Maxxis Minion Review | DHRII vs. DHF | The Loam Wolf 

The double ass setup gets my vote for maximum traction

Agreed would love to see the Assguy review, but in general this has been my experience as well. I tried a DHF this time around and I don’t love it as much as I did the DHR2 on the front. Confirm I mostly ride loose over hard.

@@houseofdyer Dhf is for hard surfaces, hard packed dirt, roots, rocks slabs. Loose conditions try the high roller over even the shorty if it’s really loose.

Haha. Right on well thanks for the comment and now you know you can run two matching tires AND get 15% off when you buy them! win win.

I literally just put this exact combo on my 29er

just done that too after DHF front, DHR2 rear... loving the DHR2 up front so far. nice to have that small vague angle gone. Still early days...

What I am aiming for too. Could even use SS in the back if that's grippy enough for people.

I have the dissector at the back already and I’m going for the dhr II at the front … I can’t wait for it .. in your opinion how this combo works for rocks, gnarly trails ??

@@josehurtado7822 I still think its a fantastic combo, its a light-ish/somewhat fast setup, braking is great on both rock, dirt and loose over hard, rooty trails, overall very predictable imho, run it in bike parks and forrest trails with fairly low psi and tubeless - both the DHR II and the Dissector clears mud reasonably well although Ive seen better (but Im not a fan of riding when wet anyways) - I just love this setup... I am experimenting though with the Aggressor rear and Dissector front as a summer setup, seems even lighter/faster but robust, haven't had much time with this combo yet though...

Glad you liked it!

I'm running that setup also right now for winter in the PNW and liking it. I have the grip in the front and Terra rear. What compounds are yours?

Wow thank you very much! Appreciate it.

You got it thank you for watching!

Did you end up running a DHRII on the rear and Aggressor rear? I'm thinking about running that

@@RC-fp1tl yes I moved my DHRII 2.4 up front and put on Aggressor 2.3 on the rear. A clear felt difference in the climbs.as the lighter weight and closer knobs of the Aggressor improved rolling quite a bit. Not much issue going downhill as the DHRII remain a solid grippy front tyre while expect a more playful rear which is fine with me. No regrets for me based on the hills I bike at. Hope this helps.

We agree! We just switched to a DHF on our Canyon Sender after wearing out the DHR II and noticed a big difference.

Awesome thanks for letting us know. Hope you’re happy with the decision

Awesome thanks glad it was helpful.

Definitely I Run 2.5 Assegai MG F / R 23 psi . The Only Tire I Run On my Enduro and DH Bike 😎 Live in Vancouver

Those aren't compounds. Maxx grip and Maxx Terra are compounds.

Thanks for sharing Pablo. Certainly each tire has applications and rider preferences!

Glad to hear it!

It’s not a problem, it’s designed like that.

my setup

Thanks for sharing!

Thanks very much

Right on thank you for watching and sharing.

Try wider rims

@@SourCrouter already a 2.6

@@REGNARTS00 rims

Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for sharing Drapp! Tire preference is very individual and greatly influenced by terrain and riding style. So thanks for the input.

What u mean .. can u explain more about it?

@@korbbarber2524 Wider rims push side knobbs down flattening tire profile. More tread in contact with the ground. Adds more traction and rolling resistance

amazing but skinny ...

How is it? I was wondering if anyone runs DHF on the rear. Is it faster rolling than DHR II in the rear?

They want us to die with this DHF !!! It makes me so unsure on rocks, roots, wet grounds, dry ok.

Lol, yeah right? I was on a steep trail and caught a wet root...holy fuck!!! Thing is, It was totally unexpected and I even stayed there for 30 secs catching my breath and trying to figure what just happened

Totally agree, I feel soooo much safer with a dhr2 in front than a dhf - Imho the difference in traction and braking force is night and day between the dhr2 and dhf … If I want fast but scary in wet, I use dissector in front now, I feel its much like the dhf but noticable lighter…

Thanks and sorry for the confusion. We’d always want the newest tire up front. So take the front and move it back and put the freshie up front.

Thanks :)

Haha. Well, if you think about a car that understeers, you're turning the wheel but the front is sort of pushing or not responding sharply and turning. In a strange way that's a similar concept. Some tires provide traction and instant feel/engagement throughout their entire profile. The "float channel" on the DHF is a large void between knobs so you could have a bit of uncertainty on whether your tires gripping or sliding or not. If you've ever ridden on sand and the bike sort of squirms and moves but you still maintain your line, just with some slight deviations from straight, that's the vagueness we're referring too. Not a direct line of feedback on traction and cornering input. Hope that helps??

@@TheLoamWolf Hi, thanks for the info, yes that helps. I just rode over some sand the other day so that illustration helps a lot. Thanks again!

2.3 should be ok for that rim width, just be careful on the first rides in case the profile is too rounded

It will work fine

Thanks glad it was helpful.

Have you tried the SE5 or SE6 on the front yet? Curious how these compare to DHR2.

@@frankschock9981 I've tried the SE5 on front and rear. Way better than the DHR2 at both positions. I like the SE5 better than the SE4, too. For a long while, my LBS was out of the SE tires, so I bought a Vittoria Mazza. It started out on the rear, and at that time the DHR2 had been pressed back into service in front. The Mazza was good in the back, but I like it better in front. When the LBS finally got some suitable tire in stock, I chucked the DHR2 from the rear and replaced in with the SE6. The SE6 is my all-time favorite rear tire. I haven't had it up front yet. I'll give credit to the DHR2 for its durability, I couldn't wear it out. Of course, I couldn't tolerate its performance drag, either, so it had been kept as a spare, mostly. I finally just didn't even want it around as an emergency backup and simply threw it away. That made my life better. So now I have my favorite tire combo: Mazza in front, SE6 in back. But that's just me, on my bike, on the mountain upon which I live. Change terrain and/or bike, I might have a different opinion. Or I might find a tire that I like better among the many that I've never tried.

@@gatoryak7332 Wow that's impressive that the SE6 isn't too sluggish on the rear.

@@frankschock9981 It may be too sluggish for your riding. But compared to Minion DHR II, it feels significantly speedier. Even my girlfriend, who is not a MTBer, mentioned how slow the rear wheel (DHR II) of my bike felt to her, compared to the front wheel, when she rode my bike on some streets and the "Family Trail" near my house. Prior to that, I had never discussed MTB tires with her. I'm boring enough without geeking out on bike tires. The SE6 has better traction, by far, too.

@@gatoryak7332 Yeah for my local trails I'm thinking XR4 or SE4 2.4 rear and XR5, SE5 or SE6 front.

Dhr2

I’ve used a DHR 2.4 on the rear in the UK and had no issues all winter. It sheds mud better than an assegai too which can get clogged fairly quickly with stickier mud so I’ve found.

Very glad to hear you have experienced what we were talking about! As we said, don't give up on the Minion, either try to really manhandle the bike over onto the side knobs, or sell it while it's still new and get a DHR II and run it up front. Plus with 15% off code above, that's an even easier justification. haha.

That's a question we can't answer because it will only open up a can of worms! haha. Real world rolling resistance tests are so finicky and can change based on PSI, trail conditions etc. And what Maxxis shows in the lab on their rolling machines may not be totally correct with what happens on dirt, rocks and roots either... And they'll even admit to that. Typically though, tighter spaced knobs roll faster than those of larger spacing. Think about a truck with mud terrains vs all terrains.

DHF for sure

"F" stands for "Fast" ha!

What type of soil/dirt are you riding on?

Yeah, great combo for conditions (dry!) in the Wasatch mountains! The DHR up front has better braking and the DHF in the back rolls better.

What tires would you recommend

Gracias amigo! es un buen combinacion, seguro!

Porque no te gusta DHF?

@@zacariaskramer8844 la DHR me parece mas progresiva en curvas, no tiene puntos muertos, tambien cuando apuras la frenada en terreno con mucho desnivel, me gusta mas como retiene la frenada

Hola yo instale dhr2 en las 2 ruedas que piensa de eso ? Son 29x2.6 on trek top fuel , me gustaria tu opinion gracias

@@miltonnunez8253 pienso que dhr en ambas ruedas convierten tu bici en un tractor, mucha tracción y frenada. Yo quizas , y mas teniendo ambas en 2.6, pondria algo mas rodador en la trasera, tipo Dissector, Rekon o Agressor.

i use dhf front and rear on my scott genius .no problem

What bike?

How so?

I ride in SE Michigan, mostly hard pack w loose dust on crust and sometimes, sand, I didn’t like the DHF 2 in the front. It made my front end feel darty and wander’y. I rode it for about 2 months, before slapping on a DHF and what a difference. The DHF brought back the precise feeling at the front I was missing w the DHR. And, if you commit to cornering, there’s few tires with better edge hold. DHF: precision & stability. DHR: playful and darty (a bit too much for my tastes!)

Mazza is just a poor dhf

Mazza is just a bad grip than dhf brother

@@CristicaPorumb Nah, it's *slightly* less grippy over wet roots, but much more stable on anything more supportive.

Guess the podium is full.

Had Ardents on last trail bike and dhr2 front/aggressor rear on my new trail bike. I don't feel there is much of a penalty for the increased grip. They roll pretty well. Gained 20 lbs since covid and my new bike is 3lbs heavier as well and my 30 minute green trail loop times were identical this year. I felt Ardents had that vague transition spot as well and it was hard to push the pace on moderate downhill sections at all. Unless you really want quick times, something like my combo or dissector front/rekon back would probably be a good middle ground for traction/speed.

What kind of trails are you riding mate?