Maybe you Should NOT buy this Dirt Bike | KTM HardEnduro 

If you're spending north of 8k for any bike the extra 1600 is not really a big deal . This sport is not cheap anyway. Let's be honest the bike does really does look hot as F hey !

My key takeaway from your commentary was that "it's not worth the extra money for the dirt bike enthusiast that I am". I had a 2023 XC-W and now have this bike. Always wanted to have the bling parts but I make too much per hour to spend my time swapping out all those parts. Here, it's done for me, looks awesome and I don't feel I have to mess with it until I wear out or break something. It's totally worth it for me but that's based a lot on that I wanted a bike that looks like this out of the box stock but I get to spend my time with family, riding or working vs building. I do understand the handguards aren't great but mine will be on until they're trashed and then something better will go on. In the pacific NW woods trails I also mostly run the softer map and in our central high deserts I run the more aggressive green. Makes a difference for me and my ability and adds for later tunability. I have heard rumors but can't confirm, you'd probably know as well as anyone, the suspension on this bike is tuned differently than the stock bike from back to back ride comparisons. Seems a bit far fetched. Love mine with absolutely no regrets. It gets a lot of positive attention. BTW, I went with the black seat instead and it looks sick. Love the grip and feel in the rain, mud and pulling Hardenduro moves.

Much rather set my bike up myself with the parts I like than buy it “hard enduro ready”

The wheel set is also upgraded correct? D.I.D. versus std. But in the end I agree, buy the base bike and upgrade as you prefer.

I always enjoy watching the bike give aways you have. I really appreciate you letting people get into the drawing going through you to rocky mountain. Great job!

$1600 will barley buy a new wheel set. I think while a lot is cosmetic, the clamps, wheels, seat, alone well exceed the price difference and for 2024 the Hard Enduro looks fantastic

My 2024 XC-W came with billet triples like the XC's have. According to my dealer, apparently KTM ran out of the cast triples and started fitting some of the XC-W's with the billet triples. It's no xtra cost. My COO has it branded as "XC-W CNC".

Those orange spoke nuts just screaming out “ I’m winning! I’m winning! “ that does it for me! Must make the bike at least twice as fast as the standard version! Cheers Kyle!

I would buy it based on looks alone. The thing is absolutely beautiful.

Bring back the kick start! I can take care of everything else.

I ride the Beta RR390 has full map and rain map.. I live in Belgium and winter is gnarly.. so the rain map comes in handy .. 😉these days water everywhere

Ya might wanna do your homework on those triple clamps. The stem is reservable to change rake angles

Hi Kyke, massive fan. I do have a few comments to make, the grippy seat is in my opinion worth it, the reason I say that is because the bike is made for hard enduro which is alot of crawling and what happens is when you are on a steep hill doing switch backs or whatever you tend to find yourself slipping off the back even when you are holding on for dear life and gripping with legs. Anything this is the mapping switch is very helpful and ktm would put it on there for no reason, it's useful in very low traction conditions and you want the slowest possible power delivery due to poor traction and to prevent tyre slippage.

Excellent objective view Kyle that is what I like about your videos.

Great video Kyle, this is really is how the riders / enthusiasts are, and that is we all have an opinion, of what works for us, and respectably you voiced your opinion, and you are and were honest about it, that to me is very cool. I know myself included, we all consider the financial end of it. I know for me being a rider and Fan of TM Racing bikes, I would buy a new TM over any brand out there, just look at the stock options on a TM, compared to stock options and factory options on many of the bikes, years ago people would complain and say TM's are so expensive, well I can tell you, when I worked for the TM Importer, back in 05-06, we never had a TM Enduro 300 even with the exchange rate of the Euro, and that was crazy! Still never came close to the cost of KTM Hard Enduro...The only downside to the TM here in the USA, is the resale value. To be honest with you, dirt bikes have come a long ways for sure, but it just seems they keep getting more and more expensive, Fuel Injected, Electric start ECT now a days a new bike OTD tax title license dealer fees ect is over 10K to 12K and really I know for myself, I look at the latest models of all bikes, and I ask what is really changing, so much, that it justifies buying a new dirt bike, for some its a hard pill to swallow, for others it is not....I would like to take this time wish everyone luck in Jan 15th' drawing for the KTM bikes Kyle is giving away, and Welcome to the New Year.

I want to win it, I ordered off Rocky Mountain atv mc last night, fingers crossed for the win 😎

Good review Happy new year Kyle 🤘

Bro as a Beta rider, this bike is beautiful. Its totally worth it to buy it.

Most guys just go trailriding, an 11,000 or 13,000 bike isnt going to improve the experience that much. Its neat when its new, its only new for a very short while. If money doesnt matter then yeah, what ever, buy 10 of them. Guys bought the TPU KTM's and now, KTM moved on and those werent the best idea. But were damned expensive. Spending time and money to learn to ride better? Or act like a pro and get in way better shape? No trail rider I know does that, they just flail around on expensive bikes.

The map switch is absolutely necessary on the east coast with muddy rooted hill climbs

agreed... Happy New Year Kyle

It's like going to vw and buying a golf, you see the standard car and you're happy but out the corner of your eye you see a golf R or gti. You know you probably won't drive it any faster but it looks cool and you want it. Same thing here. You're buying the name and the kudos of it all.

My major pet peeve with all these bikes is the elimination of a backup kick starter. If you keep that bike for several seasons with several hours ride time then you will experience estart failure.

just bought a gasgas ec 300 love it

The front grab strap should be installed under the lower triple clamp

It only reflects your style of riding and terrain. The Map select is a bargain and if your riding in heavy muddy terrain you will love it

Hmm no info about there newer SX’es? Question would a CUO like device make your thinking of the map switch different if you could set the plush map to something harder?

Prolly plenty of dudes who would buy that bike and love it, as is. Sure looks the part! That remaining $1300 could do a lot of more objectively "useful" things, though, I think.

I love the look of this bike, but I wouldn't pay the extra either.

As someone that rides hard enduro regularly, you don’t keep your bike looking good for long. We abuse them. We fall, we drop, so bling n looks are last for me. Protection parts are nice though.

Yeah, not sure why anyone would by the Hard Enduro or the KTM Factory Editions. It’s not only $1600 off the start but they normally don’t mark them down toward the end of the year so they are actually many thousands more expensive.

Do you run stock tires and wheels on your truck? I think I remember seeing them on your F150.

I bought the 25 HE because of the looks and bling. 😮

Xc or xcf for the win in my opinion you can put light kits on them if needed.

@ 82 years old I have a 2023 Erzbergrodeo, out of the box it's wow! bling0 but that didn't last long because I never wash my KTM I ride it as much as possible, @ 82 I might not wake up tomorrow but I make sure I do because every time I ride that bad boy feel like I just added another day to my mortal shelf life, shoots I'm down to 28 years old now gotta love them motorcycles~~~~~Braaap! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LkeXd3jS5NQ.html ~Clean Bling or Dirty Zing~ Wash if you must, but wouldn't it be better, To ride again in the rain and roost mud Pitching it sideways in the silt berm's Roost out, exposing Earths worm's. Detail if you must, but there's not much time, With land closed and wilderness protection Less trail riding, no desert to speed upon Fewer BBQing bullshit bench race time. Bling if you must, but all off road bikes are dirt, With mud packed tires and crooked fenders Gouge hand guards and scratched decals Times of riding may not come again pal's. Polish aluminum if you must, but bare in mind, Dust happens when Bling factor goes bitchen And where you ride, and hot riding you must Dude, you yourself will roost up more dust. Bling and dirt will eventually entropy into a Blurt, A Blurt, is a Motorcycle re$toring Black Hole Black Hole benchracing BBQ's are popular The older you are, the more you Blurted. ~Gasser Classic~

How is the oil cap additional protection? Also, the super sprocket is a good upgrade...the rear sprocket will last significantly longer then an aluminum one.

I wouldn't pay the extra either, but I would love to win it! Even though I just bought a new 450 XCW I would love to have the 2 stroke too. With 2 bikes my son could join me on rides.

Hey Kyle, I've been doing some extensive research on the 300 XC-W, I have never owned a 2 stroke, but I do have some seat time on a 98' CR 250. My last bike was a 2015 yz250fx and i liked that bike a lot. I liked the low end power and the 4 stroke engine. I only ride single track and I am comparing the 2024 350 XW-F and the 300 XC-W. Do you have any insight between the two or recommendations to point me in the right direction, I haven't rode either. I hope this comment reaches you, I am looking forward to your advice. Kind regards, Brad

The 2024 bikes are a work of art.

despite of all the blings. why there is no pipe guard?

Kyle always keeping it real.

2023 gas gas ec 250, comes with a heavy flywheel weight, , doesn't stall,, tpi injection,, doesn't stall,, studder or fart, electric start, kick start capable, the last year. Head light, tail light, wide ratio transmission. My add on are, high compression head, cone pipe 53 tooth rear sprocket, kick start, motes wire cage pipe guard, shinko rear tire, mousse front and rear, Del saggio fork kit, comes 50 HP. RUNS PERFECT, 80 HARD ENDURO BEGINNER HOURS, IN SOUTHERN OREGON, TBI BIKES DO NOT COMPARE, they simply run out of gas, and have less stock HP. The 2023ec 250 was 6,700 brand new.

It is worth the cost if the buyer enjoys owning a more rare and exclusive Moto. Residual price will also be higher. The cost of the wheels, guards , sprocket etc plus included cost to install is also a factor. So for the discerning buyer who has no issue with the final cost it’s well worth it.

Gripper Seat and foot pegs are things I have to have. I am more MX than enduro though.

you are spot on ;; the map switch is a gimmick ,, thats what a twist grip is for ;;; use it carefully in tricky situations , not press a stupid button ;;;

You should try bump starting the tbi ktm’s

I wonder if its because if they put proper protective stuff on it, the factory riders need to use it ? And they cant change it

I'd buy it! But I agree on the handguards, I'd switch to the heavy duty flag style. Also a seat concepts seat, rekluse, maybe tubliss. Wow that's a lot. Glad my bike is dialed and I don't need one now.

what is the best skid plate you can get?

Curious, is this the same setup as a 6 Days?

When is contest names pulled for sweepstakes?

Does it come with a heavy flywheel weight, a wide ratio transmission, these items make an enduro bike, just buy a gas,gas ec model

Why is the brake rotor solid? It freezes constantly on my friends exc300, no brakes after a few powder snow runs. Meanwhile my old 1991 DT125R keeps its rear brake working 😂

U could wear a Bengals foot ball helmet and jersey and ride that and look cool

The seat is more than just a cover, the wheels are DID dirt stars. The billet triple clamps are rubber mounted bars where the standards are solid. I just wonder where you ride on public land with out a S/A.

I think it’s a beauty.

Those hard enduro bikes look so much better than the dorky purple and white bikes and you don’t have to put 10 hrs in labor, just put tubliss in it and you’re ready to race.

The ONE thing that would've been super nice to have is some better footpegs, the stock KTM ones are mid...shoulda learned from the Beta race editions. They actually have tasteful upgrades that dont shatter your bank account.

What must do to put lights in xcf and be as xcf w

KTM should release a badass edition with all the FLO Motorsports parts. Pegs, Levers, Radiator Guards, Brake lever and label it the Hard Enduro Edition or something.

Do you think the tripple clamp is mabey more durable/stronger than a normal cast one and thats the reason they put it on

The stock bikes are amazing as is and I just put my factory plastics with graphics in a bag until I sell the bike anyways lol.

I think it’s more targeted to the fan boys that’s the market i personally think it for and it’s going to be more to the older guys getting back into riding and have more money than sense if they sell them it’s great marketing sense by Ktm and potential to be worth more resale as limited models are

Multiple times you say the add ons look super cool, that alone is reason to pay the extra. The wheels alone are worth the spend as it’s a practical upgrade. You go the lower cost option and you still end up upgrading graphics and parts, it’s what riders do and end up paying more. Map switch makes a big difference, soft map is awesome on crawl and hill climbs, the hard map is awesome on open trails where speed kicks in and test their is a power band. A nociable difference between the maps, kind of like going from TPI to old Carb engine response and it’s instant at a push of the button. You can move your controls in, I have no issue doing it on my bike, unless you running your clutch and brake at 45degrees, it’s no issue at all. The seat is awesome, best I’ve had, and works real well in wet, very grippy vs stock. You did not mention the hard endure has solid rear disc brake and floating front. The rims are also specked for higher impact, stronger and lighter. The frame is orange vs black on the std. 1600.00 is not much at all. 👌

Your front pull strap is fitted wrong and might snap your headlight shroud

Stronger wheels as well . My opinion is you get a whole lot for $1600 , the bling ads value wether it is to you is opinion. There are plenty of guys that drag their bikes through the parts catalog and spend way more than $1600

Hmm I own 2023 SX 250 TBi and runnning on soft map only :)

If you got the extra cash everyone would get it. Want to save some money? Skip the special edition. Good video, thanks! 🏍️💨

ok you've convinced me that for 1600 more, i'll be getting this one. way cooler besides the handguards, cmon.

I’d rather win the 300XC with pre mix and faster motor. The Hard Enduro does look better tho 😎

All that bling, but no pipe guard? I would expect a carbon pipe guard for that price.

For 1600 bucks, they can put a kick start back on it 🤣🤣

seems like popping for the Gas Gas and add your own stuff

You forgot the wheels - much better than standard

I laughed out loud when i seen the thumbnails

Well. If I buy the regular XC-w I make RMATV happy….cause I have to make a big order. So I see it as a wash.

Man I hope I win one of these bikes 🙏

yah its worth the diff fr sure imho,

Pipe guard? I would destroy my pipe so fast on the trails I ride. Amazed you don’t use them out there in rocky Utah.

100 hours on a stock aluminum sprocket? Maybe if there’s 60 hours of idle time!

99.9 percent of people buying this model don't care about the extra cost, they want it because it's a special edition and looks custom built, the wheels and orange frame give it a custom look that is quite noticeable, sure you could easily do all that stuff yourself, which is what I would do but a lot of people don't work on or build bikes like I do and cost is not really an issue then for them it's worth it

Bling doesn't win races.. these bikes are way to expensive, but people still buy them, so thats that... and for the price, the bikes should come with all this.. no its not worth it, ill do the bike the way i want it...

The hard, fast rule... never down play or critical what another work hard to own. Good way to lose some of your base. The market calls for the HE and is now hard to find. KTM may be laughing on the way to the bank, but the owners are laughing with them. Cause they love it, too.

The erzberg or any special edition bike is never worth it. But the hard enduro 2024 bike is hands down the best looking bike ever. Yes I know we don’t buy off looks but you know what they say look good feel good ride good.

Im so over KTM after 20 years of buying the latest greatest and riding nothing but orange, I realized that I am better off spending that extra money on training and going riding

Billet aluminum is not as strong as forged aluminum.

Dude..... you clearly never been in a hard enduro race in wet conditions. That extra grip in the seat, the hand guards are basic hard enduro extras... keep it in mind for your next review.

It’s beautiful but it wouldn’t make me a better rider and it would be more painful to watch it get all best to crap over a few years.

the wheels are both lighter and stronger

Its exc with powerparts 😂

Overall it’s more bling less benefit technically.

Some ppl run there living on investment, therefore this is worth it ( you may not understand )

The EC gas gas model has all the options, And is cheaper. Wide ratio transmission and flywheel weight, I don't believe you guys understand what is necessary to make a hard endurol motorcycle, a track bike does notv work, It has nothing to do with pull straps or the color of the bike.

They're promoting hard enduro because they're getting waxed in Enduro GP. Notice they don't have a Enduro GP edition?

I think you should do a dual sport giveaway, i think that would go big...

the graphics make it look cheap imo and are far worse than aftermarket designs, i say this as a ktm lover, i have two and have ridden orange forever, the additional parts add up to a very small amount from ali express, laughable but then again people are slags for 'limited' editions

It’s sweet though! But def overpriced lol

I'd be more excited if they sold a bike with better suspension 😂.. all ktm have done is rename a six days model bike as "hard enduro" 😂

Do folk still buy GayTM's?

Like intel processors , ktm is queezing the toothpaste so to speak... alot of money for little value... waiting for cfmoto and kove to play their cards~