What's bad is that these regulations will mostly hurt the companies that actually care about the product. Companies that specialize in pipe tobacco, those who will spend hours crafting great blends, will get hit the hardest while cigarette and "gas station" cigar manufactures will take the hit and be just fine.
Whatever is out there is it. They already finished tinning everything they had in stock. It's all done. The doors have been closed. Thank you government for destroying yet another business 😠 But lets give the McNiels a huge round of applause and thanks for the many years and hard work they have put into their product. Sweet smokes amigo 😎
Very Sad day for Virginia lovers! McClelland will be missed greatly. Not all news is good news. A moment of silence for all of our great favorite McClelland blends.
Hi John. I was holding back my lamentation because I didn't want to sound like a fluff, but truth be know, I'm devastated. I'm personally not much of a Virginia smoker, but Frog Morton Cellar was (and is) my all-time favorite blend. There is not another blend that can touch that blend in my opinion. The closest would be a Dunhill English, and you know they have stopped producing as well. I'm sorry, brother.
Anthony Adams Sorry for you as well. McClellands 5100 Red Cake was my favorite blend. They have been out for a while. So I have been trying to find something similar. I have been smoking Sutliffs Red Ribbon very close but not the same. But am getting used to it. You may want to try GL Pease they have a lot of Latakia blends to choose from. Never acquired a taste for the Latakia. Good luck finding something you truly enjoy! May all your smokes be dry and cool.
I literally just came home yesterday with my first ever Frog Morton since I am just starting out in pipes. I LOVED it and now I see this. I hate the FDA interfering with the hobbies I enjoy.
The FDA is going after cigar manufacturers much more than pipe tobacco concerns. The real problem with the pipe tobacco industry is that Congress has cut the agricultural subsidies and ended price supports for tobacco farmers making farming unprofitable or barely profitable and forcing farmers to quit.
@@stockscalper cause cigar companies are not exactly a part of the big tobacco that can afford lobbying. They only go after the people that cannot afford to lobby.
hey, just ordered my first pipe and searching youtube tutorials i found your channel and i have to say its the best, thanks for all the informative videos i know a LOT about pipe smoking now and i havent received my first one yet haha, greetings from Uruguay
The concern is for all the men and women that lost their jobs, I hope the best for you all! there will always be tobacco but a good job is hard to find! best of luck for you folks.
Matt, that is a side of it that I didn't even think about. Thank you for bringing that depth to the conversation; so important. I live in North Carolina, which has a tobacco-rich history. I've battled with cigarettes for years, and finally found the love of pipe tobaccos and now have to stress about their demise.
Matt Shaw yes that dimension also has to be kept in mind. This affects workers as much as consumers. Smoking for me is a pleasure and an interest, but for some it is their livelihood. The more pressure the industry faces, the harder it will be for those folks to redeploy and retrain into alternative work. Those still in work will be feeling under threat and wondering if they're next. We the community have a responsibility towards them as well.
I thought of that too. I have met the Mcneils at a pipe show before and they are great people. Just knowing that a Small American business has to close its doors due to the governments demands makes me upset. The little guy always gets F'd over
Just wanted to let you know you have taken my pipe experience to a new level. Just binged watched your channel and found a wealth of info. I ordered a savinelli porto servo 122 and when it came in I was real happy. I love my bull dogs but this is a game changer. Much lighter and bigger bowl. A all day smoke for me.
Dunhill and McClelland make my favorite blends. I have 15 tins of Dunhill Nightcap but I don’t even want to smoke it if I can’t replace it. Balkan Beauty is my absolute favorite blend, I only have 2 tins of it and no more of it can be bought. This is really sad!
Yeah, not to sound like a drama queen, but I am absolutely devastated by this news. I love Frog Morton Cellar so much that it is almost like a miracle medication for my stress levels. God I hope these pipe tobacco companies stop going out of business! I don't know if it is true or not, but one of my local tobacconists told me that cigarette companies are putting these pipe tobacco companies out. Again, that is one person's claim, so take it with a grain of salt. But, she is in the industry so she could possibly be correct.
I smoke pipes since a year ago. I´ve just tried a few blends from them really appreciating them, Virginias and Orientals specially, and I arrived to the conclusion that I should buy mostly McClellands, and then this news. I was shocked wishing it was a bad joke. I guess I´ll have to move on and enjoy other blend while they are still available. Tobacco is the fragile part of this hobby/art. Sorry my English writing I´m from Argentina, Spanish native speaker. Greetings
Gonzalo, never mind that your English isn't perfect, it's great, and besides many of us can't even speak two different languages. As far as I am concerned, you are a fellow pipe smoker and brethren. I am disappointed by this news as well. I hope you (and I) are able to find other decent tobaccos to smoke.
Gonzalo Rodriguez Your English is good, don't worry too much about it. Sad to see McClelland go but I think you may like some of Cornell & Diehl and G.L. Pease blends. I really enjoy Black Frigate (english oriental) and Virginia Cream (aromatic)
I’m 60 and just started smoking pipes 6 months ago after smoking cigars for many years. Your videos helped me immensely and FM quickly became my go to blend. Funny how the government wants everyone smoking marijuana but hates tobacco. Look forward to all your videos. Thanks
Muttonchop, as I’ve mentioned in the comments in another video, I’m 28 and just started getting into pipe smoking a few months ago. I’ve been buying as much McC as I could. I have about 10 tins currently. I’ll try and buy some more in the coming months and I’ll probably have enough to last me several years but I know in time, I’ll run out. It’s sad to see the state in where the premium tobacco industry is headed and how general society links it to cover smoking. Hopefully, the others don’t disappear..
maui dantuono - That’s great, I’m sad that they are gone, but after 40 years I bet there is a smidge of relief that they are able to retire, I wish them all the best. 👍👍👍
Picked up 10 500g tins of various McClelland blends and 3 50g tins today at my local shop, I don't think word has spread fast yet, but i already see them doubled, tripled or quadrupled in price already on eBay. Go searching a stock up wherever you find it! 4 of the 10 were Bombay Court blend, so I'm congratulating myself on the victory by smoking that one tin. Gotta give you credit for bringing my attention to this crisis! Thanks!
Je partage totalement vos pensées et regrets. Frog morton a été un coup de foudre! Découvert alors que je fumais la pipe depuis une année, je ne cesse de rechercher ce gout oncteux et raffiné qu'aucun autre tabac ne me propose. Il ne m'en reste qu'une boite que je garde pour la fin de ma vie. Suite à l'arret prématuré de Frog Morton, j'avais apprécié un autre tabac dont j'ai acheté 1kg d'emblée de peur de ne plus le trouver! ...Mais ce n'est et ne sera jamais mon Frog Morton floating log disparu.😢
Chris, what worries me, if another couple major tobacco companies decide to close up shop, the price of tobacco will go thru the roof. You have a real passion for all things relating to Pipes and Tobacco’s and it shows. I am proud to be one of your subscribers!
Well-said, Chris. Maybe we need to begin a non-profit tobacco clearinghouse that we can will our cellar contents to that is to be made accessible to younger pipe smokers for a nominal fee. As usual, I've learned something new and had the pleasure of visiting you. --Todd
I just got to try Mclelland for the first time (my favorite b&ma's manager gave me about 2 bowls of easy street and 1928 from his cellar) and it breaks my heart...in the almost 2 years ive been pipe smoking...this is the smoothest nicest quality tobacco ive ever had
Very,very sad news.I only discovered the glorious Mc Clelland virginias,grand orientals and more,two years ago.And suddenly all is over.My Holy grails finished by the hand of New Inquisition.The Balkan Sobranie was a battle lost but this is a war lost.Only remains hate and blaming myself for not ordering more tins of this wonderful brand,rest in peace.Let´s enjoy the cellar and never ever forget or forgive the people that killed Mc Clelland.Trully this is a black day for the pipe community.At less on this side of the pond we have learned from you,americans,the healthy habit of cellaring.Greetings,I don´t know if this word is appropiated today,from Spain.Take care,my friend.
Production on Dunhill blends has already stopped. Stocks will last till the end of the year, so if you like one of these cellar as much as you can afford.
I bought a lot of Dunhill tins maybe six years ago when there were sales...Dunhill was unavailable in the early 2000's for about 3 yrs...then came back...then gone...Now back through Peterson. We'll see what the future brings.
This is honestly terrible news. It makes me wonder what are he regulations for growing tobacco privately... Muttnchop... a new video perhaps? Regulations on privately growing tobacco? I will be sure to stock up as much as I can, despite my youthful age of 21. Muttnchop, could you sometime make a video of all the different types of tobacco lighters, and which ones you prefer and why? I think that would be super helpful and informative. I haven’t found one of your videos that covers that, and I apologize if I looked over it.
Here in canada i can grow as much tobacco as i want but i can't sell it i will be getting my grandpa to teach me as the government wants to do this then ill have "gifts" for everyone and if you feel like donating feel free ;) loop holes gotta love them i want to make cigars to its very calming for me to grow the plant and try the hard work might start a new trend in the pipe community we just need to buy the recipes off the guys that close their doors then make them free for everyone to see.
Well thank you very much for the replies. I truly wish all of you the very best, and that seems like a bit of an interesting loophole with growing. Say for instance, I grow a specific type of tobacco that was deemed (this would not happen) to have 2X the amount of nicotine, and greatly increases your risk of tongue cancer (again, an example). So the FDA says they don’t want that to be available to the mass market, BUT you can still GROW it for yourself and smoke it all you want? That doesn’t make a right bit of sense. Any other ideas with this?
Putting this in perspective. I am a recent entrant to this hobby, so if I started this year I would be ignorant of this brand. Saying that and taking McClelland at their word, are quality tobaccos on their way out across the board? If they couldn't get quality leaf, then who can?
That's what worries me, 1 of 2 things, or probably both things will happen, the dedicated tobacco blending houses will close up shop because they don't want to scrimp on quality, others will get whatever tobacco they can, quality or no and continue to blend substandard pipe tobacco. either way, its not good for us. :( :( :(
Muttnchop!! I will miss them for sure... That is my plan going forward hopefully the FDA won't be too bad but you just don't know... Good advice my friend take care see you soon be well
Hello Muttnchop, I would just like to thank you for sharing your knowledge. I just finished a bowl of my pipe and for the first time I did not get the taste of ash, thanks to the breathing method you taught. Your channel was decisive for me to venture into the flavors that pipe tobacco can offer. And even when I make mistakes, like smoking fast and having tongue bite, that does not discourage me because I know exactly what caused it. Maybe one day we'll meet to challenge you with my beast deck (magic) :-) . Thank you one more time.
Hey Muttnchop. Glad to read you’re well. I think a lot of us were wondering if everything was okay. Something I’ve noticed since meeting pipe smokers and watching those in the YTPC - you get attached to them. You and the other great ones become like close friends to many of us. We miss your advice, your stories and overall kindness. Looking forward to your next video. Peace.
I am just beside myself over this. They are by far my favorite company period. I didn't know about this until yesterday and i am not financially able to keep a giant cellar of tobacco. I have nothing mcclleland. I am super sad. It just sucks real bad. Something needs to be done here.
It's been said many times: Tobacco will never be cheaper or more easily available than it is now. Eventually internet sales will get cut off. Blenders will be forced to shutter businesses made unprofitable for a number of reasons. Find what you like and cellar deeply so that you can be assured to have what you enjoy (presuming it's a type of tobacco that ages well).
The bigger picture is this panic mindset that occurs when people perceive a “loss” of a “necessity”. Just wait until it’s food & water that’s running low...the you’ll see some crazies. Me? Just adapt and adjust. If I run out of baccy, it won’t kill me. I’m actually thinking of trying my hand at growing some. There’s always another way. Cheers, Mark
HoosierPiper - You are right my friend, my mind Set is this, if I can get my hands on some at normal tin prices $10.00 then I will pick some up, if not, then I will adjust and move on, pipe tobacco is not a necessity, your right, but it’s nice to have blends you like. 👍👍👍
After viewing this video I realized that i have two unopened tins of Frog Morton that I purchased about 4 or 5 years ago. One is Frog Morton Pipe Tobacco and the other is Frog Morton Cellar. I decided to put one on Ebay and start the bidding at $50 and in two days it jumped to $92. Unfortunately, Ebay deleted my listing because you apparently are not allowed to sell any tobacco on their site regardless of age or collectability.
Pretty soon we're all gonna be smoking grass clippings from the backyard, with the way things are going!! Nice job with this video, Chris! All the best!!
Wise advice. I appreciate your shared sentiment, I've taken it to heart. When I have the budget, I'm definitely going to get myself some more pipe tobacco.
New pipe smoker, have a nice long-stemmed church warden... I'm too new to really be effected, which is a good thing... but I confess a certain melancholy, I had wanted to try some Frog Morton's Cellar. I heard many good things about it. Recommend everyone hang onto their tins, will almost certainly become collector's items.
Hey, man. I love your videos, and you're an excellent speaker. You really take your time and explain your ideas very clearly. I just got into the hobby not long ago, so it looks like I'm going to miss out on trying some of these. Are there any blends that are similar to some of the McClellan or Dunhill ones? Thanks for your time.
I’m ordering tins tonight! Plus some bags of Pipeworks since Carole may retire from blending! I have 5 tins of McC’s! I gotta cellar more for my sons! I told them we could smoke together one day. Hopefully we can share the classics!
Yeah. Here I am, watching this in 2019 and I have my first ever pipe on the way... ordered. Brand new to pipe smoking. None of this rare stuff for me. I wouldn't have gotten it anyway perhaps, since I'm not in the US.... But still
@@Lycosa I haven't smoked in 6 years... Today I decided to come back to the hobby to find this. Lucky me, I have two tins of MC that I stored before taking my hiatus.
Thank you Sir for this video. I had no idea that this company was shutting down. I've only recently started trying different tobacco's but Frog Morton's in the Cellar is my favorite. I was able to purchase 5 - 100g tins which I plan to store while I work through other blends that I've yet to try. If not for your video I would have missed out. Grácias!!
Most of the time Chris I enjoy your videos but not so much this one but I do appreciate McClelland’s integrity and your honesty. Start the muttonchop ytpc blenders club? Thanks for taking the time to sit down and have a chat with us. Sincerely GW, keep your lighter full and your ember lit, Au Revoir
Scored a tin of FM Cellar about a week ago, just to try. I probably got one of the last ones from P&C, they were out of stock on all other FM flavors. No need to sit on this one, I'll crack it open and try it soon. Oh well. New pipe smoker and I haven't built up a stock of anything yet.. I guess I better get busy.
Heyyy Chris i agree with you 100% about the companies and thats what i was saying the hand writing is on the wall the FDA is trying to kill the tobacco industry. Every month im setting aside a few dollers to buy tin that i love and those id like to try. Thanks for the advice. My friend take care 😃😃😃😃😃👍👍👍👍👍 best regards peter.
McClelland was its worst enemy. They went far to big with far to many blends. They had 234+ blends. Most of which were blah, overly thick flakes and aromatics that were tasteless. Sure they had some real winners, but far to many that didn’t sell as good as they had hoped. I’m sorry to see them go but I saw this coming about five years ago. R. I. P. Side note; it’s also exceedingly hard to compete with Africa, Mexico, and South American tobacco. High quality, low price, and an abundance of it. Will C&D succumb? I sure hope not.
graycloud057 - I tend to agree, maybe if they had reduced the amount of blends they were selling to say 100, they might have survived. C&D Is backed I think by smokinpipes.com, I have been to their factory, it’s connected, and sits right behind smokingpipes, so I think they might be ok, but they aught to think about reducing blends as well. 👍👍👍
British Woods, Frog Morton, Frog Morton's Cellar, Blackwoods Flake are staples of mine. I honestly don't know what I'll replace them with once my reserves run out.
Good day, Sir. I have only recently began my pipe smoking journey, and have discovered your videos to be extremely informative, educational, and very helpful. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and opinions. The Frog Morton’s On the Town blend was highly recommended by countless smokers, as well as you. Do you suggest a comparable tobacco for me, as a newcomer, to not only enjoy, but to break in a new pipe, as you suggested in a previous video? Thank you for your time.
Hey Muttnchop, I started smoking Erik Nording's Foxhound because you recommended it in your English rotation video. I absolutely loved it. I noticed that it is no longer available anywhere and I fear this is because it was McClelland tobacco. If so I'm very sad I only have about an ounce to last me an eternity. Do you have a replacement you could recommend?
Sad news indeed. I reviewed my cellar this morning. I think I have a lifetime supply. Maybe not all my favorites but a nice and varied selection for years to come. The TAD of the summer of 2016 paid off. Take care.
Sound Dude - I am in the same situation, I have enough of my favorite blends to last me the rest of my life, I just rounded out my Cellar by purchasing 8 tins of Dunhill Elizabethan mixture, and 2 tins of Dunhill Ye olde sign. 👍👍👍
This was big wake up call for me. I had been expecting newer blends to disappear, possibly some newer companies, but I didn't see McClellan going away this soon. They make several of my favorite blends and I definitely don't have with. I hope there is a restock in the future. Sad news indeed. At any rate this event has shown me that any of the companies, even long standing ones, can go away so I need to stock up favorite blends ASAP.
I hope you heave enough time left to actually smoke all of your stock :) I'm watching your videos in the evenings last few days. Great content and a lot of interesting information to share. Thank you! McClelland here in Poland was hard to get and now I'm afraid I will never have a chance to try it. Sad news indeed.
I'm a pipe smoker from Prague and unfortunately I can get only 250g of American tobacco per person max and someone needs to bring that back from US in their luggage. Everything tobacco related sent in a post package gets stopped at the airport and gets burned or marked with like 500% tax mark up. I am a lot into English and Balkan blends, so of course McClelland was on my wishlist of tobaccos my travelling friends are slowly going through, but I guess it is too late. All I was able to do was to acquire larger amount of Dunhill Nightcap from Germany for my "cellar" and that was for the original pre-end price. I guess it's actually good that I never tasted the Latakia legends from the Frog Morton series. I would probably miss them now. But on the bright side there is still a lot I can taste and look forward to from companies like C&D, G.L. Pease, H&H, Captain Earle or Seattle Pipe Club. Btw I dunno if you have heard about German blender called Hans Wiedemann and his HU Tobacco blends, but they are awesome and (even a little spoiled) Americen pipers should definitely try them. Thanks for yet another great video and happy piping! :)
Jindřich Jinoch - Yes its a shame we have lost a jewel of a pipe tobacco, but like you commented, there is still a huge amount of tobacco to try. I will look up the tobacco blender and try to get my hands on some of their blends, thanks for the suggestion. 👍👍👍
Also it is important to note that MacNeil never trained anyone to replace him and he was never going to sell his recipes. So at some point it was all going to end. The FDA just forced them out early. Dunhill had two things going on. 1- they were off the market in 2/2007 so would have to get approved. 2- the EU put in plain packaging regs that forbid trademark logos. While the owners of Dunhill don't really care about tobacco, they are obsessive about their brand. The new EU regs are a bridge too far. So with only the USA and emerging markets left it wasn't worth the risk to pay for approval when they don't know what will happen next. My guess is that Dunhill will come back if and when the regulatory environment changes in a more positive direction.
Jeff Allenbrand - I agree, my hope is that once the regulation is in place, it may not be as bad as everyone thinks, and they will resume production. 😏😏😏
First i got to say i respect mcclelland for just closing the doors and not trying to put out product thats not up to ours or their expectation. Second here we are 5 or 6 months later after mcclelland closed their doors has anything changed in the fight against the fda? I know petitions were signed and fights were being organized but has any good news come about?
Dustin Pittman - Been looking into it, all I can discover is it looks like the testing and certification of blends has been put off until 2020, and the grandfather date was moved to 2016, other then that all is moving forward. 👍👍👍
I started stocking up in around 2014...I bought tins when they were on sale and also bulk..then I bought whole leaves and now blend my own English-style blends...Aromatics are harder to make because the companies have their own secret sauces...mostly artificial aromas...I use light casings but they don't change the flavor much...They do improve the tobacco flavor....I stocked up mostly because I'm cheap and figured the prices would rise...Here in 2020, there are still a million blends available in the US but if nothing else, the cost will continue to rise....I bought my first pouch of Dill's Best in 1961 and told the store owner it was for my dad...Things were easier then.
Great video Muttnchop, as one of those young smokers it's distressing to know that the future of pipe smoking is uncertain. Certainly we will have plenty of European blends but it appears American Virginia's are on the way out. Can you recommend any American Virginia or VA/bur. Thanks again
Yes, this is certainly sad news, and the stockpiling has certainly taken off! I think there is more in play than just the deeming though. Yes, that is a factor, but with McClelland the inability to get the quality of leaf they require drove a big part of the decision. That is partly due to the deeming and also partly just the low level of demand reducing the incentive for the growers to produce pipe tobacco. Also, the fact that they were at the point of retirement probably made them less interested in looking for other, perhaps slightly lower quality leaf. So there’s a lot at play, but, like you said, sad indeed.
Kevin Behringer - Oh yes, you are definitely right, like you said a lot of factors were in play, I hope they sell to another company and that company continues producing at least the Frog Morton series. 👍👍👍
Has anyone decided to pick up the blends since they have gone out of business? I appreciate Scandinavian Tobacco Group picking up Dunhill's legendary blends. I'd love to see GL Pease start blending the Frog Morton blends or maybe even Mac Baren.
M chop you are the man. Love the vids man. Very resourceful for a newbie piper like myself. I have been spending way too much on pipes and tobacco and still loving it. Question thought.....is Frog Morton Cellar worth spending over $100 usd for or is it better to reside to the fact that I missed that era and spend that money on quality tobaccos now and building my own cellar stocks.
Drew Whitelaw - NO!!!! It is not worth $100.00, don’t get me wrong, it’s a good tobacco, but if I had the choice to spend $100.00 dollars on 1 tin, or building my Cellar stock, the Cellar would win out every time. Might I suggest you look at my video, “My Favorite Tobacco Blends” if you need suggestions, some of those tobacco’s you can’t get anymore, but most you can, all those tobacco’s are quality blends in my opinion, and are diverse enough to give you a wide range of taste. 👍👍👍
I'm new to pipe smoking just started last year, I hope this doesn't mean the pipe tobacco industry is heading down hill. Big gov. Big regulations. Just awful. They literally want to control everything we do. Sad days we live in.
Muttnchop Piper Thankfully I was lucky enough to turn up 4 tins in a smaller online shop yesterday night and I hope it‘ll make it through german customs safely. However I am still sad that I will never get to try the rest of the Grand Oriental series now...;o(
Unfortunately nothing lasts forever... especially the things you love. In one way it's a good thing because you learn to appreciate things while you have it.
I have to make a comment about trying to smoke flakes or coins in whole form. I believe the answer is very simple and I'm surprised it hasn't been figured out. It comes down to your mechanics. Let me explain, if you know how to build a fire you will be successful. Your fire will depend on the mositure level, size and type of fuel. Part of the coins and flakes should be broken up like kindling and the large pieces mixed with them. Arrange your light pieces at the bottom of the bowl, large pieces on top and more lighter pieces on top. This is one example. Ive been smoking a pipe for one year and cigars for 8yrs. I may not have been smoking long but I know more than one way to build a fire.
I hate to see such a great company go. The original Frogmorton and Frogmorton’s Cellar were the very first English blends that I ever tried. They are the reason that I love English blends so much! Gosh I’m gonna miss it! I’ve got a couple jars of each and I also have a couple jars of the Anniversary blend. But I’m sure gonna miss it...
I do this everytime i buy some, i buy a few extra cans, im glad i stored up pleanty of the original 3 oaks, i didnt get into their other brands except balkan blue which used to blue mountain. I have smoked enough tobacco to tell you that there are enough Incredible blends out that that even if they stop making your favorite, there is always something else very close or even better. This is one of the reasons i try so many different blends. if i would have stuck with my first real tobaccco which was 3 oaks, i would have missed out on some greats and some that are in my daily rotation. Trust me, explore and and don't be afraid you try some different brands. One of my favorite blends is "blend 5" from Sutliff. It' s fantastic tobacco and is often overlooked becuase it's less expensive than Other brands. It compares to balkan blue and white knight. I don't know about other pipe tobacco smokers but i find myself being selfish when buying tobacco. I will hoard the stuff like crazy, i just can't get enough. I'm sad MCelland is calling it quites but i didn't think they had any ground breaking pipe weed. At least nothing that could easily be replaced with something similar....i do love a couple of their blends and i will miss them.
Iron word - I agree, variety is the key, I think I tried over 100 different blends before I decided on my favorite blends. I have a similar story with Peter Stokkabye luxury twist Flake, it’s often overlooked because of the price, and it only comes in bulk, but it’s one of my favorites. 👍👍👍
FDA ruins people’s fun again. I started smoking pipes a few months after this happened, so I never got to experience any of their blends, so highly recommended by so many. I do see people selling them sealed on ebay, so might have to splurge one day. Would you say it’s worth spending $50 or so on a 100g tin?
Yeah, I’m disappointed as well. I’m new to pipe smoking, frog Morton’s cellar is my favorite blend so far and I’ve tried something from every category of tobacco, I’m not sure I’ll find anything to replace that unique blend 😕 I wish Mary and Mike McNiel the best for their future endeavors
Very sad indeed! Frog Morton's Cellar was the first English blend I tried and now it's gone along with all the rest of the Frog Morton series, Drama Reserve, 5100 red cake, Blackwoods flake etc...all huge losses for me and pipe smokers worldwide. There are still great companies and great blends out there but like you said, which one will be the next to go? I'll continue to cellar whatever favorites that I can get my hands on and feel fortunate to have those blends for as long as they last.
Sure, the news does seem very suddenly..however for all those of us who do not live in USA, the vast majority of pipe smokers in the world, even if we are not as loud on RU-vid, it doesn't matter, we have never had any Mclelland any way, never even seen it outside RU-vid. Dunhill however is a global brand and impacts a lot of us. But RU-vid does have a tendency to make it seem very important to more than a small fraction of pipe smokers. However, for the Americans, it is a loss, ofcourse, no doubt.
Thank you for this informative video, well, perhaps I will continue sticking to basic International OTC blends which have been around a decades-long period of time, to name a few, Mc Baren Golden Extra, Amphoras, Sail Yellow, Mc Baren navy flake,Orlik Golden slice and other in similar genre,these are time-tested popular mass products, survivers in one word, Best Greets,Take Care, Paul
I heard that the bulk is all out. There is still some reserves waiting to be tinned. I hope the tinned tobaccos will be restocked, but I don't know which or how much .
*so much sadness* So many great blends I enjoyed trying and was keen to still try and eventually stack up on, but those chances are gone for good. I hope I can find enough other similar products that will fill the gaps and serve the right purpose. I was so glad I managed to get the 2 tins I did, but so sad couldn't get anything else.. Got on the Town, but couldn't find in the Cellar and no Rum Toddy M40.... Glad you are well stocked... Wish people could see based on that big wake up call that there is a huge market and a call back to the sellers... Worrying with who is next... But at the same time if they stay, there will be MORE MARKET for them with the ones that were there are gone... Keep us posted on great backup options for some of those top blends. Like you did with Maltese Falcon as an alternative for Plum Pudding. Yes different, but similar.
Hurt the small guy.. Always. What a shame. What if they started a store brick mortar stores still have their blends so why can't they do the same?? I love the Frog 🐸
