Mazda CX-5 NA vs CX-9 2.5 turbo transmission. Comparing the actual differences between the NA and Turbo Mazda Skyactiv Drive transmissions. Same basic design between the two, turbo is made to be quite a bit stronger.
@@21mazda3turbo3 wow that is higher than I thought. Lots of knowledge being dropped here 🙂 thanks. I ask because I put a 3600 stall converter on my LS1 Trans Am and it really woke the car up. But that was a different age. Also before you replied I edited this comment because I found your other video about the torque converter and asked it there instead.
Got any tips for someone struggling to mate an engine and trans? Rebuilt block with new head after cracking my original head (failed T-stat) and the crank spins, the torque converter spins, but i put them together, and its locked. 10 days of trying, no luck. Both are pulled from the car at the moment for another attempt outside of the car.
I know some people have had good luck with it, and I have been messaged by some people who have not. The NA trans was not designed for that amount of power and is the reason why the turbo trans is significantly upgraded.
Nice video. It’s neat to see Mazda beefed the transmissions up to handle the extra torque of the turbo cars. Question… did Mazda beef up the turbo motors too?
Yes, the turbo engines are strengthened in most areas and share very little in common with the NA cars. I may have the opportunity to do a similar comparison video in the future.
Thanks for the video! Incredible details!! So impossible bolt on transmission from the turbo to the non turbo car. Any options for enhance non turbo transmission?
@user-gh8ks7xg9b not a lot can be done. The converter company I deal with is confident the converter they offer for the NA trans will handle ~400hp. The rest of the trans I don't feel is up to that amount of power and have good longevity. I've got some feelers out there for some upgraded clutches, but TCM access is what is really needed to increase holding power.
Thanks for the video. Turbo is much beefier. Reminds me of the CX-9 AWA6-EL. More planets for the heaviest vehicle. Can you shed some light on the various names? I'm seeing FW6A-EL and FW6AX-EL, and GW6A-EL and GW6AX-EL. Supposedly the X versions are AWD but then I'm seeing non X versions listed for AWD on auction sites. I'm guessing the G version is a newer model than the F version?
X will denote that it is AWD. There are 4 major versions. CW6AEL, ET6AEL and EV6AEL, FW6AEL and GW6AEL. The FW and GW were launched at the same time, GW originally came on the 2.2D engines in the CX-5, 6 and 3. The higher the first letter the higher designed torque capacity of the unit. The CW are used in the 2, and vehicles that use a 1.5L. ET and EV are used in some CX-3 and 4th gen 3, CX-30. FW are used in various models. GW are only used on all the 2.5T and 2.2D vehicles.
@@21mazda3turbo3 THANK YOU!!! I haven't seen that information anywhere else. I really appreciate it. I'm thinking about selling my 3.7L Mazda6 and getting an AWD 2.5T Mazda3. I like to learn what swaps and what the strengths are of the various powertrain components. The Mazda3 looks really promising.
I really like my 3 2.5t. The interchangeability is actually not easy to do between turbo and non. The blocks are different with different bellhousing shapes. The turbo trans is heavy duty and I have not seen one fail yet. The cores that I've picked up were actually hard to get because there just are not many out there in junkyards. @@button-puncher
@@21mazda3turbo3 OK, so that's why I'm not seeing them. Also good to know that they aren't failing. I'd want a spare on hand if/when CS comes out with an upgraded turbo. Plus then I could pull the diff and see if I could have an LSD made. For interchangeability, I'm looking for things like if the larger cars have beefier components. Have to wait and see what people start breaking. The Mazda 3 2.5T is still relatively new.
The only differences between the bigger cars and the 3 turbo trans is the case is modified to fit the smaller car and the final drive components(ring gear and counter gear are different, diff is the same), clutches, planets, torque converter, etc are all the same parts. @@button-puncher
