@@jaydonthomas427I feel the writing particularly for the club and other members got better after Sutter left. To much cartel stuff that all the other members of the club didn't get shit I feel for character development until season 3. I'd have to go back and watch the earlier seasons though because I have not watched since they came out.
@@guappoppi5k998 Maybe. If he killed Gaby, he'll kill anyone. And now that his brother is shown to be a traitor, there's no stopping him (but also, no one left to fight for really...)
@@el_killorcure true. In all fairness this Angel should've never burned down the warehouse that was their ticket out. Imo it's what got creeper green lit and what made the Mayans lose the prisons
@@guappoppi5k998 nah you right. angel was so stupid since half way through S4. he sounds by far the dumbest character "ThEy ThReAtEnEd My FaMiLy" you joined a MC and didnt expect that? like bruh. cant blame the writer though, no where else to go with that lame character.
That took courage, heart and bravery on EZ’s behalf he had to establish dominance and made his point to the club and people present noble and commendable.
@@andrewdemanche5818 truth i was saying that on other fools comments, bro the sons are more likely to take isaac out than EZ(although he would and could) but isaac is just wrong. the son fans love to argue but remember when jax gave tig some more brain damage than he already had over trying to kill women... isaac has no issue with it
My theory is Alvarez will come back and deal with Santo Padre charter by killing alot of them. Then samcro will take out Isaac and his charter. They both have been a cancer to the whole mc on both sides. Angel maybe the only one to walk away alive from Santo Padre but that's just my theory
It’s a crazy dichotomy of Mayans MC and SOA. Jax started off a hard ass and as the show progressed he wanted out of the life. EZ has gone opposite. Especially when he killed Gaby last season or season 3.
He killed her In season 4 but yes that moment solidified him as being worse than angel and possibly even his father. Ez is a guy I'm kinda rooting for to get killed now. He has put the gang in a big pile of shit. I don't see Santo Padre charter making it out alive. Them and San Bernardino have been a cancer to the whole mc. I see both sides cleaning house at the end of it all to put it to bed
Guys, repeat after me: "We are prepared to accept your full surrender. We will continue to wear the California patch. The Sons will shut down their San Bernardino chapters immediately."
I love how Packer turns around after and looks at his vp kinda sad after figuring out Coco is dead...but he's just pissed he didn't get to kill him himself....Packer is an awesome character..
The contrast between relentless deliberation and irational impulse is depicted well. EZ voted for war, without sufficient knowledge of strategy and tactics. EZ welcomes the gift from Nestor, Clausewitz "On War," a book delineating the elements of Western War of Position. EZ as a commander makes plans, investigate, and is willing to make sacrifices. That's what makes EZ special. There's almost a disregard for his own life, you know? He's willing to take the hits, he's willing to sacrifice his life and himself, because he's not at peace. He just wants to make sure that the Mayans are on top and that they survive and that his brother is okay.
I think Isaac is gonna provoke EZ more. He has a dark knight joker agent of chaos feel about him. Just my opinion. He’s all over the place but is always observant.
I think they work perfectly as as opponents. They're both crazy and reckless in their own way and make plenty of bad decisions, but are still very calculating and cunning, in spite of all that. Neither of them are good, but EZ is more the stone-faced, "eye of the tiger" hungry leader to contrast Isaac's more entertaining, "I don't truly care who dies or who wins. All I want is to be in control of all this chaos, and I want everybody to have fun, the way I expect them to." In a way, similar to Batman and Joker, but for bikers.
I don’t think he does. I think EZ stepping up proves that he is the rat. Listen to what he says at the end “It is you” if anything EZ is afraid. Look at what he did to creeper
@@erikpersson2047 when the sons captured them last season and Isaac burnt them all except Otero, that kinda shifted all the attention to the war. he has his respect now. That's all laid to rest. Especially after seeing EZ take down Travis 1 on 1 to the death.
the way hank looks at gilly at 1:00. i could see where this is going, its starting to look like the reason samdino has been on a warpath is because gilly went on a solo rescue mission behind the clubs back to go get coco and is the reason why he took half their ammo which they really needed when yuma and the other charters attacked. so its really starting to look like gilly is the reason all this is happening when in reality it was taza hiding montez body that really set it all in motion. if thats the route they’re taking its not gilly in the casket, it looks like he’s gonna get kicked from the club for taza’s actions
if i remember that right when they came back when SP was attacked one of the attackers intercepted their car and they had to seek cover and then coco tried to get the weapon van but it was burnt down.. and gilly had only a AR when he rescued coco so where is gillys fault? i dont remember he took half lf SP arsenal
the reason it started in the first place is because in season 3 one of the SP bar girls found Montezs patch in a barrel took it to her sister who is dating a SAMDINO member and there you go
@Deghini ive been known and said that gilly will probably die trying to save letty, this writer cant go any other way. good to know i wasnt the only one.
Dude i was on the edge of my seat this whole scene. This guy gives me straight up Negan vibes which is ironic because they both do the whole eni meni minie moe thing haha. He is an amazing actor and is the besr villain I've seen in this whole series since August marks and pope
Issac seems to grow on me , very likeable in a very strange way 🫤 to add the actor plays the character so well. ..very intriguing I wonder what his childhood was like to grow up in such a twisted way ...🤔
Jax, Clay, even Happy would mopped EZ to the ground. Idk what made him think that Issac would even consider his terms. But not being able to kill Coco and the attack on his brother Packer. He’s a threat to EZ’s family. If he even cares at all
I feel EZ looks dumb isaac had the upper hand here, he didn’t even care he lost a guy and walked out as if nothing the way he kept repeating himself and thinking samcro will just back down like as if nothing soa is ambitious
No, Isaac looked emotional. Him asking about Coco showed why he was really there. And with Coco already dead, he's lost all purpose. He said it himself, "without Coco this all seems futile". EZ was there for the club, Isaac was just there for his own selfish need for revenge.
I think if anything EZ won this confrontation. He refused to engage or even acknowledge Issac's games. He made Issac look weak by killing an much bigger stronger enemy in single combat right after Issac backed down. And now EZ united the Mayans.
Issac telling EZ “it is you.” after EZ beat that son tells me all I needed to know. Issac knows there’s a rat in the club and I think he knows it’s EZ. I think people are forgetting the girl that is the bartender that’s hanging around the Mayans clubhouse is the sister of the VP of San Bernardino’s wife.. People aren’t understanding the point of this.. Issac is a smart guy and the sons always prosper in war. That was all purely a test to see how desperate EZ is right now. EZ showed he’s more vulnerable than ever.
How would Isaac have any inkling there’s a rat of any kind?? It’s got nothing to do with SOA His earlier existential question of who is he crashing towards was answered by the fight EZ had. That’s why he said “It’s you.” He saying “Im crashing towards you.”
@@liamcephus9687 Because the vice president of San Bernadino has a mole inside the Mayans clubhouse. The girl who is one of the bartenders is the sister of the wife of the Vice President. He told her she had to give him something or else Isaac was going to flip out a couple episodes ago. That same girl was in the clubhouse when they mentioned that there was possibly a rat and she was there when the brick of fentanyl was shown to EZ. Isaac is steps ahead of EZ.
Your on the money and not only is EZ desperation showing Isaac is fighting EZ back using the same measures he comes across maniacal but he clearly has a understanding for the art of war, deception and he’s forcing EZ’s hand
I can see y'all havent been thru any thing EZ being desperate is not a good thing for issic nothing more dangerous then a man that has nothing to lose issic can play crazy all he wants but it's the punch u don't see coming that always gets u and him kill that son was just the start it's gone get dark for the SOA Jax ain't here to save y'all ass now ijs
@MrSFblack but couldn't pull the trigger if you remember the scene in the meat locker. And Isaac is a straight maniac who has an army behind him. We will see though. I actually hope you're right Felipe is a OG for sure
Why are the Bastard's backing up The Mayans... they were a brother club of the Son's...Tio was the first black Son in the history of the club... figured that would've kept them on good terms..
Jax, Clay, even Happy would mopped EZ to the ground. Idk what made him think that Issac would even consider his terms. But not being able to kill Coco and the attack on his brother Packer. He’s a threat to EZ’s family. If he even cares at all.
No they wouldn’t, unlike your SOA idols EZ has routines and habits to keep him sharp mentally and physically only one I can see give him a good fight would be Jax because of pride for the club.
@@22jcmatias All we have seen from EZ that he has the tools to survive, but the problem that he has is that he is not Alvarez & he is not on the level of the SOA powerhouses ( Clay, Jax, Happy, Álvarez, even Tig). He doesn’t have the reputation like them yet. That’s why those Iron War clowns dissed him, Alvarez doesn’t respect him to help him with the war, a bunch of Mayans are withdrawing their support for the war and Creeper now aware of him being the rat. He is definitely unhinged because he’s not just going to war with the signs. He’s now starting a war with the cartel he’s talking about taking the club to new heights, and he thinks that making the Sons surrender and shut down SAMDINO is going to do anything. Even his own brother whom he NEEDS has been doubting him.
Ez is shame for Mayans. I wonder what will club do about " RAT PRESIDENT " such a shame.... And Mayans about to lose another war with Sons... And since cartel know about the raid their cookhouse. Soon there will be no santo padre chapter
Either too much weed or utter mental retardation can explain that nonsensical comment ! It would be «I’m shocked that some watched Mayans » or « I’m not shocked that no one watched them ». By the way a lot if people have watched Mayans MC and the series has garnered overall good reviews. You seem to be the only one not to get that.
@keno2285 I'm not usually one to complain, but to me it was. Ez repeated the same thing over and over again. The only interesting thing was bringing up coco. This was one of the main teasers and it lasted 5 min and ended up with nothing happening.