toes in a Carnera title defense ... still, yet, another denigrating untruth about Carnera alluding to allegations that Carnera was devoid of footwork. Keep in mind that boxing historian Bert Sugar left us revealing that Carnera would have beaten the Klitchko brothers. An assiduous study of his fight films reveals that Primo Carnera was a great fighter and one not given the respect owed to him as the great fighter he was and an unheralded knockout artist of the first order. Compare, for example, Jack Sharkey being knocked out by Dempsey, Louis and Carnera. Carnera rendered Sharkey totally unconscious with a single shot whereas neither Louis nor Dempsey exhibited that kind of firepower in their fights with Sharkey.
seen some odd comment saying how the 30s-40s were in black in white and at a lower fps that's why they look way less advanced and if they were in color with higher fps they would be more advanced Is that possible it can fix obsolete flaws and add better tech/fluid/timing/defense can adding color and higher fps manipulate footage so they would look as advanced as guys in 70s-90s?
No doubt Primo Carnera had great heart but Max Baer was easily the superior fighter. Primo could take a punch and could fight. Max was amazing both in boxing skills and power.
Primo Carnera is a much maligned fighter and champion and the subject of so much on-going libel and slander that wanna-be boxing historians fall for the falsehoods generated in the 1930’s without digging deep for the truth of the man and his career. That’s why lawsuits are commenced against those who commit libelous and slanderous publications and statements ... the fabrications live on and needlessly destroy reputations of worthy individuals. A shining example is Carnera’s fight against Max Baer in 1934. Carnera was stopped in the 11th round. How often have you read where Carnera is praised for his courage in fighting on a broken ankle suffered in the 1st round when Baer knocked him down? In fact, Carnera could put no weight on his foot, ankle, or leg throughout the duration of the fight and had significant balance problems, as well, and an inability to set to get punching leverage, yet, after the 10th round Carnera was leading in the fight where he showed resilience, guts, pride and determination to hold onto that Title. Disbursed film footage of the fight was altered deleting portions of the interior rounds when Carnera lodged a vicious attack on Baer to turn the fight to Carnera’s favor going into the 11th round. Alas, Carnera’s mobility was so hampered and Baer, to his credit, was able to land shots on a relatively defenseless Carnera and resume control of the fight to the point that Carnera asked it to be stopped as he limped about the ring seeking respite from the Baer come-back. Carnera was taken to the hospital following the fight where he remained while his fractured ankle was cared for and treated. The ankle fracture hampered him for the duration of his career. Read the BoxRec biographical coverage of Primo Carnera and you’ll see the continuation of a half a century plus of the on-going slights and denigrations against Carnera. For one example, there is no mention of Carnera persevering 11 rounds with a fractured ankle in fighting Baer yet the biographical sketch authors had the audacity to include, in its coverage of Carnera, a claim that Carnera stepped on and broke Tommy Loughran’s toes in a Carnera title defense ... still, yet, another denigrating untruth about Carnera alluding to allegations that Carnera was devoid of footwork. Keep in mind that boxing historian Bert Sugar left us revealing that Carnera would have beaten the Klitchko brothers. An assiduous study of his fight films reveals that Primo Carnera was a great fighter and one not given the respect owed to him as the great fighter he was and an unheralded knockout artist of the first order. Compare, for example, Jack Sharkey being knocked out by Dempsey, Louis and Carnera. Carnera rendered Sharkey totally unconscious with a single shot whereas neither Louis nor Dempsey exhibited that kind of firepower in their fights with Sharkey.
The ref was doing the best he could. Carneras kept holding everytime he was about to drop and he would pull Baer down with him. He should of had points deducted. You'd get disqualified for that today
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Carnera doveva perdere in modo umiliante e Max stravincere, ma se uno guarda l' incontro di Max con Joe Luis del 1935 capisce come stanno le cose...realmente .lo hanno fatto vincere per sostenere la propaganda ebrea sul fascismo , patetici americani che si fanno gli incontri su misura per mettere sui piedistallo i loro miti con la stella di Davide nei pantaloncini..no comment !
@@heisenberg4977 Primo Carnera is a much maligned fighter and champion and the subject of so much on-going libel and slander that wanna-be boxing historians fall for the falsehoods generated in the 1930’s without digging deep for the truth of the man and his career. That’s why lawsuits are commenced against those who commit libelous and slanderous publications and statements ... the fabrications live on and needlessly destroy reputations of worthy individuals. A shining example is Carnera’s fight against Max Baer in 1934. Carnera was stopped in the 11th round. How often have you read where Carnera is praised for his courage in fighting on a broken ankle suffered in the 1st round when Baer knocked him down? In fact, Carnera could put no weight on his foot, ankle, or leg throughout the duration of the fight and had significant balance problems, as well, and an inability to set to get punching leverage, yet, after the 10th round Carnera was leading in the fight where he showed resilience, guts, pride and determination to hold onto that Title. Disbursed film footage of the fight was altered deleting portions of the interior rounds when Carnera lodged a vicious attack on Baer to turn the fight to Carnera’s favor going into the 11th round. Alas, Carnera’s mobility was so hampered and Baer, to his credit, was able to land shots on a relatively defenseless Carnera and resume control of the fight to the point that Carnera asked it to be stopped as he limped about the ring seeking respite from the Baer come-back. Carnera was taken to the hospital following the fight where he remained while his fractured ankle was cared for and treated. The ankle fracture hampered him for the duration of his career. Read the BoxRec biographical coverage of Primo Carnera and you’ll see the continuation of a half a century plus of the on-going slights and denigrations against Carnera. For one example, there is no mention of Carnera persevering 11 rounds with a fractured ankle in fighting Baer yet the biographical sketch authors had the audacity to include, in its coverage of Carnera, a claim that Carnera stepped on and broke Tommy Loughran’s toes in a Carnera title defense ... still, yet, another denigrating untruth about Carnera alluding to allegations that Carnera was devoid of footwork. Keep in mind that boxing historian Bert Sugar left us revealing that Carnera would have beaten the Klitchko brothers. An assiduous study of his fight films reveals that Primo Carnera was a great fighter and one not given the respect owed to him as the great fighter he was and an unheralded knockout artist of the first order. Compare, for example, Jack Sharkey being knocked out by Dempsey, Louis and Carnera. Carnera rendered Sharkey totally unconscious with a single shot whereas neither Louis nor Dempsey exhibited that kind of firepower in their fights with Sharkey.
seen some odd comment saying how the 30s-40s were in black in white and at a lower fps that's why they look way less advanced and if they were in color with higher fps they would be more advanced Is that possible it can fix obsolete flaws and add better tech/fluid/timing/defense can adding color and higher fps manipulate footage so they would look as advanced as guys in 70s-90s?
