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@fokker1138
@fokker1138 3 часа назад
"Three year trial..." That's not a trial, that's getting someone hooked to ensure the masses pay up.
@jeffzebert4982
@jeffzebert4982 Час назад
Instead, I think that the masses will learn how to construct their own cars; and will start doing just that!
@duser
@duser 41 минуту назад
bro my dealer gave me 3 free samples and it worked for legal reasons thats a joke
@Mister_Zoid
@Mister_Zoid 3 часа назад
Car Connected Services should be outlawed. There is ZERO excueses besides simply spying and scamming to make your car connect to the internet.
@HalfwayHikes
@HalfwayHikes Час назад
Government WANTS this kind of thing. They’re not gonna stop it. It’s gonna get even more invasive. This is just the beginning to the government’s ability to track and even disable your car - for “security”.
@Anonymous______________
@Anonymous______________ Час назад
On the contrary, thanks to the infrastructure bill, it will be the opposite in the future. This legislation mandates that all vehicles must have some sort of safety interlock system that's able to detect whether or not a driver is impaired using image recognition, software and cameras. In addition, the government wishes to track vehicle operators mileage. In order to do so, there must be some sort of telemetry devices that phone home for the purpose of usage fees. You can thank President, Biden and the Congress for taking away even more of your privacy.
@kevinc7632
@kevinc7632 Час назад
And you will pay the remote start fee to pay for this privilege yourself.
@AraCarrano
@AraCarrano 51 минуту назад
what about long used EU reg that mandated cars have 3g onboard to call emergency services in the event of airbag deployment?
@TheVincentKyle
@TheVincentKyle 22 минуты назад
@@Anonymous______________ Well if nothing else the people of this nation have repeatedly demonstrated their ability to get loud, angry (and often very stupid) at pretty much anything. Who's up for a little flag-waving?
@gfrewqpoiu
@gfrewqpoiu 3 часа назад
By now "How you are getting F*ed" should be a full series, with intro and everything. It is insane how many companies decide to just give no shit about their customers and treat them like garbage.
@XAn0nymousX0
@XAn0nymousX0 3 часа назад
I find it very hard to believe this isn't on purpose as well and agreed upon by the leaders in each industry. Because there's no competition not doing this garbage. All these companies are doing these changes at the same time. We really do need a startup who "built their own car industry". We need vehicles that are just vehicles, not computers that spy on you and have "services" locked behind paywalls.
@scottanderson691
@scottanderson691 3 часа назад
As soon as they realized they have a captive (and lazy) audience, it was all over.
@3nertia
@3nertia Час назад
Welcome to capitalism ...
@ZdrmonsterProductions
@ZdrmonsterProductions Час назад
@@3nertia yes
@twobuck4093
@twobuck4093 Час назад
Today on "How you are getting F*ed" MAZDA!!
@crabsoft
@crabsoft 3 часа назад
The craziest thing about this generation is the belief that software has to suck. Being old enough to remember the before times really makes stuff land different.
@artyd42
@artyd42 Час назад
Fall Damage. You're all welcome that it doesn't hard crash every server in the world.
@JH-pt6ih
@JH-pt6ih Час назад
This is too true. Too many people have come to accept, "the consumer is always wrong," so even when something doesn't work like it should, the user is at fault.
@crabsoft
@crabsoft Час назад
@@JH-pt6ih I think there's just a baseless assumption, in a lot of cases, that folks are doing the best they can. Like, menus that have a full second of input delay, folks will just assume that if there was a faster way they'd do it.
@SwervingLemon
@SwervingLemon Час назад
This is as much you and I's generation fault, dude. We're the generation running the corps that are pulling this crap to "maximize shareholder values".
@LOLHICRONO
@LOLHICRONO 19 минут назад
@@crabsoft guess their best isnt even close to being good enough
@royferntorp
@royferntorp 3 часа назад
We figured out how to get past the BMW heated seat thing. Power to a relay. Check engine light comes on. Clear OBD2 codes. Comes back. Your seats still work.
@scimbrelo
@scimbrelo 3 часа назад
intentionally falsifying a check engine light should be a federal crime
@legendaryzfps
@legendaryzfps 3 часа назад
Until the next OTA update... Internet connection is required for drivers safety obviously
@DarkForce2024
@DarkForce2024 2 часа назад
@@scimbrelo To be on or off? I'm confused. Your check engine light can illuminate due to something as simple as a bad gas cap. I've drove cars for years with the check engine light on, typically it's an O2 sensor. You might get 0.5mpg less, but it's not the end of the world.
@lukedolce8583
@lukedolce8583 2 часа назад
@@DarkForce2024in many states you cannot pass yearly safety inspection with a check engine light on .
@2buds1shroom
@2buds1shroom 2 часа назад
@@scimbrelo Ummm... You're saying that BMW is falsifying the check engine light here, right?
@nothinglasts
@nothinglasts 3 часа назад
I drive a 2023 VW, it came with remote start through the key fob and the smart phone app. For about 2 months, I noticed that the key fob stopped working when trying to remote start the car. This was right around a year after "buying" the car. My first thought was that it was a year "trial" of the remote start function that expired and I was never informed about at the dealer. I immediately thought of Louis' take on these practices. I then decided to load the app which I never use and upon logging in, I had to accept not one but two new terms of service before even getting to the car information. Once there, I noticed that it was still covered under the remote start package and to my surprise, the key fob remote start button combo began to work again. At this point, I'm assuming that I needed to log back into the app and accept the new TOS before the key fob worked to remote start "my" car.
@TheSmokeWatcher
@TheSmokeWatcher 2 часа назад
That is scary……. Like Black Mirror scary 😟
@banko-xv4rt
@banko-xv4rt Час назад
so you are made to agree with a new contract to use the product you own? this gotta be unlawful
@joshua7551
@joshua7551 Час назад
@@banko-xv4rt IT IS! Unfortunately, nobody has the time or the money to take these bastards to court over it.
@clinttube
@clinttube Час назад
Just to clarify, does the key fob remote start operate via direct radio link to your car like traditional systems? I'm assuming that is what you're saying, just wondering if they have an intermediated system like if it had a small cell transceiver and therefore the fob can operate anywhere in the world theoretically but has to get routed around (like the case in this video as I understand it). If they actually actively disabled your entirely independent remote start system that is range bound to your car to get you to sign TOS, that HAS to be illegal. Why couldn't they just refuse to unlock the doors or let the engine start instead? They could and eventually, they surely will. Preemptive PS Edit: I think what happened in this video (as I understand it) SHOULD also be illegal, but I wouldn't bet money on it. In the situation I describe above, I'd bet money that IS illegal already.
@kevinc7632
@kevinc7632 58 минут назад
My audi has logged me out of the infotainment multiple times cause the myaudi app updated. Had to agree to tos and log back in. Last audi/vw i lease or buy. Feel like guest in my own vehicle.
@HelmutDoork
@HelmutDoork 3 часа назад
Someone needs to start a Pirate Bay for banned OS software.
@binhonz
@binhonz Час назад
And service level management software for all makes.
@StormsparkPegasus
@StormsparkPegasus 3 часа назад
Need to mirror that open source app in like 100,000 different locations. Share it openly. I will not ever subscribe to jack shit. I will pirate everything instead.
@HerbaMachina
@HerbaMachina 3 часа назад
Perfect opportunity for torrents lol
@connorelliott7881
@connorelliott7881 3 часа назад
if dropshipping companies are allowed to copy-paste themselves across multiple "brands" to get away from accountability when their product kills your pet, I don't see anything unethical about copy-pasting application code across hundreds of "programs" to circumvent frivolous dmca strikes
@animejanai4657
@animejanai4657 2 часа назад
Encryption for each device means each device has to be individually cracked for the specific hardware it is running upon. So no more single cracks that works for everyone. Phone home encryption will also recheck the software AND hardware for tampering and brick it by burning out a link. Only the factory can replace burned out links because it is embedded inside the chip (such things have long existed).
@darrenlewis8297
@darrenlewis8297 2 часа назад
its been known github is not the place to go for such projects. Github is complacent in all of it
@nunyabusiness7602
@nunyabusiness7602 2 часа назад
Shiver my timbers, I be thinkin the same. Welcome aboard Matey.
@Maelael
@Maelael 3 часа назад
Eff these subscription services popping up left and right!!! Does these bastards all think that we all make a doctor's salary!? Boycott Mazda!!
@hellocar123
@hellocar123 2 часа назад
even if i did make a doctors salary i would still like to keep my money and not pay for every single bullshit thing
@sanderaits
@sanderaits 2 часа назад
Did you watch the video to the end?
@3nertia
@3nertia Час назад
They don't care what we make - they only care what they can make 😉
@stevewalker2028
@stevewalker2028 Час назад
All the manufacturers are doing it. The answer is to not buy new cars, but instead spend the money keeping older ones in good condition. When they see spyware is damaging their profits, they'll stop. Not before.
@grimspyder0001
@grimspyder0001 Час назад
@@stevewalker2028 This is the answer. Except to many suckers exist today.
@OrbisCenter
@OrbisCenter 3 часа назад
Reject Modernity, Embrace Repairability!
@seanwilson9925
@seanwilson9925 3 часа назад
What does that even mean?
@Cybersawz
@Cybersawz 3 часа назад
Embrace true ownership!
@jimdelsol1941
@jimdelsol1941 2 часа назад
it's sad we have to come to that.
@kwl189
@kwl189 48 минут назад
@@seanwilson9925the fact you need to write that… 🤦🏽‍♂️
@TheKinren
@TheKinren 3 часа назад
Wait until the Funeral Homes figure out how to do service charges
@xvdifug
@xvdifug 3 часа назад
Eternal Care Services
@connorelliott7881
@connorelliott7881 3 часа назад
$20/month or grandma is getting incinerated by the Smart Coffin
@ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti2861
@ibelieveinjesusinmyspareti2861 3 часа назад
@@connorelliott7881 wifi and bt?
@daexion
@daexion 2 часа назад
They already do.
@swagmuffin9000
@swagmuffin9000 2 часа назад
I mean, hospice care is a subscription scam.
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket 3 часа назад
This needs to be a class action lawsuit, seems like bait and switch. At the same time we need regulations to stop this kind of behavior. Personally I'll rip out the cars ECU and replace it with a custom one before I pay a subscription for hardware I own.
@drkastenbrot
@drkastenbrot 3 часа назад
thankfully there is a pretty big market of drop in ecus that do just that
@-Garviel_Loken-
@-Garviel_Loken- 2 часа назад
You don’t even need to do that, just buy some tuning software that lets you flash the ECU
@B.D.TRX4
@B.D.TRX4 2 часа назад
@@-Garviel_Loken- then void the warranty
@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity
@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity 2 часа назад
Seems like? It absolutely is a bait and switch.
@M167A1
@M167A1 2 часа назад
​@@I_am_a_human_not_a_commodityI bottom-ozed a couple years ago, and there are disclaimers all over the thing that it ends in three years, so I don't think that's going very far.
@fantasynovel5357
@fantasynovel5357 2 часа назад
Car thieves already figured this out. They can walk up to your car, hack it, open your door and then remote start it. Then they just hop in and drive away.
@TheWebstaff
@TheWebstaff Час назад
Bit different to that but yes the guns argument probably is valid here.
@SlinkyD
@SlinkyD Час назад
Forgot to switch atls, ​@@TheWebstaff
@kwl189
@kwl189 51 минуту назад
Only that’s a different system they’re hacking into. Keyless entry. Slightly different to remote start up function being disabled by a subscription service. Semantics to the side, I can’t wait for piracy to come back and bite these thieving corporate bastards. I still wish there was an easy way to disable keyless entry without the use of a Faraday cage to cut the signal off.
@TWillBeer
@TWillBeer Час назад
Thank you for talking about this. It’s fucked that they put remote start EXCLUSIVELY on a shitty app that barely functions.
@GandalfThePlaid
@GandalfThePlaid 3 часа назад
When I bought my latest car, they wanted me to have an app put on my phone so I could try out the free trial. Told the sales dude I didn't want to bother for several reasons including I didn't trust the manufacturer to properly support a wide range of phones. I then tried to find it in the app store and it didn't show up cause they didn't support my phone. The look on the sales guy's face tickled me to death. Fob only for me buddy!
@Your-Senpai
@Your-Senpai 3 часа назад
I love my 1997 shitbox fiesta. I'll never leave it for the car that forces me to buy a subscription to use a feature that is already installed in it.
@connorelliott7881
@connorelliott7881 2 часа назад
same, I love my 2017 shitbox fiesta because even 20 years after designing yours it's still such a plebian vehicle they never even bothered to put anything "smart" into it.
@Your-Senpai
@Your-Senpai 2 часа назад
@@connorelliott7881 viva la fiesta 🗿
@IntegerOfDoom
@IntegerOfDoom 2 минуты назад
Yup! I love my nugget cars.
@BrandtAbsolu
@BrandtAbsolu 3 часа назад
I remember when remote start and remote keyless entry didn't need someone else's server to be involved. Good thing I don't drive anymore.
@animejanai4657
@animejanai4657 2 часа назад
The publicity and EFFECTIVE boycott is needed to make them stop. It worked with BMW when it tried to make heated seats into a subscription service.
@kevinerbs2778
@kevinerbs2778 3 часа назад
If buy isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing. No change of contract AFTER POINT OF SALE!
@shocktnc
@shocktnc 3 часа назад
Not being able to own something does not justify taking it illegally.
@DjornNorthfield
@DjornNorthfield 3 часа назад
​@@shocktnc, if you make a copy of something, how is that a taking?
@kevinerbs2778
@kevinerbs2778 3 часа назад
@@DjornNorthfield immitation is supposed to be the greatest form falltary.
@shocktnc
@shocktnc 2 часа назад
​@@DjornNorthfieldyou can do whatever you want to justify it in your head, I have had this conversation many times- it always ends with people being unwilling to go without something they can't own legally. I get the frustration with these constant scams and unfair business practices, but when you start breaking the law you lose the integrity that you're upset these companies don't have. I don't pretend the law is always the moral authority please don't get me wrong, but when your taking or illegally copying someones product without paying for it you are in effect stealing it. Just because you aren't actually taking a physical product doesn't mean it's automatically okay.
@Josh-b3c
@Josh-b3c 2 часа назад
Yeah except whenever you've already paid for it you already paid the agreed upon price they said you didn't make up a price and then give them that much and then claim to own it you paid what they wanted then they changed the rules afterwards
@Cyromantik
@Cyromantik 2 часа назад
So happy to have a 12 year old car. She's a subcompact (kei) that seats 5, including the driver, has surprising leg and headroom for my 187cm frame, antilock, stability control, 5.1 Dolby and a horrifically out of date Navi? My car is completely incapable of calling the mothership, disabling features if I don't pay a sub or spying on myself or my family. My car is not infotainment on wheels, it's just a car.
@emenesu
@emenesu 2 часа назад
Mazda, you were the chosen one.
@aygwm
@aygwm 45 минут назад
My 1994 Miata would love to have a word with Mazda.
@BBonsteel
@BBonsteel 26 минут назад
They made a big statement about not putting in giant, distracting touchscreens on their dashboards so the driver can stay focused. I thought they were the good guys..
@x_ph1l
@x_ph1l 2 часа назад
Home Assistant is great. Just installed it last week to control lighting, heating and ventilation in my workshop. All local. No need to worry if/when someone will screw you over.
@Kartavya64
@Kartavya64 3 часа назад
In the first 30 seconds of video, Louis spoke about 5 minutes of words.
@Allen-by6ci
@Allen-by6ci 3 часа назад
You can take the yankee out of NY, but you cant take the NY out of the yankee
@aj.j5833
@aj.j5833 3 часа назад
That's a NYer for you.
@sidensvans67
@sidensvans67 3 часа назад
I get out of breath just listening to him .
@michaelgrover3443
@michaelgrover3443 3 часа назад
I thought I had it on 1.75x speed
@PrivatePenis
@PrivatePenis 3 часа назад
Thought he put this video on 1.5x speed
@cashcowcommissions6790
@cashcowcommissions6790 3 часа назад
I will NEVER buy a Mazda or any vehicle who sells subscriptions! NEVER!
@pooshiesty
@pooshiesty 2 часа назад
+1. Same with too many "smart" features. Data logging, etc. I have my phone for all my "smart" needs. My car needs to be mechanically connected to the wheels with minimal computers and sensors between
@pvshka
@pvshka 2 часа назад
That's the catch. Soon all of them will do this. And everything else scummy they can think of. And then eventually we end up without a choice. That's their endgame here.
@Jeffrey_Wong
@Jeffrey_Wong Час назад
I guess you can always buy a bike
@ZdrmonsterProductions
@ZdrmonsterProductions Час назад
@@Jeffrey_Wong ^This or just walking in the future, cars destroy the environment.
@raitchison
@raitchison Час назад
Good luck finding any vehicle in the future that doesn't offer subscriptions.
@kevinerbs2778
@kevinerbs2778 3 часа назад
Section 1201 is illeaglly enacted as it voilates consumer laws of & at point of sales contract. By changing the contract after sale. You cannot change a products contract after point of sale. a After money was exchanged. Charge back on the car lol
@coltergiest
@coltergiest 3 часа назад
How does the DMCA apply to a physical object, like a car? An object that, in all other aspects, you are free to modify in literally any way you want to, in most cases with commercially available aftermarket parts. This seems like something a motivated and competent lawyer could easily win.
@carly09et
@carly09et 2 часа назад
No it is DMCA applies to the Standard. This has been true 'forever'. Corporations have just got better at conning people. It is the problem of regulatory capture!
@swagmuffin9000
@swagmuffin9000 2 часа назад
Even moderate, competent lawyers cost a lot tho. This is also assuming you get a good, not corrupt judge. Personally, i would go for it, but i understand not wanting the stress and risk/reward
@reddragonflyxx657
@reddragonflyxx657 2 часа назад
Actually there's a significant issue with design patents on car parts, where companies can't make replacement headlight assemblies which look the same as the original. Plus there's trademark protection on the logos and iconic features (like front grilles), and copyright on the design of the car. The DMCA thing is probably because it's a "circumvention tool" for "DRM" protecting copyrighted software.
@Code7Unltd
@Code7Unltd 2 часа назад
Simple. Anti-circumvention clauses. Owning a set of ideas is a ridiculous concept and should be grounds for intellectual property to be abolished.
@seannissen2509
@seannissen2509 2 часа назад
@@reddragonflyxx657 funny story. Coworker recently had an accident. Not too much damage but headlight fucked. Apparently they couldn't just pop in a new one but whole assemble... and yeah not only none they could find in stock but couldn't just make a new one. Took something like 3 months just to get a replacement headllight
@Doc4
@Doc4 3 часа назад
Gee, I hope no one downloaded and archived the program for later distribution 😌 (Same with those AC units from a while back)
@partyflockske
@partyflockske 3 часа назад
indeed, let's hope that didn't or does not happen... please, please .. :)
@ghb323
@ghb323 Час назад
fuck yep, Reuploaded that biatch on github. 🖕Mazda
@Simon-ui6db
@Simon-ui6db 3 часа назад
I for one don't want remote start. One less thing to go wrong. I'm happy using the key and putting it in the ignition and turning it like a caveman.
@enemyspotted2467
@enemyspotted2467 2 часа назад
You clearly don’t live in a region with cold winters haha
@oh_zoinkers
@oh_zoinkers 2 часа назад
@@enemyspotted2467or south where it’s hot af in summer. Remote start is so nice
@zonzillamagnus5902
@zonzillamagnus5902 2 часа назад
@@enemyspotted2467I lived in central Alberta with -40 to -60 winters. One, I wouldn’t have a Mazda there, but also I didnt mind turning the key and then scraping Windows
@TopiasSalakka
@TopiasSalakka 2 часа назад
​@@enemyspotted2467Remote start is the worst way to heat up a car in the cold.
@-Gorby-
@-Gorby- Час назад
@@TopiasSalakka Depends on your definition of "heat up" - letting it idle for 5 minutes is fine.
@LiesThatBind
@LiesThatBind 3 часа назад
Nothing new, Mazda isn't the only culprit. Chevrolet, Tesla and pretty much any car manufacturer who builds electric cars require a subscription to use the multimedia services. They are removing apple carplay and android auto in favour of Android base proprietary systems or similar systems so that they can charge subscriptions..
@LethalJizzle
@LethalJizzle 28 минут назад
Noticed the new Nissan Qashqai ad says "Google services free for 3 years, charge may apply after". Imagine owning a car for 3 years then the infotainment system is suddenly all "fuck you pay me". Didn't realise automakers were removing Android auto but it makes sense if it's to stop consumers using their phones so they have to pay the ransom. Awful.
@Makerr8
@Makerr8 2 часа назад
Now who should people sue for this; the manufacturer for now charging for a feature that is part of the car or the dealership that has now lied to customers that a feature comes with the car their purchasing? Sounds to me like dealerships need to be fighting the manufacturers on items like these...
@Audiogeek-kf2ez
@Audiogeek-kf2ez 3 часа назад
Once this comes out to the public sales drop. not drastic, but sales do drip. Many people drumo the brand, not just the car, the entire brand name loses and entire family
@TimelessThetaSigma
@TimelessThetaSigma 2 часа назад
People laughs at me because my brand new Mitsuhishi Outlander Sport has keys, none of that infotainment stuff and buttons everywhere, and the maximum it has is Bluetooth to connect to my phone. A time tested engine and a stick instead of buttons.
@RedLine_Renesis
@RedLine_Renesis 3 часа назад
This has to be an American Mazda thing. I recently had an engine replacement on my RX-8 and just got it back a week ago. After the engine was installed by a certified mechanic, the car had to go to the nearest Mazda dealer to certify the installation was done correctly, connect the car to their computers and finally give me the warranty on the core. I told Mazda upfront I modified their OEM ECU to trigger the fans on a lower coolant temperature to prolong engine life and increased idle for better oil pressure. They were 100% okay with it. Not only I drive my car happily again, I get a 2 year / 20.000 KM warranty on the engine core for a 2005 car. Mazda in Europe and Japan are MVPs.
@1738-l1j
@1738-l1j Час назад
Sir that car is old we are talking about 2020 cars
@Deses
@Deses 3 часа назад
Man, I love my 2009 Skoda. It has an engine, 4 wheels and AC. What else do I need?
@pabllosee
@pabllosee 3 часа назад
Engine that do not consume oil?
@Simon-ui6db
@Simon-ui6db 3 часа назад
A radio.
@JanNovak-pg8oe
@JanNovak-pg8oe 3 часа назад
Škoda was never sold in USA. 😀 I doubt Louis has ever heard that name. VW is sold there, Audi is, but no Seat or Škoda.
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 3 часа назад
​@pabllosee I have a couple cars from that era with plenty of miles. They're great, the AC works, my heated seats even work! 😂 Edit because I forgot to answer the original question. Neither consume oil. They occasionally develop a leak but generally it's easily fixed and I move on.
@replynotificationsdisabled
@replynotificationsdisabled 2 часа назад
That just means fresh oil supply brother! Row Ted! Hehe, I need to fix my vent vale causing my 11 Rio a lean cylinder one. Probably valve seats too, oil on the plugs, but that just means premix, and I feel like a 2 stroker with some white smoke ya know! Brap brap ​@@pabllosee
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 2 часа назад
Remember the good old days, when stuff like DMCA were there to protect copyrights?
@tobyzilla2.074
@tobyzilla2.074 2 часа назад
And now it's being used for potentially illegal practices like the abusing the patent system to kill competition like what Nintendo is doing with palworld
@triton199
@triton199 15 минут назад
remember the good old days, before the DMCA? lol, afaik its basically always been a tool for companies to punish people for "stealing" its just gotten worse as they've figured out new and exciting ways to abuse it (copyright trolls, DMCA takedown abuse etc)
@chrisp7729
@chrisp7729 3 часа назад
In a time when creators stretch 5 minutes of content into a 10 minute and 1 second video Louis gives 15 minutes worth in 7 and a half.
@terig5584
@terig5584 3 часа назад
Wait, not just remote start, but remote keyless entry?? Good god, civilization is fried.
@donquique1
@donquique1 3 часа назад
Ffs that is insane.
@MattH-wg7ou
@MattH-wg7ou 3 часа назад
Why does that need Mazdas servers? My 2013 Honda does all that without remote servers.
@meetshield2461
@meetshield2461 2 часа назад
the key fobs have keyless entry, you just cant start it from the fob, unless you buy a separate one for a couple hundo. on 2021 and newer anyways.
@aadipai
@aadipai Час назад
They have a "waive your legal rights away" clause in their agreement for the free trial remote start now.
@grabasandwich
@grabasandwich 3 часа назад
Imagine if a car manufacturer came along and did everything for the people. Minimal electronics, lots of customizability, etc. People would probably flock to it and it would flourish. But instead we have this and guys like Elmo.
@Sopel997
@Sopel997 3 часа назад
Doing this now would be premature and void years of potential guaranteed profit. They can milk the customers with shady stuff for years. Maybe in 50 years what you're saying will be the best business strategy.
@cheesecurd100s
@cheesecurd100s 3 часа назад
The problem is it's only a small percentage of the population that wants simplicity. Most people like shiny gimmicks, and companies love being able to mark stuff up to 100 thousand for the added "features"
@HelmutDoork
@HelmutDoork 3 часа назад
A HUGE reason for a lot of the electronic junk in cars is CAFE standards, which force manufacturers to squeeze every last mpg out of a car. This makes it impossible for anyone to manufacture a simple to repair, basic car like the old pre 80's VW Beetles and Buses. Big daddy government helped to create this monster. Now the car companies are taking advantage of the computers they had to put into cars in order to meet CAFE standards to screw the customers with SaaS(software as a service) agreements. So now the customers are in the position of having to get on their knees to big daddy government and ask them to put some controls on the monster they helped to create in the first place.
@kellybrandon1179
@kellybrandon1179 3 часа назад
Corruption digs deep down to the devils playground. Literally, corporate America's subterranean world
@itrytobeanonymoustoo5289
@itrytobeanonymoustoo5289 2 часа назад
A double whammy, a subscription plus an attack on open source.
@nickvaleontis4657
@nickvaleontis4657 3 часа назад
Lots of respect once again.
@Grulaz
@Grulaz 3 часа назад
this is hard... i really liked Mazda
@reed3863
@reed3863 3 часа назад
Everyone's jumping in on racing to get to the bottom. I love it.
@SamuelVain
@SamuelVain Час назад
This is why I will be keeping my 1988 f150, my 2001 Acura cls, and my 1987 Buick century. MY car! I own it! No one can help them and no one can tell me what I can and can't do. MY CARS!😊
@Mike-s9d
@Mike-s9d 3 часа назад
Lol I just got this message this weekend 😂😂😂
@hillogical
@hillogical 3 часа назад
does the fob still work or is that just app functionality? I'm curious as Jeep wanted me to install the app, but I wouldn't since I can't use remote start on stick shift. My fob doesn't even have the button. Kid trying to convince me couldn't figure it out.
@nancyparker8363
@nancyparker8363 2 часа назад
@@hillogicalSounds like things ended in your favor 🎉🎉
@BreadMane
@BreadMane 3 часа назад
RU-vid used to be free without ads Now they want you to pay to take away ads
@HelmutDoork
@HelmutDoork 3 часа назад
RU-vid started sucking after Google bought it.
@Pie-jacker875
@Pie-jacker875 20 минут назад
@@HelmutDoork that happened in 2006
@nanoflower1
@nanoflower1 2 часа назад
Something that doesn't even need the server access for the features people really want. The health portion is something few people care about, but the remote start/key access is important and only needs to connect to the car, not some remote server.
@spellcrafter23
@spellcrafter23 Час назад
The "Mazda connected service" was something NOBODY ASKED FOR!!! it's my damn car!!
@MeowThingy
@MeowThingy 31 минуту назад
You should lobby for a law that makes it illegal to knowingly file false DMCA claims.
@tenzingyatso5096
@tenzingyatso5096 2 часа назад
Lol, remote start is illegal in Poland. By the law the driver must supervise the car
@tonyf.9806
@tonyf.9806 2 часа назад
The keyless entry/remote start used to be a $200ish add-on. so in less than 2 years, you'll have already paid that feature off, but still have to keep paying for the life of the car if you want to use it.
@aadipai
@aadipai Час назад
The day my mazda 3 remote start trial ends. I'm getting a key fob start installed. Fuck em.
@kipper2k
@kipper2k 3 часа назад
mazda is off the shopping list
@Bladel1965
@Bladel1965 2 часа назад
Sure, but what's still on it? A (non-electric) bike?
@snowblow1984
@snowblow1984 2 часа назад
I am not sure what he is talking about because I did get a Mazda in 23 and Mazda connect is free. Not that one absolutely needs it.
@Madzguy007
@Madzguy007 2 часа назад
Everyone's doing it/or starting to do it... I guess at this point, it's best to stick to old cars with no computers
@erikv2540
@erikv2540 2 часа назад
@@snowblow1984It’s a 3-year free trial then a subscription afterwards. They sell your info and you consent by using the Mazda app
@chrisalley6282
@chrisalley6282 2 часа назад
Too bad. My first car was an RX-7 and I LOVED it
@ldsiverling
@ldsiverling 3 часа назад
i like mazda but their tech stuff is scummy. Especially charging $400 for the map navigation microSD.
@peterromano1911
@peterromano1911 Час назад
Mazda is not the only automotive manufacturer that is doing this. We didn't pay for the manufacturers to spy on our driving habits and sell that data to our insurance companies either.
@flyer617
@flyer617 Час назад
Many modern cars have the ability to learn your garage door opener code so you can easily open your door without having to carry the remote. Tesla wants you to pay $45 a year for a MyQ subscription. I guess that didn't go over very well so now they will sell you a $350 option to do the same thing. Me? I just keep the damn remote clipped to my visor. Free.
@RandomGreenFishPhone
@RandomGreenFishPhone Час назад
I bought a Mazda this year and I didn't even bother installing the Mazda Connect App when I actually read the EULA and saw there was a section where I would be giving Mazda permission to share my driving data with 3rd parties. I unfortunately can't use the remote start as a result of not allowing them to spy on me.
@petermetro4686
@petermetro4686 Час назад
and at the same time we are paranoid of Chinese vehicles that spy on us rather than cars that ef us.
@rick_.
@rick_. 2 часа назад
The real issue isn't the requirement to pay for cellular services. That is only fair. The real problem is that they stopped offering keyfob-based remote start. Sure, you can install a third-party one, but how hard would it have been to keep offering an OEM version?
@PulledPurk
@PulledPurk 2 часа назад
NO MAZDA YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
@JK-ld8cd
@JK-ld8cd 3 часа назад
wait till they initiate subscription service to use your A/C
@nychold
@nychold 3 часа назад
Client-Server architecture became Client Tongue-Company Asshole architecture.
@patekswiss9521
@patekswiss9521 2 часа назад
BMW is doing the same thing, at least in their MINI product. You cannot use remote start without a subscription. Also, the car lacks the integrated garage door opener people have become accustomed to for decades. If you don't want to have the opener in your car and use MyQ, you also need a subscription pay service. Unless customers reject products that do this, it will continue to expand.
@SlavTiger
@SlavTiger 3 часа назад
never buying anything from any company that pulls this bs. id hotwire my own fucking car that I paid for before paying 1.2k a year on the ability to start my fucking vehicle
@Ed_Stuckey
@Ed_Stuckey 3 часа назад
_FUTO Automotive Control App_ Coming when?
@ragsy887
@ragsy887 Час назад
My dream of owning a 1965 F-truck is sounding better and better
@mattgreenwoods4994
@mattgreenwoods4994 3 часа назад
things keep getting worse :/
@electric26
@electric26 Минуту назад
Welcome to modernity
@mikezappulla4092
@mikezappulla4092 2 часа назад
At the same time they sell your info to 3rd parties that can drive up your insurance rates.
@mdrdprtcl
@mdrdprtcl 3 часа назад
Yo fuck section 1201 of the DMCA
@mironkorzalko7761
@mironkorzalko7761 2 часа назад
Bro, I jumped on my phone to give a thumbs up on this video bc as I watch yt vids on my TV there's no option to comment or give a thumbs up. I'm watching you on the yt app on my TV n I'm on my phone thanking you. Have a good day.
@RipRoaringGarage
@RipRoaringGarage Час назад
This service stuff is why I have parted a quarter million dollars worth of brand new cars.....and why Im playing with an 85 Trans Am Ironically, its remote start system no longer lets me start the car, due to backyard wiring hackery...but at least, I got original schematics, and can revert to that. I am full, return to monke mode. Back to the Future, its 1985, but I dont got a DeLorean, but I got a manual 5sp T top Trans Am with really bad paint. I am dont buying new stuff. If I cant buy it from a swap meat, or craigslist or whatever, Im done! I am effing DONE!!!
@friendlyfire7861
@friendlyfire7861 Час назад
I always think I have playback speed on 2x when I start a Louis video, and then I'm like, "Oh, ya I forgot. It's Louis." 😂
@Steaphany
@Steaphany 36 минут назад
Louis, Can we just pull the 2A / Amazon 10A fuses on the specific systems we want to disable ? Remote start - Pull the Fuse Entertainment System Adverts - Pull the Fuse In car monitoring / reporting - Pull the Fuse Driving data logger / black box - Pull the Fuse Big Brother Data Connectivity - Pull the Fuse Distracting Driver Touch Screen - Pull the Fuse
@HangOudere
@HangOudere 2 часа назад
I sympathise with this alot. I'm in Europe (Netherlands) and I have 5 year private lease contract for my Electric VW car. One of the great features (especialy in winter time) is that i can go on the phone app for my car and remotely tell it to warm the interior and (if there is snow or ice) i can tell it to heat the windows to melt the ice in advance. However, 3 years into the contract, it tells me my subscription term of this usage has expired and i had to spend a little under 200 euro's to keep using this feature for the remaining 2 years. So i get there is a certain cost to provide a connection to my car and use this kind of feature remotely. HOWEVER, this is by no means made clear up front it's only for the first 3 years of the contract and secondly there is no alternative way to use this functionality. It simply is not something i can do from within the car. There are no buttons, there is no functionality in the on board system that enables you to have your car perform this functionality outside of the app.
@2QRh6g1I
@2QRh6g1I 43 минуты назад
try a 3rd party remote start system
@matjazwalland903
@matjazwalland903 3 часа назад
Please correct me! If I remember wrongly, there is a clause in the legislation that allows reconstruction (creating a copy of the original) If you are not educated in the field you are copying and creating for your own use! Which is a stupid clause because it allows physical and financial damage to be caused, but allows you to make a copy of the product for your own use.
@Sohryu-Asuka-Langley
@Sohryu-Asuka-Langley 2 часа назад
Every time I drive a modern car or work on one, I become more thankful my used 2002 BMW 530d existed long before subscriptions and stupid "connected" cars. If I was forced to take a new car, then it would be anything WITHOUT internet enscheissification "features". I'd rather drive a base model penalty box than have every insurance extortionist know how I drive.
@spencer9488
@spencer9488 Час назад
Louis Rossmann does an exceptional job exposing shady business practices. I’m glad he addressed this issue. Mazda is putting out quality vehicles at reasonable prices, but it’s disappointing to see them tarnish that reputation by turning standard features into subscription services. Shame on Mazda and any company that forces unnecessary subscriptions onto consumers.
@grimspyder0001
@grimspyder0001 Час назад
The first time I heard about "as a service", I knew it was bullshit. Today many years later, it is not only Bullshit it is also a SCAM!!!!! "As a service" can go to hell.
@robgoffroad
@robgoffroad 2 часа назад
Mazda can bite me. Add them to the list of Never Buy One Again.
@alp6475
@alp6475 Час назад
Thought I forgot to remove 1.25x speed at the beginning there… I actually checked :)
@dash4800
@dash4800 Час назад
Nissan also charges for remote start. Had it for 3 months and then the "trial" ended and it became a subscription. Idk how much it is because I never even considered paying for that. But yeah, everything in new cars is going this way.
@binhonz
@binhonz Час назад
I own a JDM spec 2009 Mazda MPV that has an RF remote for the remote start function. I don't need that to be an app on my phone and I don't use it often, maybe a dozen times an year when is really cold outside and I want the car warmed up inside. Sometime, someone will come up with a home assistant like platform that supports CAN bus and everyone will start buying cars pre 2015 so they can automate things themselves.
@darkgtprince
@darkgtprince 2 часа назад
what were those old ads? "You wouldn't pirate a car". Here we are in 2024 and the answer is yes
@sabertoothanimations2912
@sabertoothanimations2912 Час назад
I only been watching you and others like you for so long, i mean heck i only really got on line in 2019, so admittedly a lot of how bad these companies got is just kinda smacking me in the face I hope i see more people like you out there, working on getting the forbidden Grey jay to work on my PC Lol
@AraCarrano
@AraCarrano Час назад
They will learn like other OEM, You must offer both a cry a little each month fee or buy once cry once feature that is active for the duration of the original purchaser possession of the vehicle.
@AraCarrano
@AraCarrano Час назад
This is what BMW settled on, after seatheatergate
@IllMakeUSquirtle
@IllMakeUSquirtle 3 часа назад
I watch most videos at 2x speed to get through the meat of it quick. Rossmann at 1x is faster than that XD
@kipper2k
@kipper2k 2 часа назад
i have to put headphones on, wifey hates it when i run at 2x speed
@TubeSilva
@TubeSilva 19 минут назад
Keep up the good fight, Louis. We need to get our lawmakers on board to stop this madness!
@M00NM0NEY
@M00NM0NEY 3 часа назад
Mazda could have reached out to the individual and………. Nah DMCA takedown!!! Corporation greed don’t tell Mazda how to make a better product?! Subscription service for everyone!
@B.D.TRX4
@B.D.TRX4 2 часа назад
Part of the reason why Mazda charges for this service is because it's working off of a Celluar network ( AT&T). And AT&T isn't going to do THIS for free. And Mazda doesn't own its own Celluar networks. They use Celluar networks for wider coverage and the ability to lock or unlock or start your car from anywhere.. VS only having the range of a keyfob. But then also the MAZDA app also tells you your amount of fuel left in the car, the status of the car over all ( at least in my CX-9 it does) as well as even reporting any Error code or in my case Low oil level..
@TimesandGens
@TimesandGens 2 часа назад
Louis is the God of Common Sense!
@nolongeramused8135
@nolongeramused8135 2 часа назад
This is exactly why I'm keeping my 2002 vehicle - I f***ing OWN it. I'll consider getting a new car when this sort of BS stops.
@misterx420
@misterx420 2 часа назад
I wonder how long it will be until they make it illegal to drive a car older than a certain date. (I drive a 2001 Corolla mind you.)
@tobyzilla2.074
@tobyzilla2.074 2 часа назад
Same with me my car is a 2006
@nolongeramused8135
@nolongeramused8135 Час назад
@@misterx420 I think they'll have a hard time getting that legislation passed. Which is why they'll try to force it via bureaucratic regulation or executive order.....
@petermetro4686
@petermetro4686 Час назад
@@misterx420 give it another 10 years, with more connected cars on the road the inability to support legacy software will brick the vehicle. Like now, either a security risk or hardware incompatibility won;t let you load apps on your phone or computer. Eventually you'll all be forced to bring your car to the dealer as private shops won't have the proper digital keys to access it. But wait ! We won't need to own a vehicle !With your robo taxi subscription service starting out with a free trail offer..............
@crash0verryde857
@crash0verryde857 3 часа назад
The best way to handle things like this is DONT BUY IT. Unfortunately people still will. 🤷‍♂️ cant convince everyone
@stanshelton4592
@stanshelton4592 2 часа назад
Its going to be a cold day in hell before I buy one.
@akshonclip
@akshonclip 2 часа назад
Mercedes doesn’t even put a remote start button on the keyfob. You are stuck using their crappy paid subscription if you need remote start. There are no aftermarket options because of the security level of the ECU.
@TerrorSyxke
@TerrorSyxke 3 часа назад
Reject car with screen that rusts and breaks down within 10 years, buy car that is proven to last like a Honda Civic from the 2000s
@stillnobuddy
@stillnobuddy 3 часа назад
Mine's an 04, manual everything - analog af. : ) love the ole girl!
@TerrorSyxke
@TerrorSyxke 3 часа назад
@@stillnobuddy amazing!!!
@kunka592
@kunka592 2 часа назад
You should be spraying under your car with some oil product unless you live in a desert and your car sees no moisture. Mazdas are reliable otherwise, definitely compared to most other brands, close to Toyota/Lexus though those surely rust less. Mazdas are probably more reliable than Hondas at this point. Just a few examples are Honda engines diluting the engine oil with gasoline over time and using CVT transmissions which Mazda never even bothered with, thankfully.
@mgrossklaus5186
@mgrossklaus5186 2 часа назад
I wish I could learn to do those things, I'm too old and too much of a dummy to learn now. But oh boy do I hope you guys get a win in this fight
@ghostofdre
@ghostofdre 3 часа назад
Mazda include a free bottle of blinker fluid with every subscription.
@RobertLaneTech
@RobertLaneTech 2 часа назад
Does it say 'KY' 😂
@jceggbert5
@jceggbert5 12 минут назад
I'm going to defend them a little bit. I bought a 2022 Hyundai. It came with a 3-year trial of BlueLink. BlueLink is the cellular part of the vehicle that allows onstar-like auto 911 during a crash, remote diagnostics with the app, and the ability to unlock and start the car from anywhere with my phone. When that trial ends next year, the cellular features go away, but nothing on my fob stops working, including keyless entry and remote start (via fob). I fully understand the need to pay for cellular connectivity after a certain period. 3 years is also the length of time of free maintenance (oil change, filters, etc.). I won't miss the features and I won't pay for BlueLink. I expect that Mazda is doing the same thing - disabling free cell connectivity after 3 years.
@azuproduces
@azuproduces 3 часа назад
corporations suck
@xvdifug
@xvdifug 3 часа назад
Louis, If I ever win the lottery (the big $ one).............I would like to provide you with UNLIMITED funding for your legal endeavors and other hobbies, like fishies. Going to the gas station after work to get some PBall tickets. This is not BS, I mean it. Hopefully I'll be contacting you someday.
@GertvandenBerg
@GertvandenBerg 3 часа назад
Stuff like this makes me feel better spending large amounts fixing my 2004 car instead of replacing it with something new... (VW also stopped selling manual transmissions in most cars, likely a planned obsolescence move - DSG / automatic gearboxes rarely last 20 - 40 years and are much more expensive to maintain / fix)
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