Having missed the days of Gary Anderson drawing on a notepad way back when F1 was on free-to-air TV in my region, your channel has practically overnight become my fave for aero technical analysis.
Gary Anderson still comentates on The Race channel In fact Gary Anderson really praised the pullrod front suspension and was befuddled by the decision to go back to pushrod at the back. Kyle did the exact opposite lol
Thanks for getting these to us quickly. I always wonder what the thought process behind these cars is and it’s nice to hear it from someone who has actually done it.
The aston looked a lot more developped and advanced. It may be weird but it seemed "cleverer". More subtil, more ingeneous, extracting more from the regulation. The mclaren is more brute force, classical gestion of outwash etc. I guess we ll see at Barcelone
Both philosophies work, it's about who gets the best of it. Giorgio Piola believes that AMR has picked the easiest to construct aero philosophy, however he believes that the development wall on this design is much harder to clear. He believes that McLaren and Haas have picked the design philosophy that's harder to construct but with better development path. However I question this. My limited understanding is that Aston's design adds more downforce but with that, some drag penalty compared to what is, on the face of it, a more slippery design for the more traditional coke bottle shape. The undersection on Aston's elongated sidepod creates a split body approach and some form of pseudo tunnel.. why would you want this however... Aston has opted for a short-medium flatter wheel base this season.. could it be doubling up on the pressure zones is more effective/conducive to creating downforce than running to the extremities of the dimensions.. What does each philosophy want to achieve. Some are theorising that the McLaren and Haas have opted to run some rake, where as Aston appears to be running none. Everything I am seeing is just adding.kpre questions than answers but given that the teams are all still hiding certain elements, it's maybe too soon to evaluate how each team plans to overcome the disadvantages and maximise the advantages of their philosophy. As you say, I guess we'll see at Barcelona. I fear those who get it wrong will feel the weight of it, compared to those who get it right. Just due to the radically different approaches here, there is no immediate path for convergence this season. I am anxious to see how things pan out.
@@hazikaiyan5903 yup, compare it to the FIA car and you will see it too. None of the teams want to show more than they have to. And most of them just bought the FIA chassis and will use it during the reveals.
I feel like they've hidden a lot of the key areas. I feel if it showed up to the grid like this then the Aston would be so much faster. I think the t-tray will change a lot, the front wing and floor as you mentioned, but we also haven't seen the diffuser at all. They must have hidden a lot. With regards to those side pods, I'm not sure I'm a fan. They seem like they're going to be pretty draggy.
They definitely hid some stuff, but james key basically said, that they developed the car to have great upgrade and development potential for the future and cause them to be not that competitive from the get go. But talking about the actual pecking order based on pre testing cars is pretty stupid.
Just discovered this channel and am bloody loving it. I've always been interested in the technical details of f1 cars but have never studied aerodynamics or anything like that. This channel helps to give a deeper understanding and appreciation of the cars
I have a feeling this McLaren is going to have a lot of issues with setup. Pullrod at the front, pushrod at the rear, both multilink. If they can get it to work, it sounds exciting, but setting all of that up for each circuit is going to be horrendous. Edit: Also, the discontinuity on the front wing isn't a rendering mistake. If you look at the built model from the MTC, you can see the same drop down. It looks like a slightly smoother transition, but this might also be due to lighting etc.
Based on the 3 cars we have seen, who in your professional opinion has the best designed car at this point? Not being an aerodynamic expert I'm inclined to say Aston Martin is the current leader with its double tea tray and aggressive undercut side pods. Not knowing much about how venturi tunnels work and the overall impact on downforce that the new floors can have. It looks to me like the Aston have a lower drag profile than Mclaren or Haas. Although I'm a fan and have little to no engineering experience so could be entirely wrong.
James key said that there are many crucial parts on the mclaren that they are hiding. If this was the actual car then they would have done the cars shakedown today. That car is the real one but its the bare minimum of what we will see in Bahrain. Also Piers Thyne confirmed a huge upgrade package for bahrain so that should also give it away.
@@timyo6288 thats a joke isn't it? The Red Bull was the most boring car of 2022 up to date. It was basically the same car than the FIA modell. Not aerodynamically advanced at all....
Just signed up, this channel is a godsend for me as an engineering student. From what I have seen it seems that Aston Martin is ahead in the development of the car.
I think we can now safely say, that the cars definitely look very different and distinctive. Many people feared, that the 2022 would look all the same, but that is not case at all. the aston and the mclaren are very different and they have the same engine in the back.
Hey man, I just discovered this channel last week and I have thoroughly enjoyed your aerodynamics analysis videos of the 2022 cars. I for one would very much welcome a video with an in-depth explanation of the workings, advantages and disadvantages of push- and pullrod suspension, seeing as how it seems to be one of the points in which the new cars might substantially differ from both last year's cars and from eachother. Keep up the good work!
I am now into my master thesis of mechanical engineering and I follow formula 1 since the late 90s. And only now discovered your channel. Great work ! Keep on !
A bigger question I’ve had with the new regs is how does an aerodynamicist look for loopholes in a rule set? For instance if you were to look for advantages in the 22 rule set, where would you look for areas to exploit?
See his video on the aston martin video for example when a piece of the car is discribed the words can be distorted to fit another form that was not initially intended, so they run at a risk of being rejected or if lucky aproved and have significant gains, its all about risk reward, but for example if the description of the front wing was a wing with maximum of 4 parts, they could change those 4 parts to whatever because theres no more expesification, in aston marting case they changed a piece so that it have one more flat place where it was not intended.
@@KevinJDildonik Not so fun fact: What actually happened was Ferrari was proven to be legal but Mercedes wouldn't stop whining so Ferrari were punished anyway and so Ferrari had to get creative to make up what they shouldn't have lost to begin with and then might have bent the rules a little to do it. On the other side Mercedes was proven to have illegalities many times but nothing was ever done about it. Finding loopholes may have been the game before but this last era especially shows that it has devolved into who is the best at "convincing" the officials.
wouldn’t be upset with a more in detailed video by you covering the pull/push rod comparison. I know there’s loads of other vids for it but you’re so thorough and give full coverage
I love these videos, keep it up! I used to be an aero member of an FSAE team, but without any mentors I was overwhelmed and stepped down from the team, but your videos are so helpful with learning aero design and techniques!
@@user-cg7tj7cu4m No I am just interested of the aerodynamics because it super aerodynamic car and cuts through the air far more efficiently then other hypercars
the speculation about the Fwing looking different on the renders and IRL car is correct - there are better images out there from the live event now, and the nose, Fwing, end plates and floor are massively different. Maybe other stuff too
I do like the comparison between last years car. On face value, you might think there's nothing much of note there, given the totally different design legalities this year, but it's fascinating to hear you say that this car (for all it's new styling) isn't *too* dissimilar from previous philosophies. Would like to see that overlay on all the car recaps!
I'm glad the front diffusers of the cars premiered so far, don't really look like the FIA prototype front diffuser. The wheel covers here look like steelies with no holes cut in them....barf. if they're trying to appeal to the younger crowd with the lo-pro wheels, they negated the whole thing with the fugly covers.
Your videos are so good man. Your brilliant understanding of all the aerodynamic tricks make it seem like you’re one of the guys who actually worked on the car. Keep up the great videos and I can’t wait to see what you say come testing.
These are fantastic Kyle. Been enjoying watching analysis's with my feet up and a cup of coffee. Cheers mate. Ps. Would love to see further in-depth analysis once the cars are out on track for testing.
It'll be interesting, for me at least, for a video on surface temperature (bodywork etc) on areodynamics. How does it effect boundary layers and their properties? Would trying to heat or cool certain areas like the tunnel be worth doing? Thanks.
Great question, and yes temperature would have some effects I’m sure. I was interested in how the tires are affected (in terms of surface temperature and longevity/tire wear) Does one team cool the tires more in slow turns/high speed turns? It would vastly improve the durability of the tire if you could cool them while under highest loads??? I love going down the rabbit hole
I've been watching your channel since shortly before you took the hiatus to work on some German race car, and it's nice to see you're finally getting the algorithm love you deserve.
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD that's why I said a fast sketch OR a model he could explain reasoning behind his ideas on a fast sketch It doesn't need to be something that would be legal, just something so that he can explain ideas behind his design
I really appreciate you doing these launch car analysis videos. I really wasn't expecting anything like this from you, but it's truly awesome and has me quite happily surprised. Would love another suspension video that would give a good summary of your last one, plus how the new wheel sizes and regulations may affect design and decisions, especially with regards to to the pullrod vs. pushrod. Thanks.
Found ur channel a few days ago, havent been able to find quality analysis of aerodynamics on these 2022 F1 cars like yours which I find especially interesting as I am studying aviation. Cheers for the great content, looking forward to more as the other cars launch! Also great to watch a fellow Aussie ;D
Could you do a video with your take on how you rate the concepts we have seen so far (Aston Martin, McLaren, Haas) in terms of downforce to drag ratio etc.?
Last time I viewed your channel was years ago and now I am really happy you had a brilliant career working in f1 unfortunately for them you left and they lost the drivers championship sad for them
Hey Kyle, great work, as you alluded to in the video, could you make a video explaining why the front and rear suspensions are so risky on this McLaren? Thanks,
Big F1 fan for years now. Have always been interested in the aero in intricacies and it was a instant sub when I came across this channel. Keep up the good work! If it's not too much work (I presume it may be) I'd love to see your take on what you would do if you were to design a car. A mix of the cars or maybe some unthought of designs that maybe the teams haven't released in their pre-testing designs 🤔
I damn myself for knowing about the Dunning-Kruger effect. After watching a few of these episodes, I would have been so proud of being an F1 aero expert...
new viewer watching your analysis of the new f1 cars. I love it bro. you make it easy to understand for a newbie to aero. and i get what the teams are trying to do! thanks! i look forward to more content!
I’m excited to see how these cars evolve through the year, given the increase of grip. I reckon the cars will be “slower” than last year at the start of the season, but faster by the end. But hey, speculation
That really was a good explanation about the aerodynamics of the car. Loved it. But I don’t quite understand the difference between a pullrod and a pushrod and their respective advantages.
Thanks for the video!! Amazing teaching from someone who knows a lo about this field. I would like to see more mechanical technique about pull rod suspension pleaseee
Very good technical F1 channel. Kindly do more technical videos of upgrades that the f1 teams do during the race weekends. That is what i am waiting for :-)
im loving this series so far, its so informative and educational, and i love seeing the differences between the teams in terms of interpritation. Will you be doing a video for each car on their final from in testing/race 1? I feel thats where all the tiny clever tricks will truely show. Cant wait for more vids! (hopefully less red bull launches where they show nothing)
This seems to be a pretty unpopular opinion, but I think this McLaren is the most beautiful of the cars revealed so far. Both in terms of livery, and body shape
Love your videos but I do have one suggestion. Can you please use larger thicker brighter markers on the images when you are describing something? Sometimes it’s easy to get lost and by the time I figure out what area you’re talking about you’ve moved onto the next thing.
Yeah, that'd be helpful. On this video in particular, though, there was a delay between when he said he was drawing something and when the marker appeared, which exacerbated the problem. He'd say something like "and right around here...", then nothing would be showing up and then a bit later the full marker would pop up already drawn and he'd have moved on already. Didn't see the same level of delay on the other two car vids.
@@GridZilla yeah, i was watching directly on a phone with no bluetooth, and i checked it in my laptop as well. Definitely a delay in the video, not on your end. :)
Hi Kyle! A fan from NL here. I was wondering if you could share your opinion on which car looks aerodynamically the most interesting and in your opinion looks like to have the edge (again, aerodynamically). I dont expect you to predict the championship but am really curious what your considerations would be. Many thanks!
Agreed, though I'd be shocked if Aston wasn't also quite different by first race too. I get the feeling they wanted some positive news to help distract from some of the behind the scenes turmoil from their staffing changes, so they showed a few more cards up their sleeves with a more recent version of their car, knowing most others would be hiding as much as possible. But I doubt they've shown the entirety of their hand, lol.
The red bull would be the slowest, because its not their real car. You can already see this at their nose, it only has 3 wings, even though you are allowed 4 elements
No rearward analysis :( but super cool videos you've been doing! McLaren seems much more streamlined, may be the same philosophy of good straight line speed as we saw in Monza
Looks like McLaren are trying to have lower drag and a more streamlined car. Also they are trying to use the front and rear wing for downforce compared to Aston that is trying to get the downforce from ground effect
I think it is because of these new regulations, using the ground effect to generate more downforcenis better than using the front and rear wing like in 1980 where the ground effect is introduced. Those cars created ridiculous amounts of downforce and some of the teams ran without the front wing
I was wondering if you could explain the terminology more like what out wash is and what the high pressure zones do to benefit the cars aero! I’m aware we could be here for a 3 hour video if you did but for the non engineers watching it’d help for more accessible content
