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I picked up my Speed 3 from the dealership that was dealer cared for until it was turned in at 100k miles. Full work history on it and everything. Charged me 13k with a 36k mile repair warranty. I pay nothing on anything broken in that period. It’s bone stock too, which is a gem.
@@1970borntorun depends on which gen, personally gen 1 is a touch high, gen 2 is the right price point stock, I'd expect 18K$ for a 2013 tech package GT 30K miles ( not KM ) from a dealer.
I'm at the beginning of the video so this may be mentioned. For the Gen1 fellas like myself, these are the points of pain for me that I wish I knew about before buying. Oil cooler replaced, VVT done, AC compressor replaced, carbon cleaned recently, compression test I had to rebuild the motor from scratch a few miles after I bought it. Jumped time and mangled the valves. now my oil cooler has given up and mixed oil in my coolant. it never ends but this platform, coming from a VW guy, IS SO MUCH FUN AND WORTH THE PAIN
I own both a gen 1 and gen 2. And honestly your right on all that. I made a mistake when I bought my gen 2 and it had a bad turbo and vvt problem. Now there both running strong. And I can honestly say. My favorite car is the speed 3. By far. And Iv owned a evo and a wrx before. And i prefer the speed 3. There’s just somthing about them there special 😀
One thing I'd also look for is if there's any transmission fluid leaking out of the shift pivot shaft. That means the shift pivot seal needs to be replaced. I learned a lot from my first gen1 purchase, which in hindsight I should've stayed away from. Compression, leakdown test, check shift pivot shaft, check history if vvt was done, check for rust, check hood for paint chips (highspeed driving). Never again.
Hey thanks so much for making this video! Looking for a Mazda 3 MPS for a second car and I know they're reliable but there are always little things to look for
Love this video cuz I have literally just bought a unicorn 🦄 Stock White 2013 speed3 250k highway kms and going to be working on it!! Watching your vids for tips , thanks man keep up the great content !
My gen1 speed has ~72k miles. Bone stock other than a Cobb exhaust and Corksport injector seals. Absolutely love it so much. Love your content super informative👌🏻👌🏻
It's all personal preference as to what a person wants to do to their car. Before actually doing some bolt on power mods, I would personally start with the bolt on modifications for preventative maintenance components, then go with the suspension setup along with wheel and tire setup to really dial in the balance of the vehicle, then power mods along with a professional tune from PD, Drama or freek. For me, I'd purchase from private sellers as well, I'd be asking for upgraded HPFP w/receipt, compression test, leak down test, smoke test, checking plugs, valve cover rattle for vvt tensioner/chain issues, a year of receipts showing oil changes for every 3-5K miles driven. Anything around 75K+ miles, the vvt as well as the turbo should've been replaced/rebuilt. If the car smokes just a bit and it's fairly transparent at idle at the exhaust and it's straight piped that's a norm, but if it's catted from the dp to exhaust and smoking at idle or cruising ( depending on blueish tint or white smoke ), chances are the PCV/turbo seals/head gasket needs replacing and at the same time might as well do a diamond PCV plate to future proof for a DCC VTA setup, and Chris Wards K04 rebuilt billet internals turbo. Gen1 I'd look into doing a spin-on filter conversion. If RMM, PMM and TMM ( motor mounts ) are OE, chances are they'll go soon after just the 100K+ mile mark, might as well do a set of Damond mounts or personal preference on motor mounts like Cobb, Corksport, SURE, Megan Racing and others alike that are machined billet aluminum. At this point if everything feels great and you don't need any power mods ( the car is already 268HP ), the vehicle is practically unmolested besides preventative bolt on maintenance as well as installing an accessport to monitor important numbers. The person is good to go on mods/vehicle purchase. The speed3/6 is fading away with all the zzb kids pushing the car, breaking it and selling it as runs good, drives good with eBay replacement parts only to get hosed by repairs a few thousand miles down the line or accidents happen and people are doing full part outs because parting out costs more than selling a blown car as a whole depending on the price of mods that were put in to begin with. Correct, mods don't raise value, but the ludicrous thinking of the speed community is parting out fully on a blown speed which is ass backwards to me so the actual thinking of preventative mods doesn't necessarily "raise the value" of the car but keeps it well normalized so the buyer doesn't really overpay on a vehicle that already has bolt ONS they'd think about doing. Unlike the ford FiST/FoST community, this vehicles price point is up to the private sellers averaging the prices because dealers will do 70% Markup from KBB private values. Depends on maintenance and user mods and condition of vehicle too. Gen1 100K miles 6-10K. Gen2 100K miles 9-15K. This is my personal thoughts of recommended prices. Finding a unmolested unicorn speed will start to cost just as much as a decked out 3 because of the rarity and people won't realize that until they see outrageous prices and be toxic about that's too expensive, seller smoking crack, etc.
You should go UK and import them to us they are like £3000-6000 Gen 1 and 2 it's because our dumb gov tax these cars yearly on co2 commission. About £500 on gen 1 and £350 on gen 2 That's why it's cheaper here
Receipts? Pah.. Good luck with that. Besides, all that receipt will tell you is when they purchased the oil, not when they actually changed it. Thats alot of paperwork to keep around. IF i ever plan to do any mods, I'll likely just keep a single sheet (like a spreadsheet) listing whats been changed, and the date & millage it was changed. But so far, i havent done anything to mine, and really dont plan to. I *may* do the HPFP at some point, which ill document, but that'll likely be it. I actually like mine as stock.
GEN 1 owner here heavily modded had mine since 2008 I will hold on to this car as long as i can . It's super realiable and make's 397 whp and I beat on her all the time . These motors are very stout and will last you a long time I run 22lbs on 93 and 25lbs on e85 on my BNRS3 still on my stock block now on 6 years including the original clutch .
Excellent tips buddy. First Gen. owner here, and definitely not selling mine till she totally dies. Had it for 13 years, and super reliable for me at least, as well as well maintained with all the maintenance history😇👍 only mods done to it were just aesthetic 👍
Hella overpriced, but maintain and preventative maintenance+future proofing mods will have the car keep essentially 65% of it's value. Read up on everything you can soz you won't go ZZB, have fun with the car!
@@iStryka of course of course unlike most people who want a speed I actually do my research and not one of the people who want to push 430+ hp without taking proper steps ya get me!
Thanks man! And will definitely will make a video about that now that you say that. Thanks for the idea, so you’ll have to wait for those answers from my opinion. 😅😁
Confirming oil change is huge. I have a friend who has had a MB roadster for maybe seven years and has never changed the oil. She doesn't drive it much is the excuse. I'm thinking about a Speed 3 and will take note. Are they all this low to the ground?
I bought a 2011 Mazda3 2.5... automatic/manual option. 83k miles stock.... I replaceD the back passenger sway bar and now my gas gauge is acting wonky. If it's not full it thinks it's empty... Then corrects itself. Outside of that I love driving the car. It has about 120k on it now... I've driven across the country twice... Mostly highway miles. Engine sounds great. But way over priced by the time I pay it off. But I had zero credit... At a dealership. In Oregon. Moving to Indiana saved me over $100 on insurance for the same plan.
If the car has an aftermarket hpfp best believe it has been ran thru like crazy. Mine is lowered on some rims and that all, engine is 100% stock and running better than my newer car. Is plenty fast from stock.
in the gen 1s you have to remove the bumper to get to the headlights, so dont be alarmed by a slight misfit. I had an issue where a ballast kept burning out and I had to take it off and put it back on three times in one week in the winter, and those clips are fragile... no mods on my car, just removed bumper for headlights on a 11 year old car. Just a heads up
Should I buy a first gen it only has a intake and exhaust but I know the intake can cause problems without the high pressure fuel pump should I get it or nah
Should've watched this sooner lol. I just bought a Mazdaspeed 3. It has full bolt ons. Like chatted downpipe, catback exhaust, intake, rmm, upgraded top mount intercooler and so on. I was planning on taking apart of hpfp to take a look to make sure it has the internals on it but it looks like someone has done it because I can see their tool marks. I'm going to tear it apart regardless to just have that piece of mind. I don't mind it being modded, if something goes wrong I can always fix it at work. It's just now I have nothing to do on it lol.
are you actually averaging 10.7L/100km?? that's what i average in my 2017 3 w the 2.5. i would gladly take an extra 80hp + manual transmission for the same fuel economy. but the speed3s need >91 octane right?
I’m looking at one this girl is selling that she’s had for like 10+ years it’s fully bone stock and it’s reasonably pretty clean too however the ks are right up their 260000 kms she stated in her description that most of it is all highway mileage should I go for it? 😅
Your my twin lol I bought a gen 1 drove it and fell in love didn’t check jack shit and it took a crap on me lol, luckily I got rid of it now I have a Gen2
okay so i bought my ms3 when i was looking for a mini copper s/jcw but i saw a ms3 for 7,800 and it looked clean and i texted the guy and he said sum one was looking at it but they didnt buy it cuz it was too fast he said and i went and it was modified but nicely and i bought it and i do know the owner and i got it for 7,5 with 112k miles motors clean i opened it and now its big turbo :)
"door dings are a reason to walk away" your a nut job (im smiling) ...if thats a reason to walk away you should consider my bone stock 2008.5 speed3 with 89k and is on its 3rd set of tires.. that's right 3 sets only. your advice is good to a point. My advice would be to find a speed with as many dings in the door as possible. Likely it is in a garage with a family car and doesn't see much use. other than dings from moms car from the kids. I guess i see things differently than you.
I just found a 1st gen ms3 with only 70k miles on it at a used dealership and they want 8,995 for it. I think I can trade in my current car to help with that and then i’ll try to work a bunch this summer to help pay for it. Any advice on buying? like paying for it? Anything I should know that’s not in the video?
Can't tell unless you open the fuel pump but upgrade HPFP, if dealer has garage I'd ask for a compression, leak down and smoke test to validate healthy engine and no vacuum leaks, 180PSI across all 4 cylinders, 10% within range of each other. No stuttering at wide open throttle from 3kRPM going into full boost. Check idle smoke at exhaust, if it's almost fully transparent white and disappearing quickly you're okay, if it's blue, oils burning somehow, if you can't see through it, best believe head gasket is done, turbo seals are done or the PCV needs replacing. Other than that maintenance is key and the car can last you 200K miles.
Make sure they have the receipt/papers on engine being replaced. Besides that I believe the gen 2 3s fixed the problems that the mzr engine had in the gen 1 and ms6.
I've wanted a speed3 forever and I just got a trade offer for my gti but the speed3 has 150k miles and my gti is at 110k is that worth it or is the car about done?
I see one at a dealership with one owner looks completely stock at 244kms it also had one owner who was a lady so I’m hoping I can grab this car soon 😭
I'm say I got lucky on mine 09 speed it had 75,237 miles on it and I got it for 8,000 from a small dealership it had full Exhaust turbo smart blow off Valve cobb intake it had the top mount Intercooler on it
@@jjms3 yea what is funny is I was looking for a speed6 but when I call the dealership they sold it like 1 day before I called and they told me they have a speed3 here if I want to look at that and I seen it and I got
I see too many guys buying a speed with a bunch of mods that they have no idea about lol. Better to buy stock if you’re new to the platform and haven’t done your research properly.
@@bradake MS3's only come in manual. Buying an unmolested car means you get to choose your own path and upgrades or not do anything to it besides upgraded HPFP because once the car is rare AF and gone, it'll be private sellers marking up big time. Supply and Demand at it's best.
