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For the sake of clarity: Firstly, this is all based on the actual historical invasion of Tsushima by the Mongols. Jin is a Samurai and therefore has the traditional code of honor taught to him. So that would be, facing your opponent and fighting without trickery (like the firecrackers and such) but he is so determined/desperate to defend Japan and furious with his enemies that he takes on the tactics of the "Ghost" (More accurate to say Shinobi) and his master begins to get worried that he is forsaking his values too much. I would expect that the game will be challenging to play without resorting to the "Ghost" tactics as the game progresses. Also, with the stances, it seems they may have based them off of real techniques and very possibly off of Miyamoto Musashis teachings with the "Book of Five Rings"/ Go Rin No Sho. The game looks incredible and it seems they did a LOT of research at Sucker Punch, even when you consider the roles of animals (like the Fox) in Shinto it seems they have honored that all quite a lot in this project, particularly with a fox leading you to an Inari Shinto shrine as they show in the demo. I am very, very excited for this game.
The Hat to add to the historical point. Mongol invasion failed due to a a crazy storm. The Japanese coined the storm “Divine Wind” and it’s actually called “Kamikaze”. This survival of the Mongol invasion inflated Japans ego and rightfully so! This is the Mongols we are talking about. They NEVER fucking lose, right? So, this ego stayed for sooooo long and it’s why we see in WWII Japan standing up to America. We all knew what happened then. Anyway, I hope you the reader learned something.
@@kingofpain11111 Yes, the invasion never went past Tsushima due to a typhoon which forced their ships to retreat from the Sea of Japan and all the Mongols were then executed. However, somehow relating that which occurred in the late 13th Century to the Imperial Japanese Army of the mid 20th Century is absolute ignorance. Quite a lot happened in that 700 years and there is no relation between the way of life of the two periods particularly since the Edo Period was the longest period of peace that country had ever seen and was incredibly prosperous. The comparison of 13th Century Feudal Japanese Shogunate to 20th Century Imperialism is completely absurd and so is the idea of them "standing up to America." The connection between Kamikaze (God-Wind) in reference to divine intervention against the Mongol Horde and the fanatical FORCED pilots of WW2 is an absolute perversion. The Imperial Army perverted everything about The Way in regards to Samurai and the concept of Kamikaze pilots was the greatest offense in regards to such perversion. I think the idea that their "ego was inflated" is also incorrect. It was a warrior culture and it had NEVER been successfully invaded by anyone, ever, in all of history. It is fair to consider as well that if you US has attempted an invasion by sea in Japan that it would have been a great deal more brutal that D-Day invasion of Normandy and very possibly would have failed. I am not sure where you got information from, or your translation, but they are not entirely accurate.
@@kingofpain11111 It'd be pretty cool if the game explains how Jin's legend as the vengeful spirit eventually morphed over the years into the present day belief that it was a storm that took out the Mongols. Winds are even heavily incorporated into the game.
A little bit of clarity about the fighting in the game: It's not realistic, in the sense that it does not come from any kenjutsu style, the inspiration for the fighting seems to be kabuki stage fighting and samurai cinema fights (the last one actually draws inspiration from the first). You can actually see this in the exaggerated movements and the hard poses Jin pulls every time he kills someone as "the samurai", which makes sense, considering sucker punch has said numerous times that this game is a love letter to samurai cinema. Another point we can make for this is the exaggerated way the enemies die, that's straight out of a samurai cinema movie.
And in a historical period that has barely been explored. So many games focus on the Era of Warring States/Sengoku Jidai, but the only time I've ever seen the Mongol Invasion portrayed in a video game was the original Shogun: Total War.
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These were the same people who thought London was a good idea...even people from London like to say how lame their city is, and that's in modern day London.
MAX said it best.. "Look at this Next-Gen game, on Current-Gen." I'm gonna make myself look like YOSHIMITSU, if I can. I know he's a ninja.. but still. I already know MAX is probably gonna go for a STRIDER style.
Personally: *Gets through the exploration part of the presentation* "Pre-ordered." Seriously, I could just LOOK at this game all fucking day without ever even drawing a blade, much less any blood.
When there's still no AC Japan, Sony: Fine, I'll do it myself. In all honesty though, this presentation alone is way better than the entire Xbox event last week. On one hand, I'm still excited for AC Valhalla and hope that Ubisoft will show us what the game has to offer in Ubisoft Forward in July.
I'm just over AC at this point. Good games but not as Assassins Creed games. They've clearly taken the series in a totally different direction which is fine but they should just make a new IP. You're not even an assassin in the new games when the series is called *Assassins* Creed lol.
@Joseph Joestar ジョセフ・ジョースター showing historic figures, yokais, ninjutsu and all. Nice move that they're going for vikings, let the japan theme rest a little for a year or more so
At this point, I just want to see AC take on Asia in a main entry (so not counting Chronicles). Feudal Japan, Ancient China, the British colonisation of South East Asia, World War 2 era Shanghai, anything. I got no doubt the franchise will continue as long as there's still historical era to explore. It's just a matter of when. 🤷♂️
I hope leaving them alive after they run has implications. Maybe if you let them run, reinforcements and stronger enemies appear at the same location? That would be so fucking dope.
@@tombraider200571 Actually, it isn't at all. A year and a half if the time you need to fix what's broken, to playtest the shit out the game to make sure it has the experience you wanted, and minor tweaking. A year and a half before release isn't the time to be reworking your entire combat system, that's just asking for trouble. Because what people don't seem to realise is that the level design affects the combat system which in turn informs level design. You can't rework your combat and not expect it to break absolutely everything you've done level-design wise in an action game like this one. Some genres can get away with reworking combat such as MMOs since none of them use their envrionment as a tool to convey information when in combat. It's all about the ennemy in front of you and the arena is just the framing of the battle. (level design isn't only a matter of traversal btw, the term encapsulates ennemy placement, density, line of sights, pacing, etc.)
@@arenkai "A year and a half if the time you need to fix what's broken, to playtest the shit out the game to make sure it has the experience you wanted, and minor tweaking. A year and a half before release isn't the time to be reworking your entire combat system, that's just asking for trouble." The exception only further validates the rule, so you're certainly not wrong. But I'm pretty sure God of War 2018 threw out almost everything with only 2 years left to go. Again, just goes to show that crunch culture sucks, and even the best of games are sometimes produced in the worst circumstances.
@@turbonerdo6838 God of war was a game that was developed in 3 years. 1 year planning and scripting / story writing / key art and then the actual game development. The last year was bug fixes and tests and the actual publishing process. Maybe it was 4 years but I heared from Cory Barlog on a an interview that he said 3 years and explained each step. So you saying "only 2 years" is actual a fucking big amount of time. You can change a hell of alot in that timeframe. And they didn't threw everything out, one of the key animators for the combat system made the axe throw and the call back. Cory was loving it right from the start. But they weren't sure if they can use it, though they sticked with it and played along and kinda build the combat around it.
Would be cool if you could have it so it only pops up during combat, so you can have the beautiful environment and the cinematic feel at the same time.
The T isn't silent, there just isn't a vowel sound between the T and the S so it becomes almost like one constant in itself, like an S sound but starting with your mouth in the T position.
I have a big soft spot for the assassins creed style of gameplay, and that combined with the breathtaking visuals, setting, and music have sold me 100%
@@silverbullet1819 It definitely looks more like Assassin's Creed 1 than anything. Witcher 3 could be really button mashy especially with the level scaling system that can put you against gigantic health pools and also relied on awkward dodge/evade mechanic. Ghost seem to depend more on technique and precision instead, and a lot of one-hit kills.
This demonstration made me cry a bit with joy when I watched it. It's beautiful, brutal, and really just took my expectations and went SO FAR beyond. I am looking forward to this, more than anything now.
I was heavily invested in this game long before Sekiro came out and even though it was good it wasnt what I was looking for so I never finished it. Tsushima had me onboard from the first teaser trailer.
Same. I'm really interested in these new ancient Japan styled games but Sekiro just looks like too much CBT for my taste, lol. I love the Souls games but I'm trash at parrying, which is basically like 99% of Sekiro's combat system from what I've seen. I much prefer this game's approach of basically just making Japan Assassin's Creed with BOTW style exploration.
Yeah ghost of tsushima has much more of that tenchu vibe than sekiro, just with open world. Still, one day would be nice to see those characters and stuff again.
Sounds like a Capcom title. Six months after release we'll get Ghost of Assassins: Breath of Redemption, the Wild Hunt Dies Twice: Zero Far Dawn Cry Tournament Edition Hyper XL
Okay yeah, I'm having the same reaction as Max. I thought basically nothing of this game when we first saw it and this preview made me go "Ohhhhhhhhhhh, I'm getting Breath of the Wild vibes here."
After seeing him reactions to Final Fantasy and him on Dropped Frames, I found myself a new reaction channel. I still don't see how people find the combat "off", what else type of combat did you want? This beats every other type of combat so far for it's style, hack and slash sponge shaving would just make this feel like shit, and this 1 shot, fast paced parry combat fits so well. Even Witcher 3's combat was bogged down, even though it was already mediocre at best already, by that fact. slashing and hacking multiple times and the enemies barely showing any reaction to each hit unless your higher lvl than them. Just takes out of the bad ass feel of a skilled sword fighter. Only thing that made it better was the mutilation finishers (not sure of the exact word to use instead of mutilation)
meeran haq Well, everyone has their own desires when it comes to combat. It may feel badass, to dispatch foes in a single stroke, but I’m worried that I won’t even see the enemys as threats. Unless they can one-shot me just as easily, I’ll be half asleep as I mow them down like grass. I really hope there’s more to the combat than what I’ve seen so far.
Yea I agree. I’ll take this over the whole “death of a thousand cuts” combat that everyone shoved into their games nowadays. I really started to hate it When AC odyssey had it. Combat was so fucking boring because it was just mash one button till they die, parry occasionally.
My problem with the Ass Creed classic style is that it means you have less tools to express yourself in combat and that you cannot use them outside of combat due to context sensitivity. I don't know about Odyssey which had some sort of leveling system, but I want a decent number of mid combat actions which only seems to be teased with the styles at the moment. We can have that and also a means to defeat or avoid enemies fast, even BOTW or DMC does it. Encounters with enemies made of paper need you to be made of paper to be remembered.
@@thelastgogeta Go watch the the duel at the end E3 2018 gameplay. Obviously not every enemy is one-hit kill but the combat seems to depend on not taking damage but instead reflecting, parrying or dodging blows. It relies on technique and reaction time and distances itself from button masher style combat systems with level scaling like in other open world games like AC Origins, Skyrim or Zelda BOTW. It is the perfect style for this type of game considering the Samurai theme, developers definitely know what they are doing here.
@@sageoftruth I think the game has a block meter, like sekiro or fallen order. Which means even though enemies die in one or two hits you still have to get through their defenses before you can hit them.
I'm holding off all my expenses for PS5 i can wait not to play games when they launches but i absolutely need to invest on next gen now because games will still be $60 on ps5 ..
@@rayshiotile9487 For an mgs game, i totally agree with you . But as general stealth-gameplay goes its too disjointed and looks not interactive enough at all. Still no indicator how good hidden you are , flat stealthing without different approach-possibilities except being on higher or same ground as the guards (but maybe theres is more to it than it shows idk) , multiple takedowns that could trivialise stealth way too much and guards that rather looking at fire-crackers instead stating alert immediatly because it is loud af and unusual in the silent night to light up some firecrackers because ... reasons. The stealth is typical open world fanfare as usual what they showed and it can be very dissapointing for some . Im only for samurai-ing and thats enough.
Tsushima is a story first game and now that we've seen the combat...Is it better than Nioh? Nioh is a gameplay first game so is it fair to compare the 2? I mean that's probably why Sony released 2 samurai games in one year because they are different. It's funny because people said Tsushima would be better than Nioh but we see it has implemented combat stances...which is from Nioh. Nioh 2 the best ARPG of all time and it's on a tier of Bloodborne...the combat is the best objectively. If Tsushima wants to compete with Nioh it needs to be masterful with it's story, side quests included because that's what will carry the game. Nioh is carried by it's combat.
@@frankchapparo7391 I don't think anyone would say the combat is better than nioh that'd be stupid..but it's a somewhat simpler game and open world is better so overall people might like this more tho I personally think nioh is more satisfying but we'll see
@@lyonking2223 Well how this game handles open world is much, much closer to how BotW did it; basically presenting the open world to the player through contextualised cues and environmental design. TW3 mostly relied on map markers and beaten paths when handling the open world.
It’s More fluid and casual as well. I don’t mind this at all. There’s already 2 Samurai Souls type games. Ghosts of Tsushima would be a nice change of pace
@@acebrawler2000 i wouldn't call it casual from everything i've seen and heard...game has a lot of stances, parry,block,deflect,dodge,roll and it's pretty realistic your enemies die with 2-3 hits but you die with 2-3 hits too. So you can't yolo this game like it's old assassins creed where you fought 10 enemies at the same time
I can't wait to get my hands on the collectors edition that I pre-ordered the day that it was available. Sucker Punch has only made games that are at least 8/10 and I have the utmost faith in this game
@@rigby8701 I disagree. It definitely didn't live up to the potential they'd built up with the whole power siphoning idea, but the core gameplay was fun. I enjoyed switching between all the powers and wreaking havoc
@@CaliberStone The story and characters were very bland, along with the world. The only saving grace was that the combat and traversal was fun for a while but grew old very quickly.
@@rigby8701 I mean, it was mostly based on a real city, so...I guess Seattle is just bland? I liked traveling around and seeing the landmarks, so again I'll have to disagree. The characters were definitely a little cookie cutter, though.
I've been waiting for this game for close to 4 years and I'm proud to have pre-ordered the collector's edition and now waiting for that Day 1 samurai experience
I'm so excited because I didn't know when this game was coming out, and now it's coming out in July! Maybe I had heard and forgot if this wasn't the release date reveal. I've been excited for two years!
The setting being limited to an island could allow them to really add a lot of detail. I remember when this game got shown at E3 2018 alongside Sekiro. I was hyped just because they mentioned a different "health" system tied to posture. I think what really got me into following the game is an anime called "Angolmois: Record of Mongol Invasion." It's pretty much the Mongol Invasion of Tsushima though definitely more grandiose and with more spectacle.
That photo mode where you can sort of make gifs will be so cool. I can see people making some really neat things out of that. Especially during combat scenes
I never thought of this game at all, I thought it would be another souls like game, but now, open world Feudal Japan setting, a choice of being a Ninja or Samurai, oh yeah I'm sold.
It certainly looks interesting, but I'm a little concerned about how "stiff" and "quick-timey" some of it looked. I hope it's just an old build effect or the way they were playing it.
I've traveled throughout TSUSHIMA a few times. It's an incredible place with some unique wildlife and monuments to events that happen within this game.
One thing that I want to point out that some people miss is that the Japanese voice actor of the main character Jin is Kazuya Nakai who has done zoro from one piece, mugen from samurai chaploo, etc.
I know a lot of people are comparing this to Assassins Creed, but I get more Witcher vibes tbh, especially with the animal guides basically being your Witcher senses and the shrines that give you buffs. Also, the stance switching in Samurai mode was really unexpected, definitely more excited about combat now
I need more on that combat man, I can't get a good feel for how the mechanics interact from these trailers and videos. Gotta dive DEEP in to exactly what you can do and what your opponents can do.
Thought the "sword play" from Sekiro was one of the best skill based combat systems I've ever seen in an action-RPG style game. Its design was genuis in the way that it actually allowed the developer to truly compose your bossfight experiences. The final boss is indicative of that. Edit: Perhaps try to make the game a bit more difficult. Those NG debuffs stacked on to the max difficulty scaling require mastery of certain enemies and reaction. Cant wait to see how they innovate the combat farther in Elden Ring.
Fun Fact! The reason you’re called: The Ghost. Setting of the game is 12th century. Shinobi didn’t originate until 15th century. It’s those little attention to details that prove the developers respected their craft. However cleverly it’s suspected that antecedents may have existed as early as the 12th century :)
Well you say that, but there are a LOT of historical inaccuracies that were put in for cinematic flavor and general "samurai-ness". For example, during the 12th century, he wouldn't even have had a true katana. He would have had a dachi which is much longer. The dachi would have been stowed in his belt blade-down rather than blade-up, and it would have been too long to perform iaido (attacking from the sheathed position) which wasn't even invented until the 15th century. Whenever Jin flicks his sword to remove the blood, it is a ritualistic movement called chiburi that was invented during the Edo period, which takes place centuries after the setting of the game. All of the combat styles/stances/movements are based off of Edo period styles/stances/movements. Even little details like the traditional sitting on the knees thing (seiza) was invented in the Edo period. The entire plot of the game, the honorable Samurai way vs dishonorable "ghost" way, is an Edo period interpretation of Bushido. Especially during a period of war, no samurai would have cared how they killed their enemy. In fact, the most famous historical "Ninja" (Hattori Hanzo) was a samurai.
For some reason I got a Metel Gear Sold 5 vibe from the gameplay, especially the quick kunai throw when spotted, kinda like Snake can do a slow motion headshot when he's spotted.
I don't know how I feel about getting pestered by animals and winds and whatnot about finding quests and items, as opposed to just exploring by yourself.
Max I doubt you'll see this comment but you've gotten me through some really tough times so far this year dude and I just wanted to say thank you and hopefully one day in the future I'll be able to tell you face to face. Appreciate all the entertainment and you being you
I wouldnt really say metal gear5. Metal gear 5 was basically the borderlands of stealth games giving u every way possible of stealth or combat, this is more batman Arkham stealth imo
This game is so unique i dont remember tha last time i played a realistic samurai/ninja game and one that is not to arcade and whit enemies beeing "bulletsponges".
Yeah, the ‘T’ is definitely not silent in Tsushima. It’s supposed to be ‘Tsoo-she-mah’ (I’m no professional when it comes to writing out pronunciations, so give me a break). Also, in Japanese, the first syllable is the stressed syllable more often than not. So, we tend to say ‘He-roh-SHEE-mah,’ but the stress definitely shouldn’t be on the third syllable in Hiroshima. Anyway, it’s not really all that important since the Japanese butcher English pronunciation with katakana, but if anyone actually cares about how it’s pronounced in Japanese, there ya go.
The "Samurai. Jin" and "Ghost. Jin" segments reminded me of Metal Gear Solid 5. You can approach the enemies stealthily. Or you can go in with a bang. Or maybe both. It's really cool. And the combat system? It does feel a lot of like Ni-oh. And that's good. So, it's essentially Japanese Red Dead Redemption 2 + MGS 5 + Ni-oh + Sekiro. Loving what I saw so far.
Dank Vader16 dev pronouncing it the american way like how you guys pronounce tsunami as “soonami”. the correct way of pronouncing is explained well by the mr up there
