MC12 Designer Analyses The Maserati MC20! 

lol holy shit! Also I noticed the Dave Draper photo in the background right away in this vid, has that been here the whole time and I never noticed?

@@lotusesprit5 Yes. Sad Dave passed away yesterday, what a great human being! 😢👍💪

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With some Moroccan in the mix.

With some Moroccan in the mix.

Mr. Worldwide

American-Spanish to be precise

Frank for the next James bond! And instead of shooting people and womanising, he could just hang out at flash bars, drink expensive whisky, smoke cigars, drive the most amazing cars, outsmart the bad guy and then home in time for tea. :) I'd watch.

I wish that designer would watch this video

Boomerangs by definition should always come back.

Exactly! Was thinking bout getting a 4200 cambiocorsa recently and found out bout the 3200 taillights damn the boomerangs were so cool

Yeah, they are some of the best lights ever fitted to a production car. Really wish that Maserati internal rivalry didn’t escalate to that. Cause that design could’ve come into this car. The new ones reminded me more of the new Alpine A110 than squashed GT lights but either way, it’s bad

I read in CAR Magazine back in the day that they were changed due to US regulation though? So what was the actual intent for the change then?

Glad you enjoyed

Same here

GOD DAMN IT WRITE THAT DOWN LUIGI

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they should

no, they are to arrogant to listen to other peropls opinions, if not ,the interior design wouldnt have been be so bad

@5putput .... if u think that interior is acceptable then I got nothing to say🥱, if u have no idea what is considered good interior, just compare this car with other cars of similar price range. I’m not saying Italian can’t design, I’m saying Maserati can’t design interior, don’t get it twisted

Well... It's a boomerang isn't it?

he ruined car design lmao... probably one reason maserati is on the back foot ^^

I remember asking to myself when the new version has been realsed "what the hell went through the head of the designers, where are the tail lights?"... Some people online were thinking it was for US regulation compliancy as Maserati were planning to expend their markets... I can't believe it was just a mamanagement move.

@@manuelight ah yes....Giorgetto Giugiaro is a bad designer. Alright.

I agree, all the big spoilers and huge holes in the hood make the car look like it‘s trying too hard.

I couldn't agree more. I think that the design of most of the current crop of super cars are too "busy", with far too much going on. I love the pure, understated simplicity of this car in both its look and choice of drivetrain. It's a refreshing change. But hey, I'm a less is more kinda guy.

I would love to hear his opinion on the modern Mazda (concept)

Me to! Especially Mazda and some of the classical 90s cars

@@abishekparthipan8771 the Mazda RX Concept is 10/10. Mazda design has always been tops in Japan. Lexus LC 500 is another show stopper. As far as classic JDM, there are many that are masterpiece works.

Ahhhh.....just the MENTION of the 0ne-77 stirs emotions within me!

Thank YOU Angel, it’s always great to read your very thorough comments, very much appreciated! 💥👍

@@FrankStephensondesign What brand is the model on your desk😂

@@FrankStephensondesign Autoart？🤔

Jesko is more interesting since there are 2 versions! Regera is based on the old models...

@@einautofan6685 Sounds good too!

I want it to see it too, but mostly i interesting with the gemera design, i hope frank make a video about that car

That’s really great to hear Joey, thanks!

W220 is still holding the title, imo. Economic health eventually affects design and manufacturing, in Germany especially. Where cutting costs on dash design with tablets, plastic molding changes enough to call it a generation, and perhaps some code updates, is what the new S-Class has become, truly disappointing. But then again, baseless and authoritarian regulatory enforcement on "green" stuff also pressures manufacturers to do wacky stuff.

And Audi rs7

It's designed for China. That's about it.

@Frank Stephenson Tempting request, especially considering your experience, I wonder if you've also worked on commercial vehicles and how you see Mercedes' approach.

That's exactly my thoughts. And derivative of the F1 as well, not smart to smash others when your own glass roof is that large, is it?

I feel the MC20 just looks like any other average supercar. Don't get me wrong, it looks good; but compared to something like the design language of the MC12, the MC20 just fades into the background.

@@nebroskitheraut6705 yes, I get what you're saying. There's nothing special about the design, it's not really out there with brave new ideas. In my opinion it just does, what it does very well and it all blends in together nicely.

I totally agree. Beauty is entirely subjective, but without scrutiny I fell in love with the MC20 in another video. Everything seemed so balanced: the accents, the color contrast with the trim, the shape, the dimensions. Just gorgeous!

@@imbluz Absolutely. This car doesn't leave your mind.

Thank you!! 😁

Italianità, not italianitá.

you mean 🤌🏼🤌🏼

Enzo Ferrari, close enough to a Borgia... ahahah

I agree with him 100% . In this segment, a car needs to be "hate it or love it". You can't play it safe. Everyone stopped talking about this car 15 minutes after it was launched because it was just so forgettable.

There needs to be a warning on the video!

Well, it is.

@@finalpharoah1 Interesting perspective. I’ve never think like that before. Maybe that’s why people forgets about me all the time. 😂

Understated... for a 1000hp car. .... Crap idea

@@dombower to each their own. It's not like there's a shortage of more bombastic super/hypercars.

Same. I like designs that are bonkers, but for myself, I like.... simple

Its nice, but forgettable. The front is not sharp enough. I've already forgotten about it.

A pleasure Kyle, thanks!

Don’t think you need to give a history lesson to the guy who designed the mc12 lmao

@@BugOnAChip You on the other hand need reading comprehension lessons. The fact he designed the MC12 doesn't mean he understands the purpose of the MC20 he did not design.

Frank shouldn't keep referring to the MC12 as the ultimate Maserati. I don't think that design is aging well. To me it comes off as fussy and boy-racer. It is mostly show and not that much go! Who needs to drag around a spoiler good for 200 mph when most of your driving is 50 mph from stop light to stop light? MC20 looks better even standing still...

The V6 is Maserati's own built motor in house. Not another Ferrari hand me down thats capable of breaking at some point. So that should at least be a plus.

lol Haas. That was a fanthaastic pun.

@@aydankhaliq2967 it actually wasn't, I just misspelled it, but I'll just pretend I did mean it as one lol!

@@carsmusicandclothing7066 that V6 is Alfa’s V6 given they got a late development 8C and turned it into what we have now, the powertrain is the Ferrari derived V6 is the Giulia and Stelvio

Grazie mille Jedi!

Glad you enjoy it!

Exactly. 😀 😁 😀

every supercar "nowadays" looks like this, what are you on about?

The point is that it doesn't have characteristics of historical Maseratis. He clearly stated that it is a beautiful car, just not a great design for a Maserati. In fact it looks generic, just like what happened with the McLaren MP4-12C. If you take the Maserati badge out of this car and put the McLaren badge on it, sure no one can argue with that. This car could hug any badge you put on it without being really great with anyone of them, just because the fact is it is too generic. That is not to say it is ugly. Far from it, it is beautiful but not unique enough. Again, generic.

You know from some angle it's overdesigned af. I mean the front face is just shouting out "Look how mordern and swedish I've become!" Not to mention those doors.... Oh god why they put butterfly doors on something that looks like an EV?

I think the MC20 is perfectly balanced and even. It's not too flashy, but still simply beautiful. I challenge anyone to find a German, English or American car that's as beautiful as this. As a designer, he's being too analytical. With this type of close scrutiny how can any car be perfect?

Very cool!

Welcome and thanks!

Thank you!

I missed MC12 approaching the doll the first time watching, brilliant! 🤣

Halloween doll

The Trump impression at 6:28 was funny too 😂

@@RotchildFrancoisJr I didn't even catch that holy crap that's good

Ok so but it is safe for baby's head to be GRATED

Thanks H! 💥👍

exactly what I thought 😂

The best drama. Youve never seen drama like this before. Absolutely tremendous, really. Everyone is saying it.

Good question!

Glad you enjoyed!

No.

Thanks for the reply! Seems like a weird choice from Maserati, but I guess they wanted something completely new

@@generalguilmon6719 See also: "hipsters that will make the car look Japanese....like pretty-much everything else on the roads these days."

IKR what a world where they decide to brag about that

ikr, most new german cars have less than 0.30 with some mercedes models even the cheapest ones like A class having 0.22 !

@@dominicancheif117 what i meant by that is that my fiesta is a brick.... sport cars usually have a higher cw because they create downforce, therefore drag but 0.38 is very high

The 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee had a cd of .37, for comparison. LuLz

Perfromance cars don't have very good C_d values. Some of the vehicles with the worse C_d values are F1 cars f.e. where C_d values are ~ 0.7. In performance cars you want to reduce lift (push the car down onto the road to improve the load on the wheels, high speed stability and medium to high-speed cornering). The cost of reducing lift is drag because whatever manipulates airflow causes drag fprces as well. Usually a good design has a high aerodynamic efficiency ( | C_L | / C_D) and specifically flat underbodies and larger diffusors are favorable to large wings as there reduce lift at "lower drag costs" but airflow over a rear wing is much easier to understand and manipulate as the air is relaitvely undisturbed so far. Spoiler like on the C7 Corvette with the Z07 package are probably least efficient in that regard but if you have enough HP and or travel at low speeds it might not matter (in the short term).

I second that. very strong retro-styled image. I'm so surprised it was made by a chinese company

Saw it for real at our Airport! A beautiful car! Design inspired by late 60s racecars! Prototype got a Ferrari V12, the production cars will only have a V8... Ares Design is a nice carmaker too! They are doing a "new" Miura!😉

@@vsm1456 They are belonging to Apollo! Owned by a Hong Kong Investment group, based in Germany, parts and design coming from MAT!😉

@@einautofan6685 why is the V12 not going in the production car?

@@issagavage3528 I guess because of production costs. They want to build more than 10 cars..., not like the Apollo IE!😉

It's an enlarged Alfa Romeo 4C so its design was compromised from the start

@@KumRuzvalt93 you don't understand. The Alfa Romeo 4C was made by Maserati too. The MC20 is based on its chassis.

@@nessuno5403 you clearly don't know anything about this car.. Alfa Romeo 4C was produced at Maserati Ciro Menotti Plant in Modena, but that doesn't mean MC20 is based on its chassis. In fact, MC20 has a completely new carbon tub that actually is 3 times larger than the Alfas. All the architechture is completely different from the 4C, starting from the suspension layout, engine position and door opening. Please review your sources of information before being childish and arrogant in the comments.

@@papposupercarwatcher you need to learn English. I did not say it's the 4C platform. I said "enlarged", which you confirm. It is an evolution whose tub is made near Naples by TTA Adler as was that of the 4C. Moreover, MC20 was meant to be a new hybrid Alfa supercar 6C/8C. You need to stop accepting PR spin superficially.

Hi Frank. Love the channel and the analysis. Lots of fun. The original NSX is close to my heart. Would love to get your analysis on the successor. The NC1.

Thanks!